UMM sweeties, why no /out/ car general?

>>1033776
ORVs harm vegetation directly through trampling, soil compaction, and pollution. All of these impacts can be devastating to an area of the forest by resulting in fewer and less vigorous plants, reduced plant cover, lower plant diversity, adverse changes in plant species composition, and disruptions to natural plant succession and nutrient cycling processes. The loss of vegetation results in increased soil temperatures, with negative impacts to soil fauna, soil fertility, nutrient cycling, and hydroponic processes. Vegetation loss also increases the likelihood of erosion. The erosion of soil caused by ORVs impacts vegetation by exposing roots to potential damage and by covering vegetation on the downslope side of the eroded area.

Please stay on established paths.

I recently purchased a 2009 ford ranger FX4 and I want to lift it a few inches. I found some videos on YouTube that show a super easy and cheap way to do it. Basically all you have to do is instal some $60 brackets on the rear suspension and then Just crank the tension bars in the front suspension a little bit and you can get 2 easy inches of lift.

My questions is whether anyone knows anything about this method? Is this actually a viable option or would it damage the truck in some way or inhibit performance? Any information would be much appreciated.

>>1033810
it is exactly that simple. it will change your suspension geometry and wear your tires out without an alignment afterwards but not so bad.

>>1033776
>is 4x4 even required
Obvious /in/poster

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>>1033839
I've gone almost as many places with 2wd rigs vs 4. Good judgement, patience and skill are more important than gear.

>>1033776
>Portuguese vehicle
Where you at, filhote?

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>>1033776
My 1989 4x4 Centurion C350. Lifted 6 in on 37.5s. Gets me everywhere I need to go. The interior is great for /out/ because for whatever reason if I need or want to I could sleep in it

>>1033852
>no step snek flag

lol what a retard.

>>1033863
>hating on gadsden flag used before new homo connotation
What a retard I bet he doesn't even go /out/

>>1033846
I've gone more places with 2wd than 4wd because like most people I drive on blacktop mostly. But when going /out/, not /out/ to the local parks and forests where everyone drives, I am talking /out/ where roads get traffic once or twice a year by vehicles, you are going to hit spots 2wd won't get you through. Eventually you get to spots 4wd won't even get you through. Snow fills deep ruts that you won't see. Add in above freezing conditions and rain and they are slopholes that you can't get out of but couldn't be seen because of fresh snow cover.
That's when a winch, good tires and lift kits come into play. Lift kits are general faggotry but get bottomed out deep in on a minimum maintenance road where only a track machine will pull you out, you'll learn fast.

Get 10 ply tires, not that 4 ply shit. Last thing you want is a flat 30 some miles out.
Remember to have every tool you could possibly need and any replacement parts you could possibly need.
Was in my /out/ing spot, weather was below 0°F, 15 miles from a town of 300 and blew a spark plug. Can't run a vehicle with a blown spark plug, at least if you want the vehicle to last past that drive. Turns out it's a very common problem with that make and model. It happened a month before as well. Should have had a spare and the tools but didn't.
30 some miles out on a minimum maintenance road trapping beaver, and got a flat. Didn't have a jack or the tool to lower the spare from underneath the bed. Lessons learned.

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>>1033874
yawn. whatever you weird larping queer.

you should probably add some light bars so you don't get lost on your weekend overland from mall to mall.

>>1033776
Car camper detected.

>>1033892
lol good try

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>>1033846
>>1033889
I have a 4WD with 10-ply tires, but rarely use it. Often you drive a hundred of miles on the pavement, but only need the high ground clearance for the last couple miles. That's why I drive pic related for most /out/ings. It gets more than twice the gas mileage compared to the 4WD, and is a lot quieter for the long part of the drive. I have driven it on very questionable roads, very carefully, and haven't had a problem yet. The trick is knowing exactly the width of your vehicle and where the tires are going to within an inch. When the road gets really tough, pull the mountain bike off the back and keep going.

>>1033776
Lol wtf is that, it looks like a land rover hate fucked a pug dog

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1WD > 4WD

My 4WD has a lift, winch, lockers, meaty tires, etc and I still prefer 1WD.

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>>1033926
It an UMM, a portuguese developed and made 4x4 vehicle. A fair amount of them were produced during 80s and 90s. They were adopted by some firefighter and military units and also by the agricultural sector. Unfortunately just like pretty much anything in this country it went to shit. Who cares for a successful economy when you can just go to the beach and enjoy the sun living on borrowed money.

>>1033933
This here seems like the best plan.
Use the 4wd to get you /out/, venture into the unknown on a bike to scope out shitty situations.

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>>1033776
>if 4x4 is even required
It is in snowy weather. I've seen FWD cars and even RWD trucks fail hard or slide into ditches even on paved slight inclines. AWD Subaru would also suffice I guess, haven't driven one.

Pic related is my '95.

>>1033776
>if 4x4 is even required

>>1033892
Where was this taken?

I have a 2000 XJ. I love it more than I ever loved my ex wife.

I'm more of an overland nerd and so I sleep in the back and pack my fly fishing gear in it.

I took my old Forster down trails jacked up jeeps wanted no parts off. Had cheapo knock off swampers on it and a set of chains to go with it. Still remeber back when I had a girlfriend that worked at a restaurant on top of Sugar Mountain. We had an ice storm and she called me saying she had to sleep at work because the switch back road was impassable. Well half a 5th of jack and a white knuckle drive I was at the restaurant to pick her up but she was too scared to ride home with me. Ended up spending the night with her and her co workers eating food and drinking booze.

Shit was cash to be honest, them were the days

>>1034263
Im considering an early 2000s forester.
Worth it?
Hows the awd vs a true 4x4?

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>>1034132
Bike's plated. Truck can stay at home in the driveway. Truck's for the winter toys.

>>1034168
4WD just means all four wheels spin. Laws of physics still apply, even in a subaru.

>>1034276
Tires mean more then anything. My WRX outperforms 99% of jeeps, suvs, other Awd cars, etc in the snow. This comes down to me having decent tires. The car will perform very well off road, but make sure you watch the mileage on the vehicle. The timing belt and head gaskets are the main huge issues. Otherwise, I'd trust one off road any day. Especially with a lift.

>>1034276
I loved mine, your gonna end up doing head gaskets since it's a fault in the engine design but if you're handy there is a tons of guides and how to's on the internet on how to do it.

>AWD vs True 4x4

This is a nonsensical question, Subaru is true 4x4 (well 2x2 since it's open diffs but so does most 4x4s). It worked great for me, plus foresters are comfy as hell and will take you anywhere. Make sure to get a model with the sunroof, it's huge on the Forester and really adds to the fun of driving it.

>>1034305
>Subaru is true 4x4
Can't be real 4x4 without low range.

>>1034310
>Criteria I just made up to fight on the internet

No

>>1034303
>>1034305
Well aware of headgaskets/timing belts.
No big deal for me.
Was concerned about ground clearance, lack of low range, fitting larger tires, lifting, and issues feeling underpowered.

>>1034313
>lack of low range
Not an issue for me, I had the 5 speed version and 1st was low enough for me

>fitting larger tires
Depending on how big you wanna go this will be a problem. I ran 215/70 R16s on my 2nd gen without issue but any bigger would need a lift

>lifting
Didn't lift mine so i'm not sure.

>feeling underpowered
Stock? It's not a issue, big ass tires it will feel under powered

If your looking to build a jacked up hard core wheeler then I don't think the Forester is the right platform for you. A nice 2nd gen Jeep Cherokee would be much better for that. Forester is better for something you want to drive everyday that can go down some nasty trails if need be.

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>>1034318
Nothing crazy

>>1034324
Yeah you can build them to be crazy but you can also build a gen metro to be just as crazy

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>>1034328
Oh i know

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>>1034359
I hope you choke on a penis.

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>>1033776
This is my /out/ vehicle, it gets the job done. I need to get the OEM fog lights and topper lights working though, still.

>>1034311
It's real.
Low range is the defining characteristic that sets a 4x4 apart from AWD.

>>1034400
Show me a single definition that backs up your claim.

