Homegrowmen Thread #92

>>1020987
Pretty much all my plants have flowers and fruit starting now. Luffa and Watermelon are still a bit slow though. Things are still heating up. Then again I had stuff flowering indoors back in March and April before I planted them outside.

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>>1020992
Kek, had to use my finger back then to get the camera to focus properly
>>1020995
If you count in the germination container, mine are already in their 5th size pot now. As I've used a much heavier mix right now (garden clay, sand, compost), the current size should last them a bit longer (previously used the very light store-bought potting soil). As I'm planning to grow these as perennials (or at least 2 years - it will be a challenge at 50°N with no artificial lighting and extremely cloudy winters), I'm curious how big I'll have to eventually size up
>>1021011
Yeah, my Cayenne also flowered in April indoors (pic), some of my strawberries flowered in mid-March outside, but then got hit by late frost in April

For a more meta thing, anyone up for a dedicated split-off /capsicum/ general? I mean when I first started going to /hgm/ back in 2015, a single thread was up for 3+ weeks, now we're at like 4 days, so a split off would make sense I think, considering it's one of the most popular genera grown on here. I guess for my next update in a couple days I'll just give it a try if no one else does and see how it goes

>>1021023
Grow well little pepper

>>1021035
>split off for peppers

There's like 4 people posting peppers. You'll just encourage more knife threads.

>>1021045
Meh, it may not make up for a huge portion of /hgm/ right now, but from around Aug-Oct, about half the posts on here are pepper-related

Mycologist/fungi farmer checking in. Anyone with questions ask away.

>>1021052
indoor or outdoor?

>>1021052
Have you ever grew some glowing mushrooms?

I'm doing some experiment on caterpillars effect on my plants. I have 5 lemon trees where two of them are for caterpillar's bait. At first it was frustrating to see the young plant chewed down by the caterpillars. What I've notice over the past year was that the plants chewed by caterpillars are more lush and bushy than the one that I pruned myself.

>>1021035
Including the tray mine are only in their second pots. Though the next step up is quite big, so maybe they stop growing again until they've spread their roots.
I'm sticking with my current soil mix, about 2/3 vegetable potting soil and 1/3 perlite.
I'll cut em down when the season is over (if I manage to keep em alive until then, it's all a first for me) and try to make one or more into bonsai.

>>1021023
grow well, little pepper

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>>1021053
Both, but mostly indoor.

>>1021054
No, but I am working on getting a hold of a culture. The main species people grow is Panellus stipticus, which has glowing mycelium and glowing mushrooms. I have read in papers that a local species, Mycena haematopus, has glowing mycelium as well. I've been on the hunt!

>>1021035
>>1021045
>>1021051
+1 for the pepper general.
We need a board for generals for hobbies and interests that are to small for a board but so big they clutter general threads or boards. Like /vg/ for /v/.

>>1021075
/vg/ was a mistake, though. It took all the actual vidya discussion out of /v/(not that there was much anyway) instead of actually addressing the problem with /v/ itself(i.e. most of the board being offtopic shitposting) and now we have a board full of circlejerks and stagnate generals that hardly discuss the game they're about but people still make them out of pure habit. Besides, most of the /an/ plant threads are about carnivorous plants and no one's complained there. No need to fracture an already small community on a small board.

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This guy is growing on my carrot plot, anyone have any idea what this is? Doesn't look like any weed around me.

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I decided to buy some stone slabs and make a little walkway around my raised bed.
I think it actually looks presentable now.

I'm getting into medicinal herbs and fungi and I'm planning on growing and selling them locally. Any suggestions? I've got a very large and prioritized list of things I want to grow. I'm a biochem student planning on being a mycologist, so I'm not a homeopathic dummy.

My house used to be inhabited by an herbalist so I have a large amount of land to grow anything I could ever want and some plants were even left behind, like gingko trees and a giant rosemary bush.

>>1021103
Most likely a morning glory seedling.

>>1021110
That is nice and needed when it has just rained a lot.

>>1021127
Find out what people want before growing something they don't want.

>>1021127
Ginseng is probably a safe bet. Mushrooms can get a high price.

>>1021127
Reishi, Cordyceps, and Turkey tail all sell for high prices, Cordyceps is hard to grow but you get paid a lot for it, and the other two are very easy. You can grow enough mushrooms to sell with a very small investment. They are also such a niche market that you will almost definitely find a local market, and if not, they ship well.
Herbs are more specific, local markets are going to have fluctuating demands, and the online market will be too flooded.

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>tfw a fucking skunk dung up and eat my flower seeds last night

>>1021148

My town has zero herbal shops or anything close, so I have no idea about what demands people have. There's definitely a market for it though. My downtown area has a fucking salt lamp shop.

>>1021103
those are classic morning glory or hawaiian baby woodrose cotyledons

Im worried my pepper plants arnt growing fast enough.
They are only about 4 inches tall.

>>1021246

When did you plant and what kind of peppers?

My sweet peppers are ~4" tall too and I started them in april indoors.

Sweet peppers grow pretty slowly, but you'll still get yield late in the season as long as they get enough sun.

I grew 4x sweet and 4x hab pepper plants last year in almost complete shade and I still got so many habs that my entire freezer is filled with them.

>>1021270

I bought plug plants from an online vendor so i dont know when they was planted.

But all of the varietys im growing only grow to about a foot and a half tall.

Im growing

Basket of fire
Apache F1
And cayenetta

>>1021275

They like it when it's hot out.

It's not really hot out yet.

Trust me, they seem to grow almost exponentially. It's amazing how big they can get in 4 months.

>>1021142
Thanks, I guess morning glory travel around

it rained again today, the pumpkin is kinda wiggen out, the corn don't seem to mind at all.

>>1021480
>tfw i have to wake up, have a cup of coffee then go out and water everything for like an hour or more

*yawn* The best thing about being a farmer is that you are already at work when you get up and already home when you are done with work.

>>1021083
I get your concerns, although don't neccessarily agree to them. A hobby general would only cover topics that have no home on 4chan yet so they can't really take away anything. But maybe a gardening board would be the better alternative. People could talk everything they want there, peppers, carnivorous plants, mushrooms, lemon trees, avocado plants, ....

>>1021110
Nice, but maybe fix your lawn/add another bed/fill the gaps with white gravel.

>>1021197
Start again, don't let the fucking Stinktier win!

>>1021246
>>1021270
>>1021275
Don't worry, commerically sold plants are rarely bigger (if you find a shop that sells bigger plants, stay with it, it's a good one).
nothing to worry here, and especially the Apache F1 will give you fruits in the double digits even if you grow it in an empty pudding cup.

>>1021483
>go out and water everything for like an hour or more
At that point, wouldn't it be more efficient to lay some PVC pipe or soaker hoses or something and use a timer nozzle to water your plants, so you can just set the dial and go do other shit while it waters?

I found several garter snake living in my concrete bedding, should I be concern? Are they useful for the garden?

>>1021566
Leave them there, they'll eat mice and bugs.

>>1021566
Garter snakes=good
They eat the things that eat your plants.

>>1021566
They are completely harmless to humans and will probably munch on various small insects and maybe rodents. Let them thrive.

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Repotted 2 today, one was starting to circle its roots, and the other ones' roots looked unhappy in the clear pot.

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>>1021610
Strawberries and cherry tomato are also doing great, and my basil (not pictured) was shocked from transplanting it I think, because it came back with a vengeance. Everything is going surprisingly well, the worst so far was a handful on aphids.

