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Revisited the abandoned Carolin Gold Mine in southern British Columbia last weekend and completed exploring all 10 kilometers of tunnels and caverns within the mountain, took about 7 hours total (on foot). Dumping photos, most of them taken by me over the last year of visits, some historical photos I've found online, and some good photos taken by others who have explored the site.
This is a general abandoned mines thread, feel free to post about mines near you.
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me likey
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>>767777
Arriving at the mill Saturday afternoon.
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>>767785
The mine was only fully operational between 1982 and 1984, eventually closing down due to a variety of factors, mostly market related. The property was eventually purchased by New Carolin Gold Corp but has never re-entered operation, although the organisation does survey the site on an annual basis and is actively involved in researching the land. The mine is about ~8 kilometers up a logging road that wraps around the mountain only secured by a single gate that is open year round except for the days that New Carolin Gold Corp is surveying the property.
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>>767797
This is an aerial photo of the mill site from the early 80's.
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>>767801
And an aerial photo of the mill site as of 2016, only two buildings and the conveyor leading into the mountain remain.
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>>767777
>check'd
Mine exploration is something I need to do more of this year.
>Kind of surprised I didn't pick up a nail in a tire in here
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>>767806
Much of the original processing equipment remains in the building, long rusted and seized, all wiring throughout the building has been chewed away by rodents and the entire building is riddled with vandalism, graffiti, shotgun shells, and bullet holes.
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>>767808
Far side of the bldg's collapsing in on itself. Couple holes in the ground, go down 6-8 feet. Lots of creaky/unstable boards.
No graffiti, which is cool.
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>>767812
I don't know what any of these machines are for, but I know that they all serve as homes for animals today.
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>>767820
The entire mill is constructed of steel so most of it is still very sturdy and navigable.
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>>767817
More photos from the area.
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>>767777
Go on.... Find any big nuggets?
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>>767823
The mill site is high enough in the mountains that there is still a bit of snow on the ground in some spots as of Saturday.
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>>767824
Bullwheel's obviously been there for a while, and it's not going anywhere anytime soon.
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>>767828
At the base of these giant rock tumblers are hundreds of heavy spherical metal balls, each about the size of your palm. During operation these tumblers were full of these metal balls, rock samples would be fed into the tumblers on conveyors and the metal balls would crush them into a fine mixture allowing the gold to be filtered out.
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Another from inside >>767817 , from a different day
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Should I go?
It's in the middle of nowhere, it's abandoned, it's pretty cool looking.
Oh, it's also full of thirty or so million tons of asbestos.
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>>767834
The largest conveyor feeds from the top of the silo into the base of the mountain to a level marked as the Conveyor Decline on cross sectional maps.
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>>767841
This is a cross sectional map of Carolin Gold Mine. After spending a lot of time inside of the mine I've found that it's actually very accurate, at least in terms of distance to each cavern and how they bridge each level. It's hard to express the scale of this place, these lines make up a total of 10.5 kilometers, the caverns joining each level (marked in grey) are absolutely massive, the largest could easily fit a couple dozen city buses.
The Conveyor Decline and "crushers" are inaccessible, long flooded. 800 and 850 level were easily accessible and dry last year.
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>>767847
This is the flooded entrance to the Conveyor Decline. The portal was mostly collapsed last year, open just enough to crawl into to the entrance. The first time I visited last year I was greeted here by a dead bird floating by in the unusually clean and clear water.
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>>767850
This is the entrance to the 800 Level as of Saturday. Last year it was on the verge of collapsing (OP photo). New Carolin Gold Corp has since installed and buried this tunnel to prevent the inevitable collapse of the old portal.
On Saturday the entrance to 800 Level was flooded with knee high water, extremely cold. Inside of the mine it is cold enough to see your breath all year round. Outside of the summer months the entire mine is filled with long stalactites, sometimes stretching from the ceiling all of the way to the ground, barricading sections of the mine with ice.
There is a video on YouTube of some guys exploring the 800 Level on dirtbikes in November 2014 while the mine is filled with ice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXtsCGNn034
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OP you need to be careful.
Some chemicals used to process ore for gold are quite poisonous, so I personally wouldn't go fucking around in old mines / refinery buildings.
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>>767856
This photo was taken by a friend during my second visit to the mine, August of last year, shortly after entering the 800 Level. This level is the largest and most interesting, there is a lot of old equipment down here and the mine tracks are still in tact, stretching all of the way into the heart of the mountain.
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>>767861
Half way into the 800 Level you come across the first section of riser tunnels. Each of these tunnels connects each layer of the mine with long wooden ladders, long rotten and impossible to climb today.
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>>767868
It is pitch black and many of these riser tunnels are completely open and unguarded, without a strong headlamp it would be quite easy to miss your step and tumble 50 ft down, likely crippling you on your way down to the flooded levels below, it wouldn't be a fun way to go out.
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>>767872
I don't know what these yellow veins in the walls are made of, but I can assure you it's not gold.
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Very cool anon, good way to die though.
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OP I'm enjoying your thread but your camera sucks a big bag of donkey dicks.
This would be much better if you had a camera made in the past 100 years AND A TRIPOD.
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>>767877
This is the entrance to the 900 Level as of last year, about a 10 minute hike up the mountain from the mill site. NCGC have since moved the concrete blocks back into the entrance to prevent 4x4 vehicles from entering.
