What is the most /out/ country in the world?

>>733486
USA and its hat.

As for laws to camp, hunt, camp anywhere, etc.? USA and Canada. For the scenery? That's subjective. I personally like the lakes and flat land of Michigan and Minnesota. Others may prefer more mountainous views. Others like tropical areas.

>>733492
Doesn't it depend on the region? Places like Illinois are pretty cucked for /out/, same with places like Eastern Alberta.

>>733494
yeah but OP said "country," I don't have to pick just one state.

>>733486
Probably China

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>>733486
As a german, I'd probably say some place in northern scandinavia like sweden or norway. I've never been to finland, they don't have any mountainous areas that i like.

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>>733486
Russia i guess. it has pretty much every kind of environment except rain forests. and it has true wilderness, meaning its inaccessible. Canada, Kazakhstan, Mongolia, Brazil, US and other countries with large sparsely populated areas count

>>733518
Are there any mountain ranges with a decent height?

>>733544
No

>>733494
Colorado is pretty fucking intense in places. Just two days ago I was wading through 10ft of snow in 22°F weather, drove 30 minutes and I'm in the desert sweating my ass off climbing rocks.

>>733581
Although in the high desert area I did see 11 mule deer within a 5 minute span while hiking, and a group of at least three dozen or more dicking around in a field on the way out so I know where I'm going if the world ends.

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Nepal. Seriously it's like Disneyworld for backpackers and climbers. Colorado isn't a country but no surprise that it has the lowest obesity rate in the US.

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Mongolia, a huge amount of the population is still nomads. (about 40%)

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>>733518
If you want a country with almost all the enviroments, you should consider Mexico.

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>>733562
>What are the Caucasus
Fucktard

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>>733597

Canada

>>733608

Tiny piece of shit country. Try 'straya if you want a first world country.

>but abos

In reality there's so few of them you'll never see em if you stay away from city parks. Even then, just ignore them and move on.

>>733486
Alaska

DSMFers need not come.

>>733518
pretty much this +land is not as privately owned as in USA, so most of land is actually public land.

>>733514
I'd go to Norway m8, Sweden isn't safe these days

>>733518
The entirety of Mongolia is pretty much public land, which is awesome. You can pretty much point yourself in any direction and walk or ride a horse for miles and not see a fence.

>>733581
I thought I would love living in Colorado, but man the people there can be dicks. Wyoming, Montana, Utah, and Idaho felt so much better.

>>733735
>Australia
Lolno. It's 95% red dust, and the parts that aren't are mostly subdivisions. New Zealand is smaller but it has more diversity and is better for /out/ (and New Zealanders are better at /out/, Aussies are essentially Amerifats without the guns).

>>733760
Russia would seem to qualify but a lot of it is off limits to tourists and the whole country is at least mildly radioactive, besides being on the brink of sliding back into total authoritarianism. USA only counts because of Alaska. Scandinavia is rugged, but tiny (it would fit inside Ontario). The answer is Canada.

Canada and Russia are the only places where true wilderness remains.

>>733794
>What is western patagonia

Literally unknown land

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Nobody's said New Zealand? Seriously?
>True wilderness, by any standard
>Sparsely populated; they keep the chinkies contained in Auckland
>Fascinating endemic flora and fauna
>You can hunt anywhere you bloody want, even in national parks
>Culture very accepting of hunting and gun ownership
>I'm fuzzy on the wild camping laws but by and large you can camp most anywhere on public land
>The most extensive system of public access wilderness huts of any country on earth -- there's something like 900 scattered around the country

>ITT total fagots

ANTARCTICA MUTHERFUCKETS!

Mongolia is the most /out/ country since it has no laws restricting camping, there are almost no cities and it has a varying landscape. It's not called "the land with no fences" for nothing..

China however has the MOST varying landscape of any country in a coherent landmass. If you argue this, you know too little about China. The downside is that they are very restricted when it comes to freedom of movement and provinces like Tibet and Xinjiang can sometimes be hard to enter for international tourists.

>>734001
It ain't a country brada

The Netherlands ofcourse.

>>733493
>I personally like the lakes and flat land of Michigan and Minnesota.