By the way, how do I fertilize those tiny tomato flowers? It spends most of its time in that plastic greenhouse, so very little insect activity.

>>1021616
>how do I fertilize those tiny tomato flowers?

Gently finger the flowers and wiggle your finger a little

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My virginia and woodland strawberries are flowering. I think I'm gonna try dehydrating them and making a tea mix.

>>1021487
>A gardening board
That's pushing it when we have /diy/, /an/, and /out/ already. That's my main issue with this site having so many boards, do we really need so many 3DPD porn boards? Do we really need /vr/ and /vp/? Why the actual heck does /aco/ exist? And so on.

>>1021197

>deer takes a bite of my okra plant but doesn't eat it, just cuts it down and leaves the piece on the ground
>Okra regrows
>same thing happens
>repeat until end of season

I now consistently use a granular repel all because I want nature to leave my shit alone.
Except bees, bees are cool.

>>1021023
Grow well, little pepper!

I'm planning on growing reishi mushrooms. Would growing them in bags or on dead logs be optimal?

I don't know if the mycologist is still here but anyone have recommendations of fungi growing communities?

I know the science of fungus but I'm just now getting into growing it. I'm going to be inoculating dead trees with reishi plugs, but those'll take a while to flush so in the meantime I'm considering something in a jar, like oysters or king trumpets.

I forage a lot and find good stuff like chanterelles but I don't have a sterile environment to clone them.

>>1021566
they are bros

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This is my oldest and worst garden. This is almost 100% natural local "soil". There's so much clay in this dirt that you could almost make bricks from it as-is. It is worse than it was because 3 local utility companies had pipelines and stuff under it and they all decided to replace everything the same year. Which took all the "nice" top soil and put it at the bottom of 6 feet deep trenches then covered up.

I'll probably abandon this one in favor of making more raised beds elsewhere. Here I'm planting Yukon Gold potatoes. It seems the corn and beans are coming up.

>>1021564
Yes. That is the long run plan. Pipe needs to be 3 feet deep in this area to prevent freezing and that's a lot of trench work. Not something I'll be doing by hand. I'll actually need to rent an excavator to do that and a bunch of other projects at the same time. I have several gardens, fyi.

>>1021674
>to prevent freezing
Do you plan on growing in freezing temperatures?

If not, couldn't you handle freezes by just uncapping the ends of the pipe network to prevent ice expansion from causing pressure buildup?

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>>1021676
>Do you plan on growing in freezing temperatures?

Yes.

> couldn't you handle freezes by just uncapping the ends of the pipe network to prevent ice expansion from causing pressure buildup?

No. Too much work and wear on the equipment. It is better to use a frost proof yard hydrant and drain the short connections from it to soaker hoses the inside of the tunnels. That way there's only a few feet exposed to extreme cold at any one time. If it is longer than that all sorts of freeze problems occur even while the water is running. Most of my hoses are 200 feet long.

My tomato plants aren't even 2 ft tall yet, have I missed the boat?

What strawberry cultivar tastes the best?

>>1021688

They really take off once the weather is better.
My tomato pants are only allitle bigger but last year they was even smaller and still gave me a bountiful crop.

You will most likely be fine.

>>1021597
Is there anything I can do to make them more comfortable?

>>1021715
Nah, just let nature take care of them.

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>>1021715
You should get them some hats. Sneks love hats.

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The weather has been pretty foul the past few days so I though I'd take some pics of my fowl.

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Root veggies are doing really well in my aquaponic system, but since the growing medium is only 3", I'm getting some real freaks.

>>1021699

W2C tomato pants?

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>>1021688
>>1021699
You'd need to start them indoors a couple months ago for them to reach 2 feet or so. Mine are about 2-3 feet tall I think. The suckers are even bearing fruit on some.

>>1021729
I dunno what I'm freaked out by more. That carrot or your toes.

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>>1021729
lol Looks like the ones I started in a seed tray then transplanted.

>>1021735
>started in a tray
>then transplated

that's not how carrots work
reeeeee

Do you guys order seeds online that's not sold locally? I ordered telegraph plant and tea tree.

>>1021734

New to /homegrown/?

>>1021735
>>1021738

Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. I can't even imagine how hard it would be to transplant carrots.

>>1021742

Johnny's seeds for heirloom stuff and stuff that is kind of specialty. I have an organic store by my house where I go for hydro and aqua shit, but their seeds are limited.

>>1021744
It was actually really easy to transplant since they were still pretty tiny. The problem came from the soil they were started in was softer for them than the soil they were transplanted to. That zone of harder soil cause a lot of problems for them. Had they been started in that soil, they'd have been fine.

>>1021749
Gotta get a pick or a shovel and get that clay out of there dude. 18 Inches deep, murderously tilled, is where I stuck my carrots.

If you find clay you can dry it out, break it down into powder and fertilize things weakly with it.
You can mix it well into soil before putting a plant in too.

Me? I use it for smoking pipes.

>>1021688
No. Mine are bunched, 8 big stalks a pot, 2 pots, cages already in. Probably 3.5 feet tall.
5 Cubic feet of soil each, no fertiliser, basic mulched hardwood dirt in one, underneath of pine tree dirt in the other.
Pine tree tomato is behind by a couple inches. Everything planted Feb 20 or so.

Resist the urge to fertilize that shit. Too late? No, I have 30 new baby tomatoes up to 1/2 inch.

Someone come keep us company on /an/? Our thread is faster.

>>1021023
Grow well, little pepper

>>1021742
>I ordered telegraph plant
Hey, me too. I bought them on eBay. Still haven't received them though, hopefully they didn't get lost.

>>1021731
Any reason to let these nettles grow in the onions?

>>1021801

Looks like lemon balm

>>1021805
Think that's what it is, or spearmint.
It's a shallow rooting plant so onions won't care that it's in there.

>>1021668
Bags give high yields very quick and consistently. Best for production growing. If you just want to make them for personal use, I would do it outdoors, climate permitting.

>>1021672
Fungi growing communities? Like webpages?

Most species are actually grown in bags, jars tend to be hard to clean with low surface area. Species that work well in jars include King oysters and velvet feet. Mostly asian species.

>>1021809
There's a huge thread on /an/ about mushrooms, but it's close to autosage.

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>>1021781
>get that clay out

There's no clay in that bed, just sand and compost. The seed starting growing medium was just too sandy.

Funny thing is, my other garden is about 90% clay and this is how that batch turned out (pic).

>>1021110
It looks a bit awkward with how high up above the ground the slabs are.

>>1021809

I heard the bags give antler forms of the mushroom rather than the conk form though. Is the antler form preferable?

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>>1021801
That's Catnip. If I had nettles, I'd be growing it. It is a great green for eating.

Also, I'm going for 0 root space in my garden this year. Every nook and cranny is planted with something. When I harvest onions as scallions I take the ones that are closest to the other plants. That way things can still expand without pressure.

>>1021805
>>1021806
Close, it is in the mint family.

What do you gardeners do about moles, voles and other burrowing creatures that eat your plants' roots?

>>1021854
If you have a flowerbed, then you can floor it with a tarp and/or maybe some chickenwire before laying down soil.

>>1021854
>got tiny moles
>got mole traps that go into mole holes
>mole traps are way too big to fit into holes
>still got moles

I kill them on sight, stomp them when they are under the gravel underlayment, and flatten all tunnels I find. I saw one snake in the walls a couple weeks ago, more power to it.

