Trash Tools Thread

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Have you ever seen anything more disgusting than this?

http://www.amazon.ca/Apocalypse-Survival-Sardine-Killer-Company/dp/B018ROF7G2/ref=sr_1_16?ie=UTF8&qid=1455894798&sr=8-16&keywords=zombie+survival#productDetails

lmao this one doesn't even say whats in it, or is it just a decoration. They put it in the sports and outdoors section so I think its actually a real product

>>691838
It has a description.

Kit includes; compass, whistle, matches, first aid instructions, razor blade, pencil, non-aspirin pain reliever, fire starter cube, adhesive bandage, energy nugget, wire clip, reflective signal surface, fish hook, fishing line & spool, duct tape, note paper, sugar, salt, gum, reclosable bag, antibiotic ointment, tea, safety pin, alcohol prep pad

>energy nugget

>>691833
>Fires arrows
laughingobama.jpg

>>691840
It's a tootsie roll. I'm not even kidding.

>>691833
>trash tools
yet you feel the need to share, you're as much as part of the problem as the ones making that shit.

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>>691833

>>691847
lol, hes obviously a shill. why do you think he chose the aesthetic photo and not the amazon stock photo? probably helping his wifes boyfriend get on his feet

>>691833
The problem is that it costs 150$, but that's TOPS and American companies in general

>>691833
Would this work for minor circumcisions? I'm thinking that bit in the middle that is teardrop shaped.

All aboard this train

Frequently Bought Together

Tops ATAX Hand Axe.
+
LifeStraw Personal Water Filter

Total price: $166.99
Add both to Cart
Add both to List
Buy the selected items together

This item:Tops ATAX Hand Axe. $149.00
LifeStraw Personal Water Filter $17.99

>>691835
The concept itself has some potential.
If that thing was designed and manufactured properly, it could be useful.

>>691851
Maybe his wife boyfriend's son made him do it or would beat the shit out of him

>>691865
Is he 9 and from Carolina?

>>691863
I'm not sure there is a way to do it properly. If you hardened everything to the point where it was actually useful, you'd never be able to snap it off the panel. I'm sure there's a process that could harden just the edges and leave the sprues alone, but it would make the thing too expensive for anyone to buy.

Fitbit Charge HR Wireless Activity Wristband, Black, Large https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N2BW2PK/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_rM0XwbMJBQWSA

Don't see a point. No one needed them before, no one needs them now.

>>691880
case hardening is bretty cheap + simple

>>691881
not really a tactical/survival item tho, familia

>>691880
The parts could be treated separately and then be glued together, but year, it would be too expensive.

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>>691880
Actually, perforated hardened steel metal is rather brittle. You'd just need to tap it with something at most. It can also be thinned out at the break points (like the one in >>691835 has).

However, the readyman stuff is all rather flimsy and doesn't hold up well with repeated use. This is because it is actually a bit too thin. There are better products.

http://www.amazon.com/U-S-G-I-Compartment-Mess-Tray/dp/B00C1FPE08/ref=sr_1_193?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1420266763&sr=1-193&keywords=mess+kit

>>691997
dose fuckin reviews

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I met Tim Leatherman and I didnt have the balls to tell him how trashy this is,

>>691835
My daughter gave me two for Christmas.
Why two? Because she knows I don't carry anything I have not tested.
Saw works, fine teeth cut hardwood and green bone just fine, large teeth only work on cane and very soft wood.
Awl and needles are good enough for a quick repair in cloth or leather.
Fish hooks actually caught fish, a nice three pound trout.
Frog spear took some fiddling to get fixed to a shaft but managed to take a frog.
The arrow heads are arrow heads. Fit the same as any other presses metal arrow head.
The snare sliders did not work at first, Ravens like shiny things. A bit of mud fixed that and two rabbits found their way into the pot.

It is not something that I would have purchased myself, I'm happy with it anyway.