Let me guess...you're from Utah or Montana, right?

>>733774
>the people there can be dicks
That's because everyone here is a recent immigrant from California

>>734085
Eindelik een hollander gevonden

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>>733486
Canada is the only right answer.

89% of our land mass is uninhabited crown land.

>>733486
russia

>>734193
>89% of our land mass
How much diversity is in that 89%? Not much.
As much as I love CA, nope.

>>733958
This. Plus lamb.

I was about to say Switzerland just to post, but then I thought better.

>>733626
those look awesome but the Caucasus is pretty damn unsafe at the moment

>>733597
Man that seems like such a better way to exist than working in an office and living in a house
Not easier, but better

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>>734592
agreed, just imagine being on a hike and walking in on some pissed off chechen militia

>>734595
Bunch of pussies

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>>733494
Yeah but boss you also have places like Colorado, California, and Washington, and WA is in my opinion hands down the most /out/ state, with maybe California tying it just because of Yosemite.

I mean shit, you've got literally every biome covered in the USA, and you have natural wonders like the Grand Canyon, the Rockies, the Cascades, etc.

pic related, pic I took this morning of rainier while hiking in WA.

>>733486
USA. Montana is my favorite tho. I love visiting Glacier, easily the most beautiful national park.

>>734600
what makes you say that? I know they are radical Islamist scum but from what I've seen Chechens are some crazy violent fuckers who aren't afraid of much

SPAIN
good weather
good beachs
good food
good party
good women
no bears
no war
no amirecunts

>>734857

Don't listen to the stormweenie

>>734166
en nog eentje hiero,

>>733493
>As for laws to camp, hunt, camp anywhere, etc.? USA

Are you joking right now?

You aren't allowed to properly camp anywhere in the contiguous US. But yeah, if you consider pitching a tent in a designated camping zone with 50 other "nature tourists" as I'd rather call them, then all right

>>733958
This

- NZ is huge (about as long as the US West Coast) and hardly anyone lives here.
- One third of the land is in public ownership. You can camp on almost all of it for free.
- Diverse environments. Everything from sub-tropical rainforest to deserts. Mountains up to 3700m high, including glaciers.
- Zero dangerous wildlife.
- Relaxed gun laws and huntable deer, tahr, goats, pigs, possums, rabbits etc.

>>733788
butthurt kiwicuck detected

Pavlova is Australian.

Russia.
VAST. Wilderness. VAST. Ural, Verkhoyansk, Kolyma, Altai, Stanovoy, Saian mts. Not to mentions woods, steppes, rivers, fields, swamps, deserts.

Walk for weeks, encounter 0 civilization or other humans, if you want to.

Hell you can probably cross the strait from Alaska and go in on foot because nobody gives a fuck anymore.

>a lot of Russia is off limits and mildly radioactive

Literally what. A lot of Russia is just unsettled swamps, woods and badlands. Ecology problems should be limited to Urals and European Russia, where most of the population and industry are located.

>>734595
pretty sure they dead now, fsb loves roasting this fuckers

>>736723
>Zero dangerous wildlife.
Well what's the fun in that?

>>736714
>National Forest
>Can camp literally anywhere within

Choose two

>>736813
Can I fell some smaller trees, forage and make a campfire too?

>>736714
I don't know what country you're from, but boy do they make 'em dumb there

>>734110
Why would anyone from those places say that?

>>734592
Russian Caucasus, yeah, but how about Georgia? Vast tracts of virgin deciduous forest, epic mountains, perfectly safe.
Anyway I don't think the troubled areas of the Caucasus are so dangerous. I'm planning on going to Abkhazia as soon as my Russian-speaking friend can get time off work. And some anon on /trv/ was telling me how he was hiking and saw some soldiers sitting at a post, who waved at him, then lit cigarettes and ignored him so he kept walking. Turned out he'd walked across the border into South Ossetia and those had been the frontier guards.

>>736723
>Deserts
Are you thinking of that region in the rainshadow of Ruapehu, or somewhere else?

>>733544
Mt Elbrus is almost 6000 meters high.

