Boat thread

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>>1039190
*BRRRRRRRRRRRRTTTTT*

>>1039205
hi /k/omrade

>>1039190
Its a fish blind.
You hide behind it and cast so the fish cant see you and get spooked.

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Since this is a boat thread, what should i get to take to mexico this winter.
I will be fishing the sea of cortez.
Thinking everthing from pedal kayak to zodiac with small evenrude to a small aliminum boat and trailer.
Any opinions?

It's called the fisher flipper.

It's a gift for shitty father in laws, it's weighted at the top to raise the center of gravity of the boat and make it more prone to tipping, but you just tell him that it's for holding the rod when your hands are full of beer.

>>1039239
Kayak is best boat, can use whenever and whereever. Also great for taking the long line out, don't recommend for diving, just kayak up the beach then leave the kayak on the beach when you dive in the rocks. Also fucking awesome for duck shooting.

>>1039190
Why does that look like its Photoshopped in there

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>>1039235
For real? If you need to cast, you will be so far away from the fish that you don't need that shit.

>doubt

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>>1039246
Agreed, kayak is master race

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>>1039249
Nice catch, that circle isn't actually there

>>1039205
I wish I had one of those programmed for jet skis.

>>1039696
>i swear if i could get within 1000 yards of a jetski....

Anyone here live on a boat all year round?
I was thinking of buying a boat, and soon i prob, wont have a place to live. So i was thinking of getting a 23-27ft sailboat. Rig it up insulate it and maybe try living in it.

There is a few marinas where i live and work which have kitted out their dock for this. (Showers, wc, washing and electricity)

Anyone here done anything similar? Or know anyone?
Any hints, advice, and general thoughts on this?

>>1039770
Do you have the money to do this?
How much is a slip where you live?

>>1039775

slips are cheaper than rent, but you also need insurance and haul outs like once a year and all the regular boat maintenance shit

>>1039775
Im looking at boats ranging from anything to arround 5000 usd. Boats go really cheap here. To rent a dock space variates from 600 to 900. This is a year with power and facilities. It depends where it is and you get discount if you sign up for longer.
>>1039778
I wasnt thinking about ins. Also how much do you think i need to spend maint.? I was thinking glassfiber.
Also; im a joiner and have most of the tools eq to diy.

The price for renting an apt in my city is 600-1100usd a month so i think its cheaper.
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>>1039807
Dude what city is this?
I might come and do exactly that and I have serous tools and woodworking skills.
Would love to live on a boat
How is the fishing where you are?

>>1039807
Correction. Renting apt is 900-1400 usd a month. A spot for the boat 1000-1400 usd a year

>>1039809
This is Oslo Norway. Im hoping to get some macrell in the fjord this summer. People say its good fishing, but i havent done it much

>>1039812
>macrell in the fjord this summer
You are living my dream anon.
I hope you do this.

>>1039809
My bigest concern is the winter. I was wondering if anyone has done this before?
In my head it sounds easy to insulate a boat,
And electricity is quite cheap here too i think.
Maybe i should start a boatliving thread later

>>1039813
Hehe, yeah? It sounds all dandy and nice in the summer. Im just a bit anxious about the winters, they are usually a bit harsh.

>>1039770

23-27 ft is tiny for a liveaboard. I had an Albin Vega and would spend months on it but at 27 ft it was cramped, i only had one inch of headroom over my head when standing up. You take three steps and that´s it. Three steps take you from the companionway to the heads and then you have to duck because the headroom drops.

Are you sure you can live in that year round?

Size does matter when it comes to boats and marinas, most charge a different fee for cruisers 30 ft and up. That´s why the Catalina 30 is the most popular sailboat ever, fucker is really 29 feet 11 inches long to exploit that loophole and so owners can pay a smaller fee. Cali marinas are full of them.

Living aboard is very affordable if you look around, i was spending 3600 U$S a year for the slip, electrical, water and wastewater hookups. Much cheaper than rent and utilities.

Haul outs usually run about 150-250 dollars both ways. Make sure you know your marinas regulations, they are different everywhere. Also look into renting a storage unit for when you have to haul out and find some other place to spend the night and store your crap.