>>691880
hard steel snaps off easier than soft retard

>>692005

Why is it trashy? Just curious, not arguing.

>>692005
>how trashy
It's the best Leatherman you can have in UK.

>>691850
What? What the fuck are those notches on the spine even marketed as?

>>692200

"rip-saw teeth"

>>691997
10/10

>>692005
i dunno, seems pretty cool to me

>>692005
I've heard these things are terrible to use. Though, people do exaggerate about that kind of shit, don't they?

>>692199
What do you mean

>>692040
No, not really. Hardening increases the strength. It's more brittle at the yield point, yes, but that yield point is much higher.

>>692255
They're not allowed to carry knives in UK.

>>692286
that is why it's weakened, it's only a flimsy little neck holding the stuff together, but i could snap the entire thing in half if it was very hard steel.
you could even break a sword with human force if you apply it the "wrong way" and they have a tough temper.

>>691894
Uh, this is the outdoors board, not the tacticool board. You can go jogging outdoors, which is what a lot of people use the Fitbit for. However, just having a lot of shitty knives and guns on your wall to look at is what /k/ is for.

>>692496
This desu senpai

>>692571
Lol i got that one. its all so basic

>>692571
>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B81X2AU/?tag=047-20

lol. my ex bought that for me. i read like 2 pages and shelved it.

>>692309
are you quite sure? I was under the impression that common knives were not prohibited

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>>693042
> $149

>>693051
that book. not the shit "multi" tool

>>692570
Pretty much everything made of paracord is trash. There must be millions of bracelets still tied up neatly because there's no point in using them.

>no one's posted any Cold Steel yet

What the hell?

Can't believe no one's posted one of those "rambo knives" with plastic handles yet...

>>692024
that was informative. thankyou.

>>691833
Does anyone remember that meme spear head from awhile back?

I can't remember the name, I just remember that it had a lot of cheesy features including a smokable pipe and 420 steel

>>692496
well, being a crybaby faggot is what /lgbt/ is for, so why arent you there?

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>>693347

it's amazing

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>>693376

ladies will want to hang out with you too when they see it

>>692252

Maybe but the point is they're gay as fuck and gimmicky as fuck and gay also

Did I mention how gay they are?

>>693377

Oh SHIT I thought it was much smaller.

Jesus Christ.

>>692200
I'm pretty sure those are scope mounts.

>>693376
fucking pipe, I love it.
Huge too, over 13"

>>693459

lol

>>693366
All I said was that jogging is an /out/ activity. What the fuck is your problem?

>>693727
you're off topic and being a whiny bitch about it. anon is right.

>>693732
Samefag much?

But here's the thing:
>thread about crappy outdoors stuff
>somebody says something about fitbit
>someone says fitbit isn't tacticool, and therefore doesn't fit the discussion
>I say this is /out/ not /k/
>HURR DURR WHINY BITCH LOLOLOL IMMA SAMEFAG THE SHIT OUT OF THIS DISCUSSION

>>693208
those things were last sold 20 years ago when i was a child.

>>693754
>I say this is /out/ not /k/
/out/ L I T E R A L L Y exists because of /k/ Innawoods threads. If you've seen pictures of /k/ meetups, you'll understand why /fit/ has nothing to do with /k/.

>>693781
> i want a fitbit for my wenier
> mfw no data to download

>>693049
Locking knives, which all leatherman models have, are banned though.

>>693781
And yet, this is not /k/, it's /out/. There are threads about companion planting. The sticky says shit about gardening, urbexing etc. Also, it's widely acknowledged that /an/ had a lot to do with the origin of this board. So, it sounds like there's as much overlap between /out/ and /fit/ as there is between this board and /k/, /an/, or /diy/.

>>693459
I giggled.

http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Killer-Skullsplitter-Throwing-Axe/dp/B00EIJQRSI/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1456284495&sr=8-11&keywords=zombie+knife

>>693376
>>693377
If it wasn't that hideous zombie killer green/yellow color, I might want one.