>>1021862
The main problem with that is that I've seen them climb up the block sides of my raised beds to get in. You'd need to use hardware cloth, because chicken wire holes are too large.

>>1021866
>hardware cloth
Yeah hardware cloth would work even better, especially against tiny critters. The mesh you choose should reflect the species you're trying to keep out.

>>1021873
Hardware cloth also lasts many years longer than chicken wire.

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>>1021840
They only give the antler form if you raise CO2. Bags are better for manipulating form.
Outdoors you will always get conk form, indoors you can manipulate CO2 levels to change the form, as well as rotate the bags. High CO2 initiates antler formation and branching, low CO2 initiates conk formation. There is a whole japanese/chinese methodology based on getting them to grow into different forms. Some people claim the antlers are more potent.

>>1021813
It is my thread :)

>>1021854
It's rather voles or insects, species called moles are largely insectivores

I've heard garlic mash regularly applied into galleries may repel them, don't know first-hand how efficient it is though.

>>1021715
I don't know from firsthand experience, since I don't live in an area with many. If you have the means, keeping a yard with potential lairs would be good - my relatives have a garter snake who has been living under a large rock in their yard for many years.

>>1021888
i see, ok

what they do is get the roots. it kills the entire plant pretty much instantly. i go outside to tend the garden and large, previously healthy plants will be lying on the ground, wilted

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Grandma gave me two little tomato sproutlings (well one of them not so little) today, I made two sub-irrigated planters and shoved them in there with some good potting soil in each. However, my issue is with the larger sproutling; in my haste to do other things this morning, we left the two dug-up sproutlings in a plastic cup with some dry soil for a couple of hours. The larger one wilted badly and I think one of the leaves may be burned (it's hot here).

Another one of it's leaves has some white discolorations and splotching. Is that signifying a nutrient deficiency or something else?

>pic related, white spots circled in red

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>>1021942
Here's the leaf I think may be burnt, it's the one on the far left.

Some of the wilting on both plants has been mitigated just by bringing them indoors and giving them moist soil + proper support, but I'm worried I may have messed up before I even began...

>>1021942
Probably just sunburn.

>>1021835

Neato. I haven't seen soil like that in 15 years.

>>1021943
Not a deficiency, probably physical damage.

>>1021942
If the white spots are really white, it's sunburn. If it's rather transparent that's more simple crushed bits on the leaves

>>1021728
How many chickens and how many ducks? Also if you have pics of the coop(s) please share mr birdman.

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Started harvesting garlic....I think it's ready? First time, halp

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>>1021973
1/3

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>>1021979
Ffs im retarded

>>1021981
Perhaps I pulled them out a bit too early? That was about half the ones I grew.

>>1021985
They look pretty good. You can wait a bit longer for the others.

the pumpkin all looked good today, I guess they all recovered from to much rain our too little rain who knows.

>>1021936
Are there any bites? Under or upside the soil level?
Any galleries besides? If there are, you could put some garlic mash inside, it doesn't cost much to try

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planted the tomatoes this morning, hopefully they won't get btfo by the mildew this year

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>>1022183
and potatoes are still going strong

>>1021624
>/diy/
Anthing gardening there is usuall send off to /hgm/

>/an/
Different topic, their general focuses more on ornamentals as I understand it while /hgm/ is more about crops. Works well so far though.

>/out/
Not really the board to flood with more gardening imho. But maybe the best bet nonetheless

>porn boards
To hell with them as far as I care, same for the drawn stuff.

>/aco/
The most useless board around. Fetish fuel of the worst kind. Can go to hell as well.

>/vp/
Containment board.

>/vr/
Hands off. The last remainig v-related board that isn't a useless shit hole (but it gets progressively worse)

Also:
>/bant/
Like really? What does this board even achieve? What need does it fill? If there's space for shit like this, there is space for a gardening board.

Actually, while the "immature"/shitposting boards are the worst part of 4chan and the internet, the "grown up" ones are some of the best. Fuck forums and their circle jerks, local "celebs" and shit.

>>1021023
Grow well, little pepper!

>>1022183
>>1022184
I dig the "wilderness" look of your garden. Looking good.

Btw tomatoes:
Anyone here growing Mortgage Lifters? Maybe has some pics to share from fruitbearing plants? Mine look way too puny so far to carry 2-3lb fruit. DId I fell for a meme? Am I too impatient?

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>>1021023
Grow well, little pepper!

Bishops crown pepper here.

>>1022191
I've never grown that cultivar, but tomatoes start to get husky as they get fruit. They go from worryingly wobbly to fairly sturdy after they have to hold a few fruits. Most beefsteak varieties from my experience, start small and give bigger fruit later.

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>>1021854
I've been thinking about those wind mole chasers, but in the youtube vids they are silent which totally defeats the purpose of chasing moles away using noise and vibration. They are also HAWT and low to the ground where they don't really spin that well and wouldn't have enough torque if a noise maker was added.

I think a VAWT that uses a rod that goes down into the tube/pole underground where it has a clicker set up would work.

>pic I made of Idea.

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Day 31 since the snibbening, and ~6 days since the second snib.
Just one this time, I gave the other to my sister.

>>1021023
Grow well little pepper!

>>1022213
You should prune off those lower shoots near where you clipped and get the top growing more.

>>1022223
Why so? I would do the exact contrary if I was to overwinter this one

>>1022227
The plant is still small, it will get the top growing more. Lower stuff tends to get less light, it could have peppers hanging down in the dirt.

It does depend on how you prefer it to grow, That's just usually how I do most of mine. Pinch, wait for the top to grow again, prune the lower stuff.

>>1022230
That wasn't me btw. I plan to make it into a bonsai eventually, should I still prune the lower shoots?

>>1021197
put some wire fence around it and leave the top edge rough so it acts as spikes.

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These guys appear next to my carrot, any idea what it is?

>>1022234
>bonsai
In that case, you may want to leave them. Pinch the tops again to get the lower branches growing and you get more to shape.

>>1022279
Poke weed. Edible only while very very young, after peeling the outer layer and usually cooking in a few changes of water. Tastes like a cross between asparagus and spinach. I've never bothered and give all my poke shoots friends and family.

If you eat the wrong part, at the wrong time, or don't prepare it correctly it can be pretty deadly.

>>1022287
Thanks, should I just remove it from the garden or do something with them?

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>>1022213
I also top my peppers to make them bushier. I think this one is a piri piri (not sure).

>>1022329
What is that it's growing in?
Looks like tiny coconuts.

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>>1022329
and pic is what I bought as Bolivian rainbow seeds. Though it might be a Chinese 5 colors, I can't tell for sure because the flowers are white, not purple.
Fruit first goes purple, white, then the classic yellow, orange and red. A lot of people say they don't taste good but the few I had were very good.

>>1022334
These are clay pebbles. Though they are not growing in it, there is normal soil underside. It's just to "break" the water flow and avoid direct exposure of the (dark) soil to the sun. It also quite repels sciarid flies.

>>1022292
That's up to you. I just pull them out and compost them.

>>1022334
Those are Cocoa Puffs.

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A crop of black morels sprang up in my beauty bark. I left some to reseed, harvested some to eat and am drying others for later in the year.

Laying down some beauty bark near the blackberries. Going to take a few of the dried morels, cut them up and sprinkle them in the new bark. Hopefully next year they'll be springing up in the new wood. Never tried cultivating morels before but I figure it's worth a shot.

