/out/ vehicle thread

2009 f150. I wanted something more midsize but this has been perfect

>>>/o/

>>1063264
Yeah, I was looking at Rangers for a while as they're similar to the era of Tacoma that I like so much, but one of my good friends got one a month or so ago so I'm not trying to bite his shit.

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Forester is my fave. But a Outback is also great. Auto isn't too bad, but Mine is also a Manual.

>>1063268
Yeah I love the look of rangers and tacomas but the deal on the f150 was just too good to pass up

Right now my daily isn't off-road capable at all but my work lets me use an '09 Forester as a field vehicle when I need to go innawoods and get paid for it. I've got my eye on a '07 Outback when my daily finally either sells or dies

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>forester
gutless as shit. even driving level on 395 in eastern ca my friend's couldn't maintain 70 mph at 7000'. not that that will be a real big issue in wisconsin

i have a 2004 crv. i always lol at the looks on the jeep guys' faces when my cute-ute rolls up next to theirs 12 miles deep in the forest. and i get 31 mpg going over sonora pass.

>>1063280
odd question but can you measure the rear cabin on that when you get the chance? I am having a really hard time finding good numbers for the CRV. I'm in need of a small SUV with about 32" of room up and about 72" from front to back, that isn't gas-thirsty, hance why I'm asking.

>>1063280
My mom has an 02 CRV and I love that thing. You'd think they'd be easy to find everywhere, but the only one's that I see popping up are too new or need too much work. 5 counties over in my hometown, though, they're all over the place

>>1063282
i'll try to remember, but
>72" from front to back
you want to sleep in it? if that's the case be aware the back seats don't lay all the way flat, so you'll have to either be okay sleeping with about a 5° bend at your hips, or build a frame of some sort.

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>>1063280
Forester, and all Subarus for that matter, have full time AWD. The CRV comes either FWD and optional AWD. Plus The Honda is only AWD when it detects wheel slip. I'd rather just have Fulltime AWD. And 165hp 2.5 EJ25 isnt gutless.

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>>1063286
>peak horsepower is all that matters
what are power curve, torque curve, and gearing

>>1063285
oh no this soecific number is actually for when I need to transport my Honda Trail Cub around on the highway! it's about bicycle size in length, but a lot shorter height-wise (how, without disassembly, just a hair too tall for the Outback and just a few inches too long for a Forester or early-gen RAV4)

>>1063286
>>1063287
but i concede that subie's awd is top tier.

>>1063288
copy. i'll try to grab those numbers for you tomorrow.

>>1063287
5speed manual has very short gearing, I've gone up mountain trails and stuff and had an issue. Also depends on what Rear end is equipped on the early model foresters. With or without LSD.

You may have just felt the lack of power associated with the AWD. Newer models dont have that problem.

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>>1063291
Had no issues, my mistake.

Not trying to bash on Honda or Toyota Rav4, Etc. But Subi has mastered the entry level AWD market. Anything more, buy a 4x4 SUV/Truck if it doesn't suit your needs.

Even my old beater Subaru Wagon was GOAT offroad.

>>1063291
the two i've driven were '07 and '10 autos, and as soon as thry got above about 5000' they lost so much power they damn near started rolling backwards when going uphill. it was my experiences with them that stopped me from buying one myself. but maybe when i'm in the market for a new used car in about 6-8 years i'll give the '15s/'16s a shot.

>>1063293
Honda Cubfag here, I've got an EA81 Loyale hatch as my daily. Slow as molasses, but besides one issue with some stagnant gas after coming home from a six-week vacation, it's never broken down on me. Only wish it had more cargo room so I could haul my dumb shit around more easily since I can only really afford one car at the moment

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Summer vehicle

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Winter toy

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and the four-wheeled one

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>>1063294
I own a first gen forester 5speed, never an Auto. Maybe that's the better, less gutless option? I dunno lol.

My wife and kids ride in a 2017 Forester CVT and it is definitely not gutless. Also had a XV Crossstrek, That was gutless.

>>1063295
My Loyale I got for $300. Threw a Clutch and A radiator in it and it was bullet proof.
Besides maintenance It never let me down. Totally based. I sold it to some Military bros who drove it from California to Virginia and love the shit of it like I did.

Need more storage? Roof rack system my friend.

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The Pathfinder is a dream for me
Too bad I could only get it in automatic. At least it has 4WD and Low Range, tho.

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Just seen this for sale. €2,500.

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Trust me, you don't want manual, especially on an older 'Yota. Synchros are expensive yo.

Just got a 1999 Ford Ranger

>>1063333
>le reddit battlecar meme

At least it isn't a subaru for once.

>>1063333
Nice quads

Chevy Blazer/GMC Jimmy
>Cheap as fuck used
>Easy to find parts for
>4WD
>shitton of clearance
>Can run for ~300k miles before shitting out
>Piss easy to work on
They really are perfect for /out/ if you're looking for a vehicle that can go /out/. Otherwise you can always tow a dirt bike with if that's more your speed.