>>692199
Yeah its not. Leatherman Juice ftw.

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"Survival necklace"

>>692309
Please stop spreading misinformation.

3'' & no lock = completely legal
3"+ & lock = legal with justification
balisong/automatic knives = illegal

>>693848
Apart from the Juice!

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>>695740
>Talked my Mom into buying three for herself, wasn't a hard sell. Very fun to throw.

What the fuck Sebastian.

>>696380
>not arming your entire family for the zombie apocalypse

>>696274

ehh if it works for him, ok then

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>>696395

YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH

>>691833
lol what? Is that supposed to replace an axe..

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>>696395
>>696398
I actually made one for a mentor of mine (gift for his helicopter pilot brother). God that quarter rounder is like impossible to sharpen.

>>697042
>>696398
>>696395
Or you could bring your SAK and a hatchet and have about a million times more effective tools.

>>696400
Not OP, but there are variations of this type of tool but from what I have seen the answer is yes. The idea is you lash it to a stick when you need an axe. It is a sub par tool in every other regard besides chopping veggies and it doesn't make the most ideal axe.

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>>697047
I actually completely agree with you, I didn't know about WSKs/Trackers until I got the request to make that knife, and I thought they were stupid as hell when I learned about them, but it was what that guy's brother wanted. (crossboarder visiting /out/ for the first time). Except I would replace the SAK with a Leatherman, but that's just me.

>>692005
I honestly would think it's a pretty nice, if gimmicky piece of kit but holy shit at $150 you can get a Charge TTi

>>696276
What about sub 3" with a lock?

>>696274
I'm pretty sure this is not actually a thing.
I hope it's not. If it is, please don't tell me, and I'll keep living my happy life thinking this is not a thing.

>>697106
Looks pretty similar to a call necklace. Expect loaded up with stupid stuff. A call necklace is for all sorts of hunting calls

>>696395
>>696398
>>697042
>>697062

Everyone bashes on these, but I have actually handled an original one (made by Beck himself in the 80s in PA or NJ) and I can tell you that it was actually pretty good. The handle wasn't all weird and fucky like the TOPS one, and the place where the blade grind changes is nowhere near as pronounced on the TOPS one. The original is also a whole lot lighter, and is like 3/16 thick instead of 1/4. Imagine the TOPS as a caricature of the original knife. I don;t have any pics but I could get some from the guy who owns it if /out/ wants.

>>696398
Is that company a joke? It's not even like they market to preppers, it's like they market to the extreme stereotype of preppers

>>693795
10/10 did heartily laugh

>>697079
illegal, britbongs can't have locking blades
my solution to this if i was in britain would be o ducktape the blade shut and carry it that way.
basically it makes the knife unsuable for muggings and self defense but if you have need for it in a survival situation you got a knife and you got duck tape.

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>>691833

>>697505
can you even read?

yes britbongs can have locking/fixed blades as long as they have a legit reason to be carrying one. obviously carrying meme tier blades like the tb tracker to 'cut up your sanries for lunch' isn't a legit reason

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>>697510
yeah but the legit reason is up to the policemen to determine, also i personally think that having a knife just in case is legit reason. i know the laws involved i have looked them up in the past.

i wonder if pic related would be viewed as a danger to public safety... i mean i tried to force open it it didn't but this has no mention in the law.

>>691833
are people supposed to punch trough wood with that?

youd think it would be more usefull in a brawl

>>697515
no it's a tactical ulu

>>691835
On the one hand I'd like to call it a gimmick.

On the other hand given that in survival any random object can have use, such a thing would probably be a godsend to a stranded person.

>>697535
watched some reviews but never seen anyone actually catching any food with it.

>>697815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4DNRn-sK-c

>>697513


no it's not, there are no laws, there is legislation- which is VERY different (read up)

what cops will try to establish is intent, which is why they question in a very specific way- you get coerced into admitting you're carrying a weapon, or agreeing with statements made by the fuzz to the same end.

weapon=intent to cause harm/menace=getting nicked.