>>1022367
Very nice. A bit jelly too.

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Mycologist anons,

Will indoor cultivation of morel mushrooms ever be possible? How do the fucking Chinese do it outdoors? There is too much competition nearby for me to get anything worthwhile for gathering them. I remember seeing one anon say he was interested in trying indoor cultivation, would love it if he could give us any updates on any progress towards that.

>>1022367
Morchella importuna! This is the best species for outdoor growing. Good luck!

>>1022475
I am working on it. I am actually doing my writeup tonight, and the formal presentation will be done tomorrow. I got pretty good results, and I think I have a good idea of where I am heading with my next set of trials. The Chinese have succeeded with outdoor grows through proper strain selection, and an optimum climate. Atleast from the sparse information they have released, they make it sound that simple. But from reading everyones reports, outdoor cultivation isn't too difficult to achieve.

>>1022482
Awesome, keep us updated. Your posts are pretty much the only reason I come to this board. Good luck in your endeavors sir.

My shallots are starting to bulb up.

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>>1022497
Will do! And thanks

Who else honeybee here? Just bought two more nucs, so I've got 3 carnis and an italian hive. Surprise surprise, the latter is robbing the former; robbing screens seem to be working.

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DFW bro here. Life is getting busy again working 6 days a week, protesting taxes, repairing a water leak, birthdays and mothers day...

Anyway I built 3 more beds in the sunny part of my yard. The size of my tomato plants compared to my girlfriends is quite obvious, hers being full sun mine being practically full shade. Beans don't seem to give a shit but they get more light, maybe an hour in the morning, some scattered light during the day, then an hour or two at dusk. The 3 new beds will get an hour or two in the morning, get shaded until about noon, then light until 6 or 7. That's the best I can do without maiming my tree. I chopped off a low branch about 8" in diameter. I can scalp the tree on that one side, I don't give a shit, but they're big limbs and they are high and I live by myself and it overhangs a fence.

Need to fill the new beds with soil and sow my corn, beans, and whatever the feed store has left over. Starter plants were $1/ea 2 months ago, now they're 4 for $1. My first 3 beds were 100% bulk compost. Not sure if I should go this route or do 1/3 top soil. Each bed is 1cuyd. I can't really comment on the performance of the compost as I have nothing to compare it to and yah... shade. I'm not an organic person, not afraid to use fertilizer. I have heard plenty of success stories of straight compost but am also fighting battles in my current garden.

>>1022716
Oh and one of my jalepenos is wilting. Spruces back up at night. Everything around it is fine and it doesn't have any bugs. We just had rain everyday since Friday/Saturday so maybe it got beat up. I'm not sure what it's problem is, hope I don't lose it.

>>1022718
Maybe an animal peed on it and harmed the roots?

>>1022531
mine don't look too great. I thought they required minimum care but now I'm starting to think I might have done something wrong

>>1022770
>mine don't look too great.

What looks off about them?

>>1022795
I'll post a picture later today, I just thought they would grow more and some leaves are already drying

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>>1022812
Onions from seed are apparently super slow, I learned that too this year
Sowed in early February, took until about mid-April to appear, and now look like this. Needless to say, unweeding them is a bitch, especially in the beginning when you can barely recognise them between all the other shit.
Unless they'll be really good, I think I'll revert to set onions only next year

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>>1022344
>>1022329
How old are they? They aren't much bigger then mine but look a lot woodier.
Also, this is my rainbow, it looks a lot different.

>>1022718
If it wilts to the ground, pull it up and check the roots. Those tomato plants look happy.

>>1022652
I have 5 hives. I found that reducing the entrance to as small as the bees can handle, it reduces robbing and pests because they can defend a choke point better than a wide area. It is especially important when you have new hives with only a couple pounds of bees.

>>1022826
Yeah, mine never came up and I was starting them indoors to get a jump on the season. I ended up buying onion sets. Weeding my bulbils-started elephant garlic was a true pain in the ass. At least they are large enough to do something with at the end of this season.

I'll probably start onion seeds as soon as my second season onions go to seed. It just seems like onions need a long long growing season and will take up extra space for a long amount of time than I'd like. No wonder so many people just use sets.

>>1021023
Grow well, little pepper!

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>tfw no rain and 16 hour days
Send halp pls

>>1022842
Yeah I hope they'll ripen in my (otherwise) cool climate (it often gets cold quickly in September, especially October), but the pack said to direct sow instead of starting indoors, we'll see

>>1022855
It finally cleared up here after raining for 3 days straight. Supposed to hit the 90s this weekend. All my plants are looking healthy. I go as long as possible without watering to let my plants get as natural an experience as possible. Also, what's the general consensus on just letting natural predators eat pest species in your garden? Because as far as I can tell, the people who do it(aka Varg) are just retarded.

>>1022855
>>1022859
Lots of rain and cool weather here. I need to make more tomato sucker cuttings and try to get them transplanted to make more plants. It is the perfect weather for it, but all I have left is crappy clay soil which is terrible to work with in this weather. My first cuttings are doing better than expected. Most have been standing up after wilting in a couple days of sun.

>>1022536
what kind of pies are these they look delicious

>>1022859
>>1022862
I have my tomotoes under a foil rain shelter, it usually is about 10-15°C hotter in there than outside. This is nice in March/April for growth, but in July 2015 we hit 40°C outside and they really didn't like that, let's hope we don't get these crazy swings again

Hey guys, first time posting. I planted generic tomatoes and herbs and had a few questions:

I sowed corn, pea and sunflower seeds with peas in both batches. Pea and sunflower sprouts are visible about 2wks later but no distinct corn leaves. Temp was 10-20 with extremes of 6 and 25, plenty of rain. Is corn dead? Should I replant?

Also, I like spicy but only ever so slightly. What common pepper can a wuss plant?

Thanks for reading

>>1022867
>Pea and sunflower sprouts are visible about 2wks later but no distinct corn leaves.
Do you mean the corn isn't sprouted out of the ground at all, or that it just has no leaves. Because corn looks like a piece of grass for a long time.

>>1022867
They corn should be okay, it just needs warmer soil. You can plant additional corn and if everything pops up, just chop off the ones that look the worst or are the smallest. It is always better to have way too much corn coming up because of how you should be thinning them and because of how they pollinate themselves.

>>1022838
I think the piri is around 1 year old, the Bolivian/Chinese around 2 years old, more or less. I let them grow then top them a lot, hence the woody stem, they're older than their size may say.
Your rainbow indeed looks very different, much more purple leaves than mine. I more and more think that mine are in fact Chinese 5 colors. The pods were rounder than Bolivian ones.

>>1022718
Chilis wilt around 32°C in full Sun exposure, no matter how much you water them. If they come back to normal at evening there's no need to worry, you can try to give them a little more shade though.

Anyone here had success with b vitamins as foliar fertilizer?

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>>1022859
Can't have any predators if they have nothing to eat.

>>1022889
Gotcha, ty.

And any recommendation on a mild pepper? I'm leaning towards Jalapeño>>1022889

>>1022915
>mild pepper

My go-to mild pepper is Hungarian Wax. They are a huge producer and are like 70days to maturity. Heat range depends on many environmental/soil factors and they can be 1,000 to 15,000 Scoville.

>>1022859
>Also, what's the general consensus on just letting natural predators eat pest species in your garden? Because as far as I can tell, the people who do it(aka Varg) are just retarded.