>>1034402
AWD dont have a transfer case, therefore no low range.

Your subaru is AWD. It is not 4x4.
There is a difference.
Stop being so insecure about it.

>>1034438
>Show me a single definition that backs up your claim

Still waiting

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Currently fighting with the authoraties about my UAZ.
They say it's missing seat belts in the front but they don't wanna understand that its simply not missing seat belts, it ain't supposed to have them.
Seat belts in UAZ wasn't common untill 1996 and even then only on the civilian model.
the military ones never had any belts...

>>1033776
>is 4x4 even required
Depends on what you wanna do.

My 300C AWD got places my buddies' 4wd trucks didn't, because I was determined and (somewhat more) experienced.

If you're just dealing with snow the run-of-the-mill AWD vehicles with their LSD's do fine.

>>1034508
Pay the $30 to put a set of belts in then. Jesus.

How does /out/ buy a good used /out/ vehicle?
I was see on getting a new Tacoma, but now I'm thinking I should get something sub $10k and not have to worry about scratches or anything. What would you recommend? I like Tacos, Tundras, and 4runners but also f150s(not sure what engines are most reliable). Any other suggestions? What get?

>>1034526
Well, Toyota transmissions are gonna last forever. The tradeoff is that anything that isn't a Tundra is gonna have very little cargo capacity compared to its body size, and the transmissions are rough and inefficient for fuel economy.

I also believe the Tacoma and 4Runner are underpowered, although not by humongous amounts. I have a 2010 Tacoma and it's over-all a pretty meh vehicle that I paid way too much for.

It wasn't too many years ago that Ford was still using vacuum switches in all their trucks. They may well still be. They die frequently (significantly more frequently than "normal" switches), are harder and more costly to replace, and cannot be repaired. For this reason I am avoiding Ford products.

>>1034359
I'm pretty sure we have a gay board for people like you.

>>1034522
If they're installed, you have to wear them.

>>1034508
Can you get a letter from the factory to help maybe make your case?

>>1034522
Its illegale.
If i get pulled over with seat belts on in this car i will get a fine on around 1000$.
if the car is original with out seat belts then its simply not supposed to have any.

>>1034559
I think its just a misunderstanding.
Since its only 2 or 3 of these in my country including mine they might confuse it with other russian vehicles.
I have all the technical documentation and drawings to show them.
Im currently just waiting for an answer after i had to explain to them that seat belts in a military paratrooper UAZ469 has never existed or been mounted legally.

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Poorfag's boat rack

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>>1033933
Recently retired my truck for a dual sport as well, both for exploring and commuting, at least until winter. I absolutely love my truck but I'm already having more fun on the bike than I've ever had with anything else. Not only is it more capable off-road, it's insanely cheap on insurance and gas, which makes it so much more inviting to just get up and go without worrying about cost, you end up wanting to spend literally every free hour riding and exploring.

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>>1034816

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MY FERD

Fuck me this thread full of soft roading faggots

>>1034744
Wow. What country does that?

>>1035115
Every single euro one.
And if there is another passenger or worse - a child you will have to appear in court and your license will be suspended for sure.

>>1034454
It's been a day or two since my last reply.

I hope by now you've been in your car, looked at the single shifter, and come to realize how wrong you were.

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>>1033776
oh look. an official /out/mobile thread. naice. here's my contribution today.

the problem is that the average sc/out/ doesn't always know /out/mobile maintenance and general information whereas the average /o/tist can add to the thread by knowing specifics about parts or how to maintain. then again, I also didn't expect the /ORG/ (the out thread on /o/) threads to really take off either.

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>>1034454
>>1034438
>>1034402
>>1034400
Guys wtf. 4x4 can be "full time" or "part time" four wheel drive. The "AWD" (sometimes written "full time 4wd" in older models) designation means it has a centre differential before splitting power. 4x4 means it has 2wd, 4wd, and 4-wd-l. Low just means it locks the centre differential using the transfer case. Subrau "low range/ centre diff locks" are dependent on the model.

There?

I am planning on saving up some more $ and sell my 2008 elantra for something that can:
>Take me around the country
>potentially live out of fairly comfortably
>dependable and will last a long time
>Not a VW
>Cheap, buying used

>>1035764
isn't this a type of question for /o/? isn't this entire thread for /o/?

>>1035764
Snag a Chevy or Ford work van (E350/E3500), throw a mattress in the back.

They both have optional part-time 4WD with good LSD's and low, some years were available as diesel if that appeals to you, and they'll basically do anything short of enthusiast-tier rock crawling or mudding with a competent person behind the wheel.

>>1035774
any 4x4 van costs at least $10k around here because everyone wants them. the non-rusty ones are $15k and they all make you look like a serial raping killer.

>>1035775
Still cheaper than a truck-frame SUV that's 4x4 and in decent shape.

Only other real option for cheap is a used pickup and a topper, although those aren't exactly the pinnacle of comfy sleeping in the bed and they take a pretty big fuel efficiency hit compared to a work van.

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>>1035774
>>1035777
4x4 vans are rare to find - especially the smaller ones. they don't take lifting much easier but do haul ass for what /out/ wants/needs so i approve trying to find one.

truck frame SUVs are quite common but you're right about the bad condition that always plagues them. parts are cheaper and easier to find and they're easier to drive since they're optimised for driver and not cargo.
around Ontario (onterrible), you can find decent (mechanical condition, not aesthetically) 4runners, xterras, explorers, tahoes etc for under $5k.

Or you could just go with the /ORG/ meme of the Land Cruiser or Chevy Suburban / Ford Expedition.

>>1035779
You're not sleeping comfortably much less living comfortably in a 4runner/Xterra/Exploder or any other "mid size" SUV, even with the rear seats totally removed, full stop. They may be competent offroaders but they are small.

Expeditions and Suburbans (or if you're willing to get 11mpg and deal with a 15+ year old vehicle, Excursions) work, but would still be pretty cramped living compared to a work van.

If I'm remembering correctly some of the old conversion vans were offered with 4x4 as well, although you're REALLY gonna hurt on gas mileage as most of them had carburated big block V8's, and haven't been produced in long enough the interior would most likely require a total overhaul.

I will never understand why people like Land Cruisers. 10-year-old ones still sell for $45k near me, and they're horrendously underpowered.

Another option would be to just fork out for an older van-based RV. Most of them were offered in 4WD, some of them even had lockers, and there's plenty of aftermarket for them since they're van-based. Although if you're worried about looking like a "serial raping killer" a 1980's Winnebago is probably worse than a panel van.

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>>1035786
You can sleep comfortably with an exploder or 4runner if it's just one or two people. But more comfortable if you get the taco or ranger as the 6ft bed is much more helpful (as you mentioned about a truck with a cap).
You just gotta choose 2 from the following: gas mileage, comfiness, offroad capability with mods.

Expeditions and Burbs just makes them less expensive starting out and eats gas as you go on. Work vans are worth waiting around for, sure. But I'm just laying out the options for the anon here >>1035764

And as a last blurb, the Land Cruisers are really damn comfortable off and on the road. The FJ80s are very reliable and have the pre2000s engines in that they're not very powerful but last forever. FJ100s are not worth jack since muh pigfat IFS and on-road comfort. Any land cruiser after that (105, 150, 76, 79, etc) is just an option to be really comfortable on the road as well as off the road. Tay yodas have the meme tax and worse, meme tax along with diesel tax. But if you have the money, it can definitely work very well. Plus you pay less for insurance for some weird reason.
>pic related
>comfort, off road capability, and soon to be gas mileage after engine swap

>>1033810
If you don't understand it, don't do it. Your entire life will be spent chasing various problems caused by a half-assed eBay lift in a box.

>>1035819
torsion bars only require an appropriate socket size to lift 3+ inches
that and a wheel alignment

>>1035795
>you can sleep comfortably with an exploder or 4runner if it's just one or two people
lolno. Not sure what the fuck's going on in that pic but my old exploder was exactly 5'3" from the back of the front seat with it in the full forward position to the trim on the back hatch, and the rear seats didn't fold flat (though they are technically removable). No fucking way you were getting a cot in there. And it's about 6" longer than a 4runner. Hell my current car, a 2013 Acadia, is under 5' from the back of the second row seats (they don't fold and are not removable without cutting the seat frames) to the hatch. And it's considered a "large" SUV.

