Hammocks and spine health

>>1070799
I personally dislike hammocks exactly because I don't get a healthy sleep in them. If I can help it. I always rather sleep on the floor. That said, there are of course still pros and cons about it.

When you go camping even it's extended for weeks, sleeping daily in a hammock should do anything to your spine. Unless you're sensitive like me and your sleeping quality got worse and thus affects you through the day, of course.

I guess "longterm" as in months and in an off the grid kind off scenario you should rather look for a bed. You'd be needing a base camp anyway thus even building a bed (like) once wouldn't be too much.

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>My hammock using friends told me that you're supposed to sleep in some specific way

Sleep like this

>>1070827
This.

Most people who use hammocks, use them incorrectly. If they're complaining about poor sleep it's like holding a knife by the blade and complaining that the manufacturer made it too dangerous.

>>1070827
>>1070848
>move from center
>turn
>brake your neck falling down
>sleep forever
just wow!

>>1070864
>amerilards are afaid of sleeping on hammocks
jesus fuck, do you need a hammock tactical survival guide too?

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Many people who have back problems have switched to hammocks because they can no longer sleep on the ground.

Other people try and hammock and just cant quite get comfortable. Id argue most of the them aren't using the right equipment, or are using it incorrectly. A lot of people buy a cheap hammock, hang it woth paracord, and use a sleeping bag, then complain they were cold and uncomfortable. That's their fault, not the hammock.

Still, some people just dont find them comfortable.

For me, the first morning I sat up in the hammock, and out my boots on, I was sold. Not having to crawl out of a tent on your hands and knees is glorious.

>>1071417
No thanks. I'd rather spend 10 minutes setting up my tent and never worry about storms / winds / getting cold then spend 1 hour setting up 10 different rope systems and tarps after already spending another hour finding a decent spot to hang it.

Let's face it, hammocks are a meme for people who never climb mountains and just spend their time in their backwoods. You'll never see a real mountaineer in anything other then a tent or bivy

>>1071810
This is bait but a hammock takes far less time to set up and comes down in a minute or two. You aren't hiking k2 and neither am I, there usually isn't a reason to camp above the treeline and if you do odds are you're damaging the alpine vegetation. With hammocks I never worry about uneven, rocky, or soggy ground.

>>1070799
You sleep diagonally in the hammock and that gives you back support. I did it for 3 months and never had any issues.

>>1071858
Seriously this, last time I went camping I was able to set up my hammock with tree straps whoopie slings a ridgeline and a bugnet, as well as help 2 others set up hammocks for the first time with much less accessories than I had while the final member of our group struggled to pitch a tent.

By the time I was down setting up 3 hammocks, 2 of them with an improvised marlin hitch setup using rope and sticks I still had time to stand around and bug the tent guy to ask if he needed help.

>>1071417
I've only used my hammock twice yet, and each time I've used a sleeping bag. What is the ideal set up? What pad do you use underneath to keep warm? The last time I used it I became so uncomfortably cold by midnight that I simply lowered it onto my airmat on the ground and slept decently well for the rest of the night.

>>1071937
Not him but the ideal hammock camping setup is an underquilt with a top quilt or sleeping bag. I'm a poorfag though and just use a closed cell foam pad with a sleeping bag, its a pain in the ass to keep the pad under yourself sometimes but mine works just fine below freezing.

>>1071858
A hammock for long periods of time or in cold weather would suck. Not to mention mosquitoes.

Tents are ideal in most north temperate climates.

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If you bring a telt but want a cheap hammock for napping between the fishing sessions, I can recommend this one. Literally costs pocket change

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>>1071959
Seller offers guaranteed 60 day shipping; an extra five bucks gets you 2 day shipping from Amazon.

Also, according to the item specs, it'll add 0.75lbs to your pack weight.

At what point is an underquilt advisable? I'm not that prone to getting cold at night, but then I also haven't hammock camped yet. Is there a standard temperature threshold? For temps above that will a pad/sleeping bag work?

>>1071937
>ideal
underquilt
that being said, i use a thermarest pad in case i can't find a good pair of trees, and have to go to ground

>>1072254
not really a temperature question. UQ is just easier because it's secured to the hammock. pads have a tendency to slide out from under you as you roll around

>>1072403

Are there any potential issues with overheating? I somewhat understand how the under quilt works, but that's one thing I absolutely can't stand is getting hit when I sleep.

>>1072428

*hot

>>1072428
not really. obviously don't bring a winter setup on a summer trip. Some people who go the underquilt route use a top quilt instead of a bag. that way is basically like sleeping with blankets. too hot, and you can push the quilt down a bit, hang a leg out, or remove it altogether

>>1072398
>>1071947
Thanks guys

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>>1071959
Net hammocks are awful.

>>1072428
Yes, but less so than a sleeping bag+pad because you can kick a leg out, push the topquilt down, etc. It's more like sleeping in a bed.

If you're poor or want 1 sleep system for both tents and hammocks, look at the "pea pod" setup which is basically just cutting a slot in the foot of a mummy bag, through which you feed the hammock. Little harder to get in and out of than a dedicated topquilt+underquilt, but lighter, and with the addition of a zipper or a couple snaps (requires modest DIY knowhow and the ability to sew) you're not ruining it as a sleeping bag either.

I tried it with the lightweight bag out of a USGI modular sleep system, since they're cheap enough to be effectively disposable, and it works rather well for summer hiking.

>>1074473
I call it a cocoon, I deseamed the whole footbox, sewed the hammock into it and have a webbing-reinforced slit under the hood as well, but yeah, this.

>>1074473
>>1072438
>>1072398
So am I to understand that by using the under quilt, you remove the need for a sleeping bag? So you would just use… A blanket?

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>>1074862
You can just use a blanket, but most people compliment an underquilt with a top quilt.

A top quilt is kind of like a sleeping bag with no back, or a blanket with a spot sewn up to slide your feet into.

So much more comfortable than a sleeping bag.

>>1070799
get a draumr from amok.
they are expensive as fuck but you'll sleep better than in your own bed

>>1074892
>>1074862
https://www.exploreserac.com/4-ways-to-stay-warm-hammock-camping-without-an-underquilt/
These guys do a decent go-through of hammock strategy without an underquilt

I slept in a hammock for about a month and a half straight and the only problem I had was that I didn't like having my feet squished together.

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currenly repping the diagonal (i'm on a hill so the right side is kinda janky and I'm 6'5 in a Hennessy for 6' max) first night will report back

>>1079942
alright boys the neck is great but don't fucking pitch a Hennessy on an angle if it's gunna rain oh fucking god did I fuck up

>>1080199
at least you learned your lesson.

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>>1080199
Provide Details

>>1071949
Hammocks with an attached zipper bugnet are the best bug proofing I've ever used, throw a sleeping bag of choice inside and it's good for almost any temperature.

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>>1070848
>well actually
But yeah I get what you're saying