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Norway here, it's great. Allemannsretten (Every Man's Right) ensures everyone is allowed to trek and camp even on private property, so long as you leave little trace. We also have mountains, forests, lakes, fjords and everything a man could want.

>>736838
Then probably Russian wins this thread

smallest population/most land area
canada then, maybe?

>>733486
africa
>not a single building with electricity

>>736934
>everything a man could want.
But what if a man wants rainforest and tropical beaches?

>>736723
>wild pigs
>not dangerous
M8...

>>737014
No signs of civilization either

>>737014
Not a country

>>734128
Lived in Colorado before the whole weed shit and all the really shitty people moved there, the people were still pretty lame, nobody talks to anyone they don't know.

I had neighbors for years that I never even met because they just wouldn't acknowledge each other. Fucking weird seeing that when I grew up in a town where everyone for 3 blocks knows everyone.

Montana > Colorado

But Colorado has prime fucking climbing and snowboarding so that's a thing.

>>737337
This
If you can't make friends in Montana, there's not much hope for you

>>733486
Canada or Russia

>>737084
>Not a country

Irrelevant. Pick any country in Africa.

>>737337
We didn't want you here

>>737485
>we
Bet you grew up in Cali and went to CO to blow through your trust fund

>>733486
New Zealand

>>736817
If you don't cause any hazards then yes, you can probably do that. The trees might be questionable, but chamces are no one will see you

>>733735
>saying abos
Read a history book bogan scum

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>>737024
We have both. Maybe not tropical, but we have some nice beaches. Rainforest? Certainly!

>>737650
I no rite?
Imagine the majestic civilisation Aboriginals would have made for themselves if the evil white man hadn't come along...


>>733486
Most /out/ sovereign nation is probably Iceland, followed by Canada and Russia.

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>>733774
Were just getting tired of it all, that's all.

Don't take it personally.

>>733514
I'm at a military station up in Finnmark and its beautiful, but so empty and sort of ..melancholic[?]. It feels like being at the end of the world.

>>733958
I fell in love with NZ when I went there. I'm from Norway (yeah we have mountains), but theres nothing like NZ.

>>735131
>no americunts
You have Brits

>>736934
That picture is so edited it probably isn't recognisable. Anyways, Norway has a lot of pretty nature and scenery.

I wanna go to CO for two things.

climbing and DUDE WEED

>>733769

Undoubtedly the most retarded post on /out/, ever.

>>737904
why?

>>737965
because its /pol/, the post

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>>736723
>Relaxed gun laws

God tier /out/ countries:

-New Zealand
-Iceland
-Spain
-Scotland
-Mongolia
-Norway
-FUCKING ALASKA

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>>738012
>leaving out sweden

not cool man

>>738012
I assume you're trolling, but there's much more to the US than just Alaska

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>>738031

>>738053
You got me, that's what every square inch of the country looks like
Well played anon

>>737965
because it's not unsafe compared to most of the world, it's just gotten a bit worse
and that's only in big cities, not in the north whatsoever

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>>737986
but is it less than the truth be it pol or reddit? Obviously it's safer in Sweeden (big cities) than several african countries, but, does it make any more better?

Undoubtedly the most retarded post on /out/ might be yours

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>>733486
Y'all fuckin know it.

>>736832
yeah I'm assuming he means that land along the desert road. a gigantic chunk of which is off limits to the public since the army trains there anyway...

>>738002
our gun laws aren't amazing, but they're better than a lot of people give them credit for. as far as developed livable countries go (so all of africa is out—despite essentially no restrictions on guns in places like somalia) nz is probably in the top 6 along with the us, canada, finland, czech republic and switzerland.

small things we take for granted like being able to buy suppressors hassle free and hunt with them. this is something americans generally cannot do for example.

>>738367
Stay awesome, Kiwis. It seems to me the Aussies and Canada are trying too hard to imitate the UK when it comes to this kind of thing. Most of the shit the Brits think up just doesn't jive with life in more wild places.

>>738367
>hunting with a suppressor
What kind of a bitch move is that? Glad I live in a country that believes in fair chase

>>733486
DR. Congo.
They have a large rain forest with different species of animals. You can own guns since the government probably doesn't give a fuck. No electricity for Kilometers and more. The only thing is this country is in war.

