Recently picked up a Helle Alden while abroad strictly because

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They look sweet! But can't afford one :-( seems like a nicer, better mora!

>>580377
You made a great choice helle are high quality knives

>>580377

Helle are good, that knife will last forever as long as you don't do anything silly with it. Keep it safe or use it hard, either way it's a good choice.

>>580377
Beautiful knives, much better looking than falkniven

>>580377
Hella knives are all hand made in Norway.
Here is some history about your knife.
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>>580377
Are they baton worthy?

>>580377
>Helle Alden
>114$ on the zon

too rich for my blood

>>580377
if i was going to get a helle i'd get the ultvaer. just seams stronger haha. good choice on the alden though!

>>580377
>stainless steel

am i justified in being wary of stainless steel blades ? i never owned a high quality knife, but from my experience with cheaper ones carbon blades were always easier to sharpen and an edge longer.

>>584003
I think they use stick tangs, which means its twice as good for battoning.

Easy to sharpen, decent steel, well worth the price. Helle deserves more praise.

>>584250
twice as good? ID SAY TEN TIMES AS GOOD.

work hardening baton bricks to sharpen knife

>>584716
>decent steel

What steel do they use

>>585674
Metul steal

>>584232
Well that's kind of the thing with carbon steel over stainless steel

There is nothing wrong with stainless that is well heat treated but on average it isn't as easy to sharpen and it won't get the same keen edge that you get with carbon steels, but it is obviously more rust resistant which some people find to be a necessity and the higher end steels will hold an edge longer than most carbon steels so you have to consider what characteristics will best suit your needs

>>580377
Helle are like Moras. Stronger than what most people give them credit for. Just a much higher quality and F&F
Just don't be stupid with it (ie don't baton through huge knotty wood, use the tip as a screwdriver, etc)

>>584232
I'll be honest, my Mora Stainless can hold a edge very well.
Only difference is that stainless is more difficult to sharpen

>>587925
Which holds an edge better, the mora stainless or the helle? Or are they equal?

>>589296
Not him but I don't really notice a difference.

>>580377
Looks nice, what did it cost?

>>591355
Out the door $100 and change

>>585674

sandvik, or a 3-layer laminate of some sort.

>>580377
Very nice, that's the type of knife that you can pass down to your kid

sorry to rain on your parade but this vid put me off a bit - really wanted a Helle until i saw this..
check out the xray he shows 6min in.
http://youtu.be/YHKInZL8-RQ
if u can get past his accent he knows plenty about what makes a good knife a good tool for specific jobs.

>>595100

He only uses knives for processing deer.

Hence why he likes Bark River, when the company is known for being utter shit.

>>595110
still, the xray shows it up for a lack of quality - especially at the price.

>>595110
still the xray shows a lack of build quality - especially at the price they go for.

>>595110

Why is bark river shit? Just curious.

>>595110
still the xray shows up some bad build quality - especially for the price they go for

sorry dont know why that posted so many times - kinda new here.

>>595110
thats not entirely true either - ive seen a lot of his vids and he talks a lot about the benefits of different grinds/blades for different jobs - everything from chopping/splitting wood, deer processing, even fighting bears.

>>595110
>>595125
He primarily uses his knives for hunting which he bases the overwhelming bulk of his opinions on a knife.
He has that one test where he cuts into balsa wood. Really good for testing the quality of the handle but otherwise rather limited in use.

Convex grinds are nice for hunting/skinning.
Scandi grinds, not so much. For me, scandis seem to resist slicing/skinning tasks more than a saber/convex grind.

>>595237
skandi and sabre is pretty much the same thing

>>595125

Yes but he bases all his oppinions on his hunting knowledge.

For example he has no clue about military knives. And it shows.

>>595321
still, i found his knowledge of knives useful for my needs. some of the reviews on youtube are fucking clown shoes.

>>595336
i don't care about clown shows just turn it off i hate it more when the review is solid and interesting but they speak russian french or an other moon language.

>>595321
Works for me, why would I need a military knife?

>>595116
It isn't. Just overpriced.

>>595336
>>595361

Sure, virtouvice is masterrace and quite comfy to watch, and really knowledgeable

But he likes Bark River for his super specific use of knives and I'm just saying he's not a master of general knife knowledge, as he may seem to be, just hunting / utility knowledge.

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>>595116

Copy pasted from /k/


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/585934-Bark-River-has-taken-16-000-of-My-Money

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/594676-broke-my-bark-river-kephart

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/697991-I-am-done-with-Bark-River!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ss8NtqEkw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io38wpBLNfg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RmYD3_DMk

>>595376
>just hunting / utility knowledge
You mean 99% of work done with a knife outside?

