Slovenian camping guy again

>>756309
You need to start camping. Use whatever equipement you have right now and take note of everything you can improve. But you need to do an overnighter.

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Concrete structure I founds sticking out of the earth, any ideas guys?

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>>756312
Yes, I have to, I'm just afraid you know , never done it before.

Some wooden fort I found not too deep in.

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Just some greenery.

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From now on the rest of the images are from the highlands on the other side of the river. Would it even be considered camping if I stayed on top of a hill with the city still visible and the dark forest to my back?

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This is the top of the hill where I want to set up camp.

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Quite a nice view, but its only a few hundred meters from farm houses. Maybe I can use the easy camping spot to build up courage for the harder ones.

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More of the view.

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Left slope of the hill. Its not very isolated.

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Down to my last two images, recently visited an isolated Arboretum outside of the city I can post those if anyone wants?

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I can also post images from one trip ago, saw some deer in the mountain, they screamed or made "coughing" sounds like a dying human. Was creepy, one stared right at me for about a minute.

>>756328
If it's near some houses chances are they will be triggered by you camping next to the growing vines. I'd let them know before hand that I'm planning to camp there.

This seems like a nice spot >>756323

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>>756339
I'm afraid of deep forest but I guess it is an option. The hill spot has some blind spots maybe I can find one and set up camp there also.

I will start posting images from the mountain trip from before now.

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The mountain holds some very nice greenery.

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Lush, but it seems loggers have been here alot, so many treestumps.

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Built one of these so I don't get lost, also used my knife to carve arrows into the fallen down dead trees to make indicators of where I came from.

>>756342
The forest spot seems bretty gud because you have a lot of wood there to build a little and very controlled fire. That's a moral raiser. Is there any animal there that can eat you? If not, there's nothing to fear.

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For some reason this tree looked nice.

>>756350
No only scary noise making deer, as I said the only threat I encountered was a falling tree.

>>756348
Get a cheap android cellphone and record your track m8.

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>>756352
How do you record tracks? With google maps?

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This is the tree stump where the deer were running by.

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Last picture, from my return, civilization is near here. Barely visible buildings through the foliage.

Going to bed, will check thread in a few hours. Goodnight fellow outdoorsmen, hope you have a nice calm and relaxing day with nature.

>>756319
Damn I want that to be my base for my 10 year old self and pals

Your country is beautiful OP

>>756391
I wonder why it is there though? Logging?

>>756393
It truly is, I'm not a native but I wish I lived here, only 2 months or so left on educational stay.

>>756395
you a serb?

https://youtu.be/8LkyruirJDI

>>756319
that would be a very cool spot to camp

fix it up a bit, clean up the ground

safety against some wild creatures, set up some tripwires with cans and boom

>>756415
Too close to the trail and a football area, wouldnt be nice if someone bothered me in the middle of the night.

>>756400
Nope.

>>756309
>river dam I built
LNT you asshole. How fucking hard is that to understand?

>>756309
>a damn I built

Dont do shit like this OP.

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>>756444
>>756456

>>756444
>>756456
Fuck off fags

>>756456
Why not? Are you scoffing at a non existent spelling error?

>>756645
They're just LNT extremists.

LNT is short for

>No
>Fun
>Allowed.

It's it was supposed to keep fuckers from littering but some took it a bit too far.

>>756688
>extremists

Not fucking up the wildlife isn't that extreme, faggot

>>756707
Agreed.
OPs dam has blocked the aquaric life from accessing any of the habitat up river.
>>756688
If you think that isnt a big deal you're a moron.

>>756688
Why do you have to fuck shit up to have fun?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1ft2q4ckQI

>>756309
>Pic related is a river dam I built in the mountain stream for some relaxation.
you can't even imagine the damages you provoked, Janez

>>756767
This. These little river dams are the number one cause of mudslides. One won't hurt. But then other people go and built another one, and so on. In a couple years enjoy your mud slide

>>756728
dude. this where rocks. simple rocks.
c-a-l-m-d-o-w-n.