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anecdotal experience leads me to believe only lesbians drive subaru foresters.

Prius c for light trails, f-250 diesel for hd. The c did well on dirt roads, obsidian didnt pop the tires.

Need a tweener.

>>1063394
Also abs n trac control are nice, i can roll on ice straight. Tested many times

>>1063378
do not care what others think

what's the worst thing that can happen, some douchebag will call you a lesbian?

that's pretty harmless banter anyway

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>>1063378
Owned 7 Subarus, not one fuck given about the stigma associated with the LGBT and Vape Fag memes.

Any car brand gets love by its Loyal owners and hate from other fanboys.

Capcha: select all pictures with Hats... flat bill hats... wtf.

>>1063417
>>1063499
I like how neither of you directly deny that you are lesbo vapers.

ITT: people who've never drove through a paddock let alone done any real offroading.

>>1063337
Not op.
Is this a 4runner? I've been wanting one for a while now

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>>1063540
>yanks

>>1063510
Please do go on captain bad ass. Regale us all with your obviously superior off road knowledge.

>>1063507
the only winning move in such cases is not to play aka don't feed the troll

pick any vehicle model you want and there's gonna be a critic who will call you names based on what you drive

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>>1063417
>>1063499
>this spacing
stop samefagging and going to reddit, either that or go and stay go.

>>1063510
thinking that an /out/ vehicle must be off-road capable is a fallacy

not all /out/ activities requires off road vehicle travel

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get with the times, /out/

>>1063564
I'm glad that the european pick up market is expanding, maybe the competition will push prices down. I'd buy a less fancy pick up than Mercedes though, but I welcome it as an addition to the market.

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My dream car

>>1063565
what I dislike of this trend is they're designed as a juiced /fit/izen. That muscular and heavy body is pretty retarded if you ask me. If I were designing and producing pickups I would throw anything non essential away. Like an old time Defender but with better parts.

>>1063263
I too dislike auto trannies.

>>1063510
Paddock=brit, aussie, kiwi= who cares.

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Pretty gud /out/ vehicle. A nice blend of affordable, capable, reliable and disposable. Seats 7, has legit 4x4, only downside is the IFS front end. That said, still a very capable rig.

>>1063540
Landcruiser nigga.

>>1063510
t. carless busrider.

>>1063577
They're designed to meet the needs of their target market.
A European self employed/business owner with a family.
Someone who needs a vehicle that can carry some shit, pull a trailer, and maybe drop a crew off at a jobsite, but not so much shit that he needs a van or flatbed truck. Those go to the employees.

It also needs leather seats, and a comfy ride so he can take his family out on weekends and pull a boat, or caravan, and also carry dogs and equipment on hunting trips.

In 1990 my Father was in the same position.
He went with an Isuzu Pickup.
There were no luxury trucks on the European market back then.
Everything was spartan and the only extra was power steering.

Again in 1999, he chose the Mitsubishi L200.
A little better comfort, A/C and electric windows, but still rides like a truck and the rear seats are cramped.

It's my turn now, and even though I don't have kids I'm hoping the Mercedes is a winner.

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>>1063652
Doesn't this Merc share the same platform as the Navara and Alaskan? Either way personally I like the Amarok the best.

>>1063644
Thanks f a m

>>1063659
Not a problem for me. Navara is a decent platform.
Can't beat a Mercedes interior and engine though.

>>1063553
god damn, am I completely gay for short-wheelbase land cruisers. too bad they're geared so low that I can't really afford one for the moment since I mostly do highway miles and that's where they are the worst

>>1063759
Change rear end to higher geared one.
Change gearbox to 5 instead of 4 speed.

>>1063584
they have their uses in a few places offroad, especially when maintaining a consistent spot in the powerband would ruin your clutch otherwise. that said, that's usually for really hardcore stuff (also the only time a solid front axle is really much good) and the rest of the time a manual is fine

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>>1063742
>Navara is a decent platform
Glad you like it since Nissan will be the one building it.

>Can't beat a Mercedes interior and engine though
this one is basic bitch as fuck, and for the motors they're pretty good until they catch fire. ;_;

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Yaaaay it's this thread again.

>>1063601
Capable even with IFS. Very affordable if stateside.

>>1063564
I am greatly looking forward to Ameristan getting the Aussie Ranger at last. I know that's a Ford and not a Merc, but still

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>>1063769
also muh Ford Ranger

>>1063268
>>1063277
if you're dealing with shite gas mileage, these are great. full sized trugs are too heavy but if you're not doing hard mudding or rock climbing, you should be good.

>>1063769
yeah solid front axles are cool on crazy rock climbing courses but frankly fucking useless at best in 99% of situations otherwise. probably even outright dangerous at speeds exceeding 120 kph

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>>1063775
I run 140kmph pretty often when passing already going traffic. I try not to because this thing is just a fucking brick hurdling through the air. Especially after my Inline-5 swap which will afford me a top speed of 120kmph.