There are videos on YouTube of people driving jeeps inside of the 900 Level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TZvNirvIXw
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>>767883
Most of the photos I have of the inside of the mine were taken with my Nexus 5 last year. I shattered the camera lens on the phone the week before visiting the mine while spelunking in some limestone caves along Chilliwack River, BC. I wasn't going to not take pictures while at the mine, so all I have is these shattered lens photos.
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>>767777
Dank and checked
Are these mines fairly widely explored? As in people go there often and you were assured it is mostly safe? Aside from the rotted stairs and flooded tunnels of course.
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>>767884
900 Level is much more dangerous than the 800 Level, generally each level of the mine is in worse condition than the layer below. The first half of 900 Level is a series of equipment rooms branching off the left and right, many of them gated but unlocked. Inside the equipment rooms the walls are lined with rusted shelving units littered with pipe fittings, bolts, and electrical boxes. Large steel barrels are filled with scrap metal, plastic buckets with 30 year old yellow paste, there are rotted outhouses labelled "SHITTER" with spraypaint, kilometer long pipes lining the walls of every tunnel, and water valves sticking out of the walls that still work and blast high pressured water across the caves when pulled.
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>>767895
How far in is all this stuff? I'm amazed junkies haven't raided it for scrap metal over the years.
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>>767890
Carolin Gold Mine is widely known by southern BC locals, very popular in 4x4 circles. I've been to the mine 4 times in the last 12 months and have run into 4x4 clubs every single time, but only at the mill site and on the service roads, not once inside the actual mine. It's typically older families that I see up there, men in their 40s that bring their wives along, so they're rarely adventurous (or reckless) enough to go exploring inside. Very few people go beyond the 900 Level, I've never seen videos or photos of the 1000 and 1015 Levels online besides mine. There is tons of footage and photos of the 800 and 900 Levels.
As far as I know there have been no reported deaths or serious injuries at Carolin Mine in the 30 years that it has been abandoned and open to the curious public.
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>>767904
Is there signage posted or anything that would obviously say "Stay The Fuck Out!"?
From what you said, the company still owns it but if it is illegal to be there, doesn't seem like it is enforced with all the 4x4 clubs and families. I'm suprised the company hasn't tried to close it up for good.
Looks awesome though, I would love to run around something like that.
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>>767899
I've only posted photos of the 800 Level and 900 Level so far, I'm working my way up to the top levels. Take a look at the cross sectional map above for an idea of where the levels are relative to the Conveyor Decline, which is the base of the mill site.
I don't think junkies would go through the effort to raid this place, it's way out in the mountains along the Coquihalla. A 6 kilometer service road from the highway may not sound like much but it's a nasty road only navigable by trucks and 4x4s, and once you get to the mill site most of the machinery is likely bolted into the concrete. All of the copper is definitely gone, people have harvested that over the years, but most of the steel remains. I couldn't imagine how people would haul the machinery out of the actual mine with the concrete blocks blocking each entrance. We're talking massive boilers, mine carts, and solid steel tracks, shelves, and machines that could only be winched out of place.
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>>767777
This is awesome. I've been trying to find some near me. I know they are hear, finding them is just an issue.
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>>767911
I haven't noticed any No Trespassing signage and the gate to the mill site is almost always wide open, I've only heard rumors of it being closed for short shifts while surveyors are on site doing research once or twice a year, I've never run into them myself and I've read online that they just politely ask you to stay out of the mine while they're inside.
(pic related is from the early 80s)
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>>767920
Continuing on inside the 900 Level:
In the last third of the 900 Level you encounter the massive caverns and pits for the first time. To me this is the most amazing part of the experience, seeing these caverns for the first time, so deep into the mountain, and having no prior knowledge of their existence, was absolutely mind boggling to me.
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>>767924
All throughout the mine there are white signs with fluorescent paint indicating "Safety Bays" (alcoves in the tunnel walls meant for huddling in during the event of a collapse) and "Open Stopes" or hills, massive pits in the ground with no guardrails.
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>>767926
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>>767929
(deep tunnel connecting the 900 Level and the 850 Level)
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How unlikely is it that you'll actually find gold in an abandoned gold mine? Couldn't you easily make a few thousand from a few fist-sized chunks of gold? Not sure how it works but I'm really curious
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>>767931
Another historical photo from the 80s, likely 900 Level.
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>>767932
I have no idea really, Carolin shut down in '84 in part due to poor gold returns, if they were getting poor returns with their bulldozers and drills and machinery I doubt we'll have any luck with our bare hands or even a decent tool belt. NCGC has posted pictures of small gold nuggets in the tailings pond slightly further up the mountain from the mill (only accessible with a great 4x4 and some offroading skill, watched a modern Toyota Tundra get stuck trying on Saturday).
That's one of the more peculiar things about all of this, I don't know how the mining world operates, or what New Carolin Gold Corps plans are for this land, but it does seem odd that a massive tailings pond with evidence of recent gold findings is completely unguarded 363 days out of the year.
I'm just in it for the thrill and adrenaline rush of being alone kilometers inside of a pitch black mountain.