>>1039817
Cheers. Thanks for advice.
The 27ft is the bigest im allowed whitout having to get a boat-licence. But i get what you mean.
Im renti g a eorkshop in a friendly old farmers barn, so i might be able to store the boat there if i need to. But that is a good idea to clarify or look into.
I think its hard to tell if i can spend a full year in such a small room. I have a van for storage too

>>1039822
*renting a workshop

>>1039190
>>1039494
What exact kind of boat is this? Looks absolutely perfect for my use

>>1039855
It's a canoe

>>1039860
Must be a very modern take on the canoe, I haven't seen anything like this where I live. I have 2 inflatable canoes but they are too risky for on board fishing in rivers and lakes.

>>1039190

SO WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING

>>1039770
>Anyone here live on a boat all year round?
It's very noisy. All night long you here "sploosh splash slosh rrrrnnnn splash eeee slploochs" You learn to appreciate 5 mph zones near the harbor or "no wake"

>>1039861
> a very modern take on the canoe,
I dunno about that. Flat transom canoes are almost as old as outboard motors, and the faux-lapstake hull treatment seems pretty retro hipster to me.

>>1039896
Thank you. did not think about this. Would you know how much noise i would be able to insulate away?
Ive done som reading on people insulating their boats but it sounds sloppy.
Mosr people use 1/2" thick insu.
But i was thinking more of 3".
Both inside and outside.

It probably wont take away the "splooch" sounds.

Ill keep this in mind

>>1039896
Those noises put me right to sleep.
Dont live onna boat if you are not salty

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>>1039390
>kayak
>not hammockanoe

It's like you want to break your mother's heart.

>>1040255
i dont personally live on one but i have a buddy who does. the marina he lives on is on the bayside so it is insanely quiet and almost no splooshy.
idk what its like at all in norway or if you even have this option but i would definitely consider it if i were you.
i like quiet when is leep

>>1039814
It's pretty easy (relatively speaking. Anything on a boat is just a little bit harder and more expensive than ashore) to insulate a boat. Be sure to get a bubble (inflatable plastic dome thing for the cockpit/aft deck area; really helps entry, exit, and helm checks in the snow) and hull agitators if your harbor freezes solid.

Also ask yourself what you honestly plan to do afloat. Not what you think you'll do, what you'll actually do. If you really and truly know for a fact that you'll be sailing at least every weekend go ahead and get a sailboat. If you really and truly just need a place to live that you can take out on the coast from time to time, go for a motor cruiser/trawler/whatever or a power sailer. A sailboat is relatively cheaper to voyage in at the expense of living space, while a motor boat can cost more to move but is usually far more comfortable to live aboard.

Also the "sailboats are cheaper" thing is kind of a myth. Rope and canvas aren't cheap, and turning them into lines and sails is a skill you're going to pay for with either an assload of your personal time or money. Engine work is also expensive, but in my experience is generally easier for the layman to learn than sail making. Sure, wind is free, but the more you use your sails the more often you have to replace them. I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, but having lived full time aboard sail craft and now a trawler, both are only as cheap to operate as you are educated.

Errata:
Get some solar panels or a wind generator, or both. In temperate weather you can easily run all necessary electronics for free, without buying shore power or running your engines.

Clean and paint your own hull, and learn to check and secure your own seals. It's a pain in the ass, but fairly uncomplicated. There's literally no reason not to do it yourself.

In the States anyway, off road or agricultural diesel is cheaper than marine diesel. Buy the ag stuff and carry it back with you.

>>1040346
>sitting upright in a hammock
Looks retarded. Also, that's not a canoe, it's a catamaran.

>>1040379
It's a hammock on pontoons you retarded cunt.

I live in New Zealand, we have some really good fishing here and I would love to ditch out of society, anchor up at random bays along the coast, fish to eat and take some fish back to town to sell for money to trade for rice and dried supplies+repairs and bills.

Is this doable? I have capital to outright buy a a nice 30+ft boat with sails, solar power and batteries and have a little nest egg left over and I know my way around a boat. That really would be living the dream.

>live in coastal town all my life
>never owned a boat
My family is gey. I've wanted a kayak for a fucklong time now though, I have no car so one of those kayak bicycle trailers would probably be my only option aside from carrying it to the water.
I've researched some kayaks but I don't know what to get. The Dagger Axis 12 looks gud but it's $900 dammit. Alternateively there's the Zydeco 11 for $600 but the skeg would be useful, no? I'd probably want to paddle in the ocean close to the coast more than ponds but sea kayaks are out of my league.

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Who /sup/ here my dudes?