All do is kill pests on sight if I can catch them, block them with insect fabric, distract them with trap plants, and/or hose them off with water. This year I'll be vacuuming squash bugs I think. Like this >>1022911 I hose off the aphids and squash the eggs. If I see mantis egg foam I'll cut it off and bring it into the garden so it can hatch there. Having insect hotels for stuff like overwintering lady beetles also helps a great deal.

>>1022915
Cayenne isn't that bad supposedly. I'll find out soon

>>1022939
I gave in. White flies decimated my kohlrabi and brussels sprouts so badly kast year, so in that case I go the chemical warfare route now with Acetamiprid

>>1022939
I just leave them on my bait plants. No point in hosing them off unless the get really out of control. Those and a couple other groups of ladybug eggs will hatch and eat all the aphids. And then I will have more ladybugs and other predators around my garden in general.

>>1022915

>>1022938
This.

>>1022940
Cayenne isn't that hot, but not a mild pepper.

Also:
NuMex Suave Red/Orange - Habanero flavor without the heat.
Trinidad Perfume - mild, lemon-y flavor
Anaheim - go to mild pepper, versatile

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>>1022795
here, don't tell me they peaked because I won't believe you

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>>1023033

I'm going to build four 8'x3'x1' raised garden beds for late-season vegetables. So 32 cubic yards of soil.

Is topsoil good enough for this? Always mixed bags of top soil, manure, and peat moss before this, but 32 cubic yards of that would be a lot more expensive.

>>1022944
Place white paper/plastic under the plants to reflect light onto the bottom of the leaves. White flies can't stand the light so they move out. Once they are gone, pull up the paper/plastic so it doesn't end up burning your plants with too much sun.

>>1023033
>>1023036
Just pick them mid to late summer when the tops are dying off and there's that papery layer on the bulbs. They take about 85-95 days depending on variety and weather. Those look fine.

>>1023055
I assume not this year because grow season started. You can make a ton of compost yourself by saving yard trimmings and letting them rot. I don't know the exact procedure but leaves, on the ground, covered by something heavy and nonrotting will draw annelids. And if you layer it, it should make a pretty significant amount of compost over a summer.

>>1023055
use big cubes of pro mix for the bulk of it. mix in the other stuff you mentioned, plus maybe some blood and bone meal to get the fert levels up to what they would be in top soil.

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One of my tomato sprouts was topped by pests but, to my surprise, it ended up surviving and putting out some tiny buds.

However, has it been too stunted to be worth the trouble? Its neighbor is already a foot tall.
Would I be better off cutting a limb off the healthy tomato plant next to it and planting that in its place?

>>1023106
It hurts nothing to leave it. Volunteer tomatoes are popping up all over my place and I'm planting cutting off my older ones. It stretches out the season in regard to pests and vine age, basically allowing things to be a bit more robust in case of failure of one crop.

>>1023113
>It hurts nothing to leave it.
I have limited planting space. If it's not going to recover well I'd rather remove it and put a cutting there instead.

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>>1022838

>>1022864
Agar is actually pretty tasteless.

>>1023127
put some Cool Whip on it

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>>1023125
Haha, you the same guy that did this one? Love it.

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I'm also growing some dwarf cherry tomatoes, and strawberries. Should I clear out leaves that touch the ground? Or should I keep the general 'undergrowth' trimmed short, or just let it all be, or..?

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>>1022213

>>1023255
For healthy plants it won't matter, but just know that soil on the leaves can transmit disease pathogens/pests. That can be splashed up when watering/raining or simply laying on the soil itself. Mulch helps prevent most of this, but if you have a rainy season and they are outside, the mulch could harbor pests. Mulch when things are dry is best. Sand as mulch normally takes care of the pest problem in the rainy season.

Removing older leaves that touch the ground is up to you. Tying them up will ensure the plant can use them. Ones that show obvious signs of disease or pest damage should be removed or tied up, respectively.

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I haven't take out the trash and got some nice hard cat litter cardboard box, can I use this as plant pot of some sort?

>>1023349
Line it with a plastic bag and you are good to go. Drainage may be an issue.

>>1022748
Can't tell if you're joking?

>>1022890
>>1022842
Still wilted right now. When I typed the message last night at like midnight it was finally back to normal. Today is the first day it really hit 90ºF. Not sure what it's stressing over when everyone else is happy.

>>1023384
I've heard that undiluted urine can cause root burn, I've seen other posters talk about their pets peeing on plants and killing them as well.

>>1023055
>8 feet x 3 feet x 1 foot
That's 24 cubic FEET, anon.
Not even one cubic yard (27 cu. ft).
32 cubic yards is 864 cubic feet.
That's a little less than three full dump truck loads.
That's enough to cover your whole backyard under a foot of dirt.

>>1023055
>>1023422
Each one of my 8x4x1 beds takes 1cuyd (1 small truck load, like a ford ranger or in my case a datsun 521) for reference. Find a landscaping place or stone place and buy it by the half yard or yard. I pay $38/yd (that's with tax) for my compost.

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from what I understand basically any potatoe can spout and be used to grow more potatoes.

are there actual potaoes seeds too? In a survial scenario where I can take my seeds-box with me I'd like to add potaoes but I obviously can't take heavy knolls with me.

>>1023565
Yes, but just with apples, they won't grow true from seed

>>1023566
can you explain a bit more, I really have no idea. isn't just putting seeds into earth and give some water on top?

I tried to find potaoe seed for a while now but no online shop seems to carry any, for some reason. so I began to think there only knolls...

>>1023568
By using the tubers, you're cloning the plant so it has the same properties. If going from seed, the genetics change randomly and you're likely to get stuff with less output/area

>>1023570
well, I was going from a no-potaoes at all perspective so as long those random potatoes out of seeds are still edible, it's good.

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Holy sh***! I was just able to order a handfull of actual potatoe seeds. It seems to be the "Belle de Fontenay" type. It's litterally the only "seed" I found. Is there a potatoe seed conspiracy going on or something? Why is it so damn difficult to buy some!?

>>1023578
because they wanna maximize their profit hence why producing your own seeds is illegal in France for example, which is really fucked up

>>1023247
Guilty.
Watched a few "Agents of SHIELD" episodes last night and couldn't resist the joke. Sorry /hgm/

>>1023601
It was a good one. Haven't watched Agents of SHIELD, though. I avoid almost all live action comics based movies/shows like the plague.

>>1023384
Give it some water and shade. That's about all you can do.

>>1023565
With most cultivars of potato, getting them to flower and not drop the flower or developing fruit until it is ripe is rather difficult. If you can do that, yes you can save "true seed" and use it to grow new plants. Growing new plants from true seed is a bit difficult sometimes. While there may be a difference in the potatoes from this, you will be able to have a land race of potato seeds that you can develop for your area.

I have a few berries and seeds of Purple Majesty potato, from last season, that I tried growing this season. A few sprouted, one survived to be put outside but its root was eaten by a wire worm beetle larva and it died.

>>1023568
>>1023578
You've been searching the wrong term. They are called "true potato seed" (TPS).

https://www.google.com/search?q=true+potato+seed
https://www.google.com/search?q=true+potato+seeds+for+sale

https://www.cultivariable.com/product/potato/true-potato-seeds/potato-true-seed-tetraploid/

http://cipotato.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/TPS19266.pdf

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Anyone here ever grow millet?
Got a cockatiel and was going to look into keeping a little plant around that he can forage off of/tear apart/play on at his leisure.