Otherwise, my solid fronts make me feel small bumps but greatly cushion the blows from larger bumps. Speedbumps and road curbsare nothing in these and I am the most comfortable overlander in my group except for that one guy with his portal axle G-Wagon.

Modern IFS vehicles are great going over 120 but anything with those Dana 50 swaps of older than 90s, yeah... Maybe not.

>>1063779
You seem pretty knowledgeable about Land Cruiser/diesel stuff so buying advice question: someone near me is selling an '84 FJ60 with a Cummins 3.9 4-cyl. Stock H42 4-speed trans and transfer case, frame has about 200k miles (330k km or so?) and 100k miles (170k km or so?) on the motor. Frame's been rust converted and overcoated recently. Is this a decent overlander vehicle for about $4k or nah

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Hilux loves going /out/

Goes almost anywhere with diff locks.

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>>1063791
Post location. Depending on that, the 350km could mean 0km or 600km.

With the cummins swap options, get him to disclose everything. And I mean everything. There must be a reason he put in an I-4 instead of the I-6 and there are quite a few issues that goes into mating cummins diesels with the stock transmission and transfer case. Normally, people bring over the transmission 4500 (5 speed) out of the rusting Dodge vehicles into their new truccs. This removes any computer missues that you may encounter later down the line.

However, $4000 is a very good price for a swapped FJ60 if it's pretty clean. Plus an I-4 cummies will probably save you much more gas than the stock engine and even the I-6.

Now, the FJ60 isn't as "offroad" capable as the 80 or the 70. But you're not going to be doing much mudding or rock climbing in either one of these except maybe a shorter base 70. Very decent overlander. But with a lot of 60s, they're too pretty to justify overlanding.

>>1063801
Washington DC area.

And yeah were I to buy it, I'd almost certainly re-do at least the trans. Probably consider refreshing the cases and axles, too

>>1063553
I am the same poster. I had 7 subarus.
Your point?

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Wierd
I'd have thought out would be more... Reckless?

>>1063282
all approximate, as i was measuring them quickly while trying to wrangle my 2 year old
>floor to ceiling
38"
>wheel well to wheel well
42"
>back door to front seat
66", but i have my seat pretty far back, so 72" shouldn't be a problem.

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>>1063862
Ah dang, thanks so much dude! Also, in the meantime, poking around at numbers on the CR-V got me looking at the Element (which is just a weird minivan CR-V thingy, mechanically) and damn, there is photo evidence of properly big shit fitting in there. I know it's ugly but now I'm genuinely curious...

>>1063872
your welcome. though come to think of it, how would you get it up? tailgate is about midthigh on me.

and yeah, elements are basically just a big-ass box so they'll eat a ton. definitely form<function though, lol. and their ground clearance is shit, iirc.

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>terra
>mostro

>>1063877
They do make tailgate ramps for getting bikes into trucks. That, or just a good squat-clean - bike's only about 100lbs and I've pushed it up stairs and hauled it over weird shit before, albeit clumsily.

As for the Element, yeah that'd definitely be conceding some function but for my needs it's probably about as off-roadable as the weird old Soob I currently have.

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>>1063499
>Owned 7 Subaru.
More proofs that Subaru is disposable vehicle

>>1063564
>unimog?
Oh gods, no!

>>1063847
$4000 for a cummies swapped 60 is absolutely amazing. Get it.

Even if there are mating issues, it could be worth it if you can fix yourself. Also, if it's really clean too.

>>1063263
Forester, because they're made by Japs, not Mexicans.

>>1063976
>Disposable
Only if you drive them in an area that salts the fuck out of the roads in winter. In humid and desert/arctic environments these things are great.

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Wtf I hate Subaru now

>>1063980
Yes, that is the new unimog.

>>1063682
Whatever you do, don't buy a 100series.

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>>1063564
that's a Nissan with a Merc body kit

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my 4Runner

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>>1063766
The interior looks fine to me.
All I want is a soft touch dash that doesn't feel like plastic and MBTex seats.

>>1065275
Those tiny ass windows must piss you off so much.

>>1065043
yeah no thrashing an EA81 off road (even the BRAT) is a great way to ruin the frame

>>1065816
well, unless you do shit like lifting it and basically making it a new car

>>1063601
>IFS
>downside to anybody not talking about a dedicated, not-street-legal, enthusiast-tier rock crawler
IFS is the best thing that's happened to trail vehicles since the invention of tubeless tires. Anybody saying otherwise either hates their kidneys or has never been off pavement in a SFA vehicle.

>>1065817
>>1065816
Lifted with mud tyres would make it fucking incredible offroad though, that tiny ass frame could go anywhere.

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>tfw got a nice sensible s10
>tfw seeing manual k2500 with 5.7 and manual f250 with 460 in my price range
fug

I can't drop that kind of money on gas but I'm kinda tempted anyway desu

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why isn't /out/ improving its game up?