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>>767857
>insert image of Animas River after it was turned bright yellow from all the waste
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>>767941
Concluding the 900 Level:
So upon my first visit to the mine last year I knew very little about the place. I hadn't seen the cross sectional map or read anything about it other than how to get to the mill site. It took us about 2 hours to work our way through the 800 Level and out, up the mountain to the next portal, and through towards the end of the 900 Level. We were exhausted, very cold, thirsty, and quite frankly shaking like little girls at this point because this place really is absolutely terrifying the first time you visit. You don't know if there are bears inside, if a rat is going to suddenly shoot down a riser tunnel and into your mouth, or if you're going to cut your leg on a length of sheet metal covered in 30 years of rust. So in this mental state we eventually find ourselves at a partly collapsed section of tunnel, about 30 feet of giant boulders lay in front of us.
We decide to keep pressing on and begin scaling the damp boulders forward, eventually revealing a small wooden passageway along the right side of the tunnel that wasn't buried in the collapse.
Pic related is the last photo I have from the 900 Level, taken by my friend as I made my way through this passageway.
On the other side was a room with a large wooden wall at one end, at the top of the wall just before the ceiling was a small opening, a wood ladder leaned up against the wall towards this opening. I climbed up and over the wall, there wasn't a drop on the other side like we expected, instead the ground was level with the top of the wall, leaving only a tight passage between the ground and ceiling. With my head down I crawled through this passage until the ceiling began rising, I stand up and look forward, pure darkness as far as I can see up, down, and around me.
This is the largest cavern on the cross sectional map above. You enter the cavern halfway up the wall, so it's like you're looking off of a 75 ft cliff into endless darkness. We were speechless.
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>>767949
The 1000 Level:
After our experience in the 900 Level we called it a day and agreed to hit the road. My friend isn't much of a hiker and smokes a pack a day, he wasn't interested in joining me for the the 1000 Level, which is about a 40 minute hike up the mountain. So I went back alone a couple of weeks later, just after sunrise (a reckless decision, but I was very eager to finish exploring the mine).
Again, apologies for the poor image quality, my camera lens was shattered that year. This is the entrance to the 1000 Level, much smaller than the portals further down the mountain.
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>>767952
I don't actually remember much about this level, only that it was slightly less well maintained than the levels below, this is a pattern that would repeat again in the 1015 level.
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>>767954
I do remember coming across several of these steel walls that look like they used to have large fans mounted in them. Beyond the walls this level was a lot more windy than the ones below, tunnels would meander up and down, leading to steep drop offs into the caverns of the 900 Level, again, certain death if one were to slip and fall.
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>>767956
The upper levels are much smaller and take only a fraction of the time to explore so it wasn't long before I headed up to the final level.
The 1015 Level:
I was surprised to find the portal to this level was more like a cave than a door.
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>>767958
Very high up the mountain at this point, the view out of the portal was thrilling, almost level with the peaks of the neighboring mountains.
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>>767960
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>>767961
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>>767962
This level was in the worst condition by far and resembled a cave full of industrial trash more than anything that was once operational.
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>>767964
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>>767964
It was also the most infested by rodents. Right before I took this picture a rat bolted out from behind one of the blades towards me, tumbling down the side of the structure and running off between my feet into the tunnels.
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>>767971
Anyway, that's the last of my photos, I'm heading off for the night. I'll leave you with a historical photo of this sly motherfucker making a fucking mess and not giving a shit.
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>>767941
NCGC is trying to set up the Ladner Gold Project (Caroline mines, and a couple other much older mines in the immediate area) as a future Gold producer. They're acquiring more and more claims (basically land-rights to mining minerals) over that entire area and performing exploratory drilling. Theyre building a map of the gold reserves in the whole area and keeping the existing underground infrastructure intact (hence repairing the 800 level portal)
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great post anon...makes me miss BC
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Curious to the safety equipment you use/carry, if any.
O2/atmospheric monitoring? Gloves, boots, helmet?
Are you mapping out the mine, or is it simple enough you can find your way back?
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>>767828
>that graffiti
I keep wondering why these kids insist on fucking every abandoned structure up. Is it like carving names in trees, that they just desperately want to leave their mark and shit? I genuinely don't know.
Really cool photos either way, OP.
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>>767993
Not as much as most would recommend.
With me:
- Headlamp w/ two sets of spare batteries
- Bear spray
- Buck 110 and Leatherman Wingman
- Work boots (non-steel toed)
- Basic first aid kit
- 1L of water
In my truck:
- 20L of fuel
- 2L of water
- All tools for general repairs
- Spare tire
- Tire jack / tire iron
- Spare ignition parts
- Enough firewood for 2 nights
- Axe and machete
- Fire starter aids
- Misc handy shit (tie wraps, tape, wire, maps etc)
I understand the caution around air quality but Carolin Mine has been a hot spot for 30 years, it's widely known in the area that a lot of people explore it casually without issue, so I wasn't too concerned going in.
>>768006
I hear ya and I've seen much worse examples. Another one of my favorite spots in southern BC is this abandoned tree house out in the mountains of Chilliwack River Valley. This photo was taken last year the day I found it, I went back Sunday morning for the first time this year and it's now covered in fluorescent graffiti inside and out, the idiots even signed it with first names, last initials, and "March 2016".
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>>767949
I found a guy who managed to get enough light into the mine to take a good picture of the largest cavern on the 900 Level. Amazing.
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>>768548
More of his photos.