I am very interested in getting a dragonfly or similar for fly fishing. That would be my main reason for getting it.

Any experiences ?

>>1039494
kek

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>>1039235
how ugly must one be to need this?

Anybody know anything about which inflatable kayak I should buy? Or a smaller sit on top non inflatable kayak for fishing in the Upper Peninsula?

https://touch.trademe.co.nz/motors/listing/view/1296278765

I'm seriously thinking about taking a look at it and going liveaboard, R8 my boat choice I guess?

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>>1039390
>kayak

Nope. They suck. Can't put a motor and 160 lbs of deep cycle marine batteries on one. Your range is limited and wind/waves are a huge issue. A canoe gives you similar portability and access with 10x the range and stability. Canoe is master race.

>>1042603
>paddling an open canoe in the sea

>>1040434
never fly fished from one but they are a whole lot of fun desu. i might just suck at kayaking but i can go a lot faster on them and it is a much better workout

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>>1042443
I'll give you my lower peninsula

>>1042443
I'd get at least a 12 footer if going on bigger water. the fishing setups are nice, but you can literally bolt/screw/rivet anything onto a basic one yourself to make it a fishing setup and actually put stuff where you want it.

>>1039855
It's a gheenoe. They have a couple different body styles. Very stable.

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>>1042603
> distance, wind and waves are a big problem for kayaks
>but not for canoes
Please stop posting.

>>1042603
Until you have to go on a portage trail.

I will say, a cheap Walmart canoe>>>> a cheap Walmart kyak

But...

A somewhat decent kyak made for what you're using it for will always be better than a good canoe. Faster, lighter more stable, besides if you are gonna put a motor on your canoe may as well just drive a small boat.

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Went on a two day canoe trip out to the Johnson key chickee in the Florida Bay with the boys

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>>1043157

>>1039770
Seems like when anons are losing their homes they always visit /out/ for hobo tips. How many on this board are about to be homeless?

>>1042603
sit in kayaks are top tier /cozy/

>>1043158
what's the price on theses?

>>1043213
No clue, our parents own them. We just finished senior year of high school and did a bunch of trips /out/ around south florida because we have a ton of time on our hands.

>>1042643
Therein lies my problem, I should have mentioned it earlier and I apologize for that, but I don't have the storage space for a 12' kayak, there's no way I could get one into the crawl space through the hatch in the closet. I'm regulated to slow moving rivers and inland lakes it seems, which I'm okay with. Inflatables no even worth the thought?

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>>1039190
>nobody has answered OP yet

Sponsor display?
Maybe a shade so you can see fish sonar screen

>>1043409
because its not a real thing
He does not keep seeing them
he is lie
he is photoshopper looking for attention

>>1043218
Richfag detected,
Never really too concerned about what things cost.
I always knew what everything cost growing up because I was worried my parents would go broke.
I always tried to talk them out of frivolous purchases .
Growing up poor is pretty stressful but at least now I never ever spend money on stupid shit I wont use.

>>1044146

That's not rich mate, that just regular middle class.

>>1040375
Thank you for the great all the great advice.

If a marina would freeze vompletely. Would that break the hull of the boat? Is there some whay to prevent this? I know they offer place in "bubbledocks" which i believe blow air down arround your boat. These are really expensive though.

Price wise it seems to be cheaper than living in an apartment.

But a lot of advice here. Much apprechiated

>>1044969
>>1040375

>and hull agitators
Do you have a picture of this?

>>1044576
Protip: If your dads a doctor, thats not middle class

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>>1043350
There are good inflatables and bad inflatables. I have an Advanced Elements and I like it fine.

Picture related, checking out the high water levels on Lake Ontario the other day.

>>1039861
>>1039878
It's a ghenoe. It's a micro skiff for flats fishing. Also the thing in the front is a knee brace for fly casting.

>>1044992

Whose said their dad was a doctor? Are you a poorfag or just a jellyfag?

>>1046214
Why cant I be both?

i still don't know what that boat turret is.

>>1046234
Its not real, OP is making a joke

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>>1039190
>cant believe no one knows what it is....
>where am I?
>oh yeah...
>/out/

its a stripping basket for fly fishng. people used to use plastic kitchen trash cans now they use these. makes a good place to stick your rod as well. theyre not cheap.

>>1040434
we have 2 sups and fish off of them..great fun.