>>1067418
What's the point? Isn't that what the GLE class is for?

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>>1063872
I have an E and love the shit out of it. I have plans to do the Ursa Minor Ecamper mod soon, pic related.

>>1067418
Because the only vehicles that will fit what I need them to are the extended frame SUVs and fullsize truck.

Cant exactly fit a quartered bull elk, 2 adults, and enough shit to sustain cold weather backpack hunting 1000 miles from home in what's a glorified sedan.

>>1067476
Son, the trunk of an E-Class Sedan will fit all of that shit easy.

The Estate version?
Larger volume and more usable cargo space than a Suburban.

>>1067506
The trunk of an E class can't even fit a single elk antler, much less 4, 90L coolers, 2 70L backpacks, 2 bows, a tent, and 20 gallons of water.

In fact it wont fit just the coolers.

>>1067508
How big is an elk antler?
I'll measure the trunk of my Taxi right now.

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>>1067476
Nigger if you carry all that shit you should get a pinzgauer

>>1067512
Ranges from about 3 to over 6 feet long, has between 3 and 7 tines, and is compound curved so can be up to 4 feet wide.

Most people shoot 5x6 or 6x6 elk so call it an average of 5.5x3.5x3.5 feet

>>1067516
4' wide, 4' deep, and 20" high.
Probably not big enough.

With the rear seats folded, you gain 3-4' more in length.

I can fit luggage for 4 people (people included) with room to spare in my sedan.

The Estate is much bigger.

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>>1067533
Not sure how well this will illustrate just how big an elk head is. This is a 5x5, it was my first, and many people would not shoot one this small.

Those are 8' ceilings.

>>1067585
How do I get into elk hunting anon?

>>1067515
Not street legal here in the states.

>>1067585
Stop killing wild animals, Jamal.

>>1067586
First off, do you live in a state that has elk and allows elk hunting? If yes, find a local to teach you. If no, you're pretty much stuck paying an outfitter to guide for you.

Nonresidents hunting on public land or paying a trespass fee to hunt on private land unguided have VERY low success rates.

>>1067588
There's ways around that.
https://youtu.be/aKP8F7Xk_cQ

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>>1067589
No

>>1067593
>$20,000+ for a 30 year old vehicle
>it gets 4mpg
I'll stick with my Chevy 1500 and its 21mpg highway, thanks.

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>>1067593
>just get a Pinzgauer!
Fuck you

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>>1067593
>just get a Pinzgauer!
Eat a bag of dicks

>>1067607
>>1067606
Y r u so triggered?

>>1067624
Why do people recommend 30-50 year old vehicles that cost as much as some new trucks and more than almost any 5 year old used full-size truck that doesn't come with heat, A/C, power steering, power brakes, or seatbelts and tops out at ~80km/h and thus can't be driven safely on most interstates or legally on most Western interstates that have 55mph minimum speed limits, all while simultaneously requring a total and usually expensive overhaul and another $3000-5000 in parts to even be street legal, and also getting worse fuel economy than a fucking main battle tank?

They are shit tier vehicles that got phased out of military service from one of the poorest militaries in the Western world 25 years ago for a reason.

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>>1063263
My trusty Xterra, Windy. I've put a lot of custom work into her over the last year I've had her. All of the lights are a godsend when in low light areas, like storing some of the Mrs' shit in our storage unit.

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>>1067652
Other side

I'm just waiting for the diesel version of the wrangler to come out... The torque I want. At the gas mileage I want...

That... Or Ford needs to hunker down and come back with the bronco.. Short wheel based bare bones true 4x4.. The only thing that needs to be fancy inside is the availability of large cupholders... Kek

>>1067675
Why don't America get the diesel yet?

In Europe we can get it with a 5 cylinder diesel sourced from an Italian tractor.
Same engine was in the XJ 20 years ago.

>>1067691
Yeah but then we lie on emissions to cover merkels fat arse.

>>1067592
Damn, I'm in Texas

Looks like I'll stick to shooting hogs

>>1065538
No issues with them at all actually

>>1067751
That's VW.

Also the thing is, this was an open secret. Everyone knew about it.

The German road tax system is based on grams of co2 per km, which is tested during the vehicle inspection every year or two.
When "scandal" VW cars were tested they all scored 20g higher than what's on paper.

>>1067691
Because nobody can make a diesel engine that meets EPA requirements for US use other than the American truck manufacturers. And while they're quite powerful and efficient for their size, they could be so much better without all the restrictive technology that keeps the emissions down.

>>1068128
Trucks and Vans are in a different category in terms of weight and use so less restrictions probably apply to them.

>>1068128
While I hate emmission laws because "global warming is real, cars did it!" I can also appreciate them.. Back in the 80s and early 90s when the medical community started studying the effects of direct contact of exhaust emissions on your health proved that it lowered IQ and other related health concerns to direct contact.. Inner-citys felt it the most. It also stunted puberty in children.. I'm glad for that. But I think they've gone too far.. Especially since electric cars are still so far from being a thing.