>>595389

For hunters and hikers, yes.

>>595408
As opposed to whom?

>>595377
Mh.
People not knowing how to handle their knifes?

>>595414
Bark River shill detected.

>>595409

Military guys, shelter builders, (true) "survivalists", etc...

I couldnt cite you any jewtubers, since most all of them are shit.

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>>595414

No, Bark River being a shit company and their products being either sub-par quality or overpriced.

>>595420
The tasks they do are still the same

>>595420
Bark river is popular with military guys though, and shelter builders and "true" survivalist, you can find lots of videos and posts of morons beating their bark river knives through wood

>>595421
Oh, imagine that, an axe and a machete have completely different uses and are a poor substitute for each other, truly shocking

>>595427

Never seen a soldier irl or in pics with a Bark River.

It is true that the company promotes their Bravo line as military designed but whatever.

And its also like soldiers dont usually carry whatever they want including hunting and skinning knives, but for example i myself would never recommend them over a cheaper knife or a better quality one that would cost around the same money.

>>595431
not really. that's just poor steel / style.

>>595453
even the best steel can be fucked up by bad treatment.

>>595471
yesyes, and no doubt the cold didn't help either. It's still a bad design in the very least. (I bet the steel wasn't that good. being broken and all)

>>595453
What do you mean, not really

Are you saying they are the same and can easily be made to perform as well as the other in its specific task?

>>595576
I am saying that a machete and hand axe can perform most of the same tasks. cutting foliage with axe is just.... Okay, you generally don't want axe for it. other than that. yes. You can do nearly anything you would do with an axe with a machete and visa versa.

>>595580
Oh, you could have just told me you have no experience with either tool

>>595581
right. name a task that either can perform and the other can't.

>>595580
>splitting logs with a machete
>processing wood with a machete
not sure what machetes are actually good for so i can't into reverse wtf here people use scythes and sickles for the sort of stuff south americans use matchetes but recently electric hedge-clippers really saturated the market.

>>595597
>splitting wood
you take a log, you whack you machete into it, you whack you machete with another wood, then you whack the wood you machete stuck in into ground. ok, it takes a bit more time than with a hand axe, but...
as for big logs... you can't really split stuff that has bigger girth than your machetes, and logs nearly as big as your matchete you need some cord and engineering. Not that logs that big are easily doable with a hand axe either.
>processing wood with machete
hardly ideal for the task, but will perform at or close to same levels as a hand axe.

machetes are good for clearing foliage. and movies. and gansta posing. generally for heavier foliage (bamboo, tree saplings, ect.) that scythe generally won't work at.

>>595584
Working as a machete and working as an axe would be the two big ones

>>595609
a.. what now? like... as a movie props or? are there actually career opportunities for blades in your part of world?

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>>595581
>>595597

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>>595626
also the unholy abomination fusing both axe n machete.

>>595626

>>595638

Neither of which will fell trees or split wood for shit and could break if you use them like an axe

>>587925
Stainless is not hard to sharpen. The only ppl who bitch about sharpening, are fags who are suck at it.

>>595660
both can be used for felling trees and splitting wood.
and are about equal for HAND AXE.
So you fuckers, machete cant compete with chainsaw, combine harvester, or the machines people actually use to do stuff.

>>595666
Stainless steel is a combination of iron and shit.
there are literally millions know formulas for stainless steel. both your fork and depleted uranium kinetic round are stainless steel.
And You honestly don't want to sharpen anything uranium.

>>580377
Crap. Complete crap. Clunky blade. A pain to work with. Birch handle of poor quality. Mine broke just below the blade in the front. For Scandinavian blades you def go Swedish or Finnish.

>>595767
How did you break it?

>>595431

Not that anon, but Bark River has been proven time and time again to be ran by crooks and to fuck their HT up to an incredible extent.

>>598127
please elaborate

>>599845

Read the mfgging thread muggfugger


Copy pasted from /k/


http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/585934-Bark-River-has-taken-16-000-of-My-Money

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/594676-broke-my-bark-river-kephart

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/697991-I-am-done-with-Bark-River!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ss8NtqEkw [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io38wpBLNfg [Embed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3RmYD3_DMk [Embed]

>>600054
There are many more people who are completely satisfied though

>>580377
What's that handle made of?

>>603611
Usually Birch

>>600054
> Oh no, my paper thin knife gets chips when I baton with it.

>>580377
How is that better than a mora

>>595113
that's the proper angle for a strong blade and its a stick tang, it's supposed to be narrower