New knoife thread, old these nearing bump limit >>731461

Can anyone recommend me a nice inexpensive sharpener that I can buy at an outdoors store?

>>746913
I'm not sure if you'll find it at an outdoors store but the lansky guided sharpener isn't too expensive and it works pretty well

>>746927
this

also, get a cheap combo/fine stone and practice stroking back and forth manually...once you get into the rhythm it isn't that hard

>>746913

check out the lansky turnbox - easy to use, works on everything (recurve or not) - just be careful not to drop ceramic rods - bad times.

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>>746910
>nearing bump limit
Asshole. Wait until the old thread HITS bump limit, and, if you're not a complete douche, let the fucker slide off the front page. Then make a new one.

I can only afford one - a hatchet or a big fixed blade knife?

Currently I already have a spiderco ladybug, so really I just need something for wood cutting/splitting.

>>746988

define afford.

I'd suggest a decent kukri - far better for chopping/splitting than 90% of "large knives", but the ones from HI are around $180.

Or get a mora and a hatchet.

>>746988
Hatchet.

Is my knife any good guys? Going camping with it soon.
>>746626

>>747020

no idea - I have never seen this brand. Handle looks comfortable enough, and if the blade is 3 inches or more, it should handle all the camping tasks. It won't be stellar, but it's a knife - it'll work.

Generally, when in doubt, get a mora or an opinel, and you won't be wrong (and it won't set you back more than 12-15 dollars).

>>746997
>mora and a hatchet

pretty much

$25-35 for a fiskars hatchet/small axe (about the same for a half hatchet, but only for small stuff)
$10-15 for a mora

>>746944
>;-;

If it bothers you so much you can go post in the dead thread?

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>>746944
You're asking way too much. I have been bitching about them making new threads when the old one is only at 200 replies. At least they waited until the old one was close to 300 before making this one. I'm not complaining this time since it was such a huge step forward.

And you can't really expect them to wait until the old one gets to Page 3 or whatever, assuming they did actually wait until it hit 310 replies. /out/ is a slow board so it could take a day before it makes it that far.

>>746913
>>746927
I thnk I have seen that Lansky one at Bass Pro before. That company Wilson's makes a real similar one that they sell at a lot of Dick's, and I'm betting they have that at Bass Pro or Cabela's as well. I think the kits run around $30 with the 3-4 stones, clamp deal, and some oil.

Anyway, I bought that Smith's double-sided diamond one from Dick's for around $20. It has a coarse and fine side. Does a good job getting the knife 80% of the way, but the fine side isn't fine enough to make it razor sharp. I just use the bottom off a ceramic coffee mug as a final step and they get pretty damn sharp.

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What do you lads think of this knife?

>>747422
I heard good things about it, but i don't like the grind, and overall too clunky 4 me.

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http://www.knivesandtools.co.uk/en/pt/-helle-eggen-75-all-round-outdoor-knife.htm#tabbutton1

Hows this for £65? Its light, good steel, purdy + nice sheath.

I don't wanna get a mora cause apparently they break quite a lot?

I need a knife for firewood for light hiking trips

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>>746944
He's determined to have his "knoife" thread. If he waits too long, someone else might start a knife thread.

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Got a new knife a while back and figured i'd share it.

It's a chinese Izula clone.
Steel is listed as D2 and after some cardboard testing i have no cause to doubt it. It's definitely better wearing than 8cr.
Finish overall is great and sheath is very secure.
Only negative is that the tip grind is a bit uneven when seen from above but it's very minor and nothing that affects use.
Came sharp.

15$ on aliexpress, highly recommended.

>>747503
and by the way, there are two different versions on ali, the coated ones for 5-12$ are supposedly shit, so stay away from those and go with this d2 version.

>>747503
There is not a single chance in hell its d2

>>747447
Mora don't really break a lot, the only real problem is rolling the edge from hard use

That is a good knife but a Mora would most likely serve you just as well, though it won't be as nice to look at

>>747579
Why not? D2 isnt expensive and the chinese have access to it and know how to forge it. It's a tool steel, not a super steel.

>>747579
The 40$ sebenza clones have been conformed for real titanium and d2 so it's not impossible.
Could also be 440c.

>>747593
Its not an expensive steel but it is more costly to machine and heat treat than garden variety stainless, I've seen a lost of Chinese and Pakistani made knives advertised as 01 or d2 to increase sales when they are made from low end stainless, I'm just from the if "if it sounds too good" school

Try to force a patina, d2 should stain pretty easily with something acidic

>>747447
Thats a fine knife. Its like a mora on steroids.

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How do Grips rate as /out/ knives?

>>747626
Been wondering the same thing actually, been thinking about picking one up myself, seems like a nice knife for sure.

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Welded a forge together and I've got the refractory cement curing on top of some ceramic insulation. Looking forward to using it to actually forge some knives and using it for heat treating my stock removal knives. I had been using a coal bucket forge before and hated it.

>>747626
>>747675
can it do a feather stick well? if yes, yes, if no, no

>>747626

They do pretty well, just don't be a retard and baton with it.

>>747626
Auto knives aren't good for outside use. The dust and dirt will gum up the mechanism it won't open or will open slowly.

>>747420
Love those two bottom knives. The one is a Jeff white, what is the bottom one?

>>747928
>The one is a Jeff white

Don't be racist

>>747933
Well you aren't going to like that the bottom one is a George Black

Any recommendations for an idiot proof sharpener that I can throw in a backpack? Preferably something that can also do serrations.

>>747503
sauce?

>>747993
maybe this

http://www.amazon.com/Lansky-4-rod-Crock-Sharpener-LCD5D/dp/B000B8FW0E

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Hey guys, I know they are not knives but what do you think of wire saws? I know you can buy surplus from the British SAS without much effort and CRKT makes one that fits inside a paracord bracelet that accepts a fire-steel rod, compass, LED flashlight and Bottle Opener as accessories. It seems a lot of companies also make these saws at much lower prices and in two different styles and I'm not really sure which to go with/how to determine which I should go with. Pic related.

>>748036
Get a folding saw instead.

Many people go for a bacho laplander (cheap and work), or you can choose to spend a little more and get a silky saw.

>>747861

Griptilian is not a auto knife you retard. Just like all your equipment, you should maintain it. You clearly don't use knives.