So unless they made them roomier in the late 80's/early 90's it's not happening, and trying to keep a ~30 year old SUV running (remember, the requirement was "reliable") is enough of a pain as is.

>>1035838
Read the third paragraph again. That's my FJ80 Landcruiser in the related pic as i tried to explain part of their value.

The first paragraph I was just stating that I have found those truck based "mini" SUVs comfortable. Naturally, comfort is subjective but I also have a very high tolerance for that in general, hmm.

>>1035774
What makes you think you even need 4x4?
Vans have decent ground clearance already.
Get a locker and set of Coop grup spurs.

>>1035027
Post your car then, m80.

>>1035857
>what makes you think you even need 4x4?
The "take me around the country" line. Even if you stuck exclusively to paved roads the odds of needing it in parts of the US are high. Like Wyoming and Montana.
>tfw got legit stuck in the left hand lane of I80 in the summer due to a MONSTROUS pothole I couldn't avoid because of a dickbag semi
>vans have decent ground clearance already
Some do, yes. However the newer or smaller work vans are pretty low for fuel efficiency and almost all of the conversion vans/minivans are as low or lower than most sedans.
>get a locker
Lipstick on a pig if you don't have 4wd. Pretty much anything you can get stuck on is gonna be slick enough you'll just scrape tread off your tires instead of crawling out without the extra traction from a second set of drive wheels.
>grip spurs
Because halving your fuel efficiency and totally ruining the on-road ride is totally worth it for anything other than an enthusiast tier mudder, right?

>>1036296
I would but it would break your vagina by just looking at it

>>1033933
KTM?

Bought a 50cc ATV because I'm a poorfag and driving offroad is here is pretty much illegal. It's a stupid thing to do anyways, destroying vegetation n sheeeit. I just want a cheap vehicle to take me to my fav trails

>>1036656
>destroying vegetation n sheeeit
I'm sure the babby skvirrels and the "environment" appreciates your 2smoke multi terrain motozingler billowing out grey smoke at 97decibingels.

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I drive a Suzuki carry, it's handy as fuck and runs off whiskey breath. Its enough off-road for me, anything more and I'll usually take along my xr125. Any more and I'll just park the car and walk.

>>1033791
Get fucked queer

>>1034957
Nice Exploder

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Bone-stock 1985 4Runner. It handles really well offroad/on unmainatined roads. I'm thinking of either basically "restoring" it to how it would have looked off the lot or putting a 3" lift in it.

>>1036711
Wow a bone stock, mint 4runner. Those handle better than the 60s off road (maybe not the 62).

See if someone in Colorado will buy it for $15k. They can fetch that price nowadays with offroaders who have too much money / time on their hands.

>>1036690
I have a 47 year old Honda thats just a bit smaller than that.
Powered by a little 360cc air cooled fourstroke with 5 speed gearbox.

It's great for tight parking.
I just go in the space headfirst, then lock the steering so the wheels don't move.

Then I get out of, lift the truck from the back like a wheelbarrow and position it.
No messing about reversing, it saves years of wear from the clutch, and gives me a 30cm dick.

>>1036711
I'd keep it original as possible.

Doesn't look like it needs much restorating. What did you have in mind?

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>>1036551
Orange bike best bike.

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>>1036714
Has some exterior stuff like spot rust and some paint that needs to be touched up. The interior needs some cleaning and stuff.

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>>1036734
Jealous, I want to try a 500 EXC so bad.

>>1036739
Always wanted one. Till i drove one. It doesnt have enough power to get out of its own way.
Such a waste of an otherwise good vehicle.

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>>1036772
Its trash if you can't build an entirety new bike out of $4 of parts. xr125 is best bike.

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>>1034168
I've gone the past several winters without using 4wd unless towing something or going properly offroad-not dinky gravel roads.

>>1036679
I only drive on paved/gravel roads

>>1034293
>4WD just means all four wheels spin
No, it means all 4 wheels are/can be powered by the engine. All cars have all four wheels spinning, otherwise your car is broken.

AWD is just better for putting down power when a tire might be slipping. You get double the contact area with the road (assuming the same tires) with which you can transmit power from engine to the road. You're in a FWD car and your front tires get stuck in snow and can't find enough traction? You better get out and push or dig. AWD does nothing for braking distance though, which is why you see overconfident/stupid Subaru drivers off on the side of the road more often than any other cars in winter.


>>1034168
The sliding as you've described is due to bad tires (likely all-seasons which are useless on snow). Any car on snow without proper snow tires will slip.

>>1036791
I was considering a V6, but I wanted one with a solid front axle. So far it has exceeded my expectations, and has gone everywhere I've wanted it to both on and offroad.

>>1036791
I rented an 81' 4 door with a 4cyl diesel and front bench seat while on vacation.

It was slower than the proverbial slow balls, but always had enough power on low gears to unfuck itself from a situation.

You are never going to overtake anything though.

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cruiser or kys

there is no other option

>tayfag pls go

>>1036953
The V6 is slow as fug too
>>1036963
It may never get stuck.
But its totally useless as a DD.
Shit MPG in town
Can barely move its self to freeway speeds.
On the bright side you wont ever need to pass anyone, since they will all pass you.

All while you pay $6000 to be totally useless.

>>1036791
That's par for the course for any Toyota that isn't a sedan. Even the old V8 4Runners had shit acceleration and got squirrely over about 70mph due to crude suspension and the aerodynamics of a parachute.
>mfw my 2008 Tundra with its 5.7L V8 accelerates significantly slower than my wife's 2013 Acadia with its 3.6L V6 despite weighing within 500lbs of it

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My lil out ride, 05 Jeep Liberty CRD (Cherokee to everyone not in the US) small lift, custom roof rack and a few dependability mods to the engine. Gets 22 MPG with the off-road tires and 25 with the street tires I use in my off seasons... Been a great all around ride for the last decade.

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Even works for getting the lil boat to those out of the way fishing holes

>>1037031
>Cherokee to everyone not in the US
That is not a Cherokee and do not compare that POS to the XJ master race ever again.

>>1037088
>XJ master race
>outperformed by a jeep renegade
off yourself

>>1037033
>>1037088
>heeps
Junk

>>1037096
>outperformed by renegade
In what? What possible situation can a renegade best an XJ?

>>1037104
getting stuck

>>1033852
purty.

>>1033921
Word. I put studded snows on my prius and it will go anywhere I have clearance for,

>>1036981
Dude, you may be being a bit over dramatic. Mine personally gets decent mpg in town (especially compared to my old car) and has no trouble getting to 80 mph on the highway. It's been good for literally everything I do, including driving to work everyday.

>>1036690
this is adorable

>>1037170
>>1037002
The 81 was a four speed and had no trouble getting up to 60km/hr 35mph. That was the best cruising speed for it.

You could maybe get it up to 80km/hr 50mph flat out but the engine wouldn't be happy running that hard for long periods.
This was with six people inside. (Thank you based bench)

I think the non-turbo diesels are much lower geared than the gas ones.
I'd be going just over 60kph/35mph and when I'd let off the gas it would immediately start to slow.
It needs two more high gears for safe highway driving. And a turbo.

>>1037192
Please don't say that, I work hard to cover it in pig blood and wood chips so my penis doesn't feel small.

>>1037249
yeahhhh....about that.

A top end of 80km/hr is too slow to even be legal on most interstates and some highways in the US (we have minimum speeds here to keep old people and yuros from clogging traffic), and is asking to be run off the road most everywhere else because you're clogging traffic going 30-40km/hr slower than everyone else.

And despite these apparently "much lower" gear ratios they still have shit acceleration, I should not have to floor a V8 truck to be going more than 10mph by the time I clear an intersection on a 4-lane road. And they still have shit transmissions, I should not be able to chirp my tires in overdrive with an automatic transmission coming out of a dead stop without flooring it on level dry pavement.