>>738212
>Obviously it's safer in Sweeden (big cities) than several african countries

It's safer in Sweden than in all of America, most of Europe, and probably Australia too.

>>738948
Not true
Keep trying though, Eurofag

>>733597

Mongolia is like one giant /out/ themepark. Like legit disneyland for sc/out/s. You can do fucking everything even remotely /out/ related there, except maybe hunting.

>>738624
fumbling with earpro while hunting is a pain, and the alternative is to ruin your hearing. since we have taxpayer funded healthcare, the government encourages us to hunt with suppressors to save our hearing

>>738053
Yes, good point. Even Manhattan, one of the most densely populated urban areas on the planet, has a massive, beautiful park running through the center of it. Bodes well for the rest of the country.

>>738948
Can confirm. Fucking hate what Sweden is turning into politically, but my friend and i go there every summer for the outdoors. Never felt threatened or afraid in any way whenever we went in to towns for supplies. As long as you dont go to the muslim ghettos in malmö, you should be more than fine :-)

>true wilderness

Is this some epic new meme?

>>737853
>implying you have had anything to do with creating the 'majestic society' you were fucking born into.
>implying the value of a society is in how many buildings and what technology it is has.
fucking uneducated swine. technology comes from war and necessity and a bunch of other factors.

>>733486
Slovenia, like a half of the country is a national park, 60% of the whole country is covered by forests, one of the most biodiverse countries (at least in europe), also the Alps

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>>738980
The High Line is great too.

How is this even a question? Russia ofcourse.

>>738228
Looks like she's announcing a happy happening

>>736813
>>733493
>>As for laws to camp, hunt, camp anywhere, etc.? USA

USA are actually shitty when it comes to that, I looked at a map and national forests are like 5% or less of your land. Here in Norway you are allowed to camp and go everywhere, including other people's private property, as long as it's not actively used, like gardens and farm fields. So 96% of the land.

>>739434

I love the high line, but EVERY FUCKING TIME I GO god damn thing is filled with shitstains and their huge ass camera snapping photos of EVERYTHING. Climbing over fences so they can get some lame ass photo of a wall with a flower in front, or their shitty family lookingt miserable that dad wanted to be a "photographer" so he dropped 3k in equipment.

fucking jimmie rustlers

>>733587
K2?

>>736817

You're usually allowed to cut down smaller dead trees for firewood or whatever else for free, in National forests.

I would imagine most countries don't legally just let you lop down any old tree on public lands for free, lest logging companies spiral out of control just taking down the whole forest.

>>739562
Looks like Nanga Parbat (where Reinhold Messner's brother died).

>>733486
Greenland.
Survival skills are a necessity. The vikings couldn't colonise it for long, after all.

Otherwise, Iceland is out of the running because /out/ implies survival outside. And you can't survive your campsite randomly becoming a volcano or hot spring as you sleep. Or being run over by a crazy local in their cliff-climbing vehicle.

>>737481
> Egypt
Civilised enough to have a military
> South africa
Urbanised.
> Ivory Coast
Civil war.
> Sierra Leone
Tribal warfare.
> Somalia
Anarchy, only kept from being a terrorist hotbed by neighbouring countries rolling in with tanks
> Sudan/South Sudan
Tribal warfare.

90% of non-urban africa, /out/ would not survive in. They'd be shot, raped, or kidnapped by a local militia within hours.

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>>738624
Stupidest fucking thing I read thus far in 2016.

Glad I live in a country where we humanely end the prey we hunt. Fair chase my ass. If you decide to kill something, it better fucking die instantly.

>>739581
Clearly you need to learn about logging operations in the 21st century. If they don't own the land the make a bid on the timber sale. Stump marks are painted on the trees to hold them liable for harvesting trees they are not supposed to. Logging companies often own their own land as well, for which they hire foresters/forest ecologists to mark timber stands that have been trained in sustainability for that particular region.