>>748036
I've never used one but videos of them don't inspire much confidence, a folding saw is much better if you expect to have to saw much wood

>>747834

Seems to baton fine. Go to 4:27

http://youtu.be/IqcQsTfgUMk

>>748157

I didn't say you cannot baton with it, it's just dumb and easily ruins the knife.

>>747733
>actually doing and making stuff
Normie! Reeeeeeeeee!

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>>748036
>Hey guys, I know they are not knives but what do you think of wire saws?
IME they suck balls, whenever I've actually tried to use them they usually break half way through the first 2" branch.

I have pic related and it actually works well, and fits in a mint tin size tin. Use it a fair bit in the garden and for MTB trail maintenance as well.

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1/?

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2/?

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3/3

>>748283
Taking that on a school bus seems ill advised.

>>746913
You're better off at a hardware store, I bought a great stone for 1.90euro and it puts a good edge and if i want my knife razor sharp some p2000 or p2500 grit sandpaper does the trick

>>747020
If it can attain a good edge, it'll work just fine for food prep and general tasks, if you want a good carving and general woodwork knife get a mora but they are pretty bad for food prep

>>747422
it has a shit grind that needs alot of reprofiling but other than that i hear it's a great knife

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>>748459
Gotta chase the school kids off somehow

I have been on a 6 months hike through Russia once and only carried some random knife I bought for 5 euros at a flea market. You gearfags are so fucking retarded.

>>748546
>medal
>chest
Choose one

>>748546
I have been on a 6 months hike through Russia once and only carried some random cup I bought for 20 euros at a flea market. You gearfags are so fucking retarded.

>>747486
that would be horrible...

>>748549
Ich choose 1000 moras in my anus

>>748095
>>748111

My thinking is it would just be an EDC item for that SHTF scenario where I have to flee from somewhere I can't bring a folding saw with. I agree a folding saw is better to have around if you can though.

>>748266
Thanks for you recommendation and nice dubs.

>>748111
Nice trips.

>>748575
>I have been on a 6 months hike through Russia once and only carried some random pocket saw I bought for 2 euros at a flea market. You gearfags are so fucking retarded.

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>>748283
>>748528
Nice sheddies

>>748969
What's with Spydershills and plastic handles?

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>>748984

The Endura is probably the thinnest 3.5"+ blade on sale today in a production folder, plus Spyderco does a lot of sprint runs in Japanese steels of the FRN handled models.

For me HAP40, Superblue, and ZDP-289 in a decent blade geometry is well worth the looks and FRN handles.

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Just bought this on Amazon a few days ago. Designed by a climber who holds ( or held ) at least one record. I plan on putting it to work before using it on a trip. Vid related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo7qULaVOOA

>>748984
What's wrong with them? Yeah they're not gunna do what a mora does, but they're not made for that

>>747928
actually all 3 are Nordhammer iron works customs, made by myself. i can see why you thought it was a jeff white though. very similar style knife. the biggest differences are in the handle.

>>747991
that one is also a custom made by myself haha!

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Anyone own this knife?

>>749062
Ohhh i gotcha. Beautiful knives man!

How long have you been making knives for?

What makes the Mora knife the green wool beanie of knives?

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>>748969

>>749080
Nothing any cheap knife will do

>>748984
Nothing wrong with frn handles. The spydies are also steel lined so no trouble with strength. The endura is very light weight and strong, great knife.

>>747503
That looks nice desu anon.

>>749076
Thanks, i've only been at it for about 2 years. i've been blacksmithing for around 3-4 and leatherworking for 6 months.

Do people still believe in the one knife thing?

>>747593
D2 is air quenched and very hard wearing.

So it takes more time and money to heat treat and grind It than the usual 8crmovwhatever.

>>749288
It would appear so

>>749288
What's the one knife thing

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>>749019
Just arrived, pic related. Made for /out/ tasks and /diy/ tasks ( climbing, rigging, etc. ) and I have to say it is more impressive than I thought it would be for a $40 ( MSRP about $60 ) tool.

Blade is an American Tanto partially serrated, serrations are for rope/cable and was made for one-handed deployment while climbing. One handed closing of the blade too via liner-lock.

Above the blade you see a Marlin Spike, Phillips, Flathead & Bottle Opener. They open via thumb-knick and lock in place and pushing the black knob in the direction of them unlocked them to be put away.

One-handed-deployable pliers ( w/ wire cutter, needle nose ). They open by pushing the black knob in the direction the pliers deploy and unlock the same way, allowing you to fold them back in.

I'll prob use them around the home and on small jobs before I take them climbing. Other side of tool has pocket clip and lanyard hole.

>>749451
only carrying one knife, as in, having one knife that can do "it all"

>>749456
But that's dumb.

>>748261
Go back to r9k.

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>>749464

you don't say?

for the record - i have a tracker, and technically - it works as advertised (as in, does everything), but that's not the point.

The "one tool option" is essentially #YOLO given form (the form of a knife). You should always carry two knives (at least), and then there is no need for one knife that does everything. Especially that a good main knife will handle most of what you need anyway.

Spyderco v Benchmade

Which is superior ?

knifes are gay

>>749617

unsolvable riddle.

I prefer spyderco, because their blades have better geometry, but I have and use both brands, and they're close, so just pick your poison.

Both have some great designs - BM 940, triage, mini grip, north fork, the old bone collectors, spyderco delica/endura/dragonfly, PM2, domino, slysz bowie, techno (i like this one) - you can go back and forth until the end of time and not decide a winner

Can anyone recommend me a good, inexpensive (sub $150 preferably) 10-15 inch blade length chopper with no back guard (and preferably a choil) so I can choke up on the knife?

I was looking at some authentic kukris but they're on the expensive side and I think I'd rather have a straight blade just to make sharpening easier. It seems like my best bet is either a schrade SCHF45 or a kershaw camp 10

>>748036
My experience of them is that they are better than nothing but if you are not VERY careful with them then the wire snaps and you are fucked, I've got a cheap no name folding saw I bought four years ago that is still going strong, take a folding saw.

>>748157
I did my knife training back in the 80's and batoning was only advised as a last ditch thing you did when your life was on the line and you had "absolutely no other choice", they taught this because breaking your blade in a survival situation could mean game over for you.

Mid 2000's and YouTube starts up, guys start making review video's of knives and begin to use batoning displays just as a way of showing how strong a knife is, noobs and autists see this and run wild with it believing that batoning is something you should do all the time while out, in all that time I've never had to baton anything thicker than two fingers in width, meanwhile fuckwits are trying to split trees with four inch blades and wondering why their knife falls apart faster than a politicians promise after the election is over.