>>1037088
It's definitely not an XJ... But in every other country, this was jeeps continuation of the Cherokee... I bought it because it had a diesel engine and not some chrysler abomination under the hood... 10 years of basic maintenance and an alternator... I think it's doing aight.

ITT: Jeepfags trying to justify their retarded purchase.
Just buy a dirtbike or old hilux, or try walking for once in your lives.

>>1037292
>dirtbike
Can't put a deer/elk/moose on a dirtbike, even in quarters. For that matter you can't put one in a Wrangler, Liberty, or the newest Cherokees due to lack of cargo space without fully removing seats.
>or old Hilux
Not available anywhere on my continent unless you feel like paying $30,000USD for a 20 year old frame that needs extensive work and will never be street legal.

>>1037303
I'm the cunt that drives >>1036690
Handy for deer, can even fit a sambar in the tray.
But really though fuck Jeepfags, there's better and way fucking cheaper stuff out there. And yes you can carry deer, I carry reds on my xr125, wouldn't be able to do that with moose or elk but you can still do it. And if you can be fucked just carry it. Jeeps are trash, and no Jeepfag has ever needed to actually use a car off-road.

>>1037292
Jeepfag here... I just finished the Eagle rock loop for my second time this year 2 weeks back... I car camp, hike, backpack and go glamping/fishing constantly... Maybe you should just not be a dick and go back to trolling /b/

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>>1037308
How the fuck do you get a red deer on a dirtbike? Even a single quarter is gonna weigh almost as much as an xr125 and there's literally nowhere to strap it to.
>just carry it
lol. I doubt there's anyone on all of 4chan that could carry a whole whitetail or red deer much less an elk, and I doubt there's anyone on the planet that could carry a whole moose (any species of moose). Even a single elk quarter can weigh 100lbs, and moose quarters can weigh up to 200lbs.

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>>1035821
>Cranking torsion bars to get 3" lift
You'll likely be topping out the shocks on dips, hitting the bumpstops at least, and the bars will be tighter than a baby full of cheese. Are you fitting a front end replacement or a 12k winch?
Too bad this board doesn't have i.d.s Cheapfuckistan is a pretty rare flag.

>>1033839
My dad used to drive me to our cabin 50 miles off road, he had 4x4 , but I don't think he ever left 2wd

>>1033776
Are Subaru outbacks viable /out/?
I'm going to probably get one regardless. Are spacers going to fuck a subie up? Skid plates?

>>1037715
Outbacks are good for /out/. Mine's stock and works pretty well for logging roads in the Northeast and the like. There are great resources for bash plates and lifts and bull bars etc. for Outbacks. Definitely low on power sometimes with the 2.5L in an '05. But I'm happy with it for sure.

>>1037715
Forester is superior

>>1037769
Forester is lower, but lighter. It's a tradeoff.

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>>1034293
>4WD just means all four wheels spin. Laws of physics still apply, even in a subaru.
Ask me how I know you have never driven in real snow.
Pic related can take me nearly anywhere at speeds up to 65mph! And it gets over 12 mpg!

>>1037033
>>1037031
Normally I never cared for Liberty model, but I'm not gonna lie, the way yours is set up along with the all black color scheme is actually pretty badass. Now all you need is a good winch.

>>1037031
>>1037033
Looks a bit like Warthog from Halo.

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V-Cross is a damn good machine when it comes to going /out. Suspension is unlike any SUVs I've ever driven and feels more like a sports car. The only downside is it's a gas hog with 15 mpg in daily driving.

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>>1037787
>Ask me how I know you have never driven in real snow.
I actually lol'd at that comment.

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>>1037088
I appreciate the XJ love, but he's still got a bretty sweet Liberty. I know this is the only pic I've ever posted, but XJ crew reporting in. I need to take some more pics next time I'm /out/, doing a trip up to the UP in a couple weeks, I'll have some after that.

>>1037104
I am genuinely curious about this as well.

>>1037292
>Old Hilux
I'm a college kid who couldnt even afford a Wrangler; what makes you think I could get my hands on a Hilux, m8? And lel, a lot of us do things out of a vehicle as well, you just happen to be posting in a thread ABOUT vehicles, anon.

>>1037787
>At speeds up to 65mph!
I know this feel.

>>1037568
I have a woolfage sack that I carry my meat in, if I'm going to be carrying it on the bike then I'll debone it. Reds aren't too bad to carry, can normally make it a km before having a rest. But fuck carrying anything bigger. I carried a sambar back to the ute once, nearly fucking killed me and it took around 5 hours to go back the 2k.

>>1037929
I'll never understand why you yanks have pricey jap cars. Seems like the biggest market in the fucking world they're passing up.

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>>1037944
Don't ask me, anon. I wish I could have gotten a Hilux or some type of old Rover like a discovery or defender, but I'm not made of money. The XJ community is pretty cool though. I mean Mike's basically stock, but I still get the "Jeep wave" sometimes, and the occasional guy stopped at a light asking "what year?" Etc. XJs are cozy af.

>>1037829
Thanks man, I ran a Warn VR8000 for awhile but a buddy begged me for it so I sold it to him intending to upgrade and I haven't hammered down which to the get yet.

>>1037832
Never thought of that, but I got the color scheme about right haha

>>1037838
This thing looks mean. I like it dude

>>1037996
Thanks man. Now all I need is a good bull bar or a rock bumper.

>>1037877

Piss harder, otherwise you'll never win the competition

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90s diesel Hilux ftw. Gutless engine, but goes forever.

>>1037838
Those fuckers are the E30 of offroading; goddamn god's second chariot.

>>1038599
mynigga.jpeg
Nothing will ever beat a Hilux, they're quite literally immortal.

>>1038615
Thanks for the input, obvious American.

>>1038641
I'm not American though

>>1038653
Then you should know better.

>>1038703
Americans should know better too, since we've been killing people in them (and them by proxy) for the last ~15 years all over the Middle East, and using them as fobrunners that entire time.

They're humongous pieces of shit whose only redeeming quality is they will live somewhat longer than other vehicles with no maintenance, due to everything being incredibly crude and having an engine too weak to damage the transmission even when used improperly.

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>>1038778
>hiluxes are best vehicles
>only because their shittiness makes them so great
lmao

>>1038778
Youre not too smart eh?

>>1038798
Care to start refuting any of that?
>>1038788
In case you didn't get it from what I wrote and the tone in which it was written, I don't like Hiluxes.

>>1038802
Your entire argument was
>they are bad cuz they dont break down
Sounds like brain damage to me.
At least this guy
>>1036981
had legit reasoning.

>>1038812
No, my argument was they are bad because DESPITE taking a LITTLE longer to break down everything else about them is bad.

You don't read too good do you?

>>1038815
>its bad cuz i said so
>stop liking what i dont like
No. Youre just ignorant

>>1038815
Literally
>its bad cu its reliable
That's what you are saying.

>>1038818
>>1038819
fanboys, everyone.

Reliability means JACK SHIT if your truck can't do what you need it to do before it breaks. And the Hilux is the absolute least capable small truck literally ever made. It cannot tow, it cannot handle mud or dusty environments without extensive aftermarket upgrades, it cannot accelerate, it cannot stop, it has a lower cargo capacity than a hatchback, it has a lower person capacity than a 2-door sportscar, and it weighs half a ton more than every other small truck.

It's not really any more reliable than the literally dozens of other small trucks. While weighing more, having less power, having a rougher manual transmission or a significantly less reliable automatic transmission, and having absolutely ZERO creature comforts like a radio or AC/heat. Hell the last one I was in was a 2005 model year and it was never even equipped with seatbelts, much less airbags, and the entire electrical system would short out on a weekly basis despite being in the goddamn desert.

>>1038826
Lol what?
None of what you said is true.

>>1038826
>reliability means jack shit
Except it is THE single most important thing in any vehicle
>lists a bunch of lying extremes
Ok, so youre ignorant. We get it.
If you need a bigger truck, buy a bigger truck. Do you not understand the purpose of a light truck?

You sound like youre 12 and are trying to talk shit about something you know nothing about. So you lie to extremes to make it seem like its horrible.