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>from another country
>comes here and goes around fucking up things

>>756355
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ilyabogdanovich.geotracker&hl=en

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>>756848
Slovenia hasn't been so crippled by crudely-hindered mountain streams since Caesar peppered the landscape with loose stone dams, bringing the local population to its knees and securing the eastern mediterranean for rome for the next 400 years

oh how will the nation recover from this

>>756717
There was no aquatic life you knob. I am very cautious about damaging/altering wildlife and the surrounding foliage, that stream formed as a result of the recent rain, no fish, no crustaceans just flowing water , not even toads.

>>756317
we have a couple of those near my house. They were going to be for a 3rd rail line's platform, but that never worked out.

>>756355
There is a thread about navigation apps right now. Go lurk

>>756319
I saw a nearly identical one in the Javornik hills

>OP's woods near the city: gorgeous
>My woods near the city: fuck-blankets everywhere

man fuck california

>>757091
the good thing about CA is it's yuge with tons of awesome wilderness.

the bad thing is the cities are big and bloated and homelessy. you in stockton? crescent city?

>>756309
Zdravo z naravo.

>>757025
I'm perplexed as to what these forts are used for, they seem to be near recently logged zones.

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Slovenian OP here, >>757177 Nature sure is healthy. I'll start posting images from the hike i did today, the heat was sweltering but I think It was well worth it. Pic related is the path I took on the map.

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Sorry for the blurry images, invested some money in a discrete camera, hopefully it won't dissappoint!

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>>757193
The previous image contains some sort of tarp + foliage based shelter I found, any ideas on what it might be? Maybe a shroom growing operation? Rainproofing for firewood? It was very well concealed and in a peculiar location.

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The forest was nice and tranquil, I heard some woodpeckers, saw a squirrel. There were some nice spots for camping too might give it a go since the Northern foliage is very well concealed, The trail was covered with overgrowth, probably people avoid it.

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Some sort of mycelium. Was very tough, I liked how it looked though.

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More foliage.

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There was a valley like cravess on the slopes of the hill. I slid down it on the way back, got my hands muddy, luckily there were a few streams nearby to wash off.

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This is the run down path. I found like a concrete square shaped stone on the right side of the path, do you guys think its a path marker?

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My final image, these moss covered roots always feel so comfy to sit on. It feels like im being electrically grounded when I take a rest on tree roots, its a nice feeling. Had some orange juice and then continued to the city.

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Here is a map of the places I have already explored. Any suggestions? I haven't attempted camping anywhere yet but I definitely want to just walk out into the wilderness at some point. The West is just pure mountain ranges and small towns.

I don't know why but I find this Slovenian anon to be a total bro. Would have a nice cold beer with you if I lived there, mate.

>>757228
Thanks mate , would love to any time. I bet you are pretty bro tier too.

>be kid in the 1980s
>live in rural area
>damned up dozens of streams/river during low water times to make swimming/fishing holes

Nature does not give a shit. So, long as you are not making a massive damn that is really high, where the water can erode the banks around it, it doesn't matter.

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>>757219
on offence, but i wouldn't consider that /out/.
You gotta leave Maribor.
Pic related Viševnik(2050m)

>>757381
>>be kid in the 1980s
>>live in rural area
why did you feel the need to include that nostalgic crap?

>>757184
Kids here make them everywhere and they use recently logged areas because they have lots of wood already cut

>>757606
No one yelled LNT back then every 5 seconds.

>>757652
One of the first things we did as boy scouts. Whenever we had spare time and were unmonitored we would build a shelter for absolutely no reason. Not even being sarcastic.

>>757797
>unmonitored we would build a shelter for absolutely no reason

i'm sure psychologists would have a field day with that one

>all those years of subconscious homoeroticism
>the overbearing authority of the male pack leaders
>any number of the troop boys being secretly molested
>automatically start building shelters like tormented lab mice
kek

>>757803
holy shit freud calm down kek

I wouldn't even be surprised if you're right though, even though the akela (den mother in the U.S.?) was a fat landwhale

>>757803
kek

>>756444
>>756456
>>756707
>>756717
>>756728
>>756767
>>756838
>>757381

You guys realize that fucking DNR builds these on purpose quite frequently on rivers so that the water is more oxygenated and provides more places for fish to rest while going back up stream. Yes fish fucking go upstream, fucking salmon go up fucking water falls for fuck sakes. Large fuckhuge hydroelectric dams obviously have little benefit unless fish ladders are built.