Hey sc/out/s, I'm trying to find a knife that fits my criteria, hopefully you guys can help. I want a folding knife with a 3"-3.5" blade (not too picky on blade length), non-serrated, manual open (manual open is important to me), and black anodized blade.
I like the Kershaw Thistle aside from the silver blade, and I like the Kershaw Blur aside from the assisted opening.
Any suggestions? Thanks.

>>749842 here
Thoughts on this? http://www.amazon.com/Kershaw-CQC-5K-Modified-Point-Blade/dp/B00I0S1BFW

>>749842
You look at the Kershaw Cryo? Those look nice. Reminds me of a Leek but a bit less expensive.

>>749860
The Cryo is assisted open, I'm looking for manual. Thanks though.

>>749842
I'd check out some blades from Spyderco and CRKT. If you feel like spending a bit more try Benchmade. Kershaw is an okay choice if being American-made at a budget is important to you.

>>749842
it's hard to beat for that price
http://www.amazon.com/Spyderco-Tenacious-Folding-Knife-Handle/dp/B007CK1MNU

>>749887
Thanks! Do you know if it's manual or assisted open? Neither the amazon page nor the Spyderco website's product page specify.
>>749885
I'll look into those, thanks. I don't care if it's American-made, but relatively inexpensive would be nice, I'm a poorfag. Thanks

>>749896
the entire line (ambitious, tenacious, resilience, and persistence) are all manual

>>749900
Great, thanks. I take it you think the Tenacious would be a better choice than the Kershaw I linked in >>749855? Any reason why?

>>749904
I wasn't implying that is a bad choice, but from ones the ones I've owned, kershaw can be a hit or miss. The Blur, Shallot, and Cryo are very well regarded, however some others have that cheap/plsticky feel that you notice as soon as you pick it up.

(If you really wanted to, you could get the Cryo and take out the assist spring, just use it manually. The flipper is still usable.)

I have one of each of the line I referenced and I really like them. You're the only one who knows what you like in a knife, no one else can say "this is the best one". If you can give any other details you are looking for, it might help narrow things down more.

>>749910
Alright, thanks. I don't know much about knives or have experience with them, so I don't really have any preference beyond the criteria I've already said. I just want something to use as an EDC, take with on hikes and bike rides, etc.

>>749896
If you want low-price yet well built go to CRKT; Spyderco will cost you too much. You may also want to look into some of the more inexpensive knives from Buck and Cold Steel although I think CRKT. will be your best option.

>>749917
>well built
>crkt

Pick one.

>>749915
the main way of finding the good ones is buying a lot of lousy ones

I think you'll like the tenacious...

if you want to jump down the rabbit hole, visit http://edcforums.com/forums/knives.78/
but beware, every time I visit, my wallet magically gets lighter

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it is sharper now

>>749067
No. Looks like shit, don't buy it.

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Does anyone know anything about this beauty? A&R Zlatoust - Finka NKVD
Thanks on beforehand, lads!

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I own this one and am pretty happy and accustomed to it but the handle is quite short, luckily I have quite small arms but oter than that it's a great knife.
Anyone owns an Elk Ridge?

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Here's my Izula.

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>>750976

looks more like an Izula 2. Bretty gud either way - I have one in my backup kit. I prefer this though - similar size, but better handle. D2 steel.

>>747447
>>747581
>>747608

So it came today. Fucking thing is absolutely beautiful, and light too. Can't wait to try it out this weekend and see if it's a worthy upgrade to a mora.

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>>751231
Forgot pic

>>751232
purdy

>>750976
Makes me want that knockoff Chinese Izula made of D2 that anon posted.

>>751232
Looks nice. Those things are fairly affordable, right? Price? Steel?

>>751238
I got mine for £65, which is pretty standard.

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Any have any experience with kabars? What's your 2 cents?

>>752017
I have one. It's just a big knife. Which is fine, but unless you're in love with that iconic old school military look you can find something lighter and more useful for probably cheaper.

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Hey /out/

I'm coming over from /k/ with a bit of an oddity today: the Obake and Obake Skoshi by Lucas Burnley and CRKT. Where I live I can't have a big knife but I want to have a knife ( or knives ) that are capable of being EDC'd and useful for self-defense from other humans while still being outdoor capable.

The Obake knives ( Pic related, the Obake Skoshi being the smaller of the two ) fit all my size requirements ( 3.64 being barely legal in my region with 2.406 inches being legal in some nearby regions ). They are both full-tang and based off of Japanese utility knives. You can find more info on the knives at crkt.com or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJO-KogNEGA

Would you feel comfortable carrying one of these knives on your person if you knew you could only carry one knife? I'm hoping you guys can help me out. Feel free to shill knives you feel are better to me.

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>>752153
Personally I find para wrapped handles to be a bit of a style choice and not the most functional option, they're bad for hotspots if you're doing any extended outdoors work. Also whilst I have no intention of poking someone with one of my knives if push come to shove I'm not sure if I'd want to do it with a knife that lacked any sort of finger guard, although that blade does look very poke capable.

For a fixed edc I'd be looking at something more like pic related
>2.4oz
>3" blade, VG-1, Jap made
Or if you want it basically unbreakable you can get it in 3V.

Have you written folders out of the equation?

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>>752153
I carry that little SPEW around a lot of the time. Barely even notice it's there. Can't complain so far. I know it isn't ultra memesteal, but it gets the job done.

Those handles do kinda scare me provided you had to stab something with some force.

>>752184
>although that blade does look very poke capable.

I have those knives and that's about all I'd carry them for.

>>752184
The lack of a guard is a little bit scary, I'll agree. I sadly have ruled out folding blades because my hands are not in great shape and I'd like something I could just pull and use.
>>752186
The SPEW is also a beautiful blade I'm considering and one I may pick up in the future although I think the Obake and Obake Skoshi would be better suited to /out/ tasks than the SPEW. I do like the SPEW but it sort of competes for the same jobs as my multi-tool.
>>752188
Good feedback; if they are strictly self-defense knives I'll have to look elsewhere for my emergency EDC /out/ blade. The trick will be finding one under 2.5 inches like the Skoshi is.

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>>752191
What about some of the other crkt offerings?

>>752191
With the shape of the SPEW, I'm very hesitant to pry shit with it. Def not a strong point of those blades.