Stop embarrassing yourself

>>1038830
biggest hilux haters are usually north americans who can't buy them in their country

Suzuki samurai or suzuki sidekick?

>>1035819
What a fucking retarded thing to say.

Yeah, I don't know anything about it yet hence why I'm asking you faggots for advice. Obviously I won't do it if the cons outweigh the benefits. What you're saying is fucking retarded though. You're implying that whenever you encounter something you don't understand you just immediatly give up and forget about it. Well unlike you, I'm not autistic and am perfectly capable of learning new things so when I don't understand something I do research until I do understand them.

Also fuck off, pretending like lifting a car is an immensely complicated thing that most people can't do. I know for a fact that's not true

>>1038826
>It's not really any more reliable than the literally dozens of other small trucks
This is what I was getting at.
Hilux reliability is a meme because Top Gear.

Every light truck from the 80's and 90's is reliable and has something it excels at.
Except the Hilux, which excels at being average and "safe".
It's just good marketing. Like Volvo.
When you hear Volvo what is the first thing that comes to mind? Safety.
Toyota? Reliability.

Mitsubishi L200 - Most robust drivetrain and frame, most luxury options, easily tuned for power, best for towing.
Peugeot 504 - Light weight, 1.3 ton load capacity, best farm truck.
Isuzu Faster - Most reliable engine, good at everything.
Natsun D21 - Hilux, but better.
Mazda Rangero - who gives a fuck.

>>1040253
hey look it's a hilux dude lmao

>>1040440
yeah it's a hilux haha

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>>1040253
>hilux

>>1037838
Is that in Brevard County, FL? I swear to God I saw one of those (if not that exact same one) almost 8 months ago and I could never figure out what it was, but I wanted one

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>>1037946
The NAS Defenders and Discos were unadulterated shit. The platform was solid, they looked awesome, but the Rover V8 was a ticking timebomb.
t. 1997 Disco daily driver for 20 yrs.

>>1033926
Man that description gave me some imagery.

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>>1034168
I'm planning a long outing, and I want somewhere to keep spare gas and water other than inside my jeep. Is one of those hitch mount carriers good enough, or will I hate it and need to get one of those rooftop things?

>>1040814
They're fine as long as you don't have to drive up or down anything steep.

I've seen about a dozen people either rip them off or mangle them because they get hung up, and I've had to help unstick one person who bought a super strong one and bridged himself clean off his rear wheels.

>>1038318
http://www.trucktrend.com/features/163-1406-2014-readers-rides-show-case/ pretty cool mention of a guys build for one of those... Pretty much everything is custom or one off though... I feel that pain. My KJ has very little after market support

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Picked this up recently for AU$800. Been putting it to good use.

>>1040987
Never seen one with a small quarter window at the back.

>>1035821
>>1037680
2nding this. Torsion bars are not for lifting without replacing/modifying lots of other parts. It's a cheap redneck thing to do which, at best, wears out your suspension components earlier. At worst, shit breaks and you tumble down a cliff.

>>1040848
Jesus Christ. You're a huge faggot and you don't even know it.

>>1041065

t. Mazda Rangero owner

>>1035717
Go back /ORG/ tay.
None likes you here.

>>1033926
>land rover hate fucked a pug dog
Not too far off actually.
Early models had Peugeot Diesel engines.
Later ones had BMW/LandRover 5cyl diesel engines.

>>1040461
No, but pretty close. I'm in Collier. The one you saw was matte black too?

>>1041212
Yeah. I was passing through Cocoa and I saw one at a stoplight. I saw the palms in your picture and thought maybe it was the same

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Good /out/ vehicle under 10k?

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>>1033776
What I drive really depends on what I am planing to do.

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>>1033776
Had a jeep rubicon that had the works, that bitch could not be stopped, especially in southern LA, I'd take trips to southern Mississippi where they have some serious trails and camp out of her, I had a old twin mattress in the back to sleep on when hitting the trails, even hit the trans-America once and that shit was nice, but rough

>>1041385
Any of the full-sized trucks or truck-framed SUV's used.

If you're trying to be an enthusiast-tier rock climber that narrows things down a lot, but a standard 4x4 full-sized truck will do literally everything else /out/.

>>1041403
>Rubicon
>twin mattress in the back
Liar. Dash to back end is like 4.5'. You couldn't have done it even with the mattress flung up over the back of the front seats.

>>1034318
You still dont know what he means by low range. The transmission can have as many speeds as you want, the ratio in the differentials will allow for more low end torque and thus better rock crawling ability. If its fully open the wheels will spin too fast for it to get good traction. Slow and steady crawls the rocks bub.

>>1034508
In the u.s.a. all vehicles made after 1971 must be equipped with seatbelts. Thats when they made the law forcing makers to include them on every vehicle. So since yours was made after that date its a requirement.

>>1041456
Luckly i don't live in USA then

>>1041416
Yeah with the door closed, a simple mosquito net takes care of rest

>>1041416
And uh no it's not 4.5' from dash to front end, I have a 4 door, I'm 6 ft and could easily lie down in the back

I want to be able to tow a 1500 pound boat and trailer reliably for a lot of years. How much do I need to spend on the vehicle, and what should I get?
>inb4 put a hitch on a civic dude
Must be 4x4 for other /out/ activities
Been thinking about a new Tacoma or a used 4Runner but open to suggestions

>>1041416
>Dash to back end is like 4.5
Those numbers don't seem right.
4'6" is probably the width of the interior doorcard to doorcard.

>>1041385
Anything that isn't a car, or built on a car chassis (crossover).

>>1041511
>>1041512
yeah my bad I didn't realize it was the Commander 4-door. Figured when you said Rubicon it was a standard Wrangler.

>>1041556
Tacos and 4memers can do it, but it's hard on them and potentially dangerous. They lack the torque and brake size for towing at highway speeds, I found that out the hard way pulling a ~2000lb U-Haul trailer halfway across the US with my Tacoma.

If you're gonna be pulling that boat regularly I'd suggest a full-sized truck or large, truck-framed SUV. If you want to stick with Toyota then get a Tundra, the older, smaller ones still had V8's and big brakes and don't retain value nearly as well as Tacomas, should be able to pick up an '03 or '04 for like $4500.

As far as "need to" spend, not much. If you're willing to put up with all the age-related bullshit of older vehicles you can get used Chevy 1500's for under a grand.

>>1041574
Alternatively if a 4Runner or Taco is more appealing due to its other features, you can get a trailer brake kit (either pneumatic or electrical) that will help a lot. They're not cheap, but they do work well.

Still won't help with the lack of torque above 30mph though. I was basically stuck in 2nd or 3rd gear going through the West Virginia mountains pulling that U-Haul. The engine just doesn't have enough ass in the upper half of its RPM range.

>>1041556
Any car will tow a 1500lb trailer safely on level surfaces.
Yes, even a Civic.

>>1041579
Ehh. I disagree.

Even on flat, dry, paved roads 1500lbs increases stopping distance so radically I'd be hard-pressed to call it safe.

Sure, you're not gonna break your hitch and lose the boat on the interstate, but I certainly won't trust tiny little brakes on a 2200lb car to reliably stop a 1500lb trailer on short notice.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, most places that have water aren't particularly flat.

>>1041582
You can disagree if you wish.
If you're not comfortable with it that's also up to you.

But in reality it's not a problem to tow a small boat with a car.

In Europe people tow 20' caravans behind their VW Golf.
You can't go highway speed in the hills, trailer or no trailer.

I'm driving 2,000km in a few weeks.
What should I do in terms of preparation?
Should I buy spare parts in care I need them? If yes, what?

>>1041065

haha ok buddy :^)

>>1042882
Check fluid levels and tire pressure

Make sure you have a spare tire, run-flats, or tire repair kit. If you have a spare or repair kit, make sure you know how to use it.

Anything else depends if there is any regular maintenance coming up soon. Do you have an oil change coming up? Might as well do it now. When was the last time you rotated tires? Might be time to do that too.