Did get him a Cleyera plant for him to play on yesterday, he's still too wary to climb up on it but is more than happy taking chunks out of the leaves.

>>1023565
Yes there are potato seeds (true potato seed) that grow from a little tomato/nightshade looking fruit.

Seed potatoes are just small potatoes. only difference is storebought potatoes are conditioned to delay sprouting. But once they've started sprouting you can trust a storebought potato will grow.

Don't put it in the ground until a day or two after slicing it, you need the wound to have a chance to heal before you stick it in moist dirt.

>>1021110

Those look great even now before they've had a chance to settle. Good idea!

>>1023759
Are you worried about him extending that behavior to other plants?
Are cockatiels smart enough to know that they're only allowed to tear apart one specific plant?

My mother is starting a garden and doesn't know what she's doing. How do I convince her that instead of paying someone to haul away leaves and grass clippings, just to buy them back every spring as compost and peat, she should just put the into the garden box and let nature do its thing?

>>1023950
Composting everything organic is exactly what I do. Sticks, leaves, grass clippings, manure, etc. You name it, I compost it. Every bit of the soil in my raised beds is soil I've made myself.

There are parts of my soil underneath the top layer that refuse to absorb moisture.

Should i just water the fuck out of it until its forced to absorb moisture ?

>>1023974
Thanks! What about rhubarb leaves and banana and orange peels? I think I remember reading somewhere that worms won't do anything with those?

Also, can anyone second tilling under instead of tossing and buying back organics?

>>1023977
Sounds like a dense clay layer, excessive watering would only make it worse. I'd add either vermiculite or wood chips and mix it into the clay as deep as possible.

>>1023986

Not clay its multi purpose potting compost

>>1023983
Are those organic? Yes. Compost it. There are a number of ways you can do it. Regardless of what it is, if it is organic, you can compost it with the correct method matched for that thing.

>>1023977
>Should i just water the fuck out of it until its forced to absorb moisture ?

Yes. If it gets super dried out it repels water. You can poke holes into it with a stick to help it along.

>>1023987
Is not getting heavy when you water it? Compost should be sucking up water like a sponge.

>>1024006
>If it gets super dried out it repels water.
This. Give it a little water to dampen it and open up the fibres in the mulch, then 20-30 minutes later, water it fully.

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I have a virginia strawberry plant that was producing much larger than average berries (pic related is 2 of those berries next to some average sized berries from other plants). If it produces bigger berries this year I'm gonna cross-pollinate the parent plant with several of it's daughter plants and see if I can breed wild strawbs with larger berries.

Wish me luck anons.

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Since I'm posting about strawberries I may as well ask - I noticed that my f. virginiana plants seemed to have 2 different berry phenotypes. One phenotype has light-coloured seeds which appear similar to domestic f. ananassa, and the other has smaller, black seeds that are found in much deeper indents beneath the surface of the berry.

Anyone know what is up with this? These are all confirmed to be f.virginiana, so I am wondering if I have 2 different naturally occurring breeds or if the ones with lighter seeds have partly interbred with local domestic strawberries (since domestics have similar seed colouring).

Is white mold harmful to plants/roots?
There's some growing on the surface of my compost.

>>1024022
I've seen the same thing on mine. I think all strawberries do this depending on things like weather, sun, and nutrients.

Good luck with seed germination. I know you need to stratify them, but not much else. Probably acid bath too.

>>1024028
No it's just moist and the mold is breaking down organic matter and making it more readily available to the plant.

It's a good sign in my mind

>>1024028
No. It only attacks plants that are damaged in some way and only if it is the type that does it. It helps break down your compost.

>>1024022
>>1024040
I think my F. vesca cultivar does something similar. One type of fruit that is really tiny like the wild form (~5-7mm), and another one that is between wild and F. x ananassa size-wise (~10-15mm). Didn't check for other similarities/differences of the "types", but will keep an eye on it as more and more ripen every day now

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>>1024040
Also to add, at least F. vesca is really slow in the beginning. My plants stayed smaller than a coin for several months until they finally took off
Here an old pic of their first 3 months...

>>1024066
I like your idea of cross breeding. Have you done it with other stuff?

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>>1024066
...and what they look like now

>>1024070
You must've misunderstood me, no crossbreeding on my own involved.
It's just that you have to start F. vesca from seed as they don't make shoots that you could root like you can with regular strawberries

>>1024071
i thought you were
>>1024020

>>1021023
Grow well, little pepper!

>>1024062
F. vesca are both diploid, while f. ananassa is octoploid (its parentage being the octoploid f. virginiana x f. chiloensis) so I think it would be extremely unlikely for them to cross-pollinate (still possible though).

Is your f. vesca cultivar an alpine breed or is it the North American woodland variety? The latter is wild, so it might explain why you have more variety in traits.

>>1024118
>F. vesca are both diploid

I meant to say "F. vesca and F. alpina are both diploid"

>>1024070
I haven't yet tried crossbreeding, I only recently started cultivating wild plants and I think don't think it is worth bothering with domestic strains because they are so inbred that they have little or no variation, or they are unstable hybrids that can only reproduce asexually.

I have both f. chiloensis and f. virginiana seeds, so I am tempted to start my own homemade f. x ananassa strain and then breed it back with f. virginiana. I'd be curious to see if I could get a strain that maximizes the fruit size trait of the chilean while keeping the flavour of the virginia.

On a related note, I have wild red and black raspberries in my garden and last year I found out that the two had cross-pollinated naturally to produce a purple hybrid. Kinda neat.

>>1024118
It's a locally quite widespread German cultivar named "Rügen" which to my knowledge is fully F. vesca just selectively bred for larger fruit than the wild form.
Most fruits are indeed significantly larger than those you can randomly find in forests around here, but some randomly stay small, even on the same plant, a weird dimorphism going on there

>>1024125
Interesting, I've seen people make a distinction between north american wilds and European cultivated, but they probably come from the same ancestor since they look and taste so similar.

You euros have a pretty nice diversity of strawbs... here in Canada we have woodlands and virginias, but you guys also have musks, greens, and alpines. I planted all of those in my garden but they refuse to flower, maybe Canada's climate is somehow inadequate for them.

>>1024140
Well, my local climate isn't the best for them either, despite being 50°N they suffered a lot from a slight drought last summer, that's why I added mulch back in March to keep up soil moisture, plus I've also been watering them like crazy since March. Judging from their natural habitat (forests) they also seem to prefer slightly acidic soil, but my garden clay is around pH 8-8.5.
Also I know we apparently have around 3-4 native species here, but I never see anything other than vesca cultivated

>>1021073
I want that plant, how do i get?

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>>1021735
All of it looks tasty

>>1024213
Do Oyster mushrooms grow in your area? If they don't you can order spawn.

>>1024244
checked
no they don't. Sorry to bother you further, but do you have a go to website for purchasing them? Or any advice for growing them?

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REHHHHHH WHY IS MY SHIT GETTING REKT.

Seriously getting annoyed. They were so happy. Granted I get like 3 hours of direct light a day. Tomatoes have tomatoes and peppers have peppers yet they are dropping leaves and losing their green.

I applied 13-13-13 fert. pellets (23oz across 100sqft) on 5/4/17 upon noticing sadness occurring. Can't tell if nutrients, light, water, or disease problem.

S.O.S.

>>1024256
Probably root burn/nutrient lock or root rot.