>>1067675
Waited a long time for that... Ended up with a 2005 Jeep KJ CRD

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>>1068184

>>1068184
What the fuck.
Those Jeep "Cherokee" have the same basic VM Motori engine as the Diesel Wrangler has had since forever.
If it can pass emissions requirements on one car it should do the same on another.

Why did you guys get a Diesel Cherokee/Liberty and not a Wrangler?
Makes no sense.

>>1068132
This is true, yes, but I don't see why someone like Toyota or Nissan couldn't put a turbodiesel V6 or I4 in something like the Tacoma/Frontier since, as a truck, they wouldn't be subject to as strict a requirement as a sedan would. They do it in the asian and euro markets.

>>1068147
>tfw we're AT LEAST 50 years from an electric truck capable of doing actual truck stuff
>tfw we're at least 200 years from electric vehicles having the range and refuel (recharge) times of fossil-fuel vehicles, and hydrogen-cell vehicles will never be safe enough for commuter use

>>1068121
Audi(vw group) just recalled a fair amount of vehicle.

>>1068185
Convoys look so fun.

>>1068188
Laziness on jeeps part? I don't really know. But the 2018/19 wranglers are being predicted to have the diesel version FINALLY. Along with the jeep wrangler having the pickup version again!! Finally!

>>1068188
I got a liberty because I live in the states and there are no diesel wranglers here. The diesels can't pass emissions here, or they couldn't... New ones are a little "greener" so the couple years. They out them in the KJs for two years as a test run and emission laws got tighter and shut that down. Diamler-Chrysler just started putting diesels into their Rams and jeeps again with a lot of success so I think some of the new Wranglers will have them... that being said... Fuck you my liberty is cooler than your out rig

>>1063291
Just got back from a trip to West Virginia. Borrowed my aunt's 2015 Impreza for the trip (I drive a Silverado that gets like 15 mpg). Had no trouble at all in the mountains, and I like to drive hard. Actually ended up at Spruce Knob, the highest point in West Virginia. Can't speak for older models though, this is the first Subaru I've driven, though I have to say I'm impressed and might have to save up to get the '02 WRX I liked so much as a kid.

>>1063337
If you get good enough at rev matching, you don't wear the synchros. I'm not, but if I had to spend thousands rebuilding my tranny I would be.

>>1068231
>50 years
>200 years
I hate electric cars but those numbers seem pretty imaginary.
I just hope when the electric cars take over they still allow me to drive fun, fossil fuel burning, manual transmission having rear wheel drive planet killing machines.

>>1063263
'03 Civic I put an engine in myself. Rebuilt engine in a car that died at 100k miles for $600. I'm not really into offroading, for the most part I just park at trailheads/the side of the road and walk to where I want to be.

>>1069697
Please explain why you think those numbers are off.
>electric truck
Current electric motor designs have to pick torque or battery life. I can see a diesel-electric hybrid doing okay but in order to get the torque necessary to haul significant weight you'd slaughter battery life. And current electric motors are ~80% efficient, so while they can be improved they can't be improved enough.

So unless there are humongous breakthroughs in battery energy density and weight, not happening. And there aren't any on the horizon, batteries are a mature technology (lithium ion batteries were commercialized in like 1898).

>>1069690
I'm at that stage now, just a little bit of a tap when shifting and it's all good.

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>>1063976
I still own 3 of said Subarus. The best one being a 1974 DL that could probably live out the apocalypse. Too bad it was only FWD.

Rest were sold to other people that enjoy Suburuing :^)

>>1069767
There also wasn't really a pressing reason to work on better batteries until relatively recently. Now that renewable energy and electric cars are limited only by energy storage, more people are looking at solutions. For example, John Goodenough recently patented a solid-glass electrolyte battery that he claims significantly improves cost, safety, longevity, charge time, and energy density. No reason to think we won't see more solutions in the near future given whoever comes up with one will be insanely rich.

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A couple big cargo cases fit nicely in the back for all my gear and is long enough to sleep in under the tarp, super comfy

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All I have to /out/ with

>>1070569
pls stop throwing acid and robbing people's bags

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My UAZ 469B

>>1068352
It's great, we usually camp a couple days or if it's a shirt trip we just find an awesome place to grill

>>1065046
WTF I hate unimogs now.

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>>1063564
not buying the real mercedes ute

>>1070262
Where is this? Looks comfy.

>>1070262
hows the distance on those lights?

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3rd gen 4runner
>4x4
>locking rear diff
>5vzfe is solid motor, easily over 300k miles
>back glass rolls down
>cozier than cherokee in same price range
>shares parts with tacoma without paying taco tax (unless in PNW)

Picked one up for under 3 grand and it's been my favorite vehicle to drive so far. Super easy to work on and forums are actually helpful.

