Lost my shovel in the beach the other day when the tides came in. Had a pick option and I'm not so miffed since it was a Gerber one I got in a set and costed $10. I do a lot of driving in sand and mud so need a good foxhole digger / spade along with the full sized one. Thinking of getting this coleman one in
>pic related
What's a good option that you use? What other tools do you have besides your pocket knife and machete?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B4VRLOQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This one is actually really large, I liked it better than my coleman simply due to the weight you can put into it.
>>1049688
https://youtu.be/WT-JxTwwV7Q
hey op i found this rhe best shovel but its sold in japan and hard to find in stock to america when i needed it, i will get it later
>>1049763
>yo that shovel sucks dude bad choice
i couldnt get that other one so i got this, its actually very nice but it is heavy - the construction is great and its reliable
OUTON Military Folding Shovel
Link: http://a.co/2JFNXlU
>>1049688
On the guerilla growing forums these types of shovel have a really bad name for being cheap shit and not worth the effort. I bought 2 ex-nato entrenching tools, one for me one for my mate. We both and fucking love 'em. Used it on my RHS courses for tree planting, used to get some plants out into my guerilla patches for a few years, was the shithole shovel for a group camping trip on a rockbeded hillside and dug my landie out of the snow with it and now stays in the jackbox under my boot. I love mine but cannot coment on longetivity of other brands. ExNatos are solid and probably not ideal weight for some of you guys.
not my shovel but werry good rittle shovel https://youtu.be/b60OZhrTB6o
https://youtu.be/b60OZhrTB6o
>>1049688
>OUTON Military Folding Shovel
>>1049775
sry added wrong link last night
> http://a.co/8crTecD
> http://a.co/b79UJ61
the good folding shovels are all made by the same company just wholesell to random places that add colors and logo so as long as u get one that has the type of solid bolt at the end like on the 5joy it will hold up - by try to pay like 30$ most are way jacked up in $$
>>1049763
That's the exact same fucking one I lost.
>>1049775
Are picks necessary?
>>1049792
Hmm. I suppose if you hit a large rock or something. My original one had a hard polymer thing that bore most of the force when you struck it on objects so I was always kinda hesitant to deal with that shit. Hmm.
Why not just get like 2 or 3 bad shovels and a good one later?
>>1049688
One of the better outfitters on the market is a place called "Viking Outfitter", they've got pretty much everything for camping explicitly. Don't get a shitty camping shovel from Walmart, you want one of these guys and it only costs 10$ more so.
https://vikingoutfitter.com/collections/misc/products/multifunctional-military-folding-shovel
>>1050723
fuck off
>>1050581
>Are picks necessary?
if the ground is hard and stony, you gonna need them for trenching.
I never thought you could overcomplicate a shovel until I thought
>hmm… I might want to have a light-ish, foldable shovel for gold panning
and went on amazon.
all those tacticool things with random functions and features that probably won't work anyways.
>>1051084
IMO simpler is better. The cold steel special forces shovel is my favorite. No folding, very simple, surprisingly light. Upgraded steel from the original but otherwise they didn't mess with a good thing. My only complaint is the shitty varnish they use on the handle; you have to strip it off and use BLO or tung oil or something.
(Also misleadingly named, it was the standard infantry space for the Soviet army. Spetsnaz made use of it, but it was never particular to them.)
A shovel is overkill for backpacking but it's great to have in my car.