>>1021638
>be deer
>see okra
>smell human
>take bite of okra
>tastes like shit
>fell plant so human knows it is not suitable for eating
>come back again
>plant still there
>human didn't get the message
>decide to fell plant every visit until he learns
>come back again
>what the fuck it doesn't even smell edible anymore
>fuck you human, enjoy your shitty inedible plants
>I'm out

>>1024278
I applied like 2/3 the dose it called for which was 2Lbs per 100sqft

>>1024256
Since more than one species of plant has it, it most likely means the soil needs more drainage and less water for the plants affected.

>>1024290
I guess I don't understand why these plants are so god damn sensitive. Not once this season have I had a normal plant. I did reduce watering however I got rain from Friday to Tuesday so it's pretty moist. These fucks are fragile. This is 100% compost beds. I built 3 more and tomorrow I will be filling them up. Each bed is 1cuyd, so do you think I should go with 2yds top soil 1 yd compost for those?

I hate slugs

>>1024298
I think you should let the plants put out their roots down into the ground.

Fuck that plastic liner. But that is just me, some jackoff on the internet.

>>1024307
Liner is only on the sides, it is an open bottom. It's because I didn't want to pay for treated wood. Occasionally you can see the water come out the bottom since the bottom of the bed isn't level with the ground.

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Can someone ID these?

Also fuck fungus gnats. They're not falling for any of my traps.

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Cleaned out the greenhouse so I could fit all my plants at last, Half of it was filled with bags of soil and perlite and used pots.
Gonna pick up some more big pots next week and transplant the final 3 peppers, the last 3 are going to my friends' place, he has a house and a proper garden, and will put em directly in soil.

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>>1024440
Some sort of Sempervivum I'd say, likely S. tectorum as it's the most often cultivated one.
They're succulents and don't need much water (I have some growing on stone walls where they can fall dry for weeks), that's the easiest way to get rid of the flies.
Bti emulsion helps too but takes time

wow, my seeds germinated in a coffee filter actually worked this time!

I haven't killed them yet!

>>1024298
>This is 100% compost beds.

They don't have enough drainage for that. You need to add sand to allow the water to drain out. The compost soil is like a massive sponge. Dig down a bit and see how wet it is. A quick fix is to let the soil dry out more between watering. The best fix is to add sand and repot everything.

>>1024447
How many peppers do you keep?

>tfw when the sun burned many of my potted peppers and keeps me from finally planting the rest in the bed

>>1024509
This. Really dig down, like 6 inches and see what the soil is like. I've almost killed a few plants because "oh, well the top inch is dry" while the bottom was waterlogged.

I've heard some people fight about sand in this thread. Sand is great for helping with drainage. Compaction can be helped with fluffier organic matter or perlite.

Also, they'd love more sun to be honest. Can't fix that one though, so work on what you can.

>>1024521
>>1024509

Sand does not provide enough porosity to help drainage. Unless your soil is >30% sand it will just aid in compaction

>>1024517
I'm keeping 5, but one of them is an attempt to combine 2 plants, and it's not looking too good, lol.

>>1024535
I've been using sand for over 8 years in my gardens to help drainage. It really works well. Loam is after all an equal mixture of sand, silt, and clay. That's 33.33333...% sand, fyi.

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>>1024521
>>1024535
It really depends, it seems. I have heavy clay soil, and when I 1:1 that with sand, I get fucking concrete after a waterying/drying cycle or two. Going 1:1:1 clay, sand, compost (2 year old) is a bit better, currently having my pot peppers in such a mix and with the current weather, they need up to 2 waterings/day (yes shit is dry almost to the bottom after a few hours in the midday sun)

>>1024570
We are talking about adding sand to 100% compost soil in >>1024256

>>1021977
What book is this?

Anyone have any experience using WWOOF in the US?

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>>1024509
>>1024521
>>1024570
These are my options for my 3 new beds. Will go with 50/50 Topsoil and compost probably

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An update on the garden at work.

My biggest okra

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>>1024610
And some brussel sprouts

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>>1024612
>>1024610
black-eye pea bushes

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>>1024614
>>1024612
>>1024610
More black-eyes

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>>1024615
>>1024614
>>1024612
>>1024610
The main strip, with brussels sprouts, okra and romaine lettuce

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And finally, watermelons

>>1024609

>EXPANDED SHALE
>$78/cubic yard

Absolutely outrageous

>>1024609
What is remix?

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yo yo my niggas
can pumpkins thrive in shady spots?
got these Atlantic giant pumpkins that've begun to sprout and I'd like to plant them outside and there's this bed on the west side of the house that I have my eye on for them but the thing is it only really gets sunlight for a few hours in the evening right as the sun is setting

will this be a problem?
if it will, what else could I put there that doesn't have a problem with little sun?

>leafs at the base of my potato plants are turning yellow
>they haven't flowered yet

weird

>>1024685
>will this be a problem?

Yes. They need more light, but also dew and rain will lay on them longer than if they were in full sun thus allowing molds and powdery mildew to start on the leaves.

>>1024713
Lots of rain lately?

>>1024743
>Lots of rain lately?

not really no it's been fucking hot (~30°C) so maybe they are suffering a bit

>>1024685
can you train the vine into more sun exposure?
pumpkin vines/leaves are huge as fuck but you can train that bitch into a nice long border if theres a direction it can reach sun. the spaghetti squash i grew last year was 3-4ft wide and got a good 10ft long, used it to fence off a section of the yard

leafy veggies & spring herbs if not, more shade means higher chance of overwatering so make sure they need the drink first. ginger does great in part/full shade + hot as balls weather, mist here and there for the humidity assist

>>1024609
REEEEEEEEMIIIIIIIIX

mosquito netting gets here today, did my fair share of summer squash surgeries the last few seasons so its time to try an actual solution. im so used to early vine death though, imagining a full-season squash plant kinda freaks me out

>>1024749
>fucking hot (~30°C)

What I wouldn't kill for temps that low here right now. That's a fine temp for potatoes. Lack of nutrients or too much water usually causes that problem.

>>1024776
Vine borer problem? I have enough plants this year that I'm going to experiment with making a white paint. Then use it to paint the stalks to see if it will repel the moths.

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>>1021729

Some more weird ass carrots

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Got this weird plant in my stestrawberry patch, ananyone know what it is?

>>1024921
Pokeweed. Eat it, anon. I promise it isn't poisonous. (My family eats pokeweed and it is the most foul smelling shit that stinks up the entire house and makes me gag.)

>>1024609
I'm not sure what you're up to but I don't think you should pay for this stuff. Enrichment can be completed with wintered leaves and other very easily found decomposed organics. Crop rotation is fine too.

>>1024926
Yes huh.
You can only eat very black, overripe berries from this plant and no other part. Pretty invasive too, if you want to chop it down and walk anywhere else on earth and find it.

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>>1024256
What the hell are you doing?
Stop using ferts. The tomatoes should be 3.5-4ft tall before flowering and THEN making tomatoes.
The shit you are putting into your plants is unnatural, stop growing them in shit and get sterile dirt. How the fuck you have peppers growing from a 8 inch plant when my organic mixed bells are 100 days old and barely finished rooting at 2 inches tall is beyond anything I can comprehend. You gotta fix your feeding and STOP using fert pellets. The plants grow in dirt, not in shit and chemicals. Anon was right, you have nutrient burn out the ass and your plants are nearly unrecoverable.

