Kayaks

>>1032083

Might want to consider the Hobie mirage kayaks or the Native watercraft ultimate or mantaray.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya5r7DIdLHs

>>1032083
Seems like one's better for you for fishing, and one's better because of camping. Which do you care about more? Pick that one.
I've learned before that sometimes the "do-it-all" kayak does nothing well. Granted, I know way more about whitewater boats than I do this kind. Anywhere you can go to demo these? Check out the trim, etc?

>>1032083
First off, unless you're TRULY MASSIVE, as in 300lbs+, pretty much every kayak you can cram your camping gear in will have plenty of weight capacity to do so. The issue is storage room, not weight capacity.

That being said, pretty much all the actually-good fishing kayaks will have plenty of storage room for camping shit. All that front deck space is pretty much unused in an angling kayak because you really can't reach it when you're sitting in the kayak, and most of them have large tankwells in back that unless you're using as a livewell/cooler holder will be mostly empty.

>>1032083

Get a canoe.

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>>1034968
>The issue is storage room, not weight capacity.

Not true if you ever want a trolling motor with batteries in it. I sometimes put 150+ lbs of batteries in front of my canoe (3 deep cycle 27 series). Gets me a 20+ mile range.

Canoe cost me $400 ten years ago used.

>>1036606
yeah kayaks are much easier to propel tho.

A single car-battery-sized deep cycle will run a 30lb thrust trolling motor for around 50 hours at the second highest setting, and a 30lb thrust trolling motor will propel a 12' angling kayak at around 7mph at that setting.

And if you're needing multiple days' worth of battery, take a fucking solar charger and 2 trolling motor specific batteries..

I am in the same boat as you. Ive gone kayaking many times and am comfortable with it. But I dont own one and I want to avoid getting a walmart pooptier. Id rather save and just get a good one I can take care of and last me a long time. For me, simply having it out on the water is what I really want, though fishing and whatnot is something I see myself doing also.

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Anybody here into /seakayak/ing?

hijacking your thread for general purposes.

i went kayaking last weekend, i don't know any of the details about the kayaks. i think they were pretty basic sit-in style. it was the first time i've ever kayaked. we went 17 miles on a level I-II river that was running a little low, so i was scooting across some rocks at some of the rapids. i loved pretty much every minute of it, and i'd like to get my own kayak (or maybe two [or three]).

we did some fishing from the kayaks we were using. both kayaks had a circular reservoir for water & fish storage. that was really nice. my cousin's kayak also had a couple of rod holder cup things that he said were for trolling. those were cool, also.

anybody have any advice/recommendations for a beginner looking at getting a kayak for some easy rivers/streams (like maybe up to level III), and a kayak for fishing reservoirs/lakes/creeks/rivers?

>>1037409
If you are looking to kayak class IIIs, get a hardshell playboat and learn how to roll/understand basic hydrology. It can be expensive, but it's a fantastic way to experience the river. Usually swimming pools will let you practice during open hours.

>>1037617
This is good advice. Look for a decent used boat. Craigslist, Boatertalk, Mountainbuzz.
Look up the local paddling club. They may sponsor pool roll sessions, etc.
Try and find a copy of a good kayak instruction video, Eric Jackson's and Ken Whiting's are good.
Remember, in addition to a boat, you need a good paddle (that fits you), a decent helmet and PFD, float bags (for the stern of a whitewater boat), spray skirt, etc...and a roof rack. It can be an expensive hobby. Easier to find gear and buddies if you live near a popular river.

>>1037617
>>1037629

thanks for the detailed info.

>>1032083

Jackson Kraken 15. Superb bit of kit.