Kelly Kettle alternatives.

what does it do that a Trangia cant for less money and weight

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You must be retarded if you can't figure this out

>>1065882

You apparently don't know how a Kelly Kettle works, or even what one is.

>>1065878

Burns a handful of twigs to boil 3 pints of water in minutes. The whole point is to not have to carry or cut any fuel.

>>1065892
the KETTLE does this?

or does the STOVE do this

>>1065894

The kettle IS the stove. It's twin walled; the top hole you see in the kettle is the flue, the hole to the side is the spout. Can also get pot stands which sit over the flue.

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>>1065898

Pic related. There's also a version called a Ghillie Kettle that costs similar (in fact I think Kelly Kettles are actually made by Ghillie and just re-branded).

>>1065898
You want a high tech product for almost free. Are you female or just didn't you have a dad to explain there is no such thing as a free lunch?

>>1065902
he asked for a possible alternative baka

a woman would ask where she can get a discount

>>1065902

It's not hi-tech, it's extremely basic. It's just 3mm steel fabricated to a simple shape. I'm unwilling to spend $200 on one if I can get a chinky one at a fraction of the price.

>>1065908
And I already posted a picture of a $3 alternative. Quit helping the chinks take our jobs you are just wasting your money on crap and causing pollution

>>1065913

Christ alive. Are you a troll or are you really this clueless?

Never mind.

I really don't care which.

>>1065914
Nice adhoms

>>1065916

Another philosophy student from Google U who thinks he knows what an ad hominem is. Go on, misuse "begging the question" and "straw man" just to complete the Internet Dickhead Who Sucks At Debating trifecta.

Can we get back to the fucking subject now?

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ultimate set master race here.

>>1065922
>projecting this hard

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>>1065926

>>1065926
This is dumber than the stick snapper

>>1065926
There's no reason to carry all of that unless you're only going for 2 days.

>>1065974
Are you one of those stickarm weaklings?

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a challenger is appear!

>>1065979
Now THIS is ad hom, mixed with a loaded question for extra spiciness.

Personally, I always pack a fully furnished LPG stovetop, complete with overhead extraction system, benchtop and joinery. Campers these days are little pussy bitches who only carry a cast iron Dutch oven and frying pan at most.

There is a possible alternative, but I don't remember what it was called, you use it with a regular pot and it redirects the flames around and out near the top, causing less loss of heat.

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>>1065874
Stainless steel angel food cake pan.

Just start the fire in the tube.

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>>1065991

>>1065902
How the hell is this remotely hi tech?

>>1065935
Agreed

>>1065935
>>1066186
Nah, it's perfectly fine. The whole set is worth it.

>>1065991

Going to second this, burns twigs and boils water in minutes. Kettlepot addition works really well.

>>1065874
at fifty bucks, they aren't even that expensive. I do know an alternative, but it's about 40 bucks unless you can get your hands on swiss surplus canteen (in which case it's about 20), so you don't save that much. Anyways, I've yet to try this myself and have only seen it done once, so don't rely on me to much.

Here's how it works: first, you need to get a stainless steel canteen (aluminium might work as well, but I wouldn't use it due to the risk of aluminium poisoning). The canteen should be as thin and high as you can find. You'll also need a cork (as in actual cork, not plastic or rubber) and a hobo stove tall and wide enough to put the canteen into it and still have space to the sides. If you'll do this more often, you might want to modify the stove so it keeps the canteen stable and at a constant height.

First you fill the canteen and loosely place in the opening (don't press it in to hard or the canteen might develop pressure inside), then light the stove. once the fire is going strong, place the canteen on top. The stove will guide the smoke and hot air to the sides of the canteen, making for more effective heat transfer while the cork limits the amount of escaping steam to the point where the canteen just barely maintains atmospheric pressure, minimizing heat loss. once the water comes to a boil, the cork should pop out (it'll rise slightly to let steam out, then fall back down) under the increased pressure.
Now as I said, I've only seen this done once, so I can't guarantee that my description is completely correct.