I always kinda like those Ruger CRKT blades. They look pretty tough for their size, but paracord handle. I think the main thing that sold me on the SPEW is the overall size of the knife for the length of the blade. Really compact. Not sure if it would be the best bushcraft knife but it works well when I need to cut something random.

Do you like any of the Minimalists? They have em in a bunch of different blade shapes.

>>752191
>Good feedback; if they are strictly self-defense knives I'll have to look elsewhere for my emergency EDC /out/ blade. The trick will be finding one under 2.5 inches like the Skoshi is.

I don't think they have to be strictly self defense. You could probably make it work, depending on what you need it for. As long as you don't expect something strange like it being a good knife for chopping things. I carry a spyderco delica from the 1990's and plenty of people here will tell you that the hole is dumb. It's partially serrated too:3

>>752196
Sorry, I must have worded my earlier post badly. I meant outside of the Obake family when I said I'd be looking elsewhere. CRKT is still the company I intend to buy from if possible given they've never done wrong by me. Your Civet is actually very beautiful.

>>752184
>>752186
>>752188
How do you feel about the RSK Mk 5/6, the Russ Kommer Bear Claws and the RMJ No Bother?

>>752186
I do admit I am starting to think about the SPEW more and more. Tis a shame I don't wear a belt but do you think I could possibly wear it on the strap of my coveralls with any degree of success?

>>749010
How often do they do sprints? I wanna get in on this

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>>752253
Here's the back of the SPEW's sheath, at least how I wear it. But you could mount that little clip deal a bunch of different ways to suit your needs. And that paracord came with it if you want to wear it around your neck but I just ended up kinda wrapping it around the sheath because I was bored.

>>752555
Regularly but rarely of the same thing.

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Post camping trip speed review of my new Ontario SP1

>sand off tacticool black powder coat because I'm not into that shit and re-finish with custom mustard etching
>spend half a day reprofiling dull-ass out of the box blade into a sharp 50/50 flat profile
>go back country camping for a week, temp goes below freezing at night so we chop down a dead medium sized tree and haul it through woods to campsite
>tree gets sawed into foot-long logs
>baton the shit out of a couple dozen logs into small kindling, thick hefty blade is great for splitting logs clean in two with a few good whacks
>handle is comfy so no problems with sore hands
>destroy three whoopin sticks from striking the (non-sharpened) back of the knife but such is life

Overall I don't regret dropping 50 bucks on this knife, sheath is good quality as well

>>752608
Cheap knife but somehow you still have more money than sense
>batoning

>>751005
>better
god what a faggot

>>748969
Not that anon but wtf is a sheddie

>>752643

machete

even though one of those isn't

>>752647
What slang is that? Aus?

>>752656

i have no idea, probably

>>752585
Is there a way to check what's current?

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why do some knives have those weird shapes?

also this is mine

>>752573
I think I could actually hang that sheath on my coveralls. The question now is "should I?"

Still thinking the RMJ No Bother looks decent but I'm concerned as to whether or not it would be a decent out-knife. RMJ himself seems to think so but I also think he wants sales. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHv9nLFM36M

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>>752748
Idk about the other knoife, but here's the SPEW sheath without that cord on it. Most plastic CRKT sheaths will have the multiple holes so you can mount it a bunch of different ways. I'll leave it up to you do decide if you can mount it on your coveralls.

>>752759
I think I can but I'm still not sure if I should. xD I'm tempted to, though.

>>749080
Scandi grinds are good for whittling wood.
Outdoor plebs will spend a lot of time using their "bushknife" doing that.

Really they're good enough for an 8 year olds first camping trip.

>>749080
Its cheap. 4chan is full of idiots who dont want to shell out more than ten bucks for a knife, so they defend and shill moras to death.

>>749067
Camillus is dead, fallen victim to chinese outsourcing. Dont buy chinese knives from american companies. If youre looking for china knives, ganzo, enlan, real steel, and sanrenmu are the only sound options.

>>752774
Some of those Ganzo knives look decent.

What about the Taiwan knives? I hear there is a good factory over there- the one that makes the Ontario folders and a bunch of other stuff. Anything from that factory is supposed to be the best for the money as far as Asian manufactured knives go.

>>752777
When there are such great options from american factories i dont really see the point in seeking a knife from taiwan. People praise them, ive never used one, they are probably fine. My spyderco is from japan, all my other knives are from the usa except one sanrenmu. Its the sebenza clone and id recommend it to anyone, cost me 12 bones on amazon.

>>752631

kek. Get real, kid. I have both, and the handle on the izula doesn't compare to the next gen.

>>752800
well, the taiwan factory is widely considered spyderco's best.

>>752805
Id fuck a taiwan girl if you catch my drift

>>752773
Its not 'don' t want' it's 'don't want and can barely afford to'

In my case that's for sure.

>>752800
The difference between $20 and $200 is why Taiwan factories exist.

>>752810
Are you shilling for and defending moras?

>>752811
But they still cost a lot you pop drinking fish fucker.

>>752816
The Spyderco Taiwanese knives? If you those cost a ton, you are strictly paying for the name and that giant hole in the blade. Even the Taiwanese Ontario RAT folders are only like $25. Anything Asian (Japan isn't Asia) over $50 is a straight ripoff.

>>752816
Does mora bribe people to defend their ten buckawoo knives? I wish

>>752824
I couldn't give less fucks if anons want taiwan knives, i have no experience with them as I said.

>>752816
>pop drinking fish fucker

I like it

>>752827

eh, moras are fine. They look like plastic handle kitchen knives, and I hardly have a reason to buy one, but for people who can't afford much more, they're a decent option.

It's just silly when some "enlightened" moron comes here thinking 98% of a knife's worth is the cost of materials, and if moras cost $10, any knife that costs more than materials+$5 is automatically a ripoff.

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>>752832
>>752830
>imblign you don't want it

>>752816
But what still costs a lot? I don't get it. Expensive Taiwan knives? Most of them are far cheaper than similar knives made in the US.

>>752844
Most of the taiwan knives are over 100 bucks.

>>752827

They don't have to. Moras are very popular with people who actually use their knives, and very unpopular with gearfags and knife "collectors" whose knives only get used by morons shilling them on Youtube.