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>>768550
You can see more in this guy's photos than you can inside the actual mine without a high powered light.
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>>768548
Have a link to an album?
Also holy shit that's a massive cavern. How big is that drop off?
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>>768273
>no snatch block
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Amazing thread OP, read everything and enjoyed it. Thanks!
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>>769000
You can find the full album of his photos on his Facebook page British Columbia Ghost Mines.
I'm only guessing because I've only seen the limits of what my flashlight could reveal and this guy's photo but the drop off seemed to be around 100 ft. The ceiling is also about 100 ft up from where the guy is standing in the photo, you enter the cavern halfway up the wall.
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I'm also planning on heading back to the area this weekend to attempt locating the Emancipation Mine on the other side of the mountain, it's 100 years old as of 2016. Word on the street is that the road to this mine is very overgrown and not reachable by vehicle, so I may be unsuccessful, I'll report back to this thread in a few days if it's still here (and if I'm still alive).
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>>767839
Just bring a gas mask and keep your tongue off of shit and you'll be fine.
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>>769338
I don't know if you understand that when I said thirty million tons, I was being serious. Those hills there are made of asbestos.
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Bumpin' for survival. Don't want to lose this thread before the weekend. I've confirmed my estimated route to this mine with the owner of the British Columbia Ghost Mines YouTube channel. Heading out there Friday morning.
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Entering abandoned mines is dumb as fuck, after the finish mining they nock out all the supports and take the wood with them to the next mine, meaning it could collapse at any moment. Not to mention all the dust and weird shit you are inhaling.
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>>770296
Apparently this particular on the OP went in is being maintained because the company that own it expects to use it again at some point in the future.
I agree with you that this is 99% the case, and worse the older the mine.
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>>768548
>>768550
Some LotR level shit.
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Remember out, If you wanna kill yourself, do it in an abandoned mine so nobody finds the body
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>>767777
>3 abandoned mines in the area
>all boarded up
>all with warning signs
>36 people have gone in to date
>all 36 have died in those mines
>all 36 bodies are still in the mines
They even have the death count listed on one of the signs.
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>>770719
No amount of signage will stop these maniacs
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OP here. Successfully found the Emancipation Mine this morning on the other side of the mountain from Carolin. This one is much older, 100 years as of 2016.
Was only able to drive halfway up to this one before the stability of the road became too uncertain, a shale landslide has taken out a large portion and while most 4x4s could still make it I wouldn't trust the slope, seemed very weak.
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>>771525
The remaining hike to the mine is actually very nice, not too steep, lots of great views of the Coquihalla Highway. Felt like less than 1 km from where I parked.
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>>771043
I have both but cave diving still scares the ever loving shit out me
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>>770719
how would they know if people had gone-in and not died tho? 1,047 people could have gone in and out while there were 36 deaths and it wouldn't documented
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>>771526
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>>771529
These are the two portals leading into the Emancipation Mine. The right portal is a very short and incomplete tunnel.
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>>771532
The left entrance is flooded with water about a foot deep for ~30 or ~40 ft into the mine.
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>>771535
I had planned on picking up a pair of second hand gum boots on the way to the mine this morning but I left too early and none of the stores were open. I ended up hauling a long 2x6 into the mine, floating it down the tunnel, propping it up on rocks, walking the length of the plank, balancing on any large rocks nearby, floating the 2x6 further down the tunnel, and so on until the tunnel banked upward out of the water.
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>>771537
About 40 ft into the mine, just past the flooded section, the tunnel forks. I went left first, this tunnel had long cart tracks going uphill, at the top of the hill the tunnel appeared to be in much worse shape. Riser tunnels leading up the second level are long decayed with large piles of rotten support beams strewn across the ground below. I never went up to the second level, it would require climbing what's left of the hundred year old riser tunnels, and I wasn't about to take that chance.
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>>771539
This tunnel didn't go on very far before coming to a dead end where a section of the mine has clearly collapsed in on itself.
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>>771541
Curious about this collapsed section I've gone back to re-watch British Columbia Ghost Mine's video of Emancipation Mine.
Pic related is the same tunnel 9 months ago in August.
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>>771541
So I turned around and began heading back down the narrow tunnel to the fork.
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>>771546
Turning right at the fork. The many piles of hundred year old rotting support beams throughout this mine are not very comforting.
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>>771548
The riser tunnels are old enough that any ladders that may have led up them have long since given way.
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>>771550
This mine is clearly much more primitive than Carolin Mine on the other side of the mountain, although it operated for a much longer period of time. It initially shut down in the 40s but ownership continued to pass hands until the 90s when a new company conducted some level of restoration and further drilling. There is no machinery left over in this mine like there is in Carolin, the most metal I saw in one place at one time was this single pipe in the wall.
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>>771561
Looks very sturdy...
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>>771565
The slope along the left side of this tunnel goes down about 60 ft to the lower level. After seeing the collapsed tunnel earlier I wasn't eager to attempt climbing any of these risers up or down a level.
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>>771577
This tunnel eventually came to a dead end as well, the only way to continue exploring Emancipation Mine is to risk it in the riser tunnels, a challenge for somebody with larger balls than I.
This is my last photo. It'll be a while before I find another mine out here, I have a lead on one near Jones Lake but it's a haul that I won't be taking on this weekend. Been a fun thread, 'till next time /out/.