>>1070882
>memelux
>tin shed
>RHD
>bull bar
>eucalyptus


Either Australia or New Zealand

>>1063263
All depends on what you want to do. If you're like me, hauling full bee hives into the backwoods and back, none of those cars will work. However if you only need it to carry your equipment to trekking parking spots near the highway, all of them can do that.

From what I hear, the foresters are pretty good cars (several hunters around here drive them, and the only complaint is that they are to long and low for the less maintained tracks). However, you have to be aware that they are pretty much useless offroad, best they can do is gravel or dirt roads. Still, out of the cars you listed, it's probably the only one that will get you out and back all year long - the others look like they'll get stuck in the first pothole.

Getting a manual is definitely the right decision, automatics are terrible to drive off the road.

If you're looking for a serious outdoors vehicle, I'd recommend a Suzuki (or Maruti, depending on where you live) Samurai or Jimny. They are somewhat small, but have offroad capabilities comparable to a Unimog or HD Landcruiser.

Also, looking at surplus vehicles might be an option. while military vehicles are usually mostly geared towards carrying capacity, they still posses above average offroad capabilities and quite a bit cheaper than their civilian counterparts (were I'm living, you can get a military G class for 7000€, less then half of what a civilian one from the same series would cost in comparable condition).

>>1067633
>Why do people recommend 30-50 year old vehicles that cost as much as some new trucks
Where the hell do you live that Pinzgauers are that expensive? Pinzgauers in top condition (restored and all) go for around 10000 in most of europe, the rusty beaters more like 3000. Even crappy pseudo-SUVs like the Dusters are more expensive, with the cheapest comparable vehicle (UAZ bus) still costing 20-30 grand.

>>1070926
In the US of America, the Benzgewher is a "rare" meme so it goes for meme prices.
Just like the Toyota Memelux.

Meanwhile in importers in Holland and Germany are selling fresh off boat Mustangs for less than they go for in the US market.

>>1070926
Murrica. Refer to the pic here >>1067607
For current US pricing.

Also realize these would not be street legal and would require an additional $3000-$5000USD conversion to be driven legally in public.

EPA just gave FCA the ok. "New" diesel engine options on the way.

>>1070882
Victoria, Australia
Alpine National Park howitt high plains

>>1070902
Pretty good, apparently 1 lux at 500m, spread good enough that i havent botheree with a lightbar

>>1067588
yes it is. saw one at the North Jetty Beach in fort Pierce Florida today carrying surfboards

>>1067652
why dont you put stuff in the storage unit durign the daytime...lol seriously

>>1071271
>12 and a half hour drive from where I'm at in SA

Well fuck.
Is at least decent for offroading?

>>1070917
Literally all things that can be found in European countries mate.

>>1071522
Not to get to that hut but the whole area is epic, just google biily goat bluff, zeka spur, b1 and b2 track, caledonia river track, you can spend weeks up there

>>1071525
Thinking of making the trip on Dec 1st to the Lake Mulwala Cod Classic this year, that's only a few hours drive from it, will see if I can hang around after and maybe travel a bit more east.

>>1071528
Yeh do it, all the tracks will be open and you can drop in from the north, bring a decent centrefire and smash a sambar while youre up there, heaps getting about.

>>1071530
Wait, you can legally shoot there? Don't own any guns atm.

>>1071533
Yeh man alpine national park is game on for deer only, might be closed for hunting in december-feb, check the GMA maps

>>1071547
Not only is it mind blowing you can shoot a gun legally in a national park, but the fact they have deer and snow, fuck me I've been in SA too long.

>>1070628
>EU plate
Wow you finally did it.

Looks like it's in nice condition too. Shines like a Dutch door.
How did the seatbelt thing work out?
I met someone who encountered a similar problem recently.

Trying to register a Ford truck from 1948, the inspection department told him it needed seat belts or else it would never be allowed on the road.
The tax department said it couldn't be classified and plated as a historic vehicle because seatbelts are a permanent alteration that goes against the vehicle's authenticity.

What is best /out/ car and why is it Mercedes?

https://youtu.be/-_6JDvuhUEU

>>1070234
I disagree. There has been a humongous demand for better batteries across all electronics markets since ww2 (so ~75 years), with very minor realized improvements.

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>>1063263
this is my /out/ truck

Where is the guy with the crazy lifted Toyota matrix? He always pops up in these threads

>>1071703
>horrible maneuverability
>super tall and wide
As cool as that truck is, there are so many switchbacks and low-hanging limbs on the logging roads around here, I think it would be pretty tough to offroad in that.

>>1071704
I'd like to see this as well.

>>1071562
And the high plain scenery is fuciking amazing

>>1071716
Just bulldoze them niggas out the way

>>1071717
I heard he's a member of some off road forums but can't find him either

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>>1063280
That's not a ute.
>>1063770
>ameriburgers still don't have utes

>>1071911
Nope, unfortunately everyone here is into huge pickups so they decided there was not enough of a market to sell those here...