>>1066100
If you sta d it up on some flat rocks....that'll let air in....not a horrible idea anon

>>1066384
>>1066100
>that boiling hot touch

Storm Kettle is the other big brand version than Ghillie and Kelly.

>>1065979
Nah, just I live in places where 5k climbs per day are common if you're going to actually backpack and not just hiking 4 miles from your car.

>>1066442
>5K>5miles

Murican education

>>1066446
As in, 5000 ft of elevation change you retard

It's like you don't hike at all

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>>1066391
Just rivet a handle or two to it. Use solid rivets and hammer, not pop rivets. The one pictured has 3 tabs you can drill holes in and wire up a handle for it too.

>>1066384
I think I'd probably make a cover out of sheet metal/old cans to go over an existing canteen/pot. That way it could be placed over the vessel and fire to direct the full flow of the fire around the vessel. If it were doubled walled, it could have rockwool insulation between the walls to make it even more efficient.

Though, I have a rocket stove, so all I'd need to do is use a stainless steel water bottle and set it down inside the flue of the rocket stove....which I already have 2 bottles. One I turned into a water distillery using the same thing (pic). Though, copper-tasting water is fucking horrid, I can at least use muddy water to make clear water. That stainless bottle being used to catch the water in this pic would work easily in the flue for regular water heating.

>>1066447
Dude walking 5000 feet is easy, you should try climbing 5000 feet and then back down which is another 5000 feet. 10,000 total which is even harder actually. Do you even climb up or down?

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>>1066489
>climbing back down

What!?

>>1066508
proximity flyers are fucking mad.

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>>1066489

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>>1066515
ikr

>>1066515

Contrary to popular belief, there's a big difference between bravery and totally retarded risk taking.

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>>1066065
Sounds like a Solo Stove to me. I have one and it boils water surprisingly fast. It can also be modified to use alcohol.

>>1065922
why should he cunt ? Explain why he has used it wrong, the onus is on you and I agree with him quit being a cheapskate and pay for a real days work not some chink shite or alternatively make your own.

There's not many better options than a big one of these if you have 30 dudes a whole lot of water and a whole lot of fuel. But to make your own hot water better off with a jet boil or similar but simpler gas stove. Or a pressurized liquid fuel stove in the mountains or the extreme cold, where the gas will start to not perform so well. Even a hobo stove made out of a can running on liquid fuel works to boil enough water for one or two people in 10 mins or less.

They're great but you might not want to backpack all that metal. It's a communal piece of kit in my experience, but I guess there are also miniature versions. With a big one it takes more than sticks, if you want everyone to be able to brew up soon you're going to want hexamine or similar.

>>1065926
that looks clunky and heavy as fuck

>>1066447
Not who you responded to but saying 5K and meaning anything other than a race or distance of 5 kilometers is just wrong. There are better ways to denote 5000' than dropping the imperial units and using metric notation and expecting people to know what you mean.

That said, anyone who thinks a climb = distance traveled when discussing hiking is equally stupid.

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>>1069198
>heavy as fuck
>2.2 lbs.

Shit the lid on my cast iron frying pan weighs more than than. Get yourself a game cart, limp wrist.

>>1065926

You could leave all of that shit behind, take the pot and lid. Put it on some rocks and light sticks under it.

>>1065874
Where are they made? I can't find any info about this.

>>1069191
It seems great for a cabin or camper other stationary camp without running potable water. Sure as fuck wouldn't want to be carrying one of these around for long distances though.

>>1069786
>some rocks
>actually carrying ROCKS with you because you don't want to carry some "industrialized metal waste product"

Oh you are sooooooooo hipster there, boyscout.

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>>1069175
No, I gave a really shitty description. I just remembered what it's called - a caldera cone.

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>>1065874
$100 dollars at walmart