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Obviously you are not dead but I couldn't prevent a feeling of rising dread as suspense going through your photos. Super creepy man. Thanks for photojournalling the experience for us.
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Whenever I see mines and caves, all I can think about is that guy who died upside down with his arms pinned behind his back in a cave.
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>>771527
Regular caving scares me more than cave diving
I don't know why these people do it, it's not for the rush cause I was in the infantry in Iraq and Afghanistan, and race motorcycles now and I still wouldn't do that shit
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>>771963
I'm never a fan of squeezes but I really enjoy most aspects of caving.
I can't put my finger on why I do it exactly but it comes down to mostly adventure.
There is some seriously cool rock formations in some caves.
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>>771963
One down from top left is actually a guy's head shopped onto a pillow.
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>>771581
I'll post a couple of sites that seem like they would be neat to explore, this one has a 300m adit according to the book
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Know of any neat mines on Vancouver Island?
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>>772999
Not personally no, check the British Columbia Ghost Mines YouTube channel, it seems to have the most information on mines in BC.
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>>767899
steel is worthless
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>>767960
>mfw op is a hobbit
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>>773333
>posts mfw
>no reaction photo
*facepalm*
>gets quads
checked
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>>767189
>>767189
Whaaaaaaa that sounds insane
OP just get your prospecting licence and they'll give you a USB with the coordinates of every historical mine in the province.
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>>767856
That looks so awesome to do.
Great thread btw.
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>>767895
>water valves sticking out of the walls that still work and blast high pressured water across the caves when pulled.
Wow. What were they used for?
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>>767932
If the mine is shut down that tells you a lot. Most gold isn't in nugget form. Rock has to be pulverized and then treated to extract the gold. And it takes a LOT of rock to produce even an ounce of gold. I think the yield is expressed as a ratio and if the gold prices don't make the yield practical they don't mind.
tl;dr
No
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>>768273
>Leatherman Wingman
I have the sidekick (same thing but has a saw instead of scissors) and I've been looking for owners' opinions on them. And yes, I'm in the multi tool thread.
My tool action feels like shit compared to my squirt ps4. The tools all stick together and doesn't have that smooth sexy action like my ps4. The whole reason I got the sidekick was because I loved the feel of my squirt.
What does yours feel like and have you done anything to improve it?
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>>768273
Meant to add: you should have another light source. Either a flashlight or even another headlamp.
And if you have a truck I'd carry more water.
>>768548
>>768550
Holy shit that's cavernous af.
>>768553
That looks cool but dangerous.
>>770186
Flooded mines are neat. I know there are some where you have to scuba dive to get down to see all the abandoned equipment.
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>>771963
Not this pic again. I saw it in that thread where the op dug out a little shelter. Then the thread turned into one big anxiety lol.
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>>771581
Out-fucking-standing thread OP.
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>>767777
>>770719
Seriously. This seems like a really great way to die cold and alone in the dark, of starvation after you fell down a whole and broke your leg and self-amputation kept you alive after the infection set so you just got to spend the next month licking moisture of the walls while your body ate itself.
I may or may not have had this dream while on melatonin.
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>>771581
What exactly is a riser tunnel?
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>>775816
I had the Wingman for almost 2 years, I actually just lost it on a camping trip in the woods last weekend. It's far from perfect in terms of design but still very usable and handy. It felt very robust and durable, no part of it ever broke on me, but there were a few things about it that irritated me. My biggest complaint was how difficult the scissors were to get out, the thumb pad is very small and your only leverage for prying the scissors out is a skinny and uncomfortable metal leg that digs under your thumb nail when you push on it. Without frequent cleaning / adjusting the tightness of the rivets the scissors would often get so stuck in their slot that I'd have to pry the scissors out with the edge of a car key. However the scissors and knife locking into place when pulled out was nice, even if the lock on the scissors did disengage every once in a while during use. I was never able to get smaller tools in each handle to come out on their own, it was always all two or three come out at once and then you've got to push the ones you don't want back in. None of the small internal tools lock into place, so when using the screwdrivers they would often fold in and I'd jam my hand into whatever I'm working on. The can opener / bottle opener was great, sharp and worked very well, I've probably opened close to 50 cans of soup when camping without issue. There was also a small curved blade tool in the handle, not sure what it was specifically for but I used it for stripping coaxial cable a lot (I'm a telecom technologist by trade), it worked very well for that with some practise. The pliers were the best part because they're spring loaded, I believe that's essential for any multi-tool, non-spring loaded pliers are a fucking pain to use.
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>>775852
Seems like a quick and horrible way to die but time has suggested otherwise. People have been messing around recklessly in Carolin Mine every sunny weekend for decades and I haven't been able to find a single recorded death or serious injury. I'm not denying that it's extremely dangerous and that there are countless hazards around every single corner but that danger is part of the thrill, some of us get off on that shit. Yes I'm reckless, yes I'm tempting fate, yes I'm not as prepared as I could be, yes I'd be safer staying at home exploring mines in Oblivion or Skyrim, but it wouldn't be as fun or as interesting, and I'm still alive, so it was worth it.
Carolin Mine is a special opportunity for us southern BC folk. It's absolutely massive, it's relatively young so a lot of the original equipment/buildings are still there, it's unguarded and fairly easy to get to, it's not full of toxic gas, and it has been remarkably stable with no reported deaths in 30 years.