>>734549
> mountains
> boreal forests
> prairie
> tundra
> badlands
> B.C. coast is basically rainforest
> the fucking Canadian shield
>a million goddamn lakes and rivers, plus connected to three oceans
> hunt, fish, and camp anywhere

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>>737853
>>738012
>>739869
This man has been living off the land in Iceland, waking up to the birds entering his yurt in the morning on the good days and enduring the cold wet storms ripping at him and his things on the bad days. The photos are taken in some undisclosed shrub forest in the vicinity of Reykjavik. He dislikes the city and says there's been a feudal system in place since the time of the vikings. "We used to have family villages here I want to restore. Villages working toward self sustainability and kinship with nature without money or debt:" He adds that the political system is faulty and entities have grown too big. "We can build everything we need from natural renewable resources" The newscast was shown some of the items he improvised for the off grid living and promised they wouldn't reveal his location.

>>738624
WTF? How does a suppressor apply to fair chase? Once you pull the trigger it makes no difference if it's suppressed or not.

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>>742609
Not a yurt, though.

>>738948
>It's safer in Sweden than in all of America
Sure, if "all of America" means Chicago, NYC, Washington D.C, LA and other crime-infested shithole cities.

Rural America is as safe as Sweden, sometimes safer, despite much laxer laws across the board - with emphasis on MUCH laxer gun laws.
>, most of Europe,
With former eastern bloc countries excempted, most other European nations are equally safe; certain violent urban areas not withstanding.
>and probably Australia too.
Maybe, but Aussies are irrelevant.

>>739022
> Never felt threatened or afraid in any way whenever we went in to towns for supplies.
Where do you stop for resupply when hiking in the US? Chicago? Detroit? If not, I can't grasp why you'd single out Sweden as exceptionally safe, when it in fact is no safer than rural, dindu-free America.

I worked in finland. Even i a city it can be relatively out.

>>738948
>live in Maine
>homicide rate on par with Sweden
>Concealed Carry at 18
>Constitutional Carry at 21
>decriminalized cannabis
>Vermont soaks up most of the Massholes

Git gud scrub

>>738966
You can hunt whatever you want, just don't tell anybody.

>>736817
Depends on the national forest. They have different rules regarding which trees you can take and "special forest products" permits for certain things (like mushrooms or salal).

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My vote goes to Canada.

>>734788
WAfag here, can confirm that Washington is goat for /out/
Cougar Mt, Rainier, Olympic, Sun Lakes, Cascades... All great, and all within range of the puget sound. Really beautiful land.

Too bad rent here is fucking insane if you live 45 in any direction of Seattle

Seriously fuck Seattle, they literally cuck the entire state.

>>743332
Sweden is one of the safest places on earth. The worst thing that could happen is some alcoholic hobo attacking some foreigner as he's on the mental level of some /pol/tard. I live in what inbred farmers would call some of the worst "ghettos" in Sweden, and the worst thing I've ever seen happen was when an alcoholic guy stumbled on a stair and fell over, right into the pizza he was holding. It was hilarious.

The moral of the story is to not trust American media. It's bullshit.

>>733486
Nobody has Chile on its list? Deserts and Rainforests, Mountains and the Sea? Sounds like top choice to me.

Has anyone of you been to the Faeröer Islands? Im heading there this summer

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Well, it's hard to determine what's out since scenery is subjective so what's left?

I guess services as water, trails, instructions, huts and firewood. Also important factors are the conditions and amount of nature reserves, national parks and wilderness areas. Not to mention safety. Also countries with Freedom to roam it's much easier to go out.

So I'd say Nordic countries and Norway being my personal number one.

Pic from Finland though.

>>733486
Kentucky or Tennessee

>>733492
>its hat
Kekked
First post best post

>>733514
Finland has lakes.

>>733544
Altai
>>733597
This is a strong contestant.

>>736934
What if a man wants a beer?

>>737622
If by /out/ you mean save space and recreational park, yes

>>738957
It's literally the truth.

>>745143
He's shitposting or an idiot. Leave him be.

>>734110
>>736828
Montanabro here, anywhere besides the Rocky Mountains is shit tier

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>>738105
Brazil got some really nice spots, especially for coast lovers.

Another plus side is that the chance to get mugged in /out/ drops significantly.

>>746181
>anywhere besides the Rocky Mountains is shit tier
Southern Albertan here, can confirm.