>>752848
Morafags: the post

>>752847
in fact, only 6 spydies are less with no knives under $50

>>752861
what? MSRP maybe

>>752863
Spyderco quality levels are generally regarded as Taiwan-Colorado-Japan-China in that order, I think they have some Italian Lion steel stuff but not sure where that fits, generally Lion steel is well regarded though.

>>752920
I think LS makes the britbong slipjoint - it's pretty high end.

>>752848
>Moras are very popular with people who don't give two shits about their knives

FTFY
People who care about, and can afford it, use higher end knives because they're better than moras.

>>752924
Yeah that sounds about right being N690co

>>752948
that looks weird, where the serrations start to be the belly

>>752803
hilarious that youd actually resort to calling me a kid, because only children use that:

"yours is ok..., but mine is better"

there is no such thing as an objectively superior knife handle you petulant little fuck

>>752928
when it comes to knife capabilities? it being a rat tang is irrelevant to its purpose, which is cutting things you couldnt use an axe for

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>>752996

you're the one calling names

faggot. Remember?

>there is no such thing as an objectively superior knife handle

yes. Yes, there is. It just shows how little you actually know about knives.

I admit - the izula 2 is a great knife, has a good-feeling handle, but it still doesn't compare to a next gen.

Here's a photo with both of them. The next gen is a tad longer, rounder, and beefier, especially the front of the handle. It also has thumb scallops.

The one Izula posted has an aftermarket handle that is better than stock, but still not as good as the broomstick.

>>753003
it's also about the steel, handle, blade profile and ergonomics. Moras are good as they come, but many knives are simply better.

>>753148
i dont give a fuck about name calling you faggot holy shit LOL!

i said im amazed that youd choose that particular descriptor, because i essentially accused you of being a child, which you essentially responded with "no im not, you are!"

i had some more exceptionally fitting and abrasive adjectives, but those are some nice knives so i lost fervor

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My Baby

>>752656
It's dank-slang

>>753235
Is it new? That a nice knife but it's better suited to /k/ activities.

>>753248
Its quite new .. I got gifted this knife last christmas .. I was only one time in the nature than.

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>>752153
Do you feel the shape of these blades would be decent for /out/ use? Obviously not a primary blade but if you had to pick and use your back-up would one of these be a decent choice?

>>753235
more like gayby

>>753248
fuck off with this shit

>>752196
Can I ask why you recommended the Civet for anon? I looked it up and it seems nice ( might get one for me, the fact you can open-to-clean the sheath is a plus ) but in the video featuring the two civet models the designer seems to imply they are not meant for the outdoors.

>>753349
wtf is wrong with you? You seem to be mad as fuck with life, go treat yourself and stop spiting hate on the web.

>>753393
which one are you then? the faggot with the gerber pos? or the autist who wants to make sure everyone posts in the right fucking knife thread?
>omg he used bad words he's mad
this aint your personal hugbox you fuckin fairy

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>>753349
>>753395

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>>753395
>autist who wants to make sure everyone posts in the right fucking knife thread?
waw other than mad you're also dumb as fuck dude. Where did I said such thing? Go seek profissional help.

>getting this mad at people on the internet
kek

>>753404
you're retarded

>>749842
get a blur and crack it open to remove the torsion bar? That should turn it into a manual.

>>753428
this. it comes right out, not even attached once you get the knife apart. be careful though cuz it will pop apart once you get the final screw out. it opens up great after you get the bar out, you can still deploy it almost as fast.

t. i did this to my blur

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Hi guys, I'm knew to knife appreciation. I picked up a Spyderco Paramilitary 2 for novice EDC. Is there a functional purpose to putting a lanyard on it? It strikes me as more eye-candy than utility.

Also, what do you use your knives for? The most work my PM2 sees is opening the occasional cardboard box.

>>753455
Thank god you bought an overpriced chunk of steel with a giant hole in the blade. Should get through those cardboard boxes just fine.

>>753455
lanyards are mostly eye candy unless you want to actually put in your pocket instead of using the clip, you can pull it out via the lanyard
i mostly use my spyderco for food prep around camp and light cutting i.e. boxes, zipties and shit. if i wanna fuck around and do dumb shit with my pocket knife i use my zt, everything else is relegated to my 2 fixed blades

>>753458
Ok, cool. Now that I think about it, my PM2 has seen some food prep. It's amazing what a difference a sharp knife makes.

What kind of work do your fixed blades see that you won't use the folders for?

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>>753409

>>753467
building shelters/camp shit, light firewood prep, clearing brush, game prep (and anything else where i don't want a bunch of nasty shit gumming up the folders) hammering tent stakes, fighting beavers, taking bottle tokes

I really like my caly 3 for food and when i'm sewing/repairing my clothes. a small thin knife is just perfect for some things.

>>753473
Interesting. I'm new to /out/ activities, but that all sounds like a lot of fun. Thanks.

>>753344
No.

Looks more geared toward fighting/self-defence.

>>753344
no. get a fuckin plain edge drop point and stop trying to be a special snowflake.

however, if you just want one to have it fuckin buy it that's your business not ours

>>753455
you picked a decent knife. as the other guy said. used for pulling the knife out of the pocket, eye candy and also on smaller knives it can be used as a bit of an extension. i've got a lanyard on my dragonfly for that and it works good. but desu your pm2 doesn't really need one.

don't feel bad about spending the money. nothin wrong with having good tools. that thing will last you a long time.

>>753390
Well IMO they're too small for outdoors, so I agree but it seemed like anon wanted a small emergency fixed blade which I think they cover.

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>>753652
Thanks, anon. How do you like your dragonfly? I'm considering the H1 dragonfly as a smaller alternative to my PM2. The H1 blade comes to mind so that I can always have it on me while island hopping. Serrated blade since H1 is work-hardened.

>>753710
>two overpriced folders
Just admit you are a collector. Most people in these threads are. You don't have to pretend like you need a sturdy /out/ knife if you are going to sharpen it more than you cut anything with it.

That being said, a full serrated blade is going to have very limited use so it will be nice for your collection since it won't see any real-world abuse anyway.

Thoughts on related for outdoor use as a back-up to a main skinner blade/an edc?

>>29805369
>>29805392

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>>753729
Sorry, for some reason it didn't work so I'll just repost.

Prob worth mentioning you have to use the sheath as a handle if you want to use the tools built into the knife's handle.