Emancipation Mine however, being 100 years old and seeing that a huge portion has collapsed within the last 9 months, I can't defend the choice to explore that one. That was a very reckless move on my part, I'm glad I did it because it was a visceral experience and a memory I'll have forever, but I would never push somebody else to do it.
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>>776257
Pic related.
Riser tunnels are vertical tunnels connecting levels of a mine together and were used to traverse the mine from inside. Not once have I tried to use them, the riser tunnels in the two mines I've explored are 30 - 100 years old, the ladders are soaked and rotten.
"Stopes" can also be used to travel from level to level inside of a mine but could be even more dangerous. These are much wider tunnels and are slanted, no ladders, just loose rocks. It would be very easy to accidentally caused a small rock slide inside of a stope by attempting to climb or descend one. No fucking bueno, I would spend an hour walking back out the front entrance and hiking up the mountain to the next portal before I'd try climbing or descending any risers or stopes.
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>>769234
>>768553
>>768550
>>768548
You take pictures like that with a long exposure. You need a reasonable light, a tripod, and a good camera you can do a like 6-10 second exposure. You basically 'paint' the surfaces with light while the film/sensor is exposing. Can take really nice pictures of large dark spaces without having to carry a huge ass light. That's basically the trick to taking not shit pictures in caves/mines.
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>>767777
Bumping. Can't let this die over the weekend.
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hey op I've been there! this is in hope, right?
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>>776748
Thank you, I just wanted to make sure I didn't get a shit pair.
A trick I learned with non spring pliers is to hold them sort of like chop sticks. Works well in a pinch
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Some underground mine Jargon
portal:
>pretty much the entrance to a mine or tunnel
adit:
>horizontal mine tunnel
shaft:
>vertical mine tunnel with winching gear, can begin above or below ground
winze:
underground vertical tunnel in a mine without winching gear, depending on the direction it was dug, it can be referred to as a "raiser"(dug upwards) or "sump"(dug downwards)
stope:
>any area in a mine where ore specifically was extracted, can take many shapes depending on where the ore was. for example in the Carolin and Emancipation mines, here ore was extracted from mineral veins running diagonally to the adits, hence the diagonal stopes.
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>>771043
That skeleton is obviously protecting something valuable
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>>767777
I presume you've been to Monarch, Kicking Horse, and Mineral King? The first two are the only mines I've visited so far (with an incomplete exploration of Kicking Horse, due to being with slow friends and running out of daylight). Mine exploring is the shit.
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>>777153
Kek
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>>767777
Neat hobby indeed walked about a mile worth of tunnels in the southern Californian hills in a mine for tourmaline.
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Mining engineer here. I have visited quite a few operating underground mines and some older (museum) mines as well. I would never go to an abandoned underground mine for several reasons:
-No quarantee for air quality. If you go, carry a meter for monitoring gases and oxygen. Also a mask with filter and prefarably able to produce oxygen.
-It is very easy to get lost. You lose your sense of direction quite quickly and there will be no one coming to help you.
-There is a possbility to fall down a shaft, raise or stope.
-There is a risk of rock fall
-There is nothing interesting enough to see there
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>>777321
>air quality
This is true. Exploring popular mines is generally safe because others served as canaries, but going to unexplored ones without a monitor is always a gamble.
>It is very easy to get lost.
Not if you make a map and/or leave path markers (glowsticks/spray paint/whatever).
>There is a possbility to fall
>risk of rock fall
This applies to climbing and mountaineering as well. The problem is people think abandoned mine exploration is an activity for casuals because many of them are easily accessible, whereas the risk is really more on par with cave diving or free climbing. You don't participate unless you accept this level of danger.
>nothing interesting enough to see there
For you, perhaps.
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This is really interesting, but I wouldn't keep fucking around in mines. You're pressing your luck. The air could be bad, there may be industrial waste, the tunnels haven't been maintained, and a lot could happen. And if it does, you die alone in a tunnel.
Pic related, it's a flooded air shaft for an old coal mine in Pennsylvania
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>>777075
Yessir, just a bit northeast up the Coquihalla from Hope (pic related).
>>777140
They're all massive stopes, definitely blasted out.
>>777156
Some quick Googling points towards the BC/Alberta border, I don't go that far. I typically stick to southwestern BC.
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>>777573
>I don't go that far
You should. They're relatively popular, some Alberta urbex people did a story on their explorations, which is where I first heard of them.
Nice part is Monarch and Kicking Horse are in the mountains on either side of the highway by Field, so you don't have to trek for hours to find the entrance. Monarch is right above the campground, so it's more popular, whereas Kicking Horse take a bit of a climb and shimmy across a cliff face to get to. But they're both worth it if you're into mines. Some really neat little crystal formations in Kicking Horse.
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>>767777
I too have explored the Carolin. We had 7 flashlights, an entire box of batteries, food, water, and a first aid kit. We also had someone who knew when we would phone, so in case something happened they could call it in. Exploring mines is not casual business. OP I ran into you in the /ccg/ on /o/.
Anyways, I'll dump a few pictures of other mines I have explored, none of the pictures I took inside the Carolin are any better than whats already been posted.
This mine is located on Texada island, it was a copper mine active in the 1930's and 40's. It was quite small and took about 20 mins to explore.