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>>1037946
>>1037929
>>1036794

hey xj bros, lookin good. If you guys do offroad a little do you have a preference of mud or sand? here's me

>>1042991
Have XJs gone up in price yet?

Ten years ago you could find plenty of them for sale for less than $1,000.

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>>1043019
Around here you can still find some under $1000, but only if they're in shit shape. Any in good shape here is around $2500-$3000.
>pic related is representative of a $1000 XJ here

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>>1043052
And another.

Should I get a ford explorer sport, for camping and sleeping in? There's a pretty clean and seemingly good priced one in my area. years 1999.
Also why was some guy in this thread calling them exploders? Do they really explode?

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>>1043019
>>1043052
>>1043058
yeah this guy's pretty much spot on, found mine at a dealership in mint condition, previous owner garage kept it for 16 years. ran me almost 4.5k but through a sweet accident insurance paid off the car and let me buy it back for $200

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>>1043052
And around here any that aren't literally rusted through and non-running command $8,000+ because of the "muh jeep" crew.

Also, things rust out in under 10 years unless they're immaculately cared for and garaged, or never driven. Yay rust belt.

Pic related is the only XJ listed.

>>1043077
>also why was some guy in this thread calling them exploders? Do they really explode?
They used to blow out tires at highway speeds constantly, leading to fatal crashes and vehicle fires (something else Ford has a nearly unbroken 40-year history with, with almost every vehicle they've made being recalled at one point or another about). It was due to improperly matched tires (Firestone A/T's, which weren't up to the vehicle weight but were OEM anyway--the tire itself was fine, they just put it on the wrong vehicle).

Any vehicle from 1999 isn't gonna still be on its OE tires so nothing for you to worry about.

I personally dislike Fords due to *still* using vacuum switches, which tend to fail somewhat more frequently than regular switches and are significantly more expensive to replace, but each model and most years regardless of brand have their own quirks and shortcomings so I wouldn't read too much in to that.

>>1033776
I took my FWD Honda Accord in some precarious places in it's lifetime, never gotten stuck once, I even made it down a steep hill that was coated in ice. I bottom out before I get stuck. I cant trust it off road mudding but I take it everywhere that I would take a 4x4 daily vehicle.

>>1041376
Not unless someone jacked it for a joyride one weekend without me knowing lol

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Back from overlanding throughout Northern Ontario (any part north of Algonquin and the northern parts of the shield is what is colloqially referred to as "North")
The first interesting part is the beaver's dam that is actually part of the trail and helps me keep water out of my cabin.
Same trail that leads from central Ontario up to Lake Nip. We have had a delayed snow melt along with heavy rainfall for the past month so the stagnant water has been really damn high. This little rut was around 1 metre deep and I would've been able to cross it if i had the appropriate door seals.

Unfortunately, 10 klicks into the trail and this was blocked off by a deep swamp overflow. so I had to turn back.

Uh I just posted all of this on /ORG/ but I'll C&P the important shit here and try to keep the vehicular autism at a low.

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North of Algonquin has large "ATV" paths that are cut across crown land with permission by MNR (ministry of natural resources) that connects roads. Within every mile of highway between Nippissing and Sudbury, there are around 3 different trailheads that connect with eachother in this HUGE network of trails / rocks that are not documented. GPSs won't help you much because they wind in and out everywhere.

I love going through them because it's a different path every time and you can literally spend a month wandering around these trails going back and forth between them. Unfortunately, I only had a few days go go through them as I had a sense of direction to go around. I love just taking random small ones away from logging routes.

Due to these swaths of rock formations being crown lands, you can cut your own trails with permission and make them lead into the backyards of one of your friends / cottages.

You can also do any of this on the rocks:
>shoot legally in canadaland
>camp legally as long as you want
>start fires

And they're so far from general campers and people that you don't have to worry about anything. If you find one with a creekbed (one or two hours north of North Bay), you can reasonably live /out/ for a month subsisting off crayfish, riverfish, and just drink the creekwater. Just gotta go into town to occasionally get gas to keep you going.

>inb4 glampers pls go

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Who /rooftoptent/ here?

Fully assembled it in the back yard today to see if it all works properly, ladder doesn't touch the ground due to my dumbass not factoring in the 3' lift but thankfully the bottom annex does. Can't believe how much room the bottom annex has, could easily fit 3 people in sleeping bags in there or an absolute shit ton of stuff like camping table, ice cooler etc.

In a months time I'm gonna take it on a fishing trip for a week, can't wait.

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>>1043851
Because it's a relatively el cheapo brand they don't have ladder extensions available (they claim they do but they lie, fuck you 4WDsupacentre), so I put a hessian sack full of sand inside a milk crate to elevate the ladder, pretty stable putting pressure on it so it'll have to do for now.

>>1043829
Jelly as, no forests here where I live.

>>1033776
Can a panda 4x4 do the trick ?

>>1043898
Yes.

Went to view a Land Rover today.
The ad said Defender, but the vendor admitted it was an older one with a "facelift".

I Was still interested in buying up to that point, so we went for a drive.

Definitely the worst car I've ever driven.
If someone had told me how terrible this car was to drive I never would have believed them.
It's nothing like I expected.

>>1045131
They're rough and have no shoulder room, eh?

But they'll run into 200k and down the forests like needed and are the only acceptable "cube" vehicles besides the G-Wagons.

Where do you live?

>>1043101
This is why I'm going to be joining that 4Runner life soon. Once my XJ goes to poop, there's no way I'll be able to justify another, so might as well dump it off before it gets bad and get a 4Runner.

>>1045276
The shoulder thing was one of them.
Apparently you're not supposed to sit facing towards the wheel, but facing slightly inward, and your elbow is supposed to extend out the window, while you steer by pivoting your wrist up and down .

There is like 2.75" of room between the wheel and the door. Almost enough room for your knuckles.

The vendor had to explain all the car's quirks and the complicated systems for working them before allowing me to drive.

We met just after 4pm and as I left it was getting dark. So at least 4 hours of him explaining 'system' and technicas'.

Now I know all the 27 spots LandRovers leak oil, and that the gearbox drain plug uses a "English 1/2 inch wrench. Muy muy muy importante never a 13mm or bad things happen"
Also the drain plug is magnetized to pick up metal shavings caused by the oil being too low. But I shouldn't worry because the gearbox is "Kalashnikov" and can run without oil.

And that the way to know if reverse is engaged and not 1st is that the gear stick almost touches the dashboard in reverse.

Then came the time for me to actually drive. I broke a sweat just coming out of the parking spot.

I'm in Spain for the summer.
I just wanted a fun relaxed car to take to the beach and drive with the windshield down.
Then I'd sell it before going back home.
Big mistake apparently.

Is LandRover the ultimate autism car?

>>1034303
>my WRX outperforms 99%
No it doesn't. You're a vaping faggot who wanted to put out that he owns a WRX. Go back to instagram and facecuck. It's where you belong.

>>1045276
>but they'll run into 200k
So will every other car made barring intentional abuse or very rare factory defects.

Everyone loves shitting on Chrysler engines but I have a 1964 Chrysler 300K with 433,000 miles on it (it was my grandpa's DD, then my dad's DD, from 1964 to 1998), and a Chrysler New Yorker that I got at an estate auction that has 815,000 miles on it that I can only assume someone bought new in 1968 and drove every day until he died. Both have all-original engines, and the New Yorker still has the original head gaskets and everything. Never been rebuilt.

Hell for that matter, my first truck was a 1995 Dakota that I bought used in 2002 with 118,000 miles on it. I drove it to nearly 300,000 miles before getting T-boned by a semi and killing it.

>>1045300
We had these in Iraq, the Brits brought them over and were trying to use them as actual combat vehicles until they realized a dude in body armor couldn't get the door closed once he got in because they're so narrow.

So they gave them to us to use as fobrunners.

Was hilarious watching all the city folk who'd never seen a manual transmission before try to drive them. I will say to their benefit they're harder to stall than every other manual I've driven besides some weird hodgepodge 1970's Audi wagon with an inline 5 cylinder and a 3-speed my buddy had in high school.