Schrade Full Tang Fixed Blade Neck/Belt Knife ( SCHF60 ), AUS-8 High Carbon Stainless Steel Drop Point Blade, AUS-8 High Carbon Stainless Steel Handle with Thumb & Index Jimping, Metric & Standard Ruler, Standard Wrench Sizes 1/2, 7/16, 3/8, 5/16, 1/4, Oxygen Wrench, Size 14 & 15 Bicycle Spoke Wrench, Bottle Opener and Nylon Fiber Neck/Belt Sheath with Breakaway Neck Chain, Pocket Clip, and Grommet Holes and Slots.

Blade Length: 2.32 inch (5.89 cm)
Handle Length: 3.21 inch (8.15 cm)
Overall Length: 5.47 inch (13.89 cm)
Weight: 0.06 lb

>>753730
stay away from novelty junk

>>753730
What's up with the slot that goes down the middle of the blade? It's a tool for something I'm assuming?

Looks interesting, but one of those tools that you can't really use heavily for any of the tasks, but will get you out of a sticky situation. What sizes are those spoke wrenches? Bicycle or motorcycle?

>>753733
Bicycle, sizes 14 and 15. I also can't find what that middle-of-the-blade tool is supposed to be. Agreed that it does not seem like a great option as a main knife but it seems like it would get you out of a lot of problems which is why I'm interested.

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>>753735
Pic of sheath didn't post; doing so now.

>>753735
Idk, I wouldn't even want to use it for anything besides a last resort in whatever bag you carry while riding a bicycle. Even at home, I would take the time to find proper tools before using that thing on any projects.

Might as well get one of those Leatherman bracelets too.

>>753736
The idea of putting that thing around an important hex bolt kind of makes me cringe unless it is absolutely a life and death situation.

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How is the tops SXB?

>>753745
Tacticool.

>>753747
I know , but I irresponsible with money

>>753745

heavy

>>753749
honestly, it's more of a gadget than the tracker, though both hail from the same school of "ultimatest, survivalest knife".

Honestly, you'd be better off getting a kukri from HI (or tora if you can wait for it).

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>>753721
I'm new to knives so my experience is limited. Could you recommend an alternative to the H1 Dragonfly that would better suit my need for a small blade in climate with high humidity and salt?

>>753853
>>753853
The SPEW mentioned earlier in the thread is a pretty good all-purpose knife that fits everything but tactical needs. Just be sure to maintain it; and b4 you complain about maintaining it being a lot of work it will be good to learn how to care for your blade. If you mess up don't worry because the SPEW is a very affordable knife ( about $25 American )

If that don't work for you I'd check out some of the cheaper knives and/or "hunting/FISHING knives made by Cold Steel and other big-name companies.

>>751005
make/model?

Any good beater knives that are relatively cheap

newfag to /out/ shit and wanna have a knife I don't have to worry too much about beating the shit out of when (attempting) to gut, carve, and cut shit in the woods.

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>>753878
The SPEW is a handsome little knife, thank you for the recommendation.

As for care, will the knife need more than a Lansky sharpener and the occassional sheen of mineral oil?

>>753900
Becker bk11 or 14, 15 16 or 17

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My hunting knife ive had for about 6 years. Looking to get a bigger blade for sticking hogs now but finding something big enough is a push in New Zealand

>>753457
You don't know what you're talking about man. It's as thumb hole to open the blade. lel. but yeah, if I was to buy one, it would just be to use at work (I work retail, adv store)

there is no shame in having a knife, cheap or expensive, consciously for menial tasks. the philosophy behind carrying a knife is the same as any kit ever. it is better to have and not need than etc. as it stands, the ability to cut materials the way a knife can, is both prevalent and vacant from our biological capability

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>>753910
I think you could get away with sharpening it once a week to once a month. I'd also recommend using a dry cloth to wipe down the blade before I ever put it back in the sheath and then lightly wipe it with a cloth with oil once a week. If you like it also look at the Civet blades another anon posted earlier ( although those are not as /out/ friendly ) as their unique sheath system allows for very easy cleaning. If you have any questions just send a ticket to CRKT; when I have they have often times responded within an hour and tend to be friendly.

Cold Steel and Kershaw also make affordable knives that can compete. Another company starting to get a reputation for quality again is ( surprisingly ) Schrade who seems to be fixing a lot of their overseas manufacturing issues. The products Schrade makes now are still low-quality compared to the stuff that used to be manufactured under that name but are competing with the CRKT/high-end Morakniv pricepoint and levels of quality.

A bit unrelated: I always recommend CRKT because of their great service and the fact their designs are custom/practical designs ( they lack a design department, they tend to mass-produce high-end custom models with the knife-maker's blessings ). With the Cold Steel knives what you get tend to be the strongest knives/tools on the market ( they are built to be heavily abused as you will see on their YT channel ) and Morakniv/Opinel are /out/ favorites simply because of the high quality you get on their low-priced models, especially Opinel. I should have mentioned them earlier as they have some inox. blades that would do very well for meeting your requirements if you are okay with a folding knife.

Pic related; a little under $150.00 American from Opinel USA's website. Very much a blade for every EDC size/reason in a nice display case.

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>>754050
Interesting, thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. I hadn't heard much about the qualities of each manufacturer.

I have an Opinel no.8 in carbon steel, it's a loyal lunch bag companion. The set you showed me looks beautiful. If I purchased that set, I'd be looking for roles to fulfill each knife instead of the other way around.

>>754066
That isn't necessarily a bad way to go ( in terms of finding tasks suited to blades ) but it is always a good idea to check a company out before buying from them.

My favorite company thus-far is CRKT. Great customer service ( friendly, willing to try and help when realistically possible ( don't expect a miracle every time ) and great products for the price because they work with well-known knife makers ( many of which treat their designs like children ) to mass-produce their products to a compromise both parties can live with.

Cold Steel is just known for absurdly strong blades and their following of Mall Ninja. Their knives go through a series of abuse tests against other, similar knives on the market ( check their YouTube ) and this testing shows that Cold Steel makes some pretty strong knives.

If you have not heard of preparedmind101 his channel might be worth looking at. It isn't outstanding but he makes a lot of good points and one of his video series involves him and his friend Wil(l) discussing what a Morakniv is qualified to do. It is a very interesting watch but it is a great example of seeing what a company/their products are qualified to do and what happens when people expect too much from said product.

>>746910
How sharp do I axe?

>>754178
if it can't cut a 10" thick tree in one swing, it's not sharp enough

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Did some color on ti with a torch

>>754187
kek

>>753886

lt wright knives next gen - essentially a scaled-down version of their genesis knife, with a 3'' blade.