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>>777873
This is of my favorite shot's I've ever taken.
This was a giant crushing/sorting facility built into the side of a hill. Operational from roughly the 50's to the 80's. That staircase was sketchy as fuck, but still good enough to walk on.
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>>777888
Crushing machine at the bottom.
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>>777893
Sorting building. It used to have conveyor belts connecting it to the other building built into the side of the cliff.
>>777888
Also just noticed my double trips, holy shit.
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>>777894
Thread opens with quads, resurrected with double trips, what have we done?
That mill looks awesome, great pictures. I have a good friend moving to Campbell River this summer and I'll definitely be visiting his place at least once, Texada Island will be right in my path. Could you mark this mine on Google Maps?
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>>777925
Or at least confirm whether it's in the blue circle or red circle and I'll start seeking out directions somewhere other than 4chan.
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>>777930
Top left of red circle is correct, make sure to do it on a Sunday, as the Quarry is still active. Keep in mind you'll have to take the Ferry to Powell River before you can get to Texada, so if you're bringing a car you'll have to factor ferry costs.
Pic is in the top of the sorting building.
Beware of rotting floorboards and rusty stairs :^)
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>>777270
Is that what I think it is?
>>777460
>others served as canaries
Kek
>>777873
>We also had someone who knew when we would phone, so in case something happened they could call it in.
I don't know why people don't do this. And not even for going into mines but in any /out/ activity.
>>777881
Scared.jpg
>>777888
Wow, looks cool but I don't have the balls to walk those stairs.
Nice dub trips too. And they're in order.
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last bumparooni for tonight
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>>767874
Those veins are likely primarily made up of the mineral "pyrite"
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>>767777
There's a mine here in AZ that's big enough to drive a truck into. I was thinking about taking it as far back as I can in my rig. Any one ever done anything like that. Or have any advice
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>>772975
here I've pinpointed where the workings are, might be cool to check out and only about 45 minute drive from hope
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>>778304
pic
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>>777953
It's explosive used for blasting in the mine didn't take anything with me other than some minerals. Have about a 3 lb sample of the local ore without anything in it and a few specimens with some tourmaline on them. It got quite humid in there and there was condensation and rust on the electrical. there were a lot of clothes in the main entrance as well.
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>>778308
Here's a picture of the main locked entrance and the spooky clothes and national geographic magazines.
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>>778174
That's what I thought but I couldn't find a good image of sulphuric pyrite ore to convince me.
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>>778313
Yeah unlike other sulphide minerals pyrite doesn't tarnish
Its presence and abundance also makes sense in the context of that geological environment
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>>778308
Nice finds
Would like to see some higher res photos 2bh
What is the shape/form of the purplish mineral in that lower sample?
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Nice thread. Im going to some abandoned mines to find malachite. i didnt plan on going inside, just checking out the rock piles around. Anyways cool beans
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>>778513
>malachite
Dragon armor is better than glass, pleb.
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>>778453
>pyrite doesn't tarnish
sure it does.
It very slowly turns into rust and sulfur.
Like the sulfur on those mine walls. The sulfur you keep calling pyrite.
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>>778457
I'll take some pictures with my camera on a white background when I get home from work tonight but to be honest focusing on something as fine as crystal cleavage is p difficult.
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>>778558
Well I was just wondering if the purplish mineral was columnar or more plate-like/flaky in form
>>778553
Pyrite will break down chemically, yes. But it will not tarnish like you see with other sulphide minerals such as chalcopyrite or bornite.
For example, your grandmother's silverware will tarnish but pyrite will not.
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>>778594
>Pyrite will break down chemically, yes. But it will not tarnish
um, those are the same things, anon.
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>>778595
Not in the context of mineralogy.
In fact the tarnishing process typically involves the addition of chemical components to the material. Silver will tarnish when it comes in contact with sulphur for instance.
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>>778618
Generally, AN slurry is really stable stuff.
I know that with the old stuff, they added little chunks of TNT to sensitize.
It's probably fine, but I wouldn't light a cigarette anywhere near it.
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>>778624
I'd be more afraid of shock setting it off.
> rock falls on it
> boom
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>>778629
Shouldn't happen unless you have really, really old blasting mixes that include dynamite, or some idiot left behind blasting caps.
Secondary explosives and Ammonium Nitrate blends are very stable, but dynamite tends to start "sweating" nitroglycerin after a while, and something needs to create the explosion that sets off the main charge.
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>>778631
>dynamite tends to start "sweating" nitroglycerin
Damn. Nitroglycerin goes off if you sneeze. That was the point of tnt, stabilize it for safe handling.
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I have photos from some years ago when I was young and crazy...
(we had helmets, food, water and experienced guides)
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>>778749
Same mine, limestone to make cement. there are kilometers of tunnels on several levels in this one. Sorry for the size of the images I don't have originals on this computer.
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>>778737
>Nitroglycerin goes off if you sneeze.
It doesn't, actually. It's more sensitive than most secondaries, which is why, as you mentioned, it was stabilized (originally with diatomaceous earth to make dynamite; tnt is trinitrotoluene, a completely different explosive) to render it safe for industrial use. But it's not like they show in movies, where it goes off if you look at it the wrong way.