>>1045506


There is a big contrast between a LandRover engine and an American engine. (Let's ignore the V8 for now).
And a big contrast in terms of how the mileage is accumulated.
LandRover is s tractor and can't even go highway speeds.

American cars have large, balanced, stress free engines.

The LandRover has a 2.4 liter 4cyl at most, with extremely low gearing so the engine has to work a lot more than it would if it were bigger.

>>1045518
>Rover 2.25 L petrol
Not since 1984, last of series 3
>Rover 2.5 L petrol
Not since 1995, D90, D110
>TDI
Only thing worth discussing outside of vintage enthusiast context.

Any other Land Rover fags here?

98 LR Discovery 50th anniversary edition with a 4.0. I've kept it fairly stock performance wise. Really just an airtec snorkel, Hedman headers feeding into a Magnaflow exhaust. I did have the engine rebuilt about 40k miles ago too. Other than that, I've got the grill guard, and a Chicago winch, light guards, Hella light bar, Thule ladder and roof rack, and some Falken Wildpeak ATs for the shoes.

I got lucky and got this truck from a friend of mine who gave it to me as payment for replacing the shift cables on his car. I love this truck though. It gets me in and out of anywhere I want to go.

>>1045537
How much coolant does it drink?
Always carry a spare brake light cutout switch.
Be ready to clean the oil pan pickup screen.
Don't use Fram oil filter. Wix builds a little more pressure for the old Buick V8
Has the central locking system been disabled? One day you will wish it had been.
How's the ignition lock? Careful, that's a 475 dollar part.
I have a part number for a voltage regulator that will save you from the $350 Marelli replacement every time you get the alternator wet. There's a rumour of a Delco replacement, but the VR is still cheaper.
The heater core can be replaced without discharge the AC. Either way it's a 20 hour job.
When the ABS starts to fuck you into the ditch, take the wheels off and soak the stutter rings and sensors with penetrant, and tap the sensors lightly with a brass drift to reseat them. After a few times, just cut the sensor leads, remove the sensors and stutter rings. Take apart the instrument panel to remove the abs bulb, because the abs fuse also powers the OBD port.
Be sure to clean out the nipple where the sunroof drains.
The electrical locks can be fixed by re-soldering the bad connection on the control board under the kick panel.
Cruise control failure is likely due to cracked vacuum hoses. Don't waste any time on the electrics until the rubber is replaced.
Window regulators will break. Don't get the cheap replacement or it will break again in less than a year.
Tony Simonau is a fat lying thief.
Use NGK or Champion plugs. The cheap ones.
There is a fuel pump access hatch under the carpet in the center of the cargo area. Fuel pump replacement is a trail fix, assuming FedEx delivers to your trail.
A small block Chevy won't fit. It should, but it don't.

The day I sold my 97 sd was the happiest day of my life.

>>1045537
Anything that bolts to the engine block is standard USAE threads. Most everything else is metric, except when its IPT or Whitworth.
The stock lug nuts are 1- 1/16" . Don't let anyone near them with any other size because the caps peel off and the replacement lugnuts cost about 40 bucks EACH.
Change the oil/grease on the swivel balls. It's a helluva lot easier than changing the swivel balls.
If the valve covers leak oil, the bolts are loose. The valve covers will leak oil. Snug up the bolts.
If the oil pan leaks oil, the gasket is fucked. It doesn't need a gasket. Remove the gasket the previous idiot installed and use permatex. Clean out the sludge in the pan while your at it. There will be sludge in the pan.
You need to drop the exhaust to change the transmission filter. It is worth the effort.
Do not let it overheat. Install a proper water temp gauge. If it overheats, the motor will never recover. Google "Rover slipped liner". You have been warned.

>>1045922
>>1045937
LandRover confirmed for ultimate autism car.

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>>1045922
>A small block Chevy won't fit. It should, but it don't.
>Tony Simonau is a fat lying thief.
fucking kek

Man, I remember before getting my land cruiser, I was going to buy a Disco II and put an old carb on the buick V8. Then buy a junk Disco II and harvest parts from it whenever a part on my driving Disco II broke.

I'm so glad I didn't do this but those two were so fucking funny. What do you drive now, anon?

>>1042991
I'm getting mine ready to head to the Upper Peninsula in a week! I personally prefer mud just because that's what I'm used to. I like snow a lot more, but I don't always gethe chance to ride in the winter in real snow.

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White one 1979 k5
37x12.5 r 16.5
4.10 gears
Turbo 350
NP203
6.6L 400 smb

Gray one- 1986 k5
39.5x13.5 R15
4.56 gears
700r4 k case
NP 241
One tons
5.7 l 355smb

>>1045922
>A small block Chevy won't fit. It should, but it don't
What do you mean won't fit?
Like physically under the "bonnet"? Or because a long time ago they were both GM engines?

>>1046516
I'd rather the NA one, I've had bad luck with turbo vehicles and I like the 4.56 gears better. But either would serve you pretty well.

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>>1045306
Lol

>>1046826
>imgur filename

Gee, wonder which subreddit this picture is from.

>>1046877
It was never posted on this general. On /ORG/.

But yeah>>1046826
r/BATTLEWAGONS. ROLLOUT!

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>>1034303
>My WRX outperforms 99% Jeeps

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My "company car", unfortunately they don't let me take it home at night but it's still fun to drive.


As for a personal vehicle, I've got a line on a 77 Jeep J20 former SAR Ambulance with a stock AMC 360, 4 speed and Dana 44/60. If it's still there (not gonna say where. It's mine, MINE!) I'll snap it up, camperize it and take it back up to Alaska in the fall.

>>1047272
>tfw no job that includes driving unimog

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Does everything i need it to do. Made a platform with 2' pvc and 5/8' plywood to slide a mattress on top and camping gear underneath. Amazing for road trips and outings.

>>1047941
Fuck phone posting...

>>1047941
How long is the bed in that?

>>1046519
Won't fit because motor mounts, bell housing adaptor adds too much length, rover front axle configuration. Sure, it can be done by an insane fabricator with mad welding skillz, but at that point you have a rock buggy.

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>>1045306
FUCKING REDDIT WE TOLD YOU TO FUCK OFF ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1047512
I found a company that does tours with Pinzgauer 6x6s too, I wanna do that next summer. Then I just need to find a job that lets me drive a Deuce and a Half.

>>1048314
Hunting club I have access to uses Pinzgauers as property runarounds.

They're exceedingly uncomfortable and are built for 5'2" tall malnourished conscripts. Despite having seats for 10, you're not getting more than 4 people in one.

That being said, they can go anywhere on the property, including the flooded corn fields when there's 3' of water and 2' of mud. We've never gotten one stuck.

>>1043077
try to find one with a 5.0 engine

>>1048211

Calm down newfag

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Went hiking in the Victorian high country

>>1048012
6 feet and I'm 6 feet so i sleep at slight angle or propped on pillows

>>1048596
That's actually the reason I asked. I'm 6'6" too.

My truck bed is 6'9" of usable space and the mattress is 6'3".
I thought I could sleep curled up but I kept waking myself up after kicking the tailgate or bumping my head.

The solution was to sleep in the reclining position.

>>1034817
nice

>ride mountain bikes
>hike
>"damn I hate OHVs they tear up the trail and make noise rabblerabblerabble"
>start riding street bikes (SV)
>hmm dirt might be kinda fun
>rent a ttr and spend a day bopping around some fire roads
>fug this is really fun
>fug I need a dirt bike now
>fug I need a truck to carry the dirt bike (or at least a trailer)

>>1036690
nice. say, could you fit a dirt bike in the bed of one of those?

>>1036734
yeee

>>1048705
>could you fit a dirt bike in the bed of one of those
Yes.

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>>1033776
who else /isuzu/ here?

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>>1048418
good taste anon

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>>1043058
>that rust

>>1048768
You shouldn't have done that.
People are going to cry because it's not a Toyota.

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>>1048783
its at 223k miles on the stock tranny and engine and nothing major has needed replacing. people can cry "muh hilux" as long as they want

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>>1048726
>>1048726
no kidding, hey. nice.