Going hiking on the at for a few days soon.
I got an old koster knives bushcraft layin around and kershaw outcast.
Which should I bring?

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>>754362

>>754397
>failing this hard

You must be proud of that meme. Too bad it's shit, just like you and your understanding of quality.

>>754406
no it is you who are shit

>>754377
no opinions?

>>755203
Koster and you knew it

>>755203
Kershaw and you knew it

>>755257
>>755255

>>755172
do explain...

I am shit because I own knives that are actually superior to over 90% of what gets posted in knife threads while having an open mind about other brands?

How did you figure that out, genius?
Obviously, you have never even been in the same room as a high quality knife.
LTWK is light years ahead of production brands like BM, Spyderco, esee, etc. Not to mention kershaw etc.

>>755413

Jesus Christ I despise you, and LTWK as a result of your inane shilling, more than language is capable of articulating.

I literally hope you get hit by a bus. Thanks for killing the thread you attention whoring fuck.

>>754362
welll if they had a horisontal carry sheath i may consider it, all these fisxed blades but no horizontal cary sheath, if anyone ha any suggestions for ideally $100 or less ( 150 max) fixed blade 3-3.75 inch blade, and horizontal carry sheath let me know `

>>755520

Bradford 3 knives are 3in, a little less than 7in OAL, default horizontal leather sheath with a kydex option. You can get them for around 118 on amazon, maybe lower on ebay. Higher and better steels on their website.

They're also very nice people to deal with, make great knives in a variety of steels, and have a good website as well.

Good luck however you decide to go.

>>755527
>>755527
they were one of the first i looked at , and decided to try shop around a bit, you have experience with them?

>>755528

Yeah, but I'm not sure what I have to say besides I've been happy with them. If you've got any questions I can try to answer.

>>755530
post some pics?

>>746913
try the smith tri-6, should be available most places, works fairly well and its good for learning

http://www.amazon.com/Smiths-TRI-6-Arkansas-TRI-HONE-Sharpening/dp/B00062BIT4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1462325110&sr=8-1&keywords=smiths+tri-6

>>755533

sure, It'll be tomorrow but that's no problem

>>755413
i don't have to explain shit, you do a great job letting everyone know how bad you suck. the fact that you can't see it makes you all the worse.

>>749842
go to your nearest service station and buy the first knife you see

btw don't believe spyderco makes any assisted opening knives (they do have some autos)

>>749080
its a great knife for light use. keep a stainless in the kitchen and carbon for the outdoors

>>753853
the Chinese knockoff

>>753900
manix 2 with g10 scales

>>754024
nice

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>>755543
>>755533

Here you go early. Trying to reduce the amt of stuff to do tomorrow. Roughly shows what you get. Top is amazon knife, bottom is a FFG from their site. Sorry about redactions but I'm too tired to see what matters and what doesn't. Let me know if you want anything else and I may be able to assist.

>>755602
if only i could hget a ffg for closer to 100 than 170

I need a knife for bear country.

>>755494
>>755545

cry more, and stay salty, inferior fucks.

>>755520
Well, I think esee sheaths, and some of TOPS knives will fit tek-lok (or whatever it is called).

Or you could find someone to make a sheath for you. AFAIK, LT (and probably others, I haven't checked) has the option of buying his knives without a sheath (you save about $30), so you can get your own.

That might be a bit of a problem, though, if you live outside the US.

Also >>755527 is just about right. Don't have any experience with Bradford myself, but apart from the few shills, and the obligatory "your knife sucks because I said so" guys, They seem solid.

>>755714
you'd be better off with a gun.
As for a knife - if by "bear country" you mean a general purpose, do anything kind of knife, than it depends on your budget, and what you really intend to do with it. You can get a big knife, like a kukri, or a small one - doesn't much matter if you run into a bear with it, buth the general consensus for outdoor knives is 4-5 inch blade, full flat grind or scandi. Perhaps elaborate on your needs, and we can suggest something.

>>755814
>>755824
>>755839
>>755842


cool knives, where'd you get them?

oh, that's right, you didn't. how fucking sad...

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Thoughts on a Fallkniven A1 as a general camp knife? I have an Esee 6 that I love but I'd like something stainless. This looks like the best stainless equivalent I can find.

Also, should I fork over for the pro?

>>755867
>you didn't
Wat?

But yeah, these aren't sc/out/s, these are knoife collectors.

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>>755527
Goat knife coming thru

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Here are some inexpensive yet highly functional classics.

>>755874
Very nice, in fact I just ordered one after seeing them here.

>>755871
Personally I'd buy an Ontario Blackbird over an A1, cutting geometry is significantly better on the Blackbird and the two steels are fairly comparable. Over both of them though I'd keep my eyes peeled on bladeforums, you'll pick up a handmade for 200 US which will smoke both of them, I'd be looking for something made of AEBL, CTS-BD1, 12c27.

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>>755867

>>755873

i meant he just reposted pictures of my knife collection. And yeah - it's a collection. Of the 230 knives that I have, I only really use 5, the rest are just there.

>>755874
pretty neat. How's the handle? I prefer them a little beefier for good grip.

>>755878
not bad. The sodbuster is a good, functional pattern.

>>755914
>230 knives

whoah, that's a typo. I meant 30.

>>755916
Heh, I must admit I was impressed when I read 230.

>>755917
Yeah, if I had that many knives, i'd be in a mental institution...

>>755918
Or be making youtube videos in a Japanese accent with a room dedicated to sharpening.

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>>755878

not bad. Have a crappy photo of mine.

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>>749805
>falls apart faster than a politicians promise after the election is over
I cri evrytiem.

>>750409
I owns an elk ridge. Courtesy of Anon in last year's Xmas bread. I enjoy it; it keeps an edge well (granted, I mainly use it for meat prep), and it's got a comfy choil.

>>752807
That's a boy.

>>755951
Cool

since were all posting our knives this is mine,
Pm2 and mini grip are my most carried,
mini barrage i dont carry enough, and am looking to get rid of
Rat2 is my beater knife
scherade stays in my house for opening packages
fixed blade is just 1/4th an inch too long for me to carry in my state so i use it for beating around on my property

Next on my list is a fixed blade horizontal carry, Under 4 inch blade, Ideally Under $100 , maye il try to buy used for once

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>>756000

>>756001
What is the top one? My dad always kept a case knife like that in his tackle box. He had the smaller version too.