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I climbed to the top of that storage tank. The ladder was still very sturdy. I figure I may as well post a few photo's I took at the Carolin. (Not OP btw)
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>>778299
Don't fucking do you in bread piece of shit. Why the fuck would you drive into a mine the fucking noise of the truck could make it colaps and no one gets to see it you fucking dump fuck
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>>778311
ive seen this pic on 4chan before, and if not this one then a pic of the exact same thing
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>>779189
I have posted this photo before probably both on /p/ and /out/ so that doesn't surprise me.
>>778618
The front of the mine definitely served as a miners home for a time. The two cabinets are both open and hide what's in between them and the locked mine door which is the spoopy part even though nothing is back there.
>>778594
This picture was the best I could do sorry for the late response it's mostly plate like but embeded in the host mineral but there are some notable small crystal formations with what appears to be bilateral cleavage
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>>778935
>it was stabilized... to render it safe for industrial use.
when it's frozen and then thawed it forms crystals of pure nitro that then become beads of the stuff that soak into the paper wrapping.
Dynamite that's been exposed to freezing air is at least as sensitive as Hollywood likes to portray it. Thousands of miners and construction workers have died over the years handling the stuff after it froze.
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>>767895
How are the pipes still pressurized? any ideas?
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>>779201
No worries I was just curious about the form
I'm 99% certain that the purplish mineral is "lepidolite". It is basically a lithium-bearing mica.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidolite
That is a really nice specimen you have there anon. I've seen much less remarkable finds in university collections.
Where did you find that sample?
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>>779201
Also the host mineral is quartz, obviously. In case you were wondering.
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>>779217
probably by being at least 1000 feet below the water source.
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That is pretty cool. My brother and uncle went into a mine near Kamloops that my grandfather blew his fingers off when he was a kid. Don't play with blasting caps.
One tip to make sure you don't get lost. My grandpa had this case worn on the belt that you loaded string into. You would tie it to something and as you walked it would unwind. Tons of string on a roll, very handy for walking in the bush. No clue what it is called, but I know it was used by loggers.
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Getting some Alan Wake vibes from this thread.
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>>779819
Hope it was more robust than string.
> hands free fapping
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>>767831
That's an awesome photo
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>>778299
Im not sure anon I never drove a truck into a old mine. I personally wouldn't. But hey give it a shot.
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>>779099
OP here, also climbed that ladder last year. Did you go inside the shack and look down into the silo? It was a really sunny day so there were beams of sunlight shooting in through all of the gunshot holes crisscrossing down the length of the silo, I really wish I had gotten a picture of that.
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>>769338
>>769492
Gas mask won't help shit all when all your clothes will be covered in it, so make sure to pack disposable protective clothing too, and tape up anything that might let dust in.
Old military surplus NBC (Heavy duty rain clothes mainly meant to keep contaminants of the skin and make decontamination easier) suits are good for this.
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>>779819
>my grandfather blew his fingers off when he was a kid. Don't play with blasting caps.
My great uncle did that too. Those were the days.
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>>782823
Your grandfather blew me as a kid along with your uncle
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>>783193
Fucking rekt
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>>777270
In southern cali where?!
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>>785075
By the circle k on that one street
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Kennecott copper mine, Alaska
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bumping this thread cus it's still fucking cool
I found a carbide lamp once exploring a mining camp in NorCal
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You guys probably already know but if you dont this guy makes tons of videos on this subject
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCy8iWxf1Us
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>>777888
You are braver than i am, Sadly here on the east coast where i am there were mainly Gypsum mines which were built into the side of riverbanks so they are almost all reduced to wet crawlspaces with nothing inside them,My biggest fear would be to fall through a rotted board or rusty metal floor
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>>788354
that was fun.
Him constantly calling it a tunnel just grated on my nerves though. If he knows what a manway and an orepass is he knows that's not a tunnel.
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>>788318
Neat!
Pics of the inside?
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>>767839
Asbestos isnt dangerus unless heated or måde into a dust.. thats why so many old buildings are left standing because its hella expensive to tear down
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>>788734
No. Absolutely not.
Asbestos is friable naturally, like when it comes out of the ground or is just sitting in the ground. Asbestos is extremely thin fibers that are really good at floating in the air, and literally so thin that when they get into your cells their ends poke your DNA and cause genetic damage.
There have been many studies that show lung cancer rates are significantly increased for populations living nearby natural asbestos deposits.
There are some forms of asbestos used that are already encapsulated, like transite pipe and asbestos tiles, and for these they are only dangerous when they get heated or ground into dust, but for natural asbestos and almost every type of asbestos product this is not the case and they are dangerous as-is.
The reason many old buildings are left with asbestos in them is, as you say, it is expensive to remove, but also because in many cases you can create a worse problem by trying to move the asbestos and it is better to just encapsulate it on site instead of trying to remove it and spread asbestos everywhere. Many of the old buildings that are not in use are also owned by now-defunct corporations and dead people, so who exactly should be cleaning it up is not clear.
I have heard what you posted (or similar) most often being told to workers by their superiors that don't want to properly protect or inform their workers but still want to bid on jobs for the hazardous removal, and since they don't intend on actually doing it properly they get lowest bid and pocket the extra money that would have gone towards safety. If you're ever working for someone or on a job where this is happening, walk immediately and don't look back. If you're in country where the government actually gives a shit about it, sic whatever agency on them too because what they're doing is complete bullshit.
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