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Fuck all your western gas guzzlers. Superior Subaru Sambar.

>>1074760
> lesbian rapist

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Finally took my ranger out on some backroads and up mountains. My shitty phone camera can't capture the immense beauty at this place.

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>>1074783
naice
if you look at it on a 90 degree angle, your mind makes it more resolved

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I want a Mazda CX5 but they don't really have the best offroad capabilities even though I'm not exactly much of an offroader. I might get one of these as a daily driver and get a different car for rougher conditions.

>>1075073
Get a Mazda B series instead then :^)

>>1075075
>Trucks
Yeah no, if I needed to lug around shit then I'd just get a Volvo V70

>>1063270

too bad subaru ruined the outback by turning it into a bloated, underpowered crossover

>>1075076
Get a Vulva XC90 and put a lift kit on it.

>>1075073
Crossovers are slightly lifted station wagons, not SUVs.

They have better ground clearance, and better traction but they are not 4x4s.
But do you even need 4x4?

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>>1065863
I beg your pardon

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I was looking at buying this beauty. Went to drive it and it had a few mechanical problems as well as interior things.
Literally my dream car and It would be a waste of money to buy this one. Fuck me

>>1075216
What problems did it have?

Do you get the TD5 in the US?

>>1075216
Disco IIs have electrical issues. That's why you buy two, one as a donor car and one as your main vehicle.

That's what I was going to do but decided to do something more autistic instead.

>>1075260
Yeah. But we also got the GM V8. Once the Land Rover injection system fails, you just have to go to the scrap yard and put a $100 carburettor on it for it to work again. Common problem, easy fix.

>>1075260
>>1075326
Shit with the drive shaft, electrical problems, and the interior wasn't that great. Whoever had it must have had a dog because they scratched it up in the back pretty good, the seats were good, but the roof lining was replaced with this weird plastic material that just looked odd. All in all if it was cheaper to buy and cheaper to maintain id think about it again, not for $5000.
Im pretty much looking for a car with this style exterior, that'll run good, and is good shape by the time I buy it. I don't want something I need to put a lot of effort in right after buying ya know?

>>1075335
I was looking at two Disco IIs (one with a bad engine) for $5000. Then I bought a land cruiser, lol. What else are you looking at?

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>>1063263
I have a 2008 Outback Sport. Got it as a daily driver for that AWD that will last forever and take me wherever the dirt roads will let me. Pretty roomy, used it to haul antennas when our humvees weren't able to be dispatched right after deployment and was surprised by how much i could fit with the seats down. Looking for some cool guy camping gear to attach to the roof rack. Bummed that I got a dent in the passenger side right above the front wheel on the first day I had it because some Mexican decided to merge into me and I've been too lazy to pull it out as its just cosmetic. Only complaint other than that is the Clearance on it but oh well, at least I take it /out/ unlike all the guys on post with expensive jeeps and trucks.

>>1070628
That looks beautiful man... I want some neat Comblock SUV to have for off roading. See pic related? http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/jeeps,-trucks-a-bikes-3/aro-246-302#currency=USD

>>1075336
I've been hunting for an SUV for like two months now and I've looked at a couple older Honda CRVs, the Disco II, and I'm going out today to look at a 04' Grand Cherokee. I can't be TOO picky, but I'm upgrading from an 09' Kia Spectra and I need something for possible offroading and harsh upstate NY winters.

>>1075161
Nah, it has AWD but I do most of my driving on two lane roads with some forest and gravel trails, but I'm wondering if it'll have enough clearance for some of the rougher trails I drive on.

>>1075164
>hits a 1" bump at 20mph
>bounces off the roof and 3 of the 4 doors as the truck rolls

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>>1075216
If you're in the US, go back an buy it. Landys are rare over there I believe?

Here in the UK they are common as muck, but I have a huge love for the marque and am on my second. Had a Freelander 1.8, died on me, now on a pre-Defender 110 2.5, pic related.

Bought both second-hand cheap, and both had a wealth of issues. All Land Rovers do, but if you're a DIY mechanic you can sort most stuff, and buying cheap leaves you money left over for professional fixes.

Long-distance overlanding I'd drive nothing else, save a Toyota Land Cruiser in parts of the world where Land Rover part sourcing would be an issue.

>>1075349
See below

>>1075343
Jeep ZJs are nice. XJs are cheaper and more plentiful. You can probably find a nice, lightly modified XJ for $4000 and some good offroad tyres on it.

The three main SUV platforms are nice, too. Tahoe, 4Runner, Exploder. They all have their own issues with lifts, drivetrain, interior, etc. But that's why they're all under $5000

>>1075385
They're rare, sure. But so are parts for the Land Rover. Those two cabin vents are $500 each here and no one has them in scrap yards so you gotta make your own. Same thing with the first and second generation Range Rovers. Mechanics are far an in between so if the computer one day crashes (possibly due to offroading mishaps) then you have a really hefty repair just to hook it all up.

