Big Knives

>>622687
No. Those knives were designed for tropical climates where the vegetation is thick, soft and lush, easily slashed and chopped with big knives. Good luck using those on oak, maple and birch.

>>622687
>any reason
Sure. Got a small cock? Packing around a big knife will make you feel better.

>>622692
I am getting the impression that they are sort of a do-everything knife. Not good at doing one specific thing, but can do alot of tasks.

>>622707
Id you are wanting a knife to process wood fet something beefy like a kabar bk2. Its heavy as fuck so it can chop like a hatchet. If you want to batton you will never break it. It isnt great for finer tasks like carving and feather sticking but it doesnt sound like that is your interests.
Me I carry an estwing hatchet and an Opinel no. 8. Never needed more.

>>622687
you catch junkies or meth heads stealing from you, you can hack em up real good with one of those

>>622687
Knives like that serve no purpose other than to injure people. Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

>>622687
batoning
cutting small branches/trees about the size of your wrist
bulk clearing of light vegetation

sharpen the bit towards the handle to a finer angle than the end so that you can use it for finer detail stuff like feather sticks

>>622687
yes. you can use something like a condor kukri as a one tool option. even though the iconic machete is the super thin, jungle swinging knife, plenty of companies sell super beefy ones you can go to town with.

Not that is my personnel recommendation but I have seen them field tested and doing work.

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>>622724
Here get your (you)

>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724

It's a machete you retarded liberal faggot

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

>>622692
So would it make sense to trade in the hatchet and big knife for a 24 inch axe? Seems like a good "compromise" axe, rather than a 14 inch hatchet.

>>622700
>using baseless shaming language invented by women.

Carrying useless stuff like machetes is just harmeless LARPing. If you think about it the reason most people don't LARP is because they were either bullied into accepting reality or they anticipated being bullied into accepting reality.

So the case could be made that the guy that goes ahead and LARPs anyway is the one with the big dick.

>>622700
>>622855
FYI I fully accept that there are people with knowledge and experience that would not LARP for good reasons.
What I am positing is that this is a minority of people and that most pwople would do it to some degree.

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

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>>622724
>why they're legal to own is beyond me

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>>622724
it´s a tool like you, brainwashed idiot

<--this is to injure people

>>622898

Gotta love the Merc tvh

And almost any other Entrek really.

That fat old man is seriously underrated.

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>>622898

Taking the bait this hard
I thought higher of you, /out/ists

>>622983
Sadly, /out/ is now /r9k/ goes on a picnic.

>>622993

Makes sense, since the robot is back on r9k and thus the extremely obnoxious sperlords that where contained there have migrated to pollute the other boards.

>>623005
I saw the announcement about the robot but I have no idea what it means. I accidentally went to /r9k/ once because I thought it was actually about robotics.

Serious: Is there any real advantage that these machetes have over an axe though?

>>623072
The reason is already posted

They are used in tropical climates where the majority of foliage is softer and more abundant than most. You would want a slashing tool to clear paths. An axe would serve little purpose for that job.
On the other hand a machete would serve little purpose if you wanted to go fell a tree.
Its just a matter of the right tool for the right job.

Use your head and think a little.

>>622724
spoken like a true britkek

>>623079
my matchete can fell a tree tho
it's just hard work

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>>622687
I use pic related.
10 inch blade.
If you want to chop a 7 inch thick branch it will take you a long time. It will also fuck up your wrist if you use it for one month, because the shock goes directly into your hand.
It is fine for garden clearing and processing kindling but that is where it stops unless you want to have permafucked wrists when you're old.
A decent hatchet or axe absorbs the shock and is the more effective chopper. You can also do some fine work with a hatchet, did you know that?
A traditional kukri is another thing, It absorbs shock better than your typical "chopper" and is a jack of all trades.
Still, the guys in the thread are right, machetes etc. are made for soft flora, not for raw wood work.