Bottom line a string of rocks across a stream isn't going to fucking harm anything unless it is near a flood plain.

>>757203
Looks like Fomes fomentarius. They used to use them to make fire before matches were invented.

>>757817
Okay José lets go build strings of rock everywhere and see how the fish do. Of course your /out/ knowledge is so bountiful it excuses dam-building behaviour. You're so smart. In fact, I think you can build all the dams the DNR builds just by yourself, you fantastic human being.

>>757889
Yes actually my /out/ knowledge is quite bountiful considering I work for the Canadian Natural Resources. We frequently employ scouts to help us using them as free labour and teaching them about the aquatic life in the area.

And we don't usually use just rocks, logs are inherently easier to build these dams being that deadfall is everywhere.

While LNT has some merit, you overzealous city fags need to back the fuck off.

>>757922
That's fine José. Please tell us more about how fish swim upsteam in OP's pic and how OP's dam creates a nice resting place for them.

Also enlighten us on how OP's dam is of no consequence to the surrounding woodland and other aquatic critters beside fish, oh oracle of knowledge.

>>757931

To preface, you can see very little of the stream in question and I do not know anything at all about the local terrain or wildlife. However I can observe that:

1) That dam is very poorly constructed and will not last long it will either erode the sides and go around or it will simply fall apart from the force of the water.
2) It is improving dissolved oxygen levels.
3) I can neither prove nor disprove there are fish in that stream, the dam in question has created a small pond that fish can rest in. I can observe that there is a pretty good grade to the stream so if they are going up that is where they might rest.
4) Most small dams are created on relatively flat and shallow streams and rivers, even without a dam being in one fish will swim behind rocks and other objects as it is calorically easier and also good places to ambush prey.
5) It is obvious you're just a troll, ecological systems are quite complex and you're a big boy now you can easily fucking google "stream restoration" and "effects of stream restoration" etc ad infinitum. Hell, you might even find a group of volunteers near you who engage in stream restoration. I am sure you could learn something if you manage to crawl out of your mothers basement.

>>757941
So one of your arguments why you think a dam there is a good idea is literally "it won't hold for long". But, you know, I'm "just a troll" and I need to "get out of my mom's basement".

You insufferable double nigger. You're what's wrong with /out/. You admit to knowing nothing about the terrain, but you have no problem telling literally 8 anons that they're overzealous city fags. Meanwhile, you can't even take a wild guess if this shitty sporadic rain stream has any fish, but you center all your pro-dam arguments around oxygen levels, resting places and ambushing places ~if there are fish~.

You know nothing besides fish.

Get /out/.

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Don't you have these cunts to build your dams?

>>757950
>relying on beaver cunts
pussy

>>757951
beavers flood more people than fucking kids building rock gardens in local streams.

>>757947
Fish are not the only life in a stream anon. "shitty sporadic rain streams" around here at least are important to baby eels. I have a license to catch the fry and some of my best harvest spots are in these.

>>757947
lol look at this cunt, just look at him.

That natural resources guy/gal actually works with nature you cunt, for fucks sakes go get fucked and get that internal blockage out that's making you rage.

Sincerely, an australian who has never even seen a shitty rain stream.

>>757947
The guy literally works /out/

You tell him to get /out/

Jesus fuck you millennials.

who western slovenia / Brda here?

>>757968
>>757971
>huuuuhhh he works in nature, therefore everything he says is true

Really hoping it's that guy samefagging, otherwise I'm very concerned for you two. Do you trust a fisherman when it comes to hunting deer too, or can you actually recognise those two as having different skill sets?

>>757967
Fair enough point actually, that's why I tried to push his ass towards aquatic critters and not just ~fish~.