(via http://www.dirtbikeworld.net/forum/showthread.php?s=a2d1c20abfee5472641e39504d98dd80&t=104831)

>>1043134
>I bottom out before I get stuck.
That's still called getting stuck.

>>1048815
Is it a gas engine?
There's a lot of these in Europe (sold as both Opel Monterey and Isuzu Trooper) but never seen a gas one.

The only engine choice is a3.0 and 3.1 turbo diesel.

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>>1048815
Isuzu confirmed quiet strong kid in the corner nobody ever talks about.

>>1048913
I had an '89 Trooper for about five or six years. it was a stripper model, manual tranny, no air, vinyl interior. That said- it just wouldn't quit when it was in low-lock 4x4. I moved with it one or two times, took a 19 hour road trip through the southwest in 100+ degrees at about 90 mph.

The only issue with it was the timing chain jumped and advanced the cam timing, which burned an exhaust valve. I should have thrown a 30,000 mile motor in it, but I sold it.

>>1048871
Now those would be pretty capable engines.

The US market only ever got the 2.0 and 2.6L 4banger gas engines in the 1st gen and the 3.2L V6 gas engine in the second gen.

>>1049004
Oh, also, only the "premium" version was available with a rear LSD. Everything else had open diffs in the US.

Holden had a 2nd gen in Ausland that came with factory lockers and a 3.5L I6 gas engine.

Why are hilux's rare in the U.S? Import restrictions on jap cars?

>>1049086
They haven't met US emissions standards in decades, as such they can't be commercially imported.

Instead we got the Tacoma, which is the same body/frame but has a US-approved gas engine instead of the euro-approved diesel, and a much nicer interior (which is still spartan by US standards).

>>1049208
>he thinks Toyota doesn't have a gas engine.

>>1049213
>he can't read

>>1049208
>>1049208

It's not that they don't meet emissions standards, both the Gen 1 Tacoma and Hilux used the 2/3RZ-FE and 5VZ-FE engines, the Tacoma was just designed and built in the US to avoid the "Chicken Tax" which places a 25% tax on all imported light trucks.

The real major difference between them is that the Tacoma was designed to be a bit more comfortable to use as a passenger car from the start since that's what most Americans use it for, whereas the Hilux is much more spartan.

>>1034752

Yay ford ranger. Great out vehicle. Got a bed for keeping your big shit in, and a little pseudo-trunk to keep your other stuff in. Also gets really great mileage compared to other trucks from the same time.

>>1049311
The mileage is pretty much a thing for any
4cyl compact truck, my Tacoma gets 30-32 mpg highway according to the OBD2 port.

It's really a shame that compact Trucks were killed off by the CAFE regulations in the US, they're so much more practical for most people than a massive fullsize or midsize truck.

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>>1049315
>>1049311
I've got 22mpg highway doing 75 miles / 120 km. I get like 23mpg if I go lower.

This is with higher than stock gearing and manual.

>>1049608
Yeah in my case I've got a stock height manual 2wd Tacoma with street tires, I just put chains on it if I plan on going anywhere where I might see mud so it's pretty much the best case scenario for mileage.

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>>1049614
That's what I used to do with my I-5 Colorado. Good times. Watch out for rocks when mudding, though. Make sure you chain them tighter than normal in case you snag on a tree root.

Duratrac tyres maximise fuel economy (apparently only by like 0.2MPG but still) and gear better for highway (the majority of my driving). Innacity driving would kill me on the higher-than-factory gears.

What year taco?

>>1033791
I sometimes teach worker's environmental awareness to power line workers and this is useful information, thanks

>>1049640
You're unqualified.

>>1049643
Jealous? I'm an archaeologist but I read the biology directives from a piece of paper and get big money.

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>>1049640
>>1049653
This completely depends on where you are. You should technically know this if you're teaching environmental awareness but it vastly differs if you're in the amazon, tundras, desert, etc.

The powercut I'm camping on right now is technically all marshland with swallowing trees so anywhere you can drive on is subject to swamp sprawl. So most of the things you quoted aren't as applicable, for example.

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XJ MASTER RACEEEEE getting lifted...eventually.

>>1049616
It's a 96

>>1037838
I wish that Isuzu made the V-Cross with the option for a manual transmission.

I would *kill* to build a rally/raid SUV out of one of these.

>>1049608
Youre a liar unless you have the mazda 2.3

>>1049683
Master of rust and broken parts

>>1051301
No shit, I had a Laredo that went through two clutches and a cam shaft.

>>1048315
>Despite having seats for 10, you're not getting more than 4 people in one.

That's the booking agent's problem, I'm the wheel man.

I'm just looking for ways to get paid for driving rigs I won't own.

>>1051299
The 2.3 Lima can do just under 30MPG on the highway if you have them at 3.2 something gearing.

21 highway MPG is what google says the gubmn't says the 4.0 is capable so putting larger tyres for higher gearing getting better gas mileage isn't hard to belieb.

Also, 3.0 a shit.

>>1051612
Can confirm.
28 mpg highway, full throttle all the way.
79 mph max speed, with a tailwind.

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>on the off chance anyone sees this

looking for a cheap truck for light /out/ duty and hauling motorcycles, would like to keep it under $3k usd, camper shell and manual transmission a plus. Recommendations? Years/makes/models to avoid?

>>1052166
Pretty much all trucks are good.
Get whichever one you like best.

Never listen to brandfags, ignore memes.

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>>1049683
Nice anon. I just got my new tires yesterday, one step closer to my PINNS trip on the 14th.

>>1033776

If your answer isn't either Land Rover Defender or Toyota Land Cruiser, you're wrong. If your answer is anything American, you're REALLY wrong.

>>1052836
thanks for the meme answer, reddit.

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>>1049683
Where can I get a brush guard like that?

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My 2001 4Runner. 500 bucks, 200K miles. Couldn't be happier with this thing, considering living in it for a month or two to save up faster for my own place. Anyone know of any great aftermarket sites for these?

>>1053262
Depends where you live

>>1052922

Butt-hurt Yank detected.

>>1053414
Keep up the delusions, reddit.

>>1036703
Why do we have people like this on this board? Shitting in rivers, fucking up the woods, shitting in geocaches. Please stay inside.

Would an old-gen Nissan Frontier or Pathfinder (either the D21 or early D22) be good for what I'm looking for?

I need:
- highway capability for driving cross-country
- enough room to fit a Honda CT90 Trail Cub (a hair over 6ft long and about 3.5ft tall) in the back, plus a few duffel bags/rucksacks/containers of /out/ and /sci/ gear
- No truly serious off-roading, but able to handle snow and loads of fire roads
- manual transmission

If there's a mid-size truck/SUV that might be better for these combined tasks lemme know.

My goal is $3500 for budget but I can stretch up to $6k

I'm a field biologist and my work tends to be seasonal, so I pretty much have to haul ass across the country once every 3-4 months. Pay is sorta crap but I'm literally getting paid to be professionally /out/ and doing what I love, at least.

Right now I drive an '80s Subaru and while it's reliable as fuck it's got less off-roadability than I'd like and it's also miniscule. I need more cargo room!

>>1033936

Land Hummer?

>>1038599
Nice Vomit Bomb number plate

>>1043853
haha I have the weekender rtt from the supercenter, its pretty neat, have been in a few storms and still dry.

>>1047941
A camper fit for a pope. Gotta love the Toyota gear, not the most comfortable but really reliable.

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>>1037838
Ive always wanted a V-cross, that another anon actually has one is glorious, isuzu was too pure for this world

>>1056047
The standard bed is supposed to be 2m long, which is something like 6'9".

The diesel engine (SD22) lasts forever, but is slow as balls and cannot keep up highway speeds.
Get the gas version for that.

Off roading isn't a problem.

>>1056086
Yup, was planning on getting the gas version.

I would also prefer, if I got the truck over the Pathfinder, to have the extended cab just to have a waterproof compartment behind me to toss stuff like a gun, bug-out bag, or valuables.

>>1037838
immaculate one for sale by me for 3200. i thought about it for a week but im gonna find a manual 7.3 4 door 250 instead