I've had this twice with North Wales police, even once with the armed response- where a one of them actually managed to cut themselves with my knife. every time I've had my knife returned to me and been let to go about my business ( after my knife had been cleaned and given back to me by a copper laughing at his bleeding colleague)

>>693042

What's what you get for having a girlfriend who likes anime

Also

>muh positive reviews

Is Archwood a trash brand?

>>693425
>gay as fuck and gimmicky as fuck and gay also
>Did I mention how gay they are?
>gay
>gay
>gay
Found the closet queer.

>>693425
Got something on your mind there, buddy?

>>698011
>legislation
what is the difference exactly? google failed me on this.

>>693376
>breaks screw driver
>stares

>>698653
>Starves*

>>691835
Yeah, this isn't actually "disgusting". It wouldn't be my first choice, but I'd definitely be happy to see one in a emergency survival kit, especially over just a couple of low weight fishooks.

>>691862
What's your issue with lifestraw? I'm with you on the ATAX, but lifestraw's a decent bit of kit.

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>>698668
A new piece of water filtration kit came out recently, want to call it the sawyer mini? or micro? looked to be pump operated and good for 50 times the water that the lifestraw was and more effective at that. Moving parts though.

>>698792
Yeah, "better products" don't make another product "trash".

>>698817
hahaha

test 1

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I have an aversion to anything with a compass in the handle.
Knives, tomahawks, walking sticks, there is even a bow with an inbuilt compass.
They are usually cheep and small. Water filled and fragile.
I will never go anywhere with out a compass with a one and a half inch card, oil filled with compensating bellows, micro etched in mills and prismatic.

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>>693377
>mfw it's real
i thought that was a meme, holy shit

>>693848
Complete horse shit, not to mention that not all Leathermans are locking blade, even if it were true.

I carry a full size fucking Ka-bar to work because I can justify having it if ever I'm asked, which I never have been, cos I'm not a pleb.

If I carried it around with me when I went down the pub then I would expect to be fucked for it, which I would never do, cos common sense.

Same as we can own shotguns, and most rifles, providing we have a reason to own them and the correct license to do so. Again, this is common sense, and we realise we don't generally need a fucking AK47 or M16 to hunt with.

>>696276
This x100

>>699951
dunno dude you might be enjoying your justifications but for me to have a decent knife on me is "just in case i need it".

and you are not allowed so which is awfully sad.

>>691833
What the fuck is that? A knuckle duster for punching trees?

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> it will ever be release
>already 5 year old specs

>>692200
>>692204
If they're anything like the spine saw on the tom brown tracker, they work surprisingly well. Not a well as an actual bow saw but they do work.

>>693776
I actually like them, not in the quality sense they're horrible but i have sentiment and nostalgia as that was one of them was my first "/out/" knife

>>693110

Cold steel is durable, affordable, and varied.

My machete, edc pocket knife, and my throwing knives are all cold steel.

None of them have failed after heavy use.

>>700536
well they are actually made in quality version for shittons of money.
>>693776
come to think about it 20 years ago i was not a child anymore by a long shot. fuck.

>>700093
>What the fuck is that? A knuckle duster for punching trees?
Minecraft

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>>691833
Any multitool is completely useless for backpacking unless you're climbing, skiing, or snowshoeing.

>>701853

If you think it's worthless unless it's just for that stuff. You're clearly a faggot who doesn't get out often....or you're just a car camper.

>>697506
Made in France? WTF? Also, no BIC logo...

>>701854
>>701853
>backpacking
Wrong on both counts.

>>701853
>backpacking

That is one of the situations in which its most useful, you have to carry everything so you cannot lug around proper tools. Also having a screwdriver, bottle and can opener at all times makes you pretty popular if you are backpacking.

>>699663
>taticrap
>black blades
This is weebshit tier of shit but for preppers and survivortards

>>691850
After you stop laughing at the tacticool saw back, you notice the tip profile is fucking retarded.