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Slovenian Camping OP here.

>>757576
I will, don't worry, I'm planning multiple trips to nice /out/ locations. Plus i'll be getting a new camera soon so expect some great photos on this board! I will keep you guys up to date.

>>757606
I'ts his childhood memory no need to be a dick?

>>757652
I see.
>>757797
I never had such opportunity as a child since I lived deep in the city. We would do urabnex as kids instead, go in abandoned/burned down buildings, surprised we never got killed by a hobo or junkie.

>>757817
>>757889
No need to make a big deal, I checked the dam today and the recent rain had made it give in. There are no fish in that stream either.

>>757838
How so? Enlighten me would like to learn some bushcraft.

>>757941
This guy gets it.

Also for the guy who has been raging and has no sense of fun, I't just some rocks brother, I bet mother nature has a bigger effect on that river than I do, natural rockslides, treefall, foliage, debris etc..

I will post a video of the stream if this is still an issue.

Pic related is a nice little rain stream I found on the banks of the Drava river.

>>758116
It's not an issue bro no worries

>>757967
>Fish are not the only life in a stream
>eels

Eels are fish.
Or did I miss your point?

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>>758127
Thanks, I know this is kind of strange but I started a youtube channel for /g/ a while back to review products I ordered to Slovenia from China, I recently reviewed some fishing gear and I will be reviewing more /out/ related stuff. Pls no bully. I'm not a professional when it comes to fishing gear. Pic related is a photo I took of the Drava.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCNEcL1eSr7FeA4RMQE6UXxg

>>756309
>slovenian camping guy
>is afraid of camping

>>757199
This is a very nice spot to set up camp

>>757219
Lobnica looks pretty /out/ for where you are. Go have a blast

>>758135
Why the fuck do you need the guy to list every possible organism you insufferable cunt. Holy fuck keep spergin'

>>756309
I would bitchslap you into next month if I saw you damming one of my rivers. You are a total fucktard OP.

>>758135
There's no such thing as a fish.

>>758116
>How so? Enlighten me would like to learn some bushcraft.

Never done it myself, but basically you just beat the insides of the fungus. The colour of the insides varies I guess, but If it is Fomes fomentarius it should look quite brownish. You keep beating it till it's quite soft. Then you soak it in lye (? is the the real word?), but apparently water works too.

You can light it up with a tinderbox for example. You can move the fire because the fungus smoulders for quite long. Fomes fomentarius is the only fungus I know that works, but there is others too. Here they are quite common, the most common fungus on a birch. I guess there is birches in Slovenia too, but they should be able to grow on beeches and aspens too.

>>758499
You can't own a river faggot

>>756337
That looks cozy.

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OP here.

>>758255
Allright Lobnica it is, I've made up my mind going tommorow.

>>758540
I will try this on my next hike. Thank you so much.

>>758563
Yeah Slovenia is a cozy country. Especially near mountainous areas.

Pic related is a sharp stick i made a while back.

>>756309
Hey, I liked this thread. Very pretty. It reminds me of a mix of the Catskills and Ireland. Love those rolling hills.

>>758556
You certainly can.
>>758594
If you're smart you'd better take that sharp stick with you. If I find you fucking up nature you're going to need it. You need to learn and practice LNT fucknut.

>>758679
I made the sharp stick from debris. Why are you so agressive?

>>758594
So you are the guy that does the reviews at /g/?

>>758687
Yup I'm the one. Thats why I ordered outdoors gear too.

>>758688
Nice, what did you order? Your reviews are quite good. Looking forward for the /out/ related reviews.

>>758710
For /out/ gear I ordered a full blown tent branded hewolf it looks awesome especially for solo camping. A "CIMA" branded diving knife , it has a sort of spear tip so should be fun to use. I already reviewed the a cree flashlight. Got some carabiners and paracord incoming and cycling gloves. I also ordered a simple canvas pack for light outdoors/daily use. When my new camera arrives the video quality will improve phenomenally. The audio upgrade is incoming too so definitely stay tuned! I'm also considering a /out/ related new channel hopefully. Anyway thank you for following my work, i'm glad you appreciate it, after all someone has to review chinese noname products.