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>>1039494

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>>1042603

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>>1039390
god tier small boat

>>1039190
thats the crows nest

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>>1042603
please stop. canoes are for children and dweebs.

>>1039770
YouTube: Tula's endless summer

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Fuck kayaks. Get urself a skiff!

>>1040434
I'm planning to get into sup. I don't fish but want to get relaxed on the water.

>>1048973
fuck boats
get a life jacket and float

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>>1048973
This man speaks the truth, if you live anywhere with a decent amount of semi protected water, some sort of cheap skiff is way better than any kayak or canoe, being caught in a 2-3 foot chop sucks ass if you have friends that' can't canoe, plus being to go to more than one fishing location in a day is nice.

>>1048537
I see $15,000 on that boat.
Not including the value of their organs.

>>1043111

This. I've landed an RTM Abaco SoT in eight feet of breaking surf with no problem. Try that in your canoe and tell me how you get on.

>>1042603

Lots of people put electric trolling motors on their kayaks.

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FYKB: fuck your kayak bitch!

16'5" skiff master race checking in...

>>1049093
Lots of people are dumb too...

Any good boat buying guides out there?

>>1049419
Not really, what type of boat are you going for? I may be able to give you some pointers.

>>1039190 I'm surprised nobody has answered this yet but thats a stripping basket for fly fishing. On big casts you'll get your line tangled if you're not careful. That style of boat is based off the Gheenoe and River Hawk platforms.

>>1043158
ive paddled up and down the hahn river with my boys in korea used the same fucking canoes man...thanks for bringin me back

>>1043213
ascend c14 goes for about 499.99 if i remember rightly at bass pro.

>>1049519

So how does it work?

>>1043213
400-800 depending on length, material, make, and whether or not you buy it used or the place you buy it new from is running a sale or not.

>>1050428
When you're fly fishing you don't reel line in to work the bait, you strip it by hand where it accumulates at your feet and is basically a gigantic tangle waiting to happen.
But if you strip it into a basket, not only is it LESS of a gigantic tangle, that gigantic tangle is now movable, so if you have to do anything else, you don't ALSO have to negotiate around a big puddle of fly line, you can just move the basket and do what you need to do.
Looks cumbersome, actually very handy.

>>1042603
For lakes and slow moving water, canoes are the best small boat. However, a sea kayak (sit in with a spraydeck, not one of those retarded sit on top fishing turds you buy at walmart) is far better for the ocean, and whitewater kayaks are great fun on a river.

>>1040434
Just get a canoe. SUPs are fun as a novelty thing, but they're slow as fuck, tiring to paddle any serious distance, and you'll fall if there are waves/wind/you need to move around a lot whilst standing up (you will if you're fishing)

High quality specialty kayak for your specific need > good canoe to do almost everything > budget/jack of all trades kayaks

Canoes are more useful 80% of the time, but if the other 20% is what you're interested in then finding the right kayak is going to make you happier.

>>1050466
Thanks anon

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>>1039390
>>1039246
fuckyall moths trump all

>>1039807
buy a moth

>>1039896
lived at sea for months

>>1040346
fuck you moths are hammocks

>>1040354
I think you learn to love the sounds, on a sailboat you hear the line bang against the mast and it starts to be a peacefull sound

>>1040375
All vessels are expensive to maintain, the bigger the vessel the more expensive it is.

>>1044969
My buddy's dad owns a marina in northern Minnesota and he had someone winter in their boat last year. I don't know how comfortable it was but they survived.

They pull the boats and docks every winter so they had it on stands and taped styrofoam to the hull for insulation then wrapped it in plastic.

If someone were to do it I'd recommend getting and installing a wood stove for sailboats. Butt, I love in northern Minnesota so it gets colder sometimes.

>>1049519
This. Stripping baskets really help with line mgmt, especially when decks aren't clear. Successful fly fishing is all about line management. I have several.

Sup /boat/, I am looking at getting something to live board, maybe a 30ft catamaran and living at anchor. I honestly know fuck all about boats but I learn quick and built my own house so I have host of electrical, carpentry and plumbing skills. How expensive is it really to maintain that kind of boat? The main people I hear complaining about the cost of boats are retarded boomers who pay someone an obscene amount of money to do shit in drydock. If I do all the work myself can I slash a decent chunk off the maintenance cost? especially with proactive maintenance and regular checks,having a cat also means I could beach it to clean the hull and anything else that requires a drydock. Any suggestions/advice?