>>701853
Pliers and screwdriver/allen key heads are the only useful things I can see desu, If you needed a saw you'd have a separate good one, and you would always have a knife.

Cycling multitools are fucking invaluable though due to all the allen keys you need.

>>691833
That actually looks pretty neat. If I saw it in a store or something I might buy it just for the novelty

>>704147
Meant the credit card thing with fishhooks and shit in it

>>691991
>implying ziplocks are going to keep the blade steady
>on a smooth handle to boot

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>>704172
they obviously won't
this is more likely to work but i don't think it's worth the price. it can do less than a proper axe probably less than a tomahawk and costs an arm and a leg.

>>693377

they forgot to add shovel as a function

>>704201
That is either a 90 degree angle or it's just poorly made, neither of which are good considering they cost like 400$+

>>707061
i don't get it
what's a 90 degree angle?

Anything with Tactical, Survival, Prepper's, Zombie/Apocalypse, etc. in the name is usually consumer grade trash. No different than electronic companies realizing the product they've been designing is complete trash so they put "Gaming" in the name or "for gaming" on the box and it sells millions.

>>707084
Same for food, like "Organic", "All Natural " and "Farm Fresh"/Free Range".

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>>707237

>can't be used as a tool unless you're a feudal age Asian peasant planting rice
>can't be used as a weapon because blade is so curved that you can't stab with it

>>707124
except organic and free range have very practical meaning and are required to be on the label
>>707327
>doesn't know how karambit is used
>thinks curved blades can't stab
>thinks karambit is especially curved amongst historical knives
>thinks modern made tools have manslaughter fine tuning in their design priorities

>>707772
"organic" - farm or company pays for an audit of their practices. Different companies have different criteria.

"USDA organic" - Same as above except USDA carries out the audit

"Free Range" - The animals have a door in their enclosure leading to the outside. There is no requirement for how large the outdoor space is, and there is no requirement that the animals actually go outside or how much time they spend there.

>>693376
>>693377
I fucking lost it at fork. Bloody hell what were they thinking.

>>698653
>>698663
Funnier the first time

>breaks screwdriver
>stares at stripped screw
>stares at 420 blaze it knife
>tfw insurmountable buyer remorse

>>696395

They actually look pretty good at killing smaller shit

Good for slicing and stabbing

It's just that most people don't kill shit with their knives.

I hunt pigs with mine, but this one isn't long enough. 10" blade or more is what I see as needed.

>>708319
>sawback
>good for stabbing
found the retard

>most people don't kill shit with their knives.
wtf is this dude serious?

>i hunt pigs with mine
yeah...

>10" blade or more is what I see as needed.
then why the fuck you would comment on a knife that is utter shit to hunt pigs with as looking good?

>>708349

Looks fine to me. Sawback isn't going to be a problem against flesh. Stab, and work your way up to make a larger wound, or just slice their throat to bleed them out. This is in a trap.

Yes, most people don't kill critters with their knives. I trap animals weekly and finish them off with knives, as it's cheaper than a .22LR round.

It looks good for finishing off critters in a trap, like foxes or other feral animals. Pigs too, as you don't need much penetration there.

Not for actual hunting, though, where you need lots of penetration to reach the heart from behind the shoulder.

And yes, I'm very serious. Some of us actually do live in da woods and live on the land. I'm in outback Oz.

>>708360
okay then buy one of these abominations test it and give us the review.
i'm gonna get some popcorn.

that is a shit tool it's pure undiluted crap. too small to actually do chopping has a retarded saw on the spine it's too thick for it's length but at least pretty weak at the neck heat treat is probably fucked up and prone to splits in line with the saw etches. is what i see.

>>708367

If I needed another knife, sure. Don't they make a bigger one? I'd rather that one.