>>758710
Oh and here is the two current /out/ related product reviews.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SwRnWdRxaEo
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=60RnNR1kdw8

This thing counts as an /out/ product since its also solar powered, good for tent lighting.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-kR9rDVWjSI

>>758734
>>758738
Nice!

Have you think about your stove yet? I bought an alocs alcohol stove for about 10 bucks and has worked for me so far for weekend hikes. I still carry my remote canister stove when I go over the tree line, but for comfy camping I'd suggest you an alcohol stove because of the simplicity of use.

Also, imo this review is very helpfull for /out/ purposes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2R_qHcs6Bk

A lot of us use our cellphones to navigate so power sources when we are /out/ have become an important item in our packs.

>>758683
Because river is important and with no study you mess it up possibly killing many species to death.
You need to practice LNT and stop messing with things of no understanding to you.

>>758794
Dont worry i checked the river for wildilfe it only formed recently due to the heavy rain, usually isnt there. But again im sorry if i did any harm none intended i respect nature just as much as you do.

>>758749
And thank you , I try my best to be comprehensive yet concise in my reviews. I will check out a stove , the problem is i will be leaving here in a few months so i don't want to buy gear i cannot take back with me.

>>758679
Good you LNT fags can be annoying sometimes, like i get not going around throwing away cans and shit but goddamn learn to have some fun and not be constricted because you can't break a single stick because "it'll ruin the ecosystem and the world will fucking implode"

>>758679
Actually no you cannot, in North America and probably most of the EU. Look at any fishing regulations regarding trespassing dumbfuck.

>>756309
OOO kako lepo videt slovenca se na tem delu foruma ne pa sam na /b/ cancerju

>>759452
Če prav razumem thread ni slovenec, pač pa študent v Mariboru iz nekeg mesta(>>758116) ki več ali manj samo kroži po nekih gmajnah pri Mariboru >>757219

>>759464
A je pomembno če je slovenc al pa študent?

>>758844
NA, you cannot fish any water on/from my land without my permission.
Don't make up rules you want to believe.
Coastal you cannot come above the high water mark. You can fish below the tiide line.

>>758812
>it'll ruin the ecosystem and the world will fucking implode"
Ray Bradbury - A Sound of Thunder

>>759503
Ne ni. Ampak ni pa slovenec tako kot si predvideval v prejsni objavi.
Upam da cimbolj spozna naravo slovenije, oziroma naravo.

>>759520
Delusional, yuppie cunt.

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OP here , finally did it! Currently in tent its 9.20PM here pretty dark and rainy but the sound is very relaxing.

>>759678
Nisem ista oseba kot >>759452 sem tretji slovenski anon

>>759689
Se opravičujem.
>>759689
>>759687
>>759452
Meetup when?

>>759700
Whenever you want

>>759687
Nice man! What are you going to cook? Going to make a fire?

>>759705
Im a bit too close to civilization to be starting a fire , plus I doubt i can in the rain. I bought some bockwurst (pickled sausages) some chocolate raisins and some toasted bread with tuna and mayo. Should last me till tommorow morning when I pack up and go back.

>>759718
To keep your fire contained next time you can make one of these at home. It's literally disposable >>753268

>>759742
Wouldnt a pit surrounded with rocks suffice?

>>759748
Dakota? Sure. Takes more time though

>>759687
Is that a single wall? Does it have more vents besides the thing on the top? Watch out for condensation.

>>759767
Yeah only vents at the top , condensation is an issue but thats allright. Cheap tent anyway. And I will make a dakota next camp.

Heard leaves shuffling , maybe its a pig? Scared me so i confronted the noise with a flashlight only silence now

>>759875
Could have been a rat

>>759884
Yeah but it was like fast jumping , do rats jump?

>>759896
lol of course they jump

>>759905
Can hear them squeaking near the tent. Cant get any shuteye.