>>622983
Implying those and the bait itself isn't just a samefag shitting up the board

>>623068
The robot makes sure only unique text content can be posted. If its posted before, there are ban penalties

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>>622687
Ive never needed more than 4 inches

>>623402
Faggot

>>623068
The idea behind the robot is interesting- it's basically a script that enforces OC
http://blog.xkcd.com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-attacking-noise-in-chat/

but they underestimated 4chan's power to turn anything and everything into shit.

>>623402
Do you work for mustad or something?

>>622724
thread ruined

>>623402
are you talking about your penis?

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>>623091
>muh knife ban


keep on talking, amerikek

>>623346
I bought this thing on sale instead of a kukri for 2x the price, haven't taken it out yet but from your post I gather I'll be fine bringing this and an axe? Or is axe+hatchet a better combo?

I find myself now in a position where I can use my axe to get logs but it's a little harder to process then into fine kindling, so I figured a big knife would do the trick. I just didn't want to baton with the knife I carry.

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>>623696
Forgot to post my thing, just a 12" knife

>>623696
If you want to chop down trees and process them into firewood, it is best to have an axe.
If you just want to chop down trees and process them into firewood, go for axe+hatchet. For camping purpose go hatchet+folding saw+knife.
This video shows a good way to produce fine kindling with a hatchet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_koEUqSGgo

I use my machete mostly to goof around, not because it is practial.
If I really go innawoods camping, I always take the hatchet+folding saw+knife combo.

>>623884
Yeah, I was kinda thinking the big knife might be kinda superfluous. Oh well, I already have it. But you make a good point, beyond a hatchet, folding buck saw, and a decent knife I can't think of any other cutlery to add to my kit. Besides, maybe, a thin knife to filet fish, and/or cook with.

I was thinking one of the light my fire moras, because it can do two things: light my fires (duh), then process the food that goes into said fires, but I might just go with a dedicated "food" knife that ONLY does food.

>>622687
Bowie knives were designed as a side arm in the days before reliable pistols. If you plan to do a lot of knife fighting, it's a pretty good choice.

Ka-Bars are bowie shaped but more reasonably sized, and not a bad choice for an all around blade, though most people don't need more than an opinel 8-10 or a mora.

>>622692
What about sami knives? They're designed to be used for tasks including removing small branches for firewood, and are thick with a scandi grind, I think they would work decently well on hardwoods, though I am not sure there are a lot of advantages over a hatchet or folding saw.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sami_knife

>>622778
Wouldn't a 4-7 inch knife do all those tasks, with the possible exception of bulk clearing equally as well? And I can't imagine a reason for hacking through bushes in a temperate forest. Don't get me wrong, I would love an excuse to carry a ridiculous fuck off bowie, but I don't see that it is worth the extra weight.

Of course it would probably be reasonably effective against skinwalkers, though not perhaps more than a 10mm, which would weigh about the same, and can also be used for deer hunting.

>>623910
I think dedicated food knife makes most sense. I use an opinel no 6 in sandvik stainless. Laser sharp, easy to sharpen in the field, and plenty big enough to do any sort of food processing, other than butchering whole animals, which would call for a skinner anyhow.

It also makes a good dining knife. You can go larger, but seems like added weight for no reason. I have tiny hands though.

So big knives like the junglas, gso 10, or rtak 2 don't serve a purpose?

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>>622687
>>622792

I'm very interested in getting an actual khukiri for innawoods, does anyone use one? Is this misguided?

It seems like it would do equally well for delimbing and chopping wood, and ok at such splitting as might be necessary. You could probably chop down a small tree without much trouble, if you ever needed to for some reason. (This all is second hand and conjecture though.)

It's also probably enough to deter any creatures that might wish you harm, and in this regard much more useful than a forest axe.

This one costs about the same as a decent small forest axe, and with a 12" blade would be able to tackle most general bushcraft tasks when combined with a smaller fixed blade.

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>>624272
My junglas paired with a candiru

Would work good for carrying on hip, I'd say more useful than a hatchet.

So here's a question: should I get (1) Bowie knife and (1) small knife, or (1) kukri and (1) small knife?

>>624762
One small knife one hatchet. Be honest, a hatchet will do all the jobs you want your kukri to do.