My point is that isn't not going to be bad at slicing things; the sawback can be handy for ropes and synthetic binds (how many times have you found something your basic blade needs plenty of time to saw through? I've been there).

Sure, it might look odd, but I can't say it'd be bad at what a knife does for something that length.

>>708371
that saw will not do good for ropes and binds
serrated edges are best for that but honestly a sharp blade will have no issues.

when i have to cut plastic i like the serrations but for everything else plain edge.

>>699951
yeah nobody needs a 60yr old automatic to hunt. doesnt mean there isnt anything that would prevent either from being used succesfully though since you dont have to use automatic fire or 30rd mags. That supposed need for restrictiom is based solely on fear and ignorance

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B018XJYA5A/?tag=047-20&ascsubtag=v3_3_3_g_134698_0_

>>708360
If you're killing animals with a knife because you can't afford to spend 7 cents to kill them with a .22, maybe you shouldn't be killing them

>>707790
Not him but here on Brland organic farmers need to prove to the govermint what they are doing and they get to sell the product as organic. There was some dudes posing as hippies on a hip and modern city here (full of vegans and potheads) and selling fake organic goods on a large vegan/organic weekly fair. Now consciouness is very high. The government stamp covers everything from normal organics to full blown retard crystal energized tomatoes though so they aren't very specific but anything is better than commercial crops using illegal paraguayan smuggled pesticides 3 times a week.

>>698421
legislation needs the consent of the governed to be enforced, law doest.

basically you can't argue with a law, you're breaking it or youre not it's black and white.

legislation is very grey, and needs for specific conditions to be met by both parties. in nearly every case encountered in my experience when it comes to legislation it's been down to the offender landing themselves in the shit by responding poorly to questioning so that their testimony is effective evidence again them. the police here in the UK question in a very specific way during interviews (they're trained to) to further this.

>>709140
tricking hippies and getting paid is too good to pass up

>>709212
that's sounds very stupid.
here there is no difference in execution of government decrees and laws.
the only difference is how hard it is to change them.

>>709242
The guy made a lot of dosh. Mainly because one time a week the fair was in the middle of the local federal university (femifats, veganshits and pothead central). I bought from him once but he just coudn't shut up about how he studied agronomy and the government spyed on him and quatum phisics (just bullshit, including agronomy) and I realized he talked too much just to make a decent "stupid, paranoid hippie" cover and never went there again. But some weeks later a TV crew taped him buying normal vegetables at the distribution center (normal here = pesticides up the ass because no fiscalizationm the prime example of that is Strawberries that get sprayed 3 times a week. Yeah 3 fucking times for months) and he appeared on national TV and the vegans tried lynching him kek

>>709078
or he can use what he has, which is free and apparently effective for his method. Its not my cup of tea but it really wasnt worth your response

>>709078
He's bleeding pigs you dumb fuck you don't do everything with a gun.

>>692571
>>692577
>>693042
on that note are there any good pocket survival books? it might be kinda dumb but i think it would be cool/nice to be able to carry around something like that just in case i need help while /out/

>>696121
wow I'm surprised you didn't get scalped for saying that

>>710196
it was too obvious bait

>>710193
SAS survival handbook, pocket edition

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>>693376
>>693377
tobacco pipe

>>710211
I guess I fell for it to some extent then

>>710289
ah thanks, I appreciate it anon

>>707076
quarter of full angle

>>711869
no
what do you think is a 90 degrees angle on that particular item that shouldn't be?

>>693308
+1

>>697494

Yeah sort of.

Their quality is ok and some specific designs are useable.

It was Italian before, now run by amerikeks. Something shady went on and they just spout out retarded meme knives.

And it's not like they're cheap or anything, because they're expensive as fuck.

I have a Steel Eagle and it is the most uncomfortable knife I own.

>>692024
Awesome.

>>700549
>the cheaper cold steel sells a product, the more high-quality it is

Their machetes are seriously fucking GOAT

>>693376
What the is that things name?

I still don't see how its supposed to be a pipe