>>760003
shoulda brought a flamenwerfer friend

>>760003
think about the ocean, a sunny beach

good night mango

>>760003
Well you are invading their space, so be polite with them.

>>760009
Too drastic. I'll let the squeaky bastards be as long as they dont try to chew through the tent. Then ill have to body slam them.
>>760014
Sleep is hard for me my friend. I have a fear of the dark.

>>760020
Dont worry i dont hurt nature as long as there is no harm done to me.

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Theres a lot of condensation buildup, what should I do?

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>>760041
whelp RIP in peace OP. he had a good run guise, did some exploring, camped-out finally. he was a good chap too. may his zeal and enthusiasm inspire us all. we'll miss him †

>>760041
There's nothing you can do by now. You could open the door of your tent and ventilate it, but it would take hours for that to dry. And you'll be eaten by those mice from hell.

Your best scenario would be that temp drops to freezing point so those drops wont fall over you by the morning. But that's not happening.

Brace.

>>760041
Try wiping it off with a towel or something. You'll definitely be wanting to get a better tent.

>>760051
Can i pack the tent up whilst its still wet?

>>760052
Ordered one its stuck in shipping , i will use tissues or tshirt to clean it up.

>>760053
you can, but when you get back make sure you open it up and let it dry really well for a day or two before you pack it up and store it long-term. that wetrot will take hold and destroy it one way or another if you store it while it's wet

>>760056
Be gentle so you dont knock all the drops down. Maybe open the door a little at the top if you can.

>>760053
Yes you can, but make sure you set it up again and air it out the next day when you get home.

>>760058
>>760057
Thanks anons I sure will do so.

Besides that I think the sun will rise in 50mins hopefully then i'll feel safer and pack up. Animals are waking up now , can hear birds.

>>760053
Of course m8, no worries. Just take care of it when you get home, turn it inside out and let it dry, clean it and store it again for future use or whatever.

Condensation is a common problem with tents. It's just water. You can get very well ventilated tents but they tend to be cold. It's one way or the other. No worries man. We've all been through that. In the end it's part of the fun. You'll do better next time because you are taking mental notes about what could be improved or what you need for your next overnighter.

>>760061
You survived then. 2 hours before sunrise is the coldest time. Nice anon. Well done.

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>>760067
Yay do I get a /out/ badge for surviving a whole night now?

I packed up and went for a hill hike and then rode my bike back home. Was really tiring my pack weighed a tonne and the lack of a sleeping mat made lying down very uncomfortable. The debris under the tent caused muscle strain in the morning. I have a sleeping mat, problem is I do not know how to attach it to my pack. The sleeping bag was okay, very large would be my only complaint since it only cost 15 Euros from Lidl.

>>760062
Anon you said I should clean the tent, how would one come around doing this? Obviously I cannot just throw it in the washing machine?

Pic related is the church encountered atop of a hill during the hike.

>>759700
Come to the Javornik mountain range, bring protection and lube!

>>760192
>do I get
NO, you didn't sleep and spent the night on the internet on your phone. You get shit, you didn't really camp.

>>760249
>protection and lube
Nice Superbad reference.

>>760249
Looks like a really nice area. I wonder How I can get there from Maribor.

>>760275
You are right I suppose. I'll try harder next time, already found a location to hike to.

>>760354
>How to get there from Maribor
Well driving would be a good start though you should just move from there anyway

>>760192
>Anon you said I should clean the tent, how would one come around doing this
A damp cloth does the trick. Just remove any mud or random stains that are usually at the bottom. When it's dries, fold it and put it away. ALWAYS with the zippers open, the same with your sleeping bag.

Btw, you might think it's a shitty tent and maybe it is, but take care of it. You never know when you'll need it even if you get a better one.

>>760249
>Javornik
>idrija
God forsaken place
>>760354
Go to Kamnik and their mountain range
You can use train or buses

>>760829
the part of the Javornik at Cerknica are pretty godly at some places though you have to walk a bit to find the nice bits

>>760829
I think Kamnik will be easier anon, thanks for the recommendation.

>>761436
I don't mind walking.