I used to love the defenders and series IIs until I got in one. Can't be comfortable on road on them and they eat up almost as much gas parts are way too expensive throughout the America. Though, they do have their benefits compared to the full sized SUVs. I'd take one overlanding for sure. G-Wagon, Defender, or FJ70/80.

>>1075394
That's oba ly the main reason why I'm probably passing on the Disco, the parts and maintenance would be awful, especially on a vehicle that's already got some minor issues.
Im pretty much narrowing the options down based on what I'm reading on here from others, and my own dumb ass pickiness.
I like the Land Rover body style A LOT and of the color is white its preferred, but when it comes to interior and audio shit I don't mind anything as long as its intact and not in shambles.

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>>1075405
The 04' Cherokee I looked at today

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>>1075408
Another Cherokee I'm going to check out

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>>1075394
Oh yeah I won't lie, she's not comfortable for driving long distance, although I have fitted Range Rover Classic seats so it's a bit more bearable. Still, will be driving London to Santiago this winter across the Pyrenees, planning on reporting on the experience here. All rear seats removed so room for ~1200 litres of gear, or 2 people lying flat. Thinking about fitting shelves etc.

The series/early defender models are definitely for serious enthusiasts, Disco II and late-model defenders would make more sense in America with the parts/compatability issues. If you want a cheap, functional 4x4 I would recommend a Freelander I, although it might not last that long. Freelander II, Disco IV/Sport, late model Range Rovers are all fantastic vehicles, but not really offroaders now, more status SUVs.

I understand you on the parts issue mate. Even in England I never buy original Land Rover parts or from the company, it is silly money. Scrap yards/ebay/facebook are great though, there's a big Landy community in the UK.

If you can find a decent late-model Defender for less than 10,000 it's worth it, I'll fucking ship the parts to you just see one running off road in the US.

Pic is same 110, can't resist editing like a wanker

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This is pretty much how I plan to have my Hilux set up.

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>>1075418
in the future that is, it's not my hilux in the photo

>>1075405
I love Land Rovers too. Shame they don't like their owners... heh Get this one >>1075410. More information? Looks like locks and 33inch KO2s with a 3-4 inch lift kit.

>>1075414
>decent late-model Defender for less than 10,000 it's worth it
Try 30 000. That's the USD pricing around here. If you find one for 25 000 mint (which they almost always are since muh aluminium), you can easily resell it for 35 000 if you wait long enough and if you're in the right areas.

I have a Land Cruiser here that has a lot of part overlap and Aussie aftermarket everything. The Aussies source OEM grade parts for every single country that borders the Pacific Ocean, South America, and Africa. Land Rover simply can't compete with that especially in the states (or anywhere that isn't GB and Africa).

I may have a hook on a 110 Defender for $20k which I will get as a winter driver (because aluminium body) and probably sell it for $30k next summer when I bring my Cruiser back out after the engine swap. I do small overlands every once in a while and post them on /out/. How is the drive there? I just came back from Ireland and damn was I considering shipping over my LC on a crate for $3k and overlanding in Europe for two months.

>>1075414
Oh and seeing the Land Rovers offroad in Canada are a really, really rare sight. Even the ones built up, people just don't want to risk getting the computers wet or a ding on the body. Every ding costs you $100 and when you're doing offroading in a $35000 vehicle, that kinda stuff matters.

If this 110 works out, I'll be sure to be taking it /out/ with loads of pictures.

>>1075440
Yeah, it's only going for $3000 atm too. Gotta have the guy email me back and ill be getting more info about it.
If it drives and handles better than the 04' I'll probably pick it up sometime soon. Just want to get a good /out/ vehicle before it's too late to drive a few hours north and go camping for a weekend

>>1075445
If that lift was done properly, the tyres lift and roof rack itself is worth $3000. It probably will not handle better than the ZJ (partially due to XJ and mostly to do with the fact that it's lifted) so try and not to focus too much on that.

If you buy it and it's mechanically sound apart from normal XJ stuff (occasional offroad overheating in the desert, a/c randomly going off, small issues with power everything), it won't be a good /out/ vehicle. It will be an excellent /out/ vehicle.

>>1075368
>hits a bunch of 3 foot whoops in the dunes
>glide over them because muh 18 inches of travel
I think you have the wrong guy

>>1075513
>SFA
>gliding over anything, ever
Stop lying on the internet

>>1075394
I'm the Mazda CX5 guy, I don't really need anything as hardcore as a Jeep either but it would be cool to have as a secondary car if I'm going to places where there's really rough conditions.

I'm looking at something like a Toyota RAV4 too, they're not as sexy looking or fun to drive as the Mazda but it has a lot more cargo space, especially when you fold the back seats down.

>>1075571
>what is ultra4
>what is jeepspeed
Google so you don't look so dumb