>>624798
In the same way all knives cut, Kukris are shit for slashing vegetation, too heavy and with an extreme forward distribution but they prep wood waay better for the aformentioned reason plus the forward curve means kindling is done with the wrist more than the arm so horses for courses, IMO a kukri is closer to a hatchet in general purpose than a Bowie.

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>>624283
>does anyone use one? Is this misguided?
I bought a Cold Steel one because I wanted to try one and it was cheep. I love it.

>>624818
I understand the sentiment, but then why not go with the hatchet?

It's okay to just say "the kukri is cooler." Because for the most part, I agree. I bring a bk9 when I'm camping with my brother and gf, it's just cool, and it does everything I need it to, in the realm of light camping duties.

But realistically, the hatchet/small knife combo gives you the cheapest and most effective combo, imo. That's what I'd take if I was going by myself, anyways. Plus a folding bow saw, if I was really being fastidious.

>>624822
I've got both and alternate, the essential differences between them are the kukri is easier to carry on the hip and can be used very nicely as a draw knife and the hatchet is better at being a hatchet not surprisingly. Unless you're buying second hand or cheap stuff a hatchet is no cheaper than a kukri generally(YMMV)

There is never a one knife solution.

I suggest:

Pocket Knife, sharpest, food prep and delicate work.

3-4 inch fixed blade, a puukko is good shout as a woods knife Imo. This is for camp tasks such as feather sticks, notches, etc.

A short axe. Hand and a half. If needed, I can quite comfortably get by without an axe.

The argument is whether a large knife replaces an axe is mute. It doesn't. But it does do the smaller work, passably.

A saw. Folding, or collapsable. Always.

Imo the crucial three are a pocket knife, wood knife, and saw.

>>623092
Sounds like you answered your own question.

>>622716
My nigga right here

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>>622687

Arrived today.

Extremely happy

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>>622724
>Why they're legal to own is beyond me.

>>622687
Topkek. That's the exact machete I own, or rather, an exact ripoff of it. For some reason I doubt Tramontina is affiliated with 'World Export Super Knife'.

>>622687
So I said this in another thread, but it warrants reiterating. Cutting and chopping wood is a waste of time and energy (and pack weight), unless you're living in a cabin and processing green wood for next winter. If you're only going to be there for a short time, just grab a wrist-thick fallen branch, swing it like a bat against a tree about 18 inches from the far end. It'll break clean in one hit if it's good firewood, otherwise, it's too green to burn. No tools, minimal energy, very fast. You're welcome.

>>625924
This is fact. I build 3 or 4 fires a week. Guess what I never need? A chopping tool of any kind.

Even building a shelter you don't need an axe/machete/kukri

I own a few axes. I use them on my property all the time, though less than my chainsaw. I never bring them camping though. I just bring my multitool because it's all you need, dork.

>>625932
It feels weird to have some agree with me on 4Chan. Thanks.

Every tool has it's use, but native Americans lived here for a very long time before iron tools were brought over. They just built small fires from fallen branches, they never needed to chop down a tree for firewood.

>>625940
Man it feels weird every time I agree with some stranger online

It's cool though. Cheers

>>625924
Might work in the US but you won't find too many Eucalypts that will break that easily if they're wrist thick, generally you have to wedge them to break them, or lean one on something and jump on it which isn't ideal.

>>625995
Agreed. I usually don't make it out of the inland northwest, so I'm lucky if I see anything besides pine. Survival skills are always location dependant, though. Inuit are masters of ice and snow, but imagine them trying to survive on a tropical island... it's funny, in a sad kind of way, they'd probably starve, despite the abundance.

>>626005
To be honest from what I've seen of people trying to survive on tropical islands, props to the various islander peoples of the world, seems like water can be an absolute bitch.

>>626008
I think that you'd be comfortable living in just about any environment you grow up in, especially around people who're also comfortable living there. Survival is all about knowledge and skills, you'd just kind of grow up knowing what you'd need to know. It's the same as how urban kids don't know shit about living on a farm and rural kids don't know shit about living in the city.

>What are you stupid? You can't go down that street!
>Are you stupid? You don't milk a steer!

>>622687
Born and raised in Maine... get an axe.