>>756011
Mine is a Kinfolks, Great knife and i would carry it if only i could get a horizontal carry leather sheath, and if it were 1/4 in shorter,

>>756000
>1/4th an inch too long for me to carry in my state

lol freedum

>>756011
>>756015
possily a 330 though i havent dont much reserch into it

>>756016
my state allows 4 inches for carrying , its legal to own anything here,

>>756016
>>756018
though i can legally cary anything as long as i have my fishing, hunting, or trapping license on me, its not like i want anything much large than 4 inches anyways

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>>756022

Yeah I'm not sure why you'd want to lug around a large knife if it isn't needed.

>>756029
if i need something for chopping i bring my machete or axe, my knifes i carry i need for cutting canvas, rope, zip ties, plastic, sometimes wood , hosing etc
i think im going to try to ger rid of some of my folders and get a guardian 3

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>>755924
Very cool. I can't say I know much about that company but I really want their #47 Harvester after checking the website.

>>756022
>its not like i want anything much large than 4 inches anyways
Thats not what she said.

>>756018
>>756022

seems a little silly to break your balls over 1/4 inch.

I usually carry a 3'' blade, but if I wanted a full size it wouldn't make much difference wether it was 4 or 4.5''. Then again - Poland has great knife laws.

Since you are in the US, you should definetely look into sheath makers - I don't really know any, since I just use whatever sheath came with the knife, but I know of Hedgehog leatherworks, Yellow Hawk, and JRE being high quality (might be pricy though).

>>756036
i COULD carry it as long as i kept my wallett and fishing license on me , an easy thing to do , but i honestly would rather have a smaller blade almost, also since that knife sits with my "bug out bag"

>>755814
>>755867
What's the little one on the right?

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>>756032

I thought about getting the 47 viper. Ultimately, I picked up a first run coyote in od green micarta. Also, a different picture of that 65. Not the most artistic patina, but fuck it. Mustard brings out some nice colors in polished 1095.

I'm kind of curious about their "knifebrite" glow-in-the-dark handle covers - I've seen them on the harvesters/hayn helpers and bullnose.

>>756041

https://www.theknifeconnection.net/coyote/

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thoughts of the seax knife design? had a dream about it. seemed nice

>>756082

damn that's sexy

>>756094

seaxy

>>749617

Buck.

Just kidding. Brand preferences are usually just that. Preferences. A lot of brands are interested in maintaining a good reputation and will make good stuff. It just depends on your style and not getting a shit brand (like Gerber or S&W or something)

>>756115

the one exception to that would be HK, since they're basically a low-end benchmade.

the "big 3" brands (spyderco, BM, and ZT) have budget lines (HK for BM, Byrd for Spyderco, and Kershaw for ZT).

>>755914
Did you reprofile the candiru, or just strip the edge portion.

Also, if you don't mind, I'd love to see more pictures of the candiru.

>>755951
Looks nice man, well loved

>>756210

I reprofiled it (very roughly), so now it's a scandi-vex grind (more or less). Didn't get the full mirror polish i wanted (smartphone pics don't show all the scratches). One day i'll run it on my 2k/5k stone and strop, maybe get it more shiny.

Will take some more pictures tomorrow, when it's daylight (i'm running on GMT+1 here).

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How good are ka-bars really?
I've heard stories about them snapping when batoning with them but on the other hand the military has been using them for 80 something years

>>756274
they're great. batoning is a meme. only retarded fuckwad youtube autists baton all the time.

>>756266
Oh alright, right on. It looks better that way both for use and cosmetics.

And thanks for getting pics

>>756274
it's difficult to make products that can stand up to morons determined to use them improperly

>>756285
Literally what is the point of a 6"+ blade if not for stabbing humans, chopping, or batoning.

I can't think of anything that they would be better at than a shorter, handier blade. If you own a long bladed "survival knife" that can't handle batoning then you own a toy. There's literally no point in owning a 6" bladed knife that can't handle it. If your 6" knife is delegated solely to lightweight cutting tasks then you'd be much better served by a smaller, handier knife. My Esee 6 has held up perfectly and processed tons of wood for me, wailing on it as hard as I can to beat it through a knot in the wood. I've gotten halfway through a log before and noticed that the blade was being bent at an angle. Obviously I pushed on through and it split just fine. And I know that the knife can handle way more abuse than what I've put it through.

Just because your shitty knives can't handle batoning doesn't mean the practice itself is flawed. Obviously I would rather use a hatchet but I would also rather not have to carry a hatchet in addition to some other bladed article so I just stick to the Esee. Have fun with your ka-bar's and Gerbers, hopefully they don't shatter when you really put them to the test cutting open your mountain house meals.

>>756390
knives are not made for splitting logs

don't blame the product, blame the idiot who wants to play survivor man

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>>755962
..and the pic I should've attached...

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>>756032
mmmmm case

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>>756641
pls ignore shitty stuff i bought in 6th grade

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>>756283
a better picture, as requested.

Like I said, it was a very rough job (done by hand) - I'll probably polish it up a little on a 5k stone to make it a little smoother.

>>756665

pretty

>>756041
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJuDQWIodQQ

for comparison.

>>756780
Right, thank you

>>756390
>mountain house meals
>splitting wood
Captain beaver is that you??

>>756662
Thanks for pic.

That looks great as it is, it doesn't need to be smooth, as long as it's got a nice cutting edge.

>>756962

it's decent enough - haven't used it in a long while. My biggest complaint (now no longer valid) is the horrible nylon sheath the 1st generation Candirus came with. The newer ones come with a molded plastic, similar to what's on the Izula.
Some people like the sheath, though, because the flap folds over the handle and makes the knife completely invisible (and inconspicuous), but I don't like it.

Question for y'all: What are materials I can use to make an inexpensive, yet somewhat durable sheath? I'm not looking to win awards for style, just function.

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Can this be salvaged? It was my grandpa's.

>>757844
looks fine
what's the problem?

>>757927
Chunk of the tip is broken off.

>>757958
that should be pretty easy

clamp it in a vise, use a metal file to re-contour the broken part (grinding along the edge), then gently start re-creating the bevel....you could do it with a grinder, as long as you were careful

once it looks smoothed out, go to a coarse stone, then a finer stone to sharpen it

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anybody wanna buy me this? please?