My neighbor has a 3 inch tall tomato plant with an inch wide tomato on it and the rest of the plant is dead. Are you miracle gro-ing the shit out of them or what? Seriously stop and pause and realize that your dirt is bad and your crops are ruined.

These are zone 6a organic potted beefsteaks, 50 stalks, 100 days old. They are close to flowering. Droopy right now while they soak up the spring water, they'll be perked up tomorrow.

I seriously can not tell you how the fuck your tomatoes started fruiting at 40-50 days old, but I can tell you don't know you need to grow the plants in DIRT.

Sorry for being an asshole but the quicker you realize your entire crop is fucked beyond flushing, the higher chance you have of actually growing vegetables this year, 20-30 days late. I'm being helpful.

>>1024946
>tfw nearly everything I'm growing started flowering just as I was setting them out and planting them April 6th
>tfw tomato plants have lots of fruit on the, some 1.5 inches wide (Cherokee)
>tfw Zone 5

I think mine are like 3 feet tall now. They have 1-2 trusses of tomatoes. About half I suckered, for extra plants, and the other half are going wild and have suckers that have fruit on them. I need to break out the bamboo stakes tomorrow I think, just for all the suckers I'm letting grow. My peppers are like 4 inches tall and flowering. I always end up with a pepper half shoved into the soil, if I don't prune the flowers off (a chore for tomorrow.)

I just grow my stuff in super rich soil I made. I agree there's too much fertilizer (especially since he's using compost as soil) and there's a drainage problem.

>>1024926
>>1024938
All parts of pokeweed are poisonous. Berries and roots are the most deadly. You can only eat the very young shoots that are less than 8 inches tall. You must peel the outer skin and change the water you are boiling them in 2 times before eating. Anything less and you are needlessly poisoning yourself. It is highly invasive though and the seeds will germinate readily. The berries are best used as a dye.

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>>1024946
2 Days ago. I jusrt got a hold of spring, rather than tap water, so I nailed them with it.
Brown pot is dug from beneath a pine tree, enrichesd with bone dry tea and a small amount of bone dry, used coffee grounds stirred in.
Black trashcan is 5 year old, ground sat unfertilized potting soil with perlite. Quite soaked through and rinsed out, it produced a bigger plant. Couple potato bugs came out of it, but were squished. Soil was free though.

All sprouts were the same Chinese beefsteak seed, about 75 in a solo cup which I dealt with as soon as possible, but the third planting was shit in the garden.

You can not grow your plants in poop, friend. Sorry to burst the meme of "poop makes plants grow better," but it doesn't. I hate to be such an asshole but I want you to have decent plants that taste good.

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>>1024610
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>>1024619
Fuck you with your giant ass plants. Are you DFW bro too? My okra is like 5" tall, still a little seedling.

>>1021052
What would you recommend for someone who knows barely anything about shrooms and suddenly wants to grow them?

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>>1024934
>>1024609
Filling three 8x4 beds that I built for a total of 6 right now. The first 3 were 100% compost and my plants are getting nuked with water so I'm waiting for them to either die or cheer up as it dries. They are also in an area with a lot of shade.

The plan right now is to get these 3 beds planted this weekend, they get about 8 hours of light each day. That will be my veggie zone and the 3 in the shade will be legumes, root crops, and leafy greens. Things that are ok with shade.

My dog killed one of my potato plants and trampled one of my lettuce plants :(

Why are doggos so mean?

>>1025044
It's not that he's mean, it's that he's poorly trained. My sister's dog used to eat my houseplants.

Ok So im growing tomatoes in a cooler environment without the aid of a greenhouse (completely outdoors)
Its recommended to only have 5 or 6 vines and then top them here so the fruit you do have has more then enough time to ripen.

My plants already have 5 or 6 vines now but are only about 4ft tall. ( i left a few side shoots on )
Should i top them now or let them grow taller and just snip off any vines that form?

>>1025044
You should build some raised beds.
In my experience doggos won't jump on elevated surfaces unless they have a reason to, like they smell food or something.
1.5 to 2 feet high should do it, I think.

>>1025048

Please respond.

>>1024824
>Lack of nutrients

it's the 4th year I plant them at the same spot, maybe it's taking its toll

Does raspberry trees need insects going from flowers to flowers to produced fruits?

My raspberry tree (in a container) is pushing A LOT of flowers. It was outside on my balcony but ants were eating the flowers. So got rid of the ants on it and put it inside my room.
Now the flowers are just drying without any berries starting. Some of the flowers are empty so I guess these were the ones the ants ate.

(PS. How to get rid of ants climbing from the floor up to my balcony?)

>>1024964
Compost and poop makes plants grow better.

Dont listen to this tard

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Ok So im growing tomatoes in a cooler environment without the aid of a greenhouse (completely outdoors)
Its recommended to only have 5 or 6 vines and then top them here so the fruit you do have has more then enough time to ripen.

My plants already have 5 or 6 vines now but are only about 4ft tall. ( i left a few side shoots on )
Should i top them now or let them grow taller and just snip off any vines that form?

>>1025048
>>1025120
>>1025143
Dude, /out/ is a slow board. Give it some time.

>>1025048
The shape of the plant doesn't matter, it is weather and fruit age plays the most part in ripening.

>>1025140
>raspberry tree

No such thing. Raspberries grow via canes and are not shrubs, bushes, or trees. Perhaps it is a mulberry tree? Yes, they all need insects to pollinate them.

>ants were eating the flowers

I've never seen that. Usually ants will gather nectar from flowers, but don't eat them.

>How to get rid of ants climbing from the floor up to my balcony?

Raid. Just spray a barrier line.

>>1025142
I think he means planting directly in feces that isn't composted properly. Though the second part "Sorry to burst the meme of 'poop makes plants grow better,' but it doesn't." is of course untrue. Side-dressing is a thing for instance.

>>1025160
>The shape of the plant doesn't matter, it is weather and fruit age plays the most part in ripening.


So top them now?

>>1025179

Flowers already?

My potato flowers are only just starting to form.

>>1025184
That's up to you. You can also root your cuttings.

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>>1025160
A tree, a bush, a cane... I don't know how to call it in English. In my mother tongue it's the same symbol.

Pic is a flower I've seen ants going into. I guess they ate the center (or whatever it's called) leaving it empty.

Should I spray raid in a circle outside the container and leave it outside?

If there's no insect pollinating I can't get fruits right?

Should I cut all the bloomed flowers (as I can't get fruit from them) and wait for the next flowers to open?

>>1025199
Got a photo of more of the plant? I'm not familiar with whatever that is.

Don't cut the flower, if they are not pollinated and are eaten, they should fall off on their own. There's always a chance something comes from them.

Yes, spray a circle around the container.

>>1025179
Welcome to the jungle, we got beans and vines.

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>dat sinking realization that the tunneling in your garden might not be moles after all...

>>1025232
Cute! You should keep it. I mean, he's not poisonous is he?

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My strawberries really "love" the 32°C weather
>not even June yet

>>1025234
All spiders are poisonous, anon. It is just a wolf spider. It was hiding under a pepper in a milk jug for a while.

>>1025239
We need a new thread lads!

>>1025240
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>>1025241
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>tfw shits the bed

>>1025246
Too late kiddo.

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>>1024967
yup, south fort worth, benbrook and 820 area.

It's just usual raspberry. Rubus crataegifolius
I guess.

I put it outside and filled the plate holding the pot with coffee grounds. I'll spray my balcony with raid when I'll buy a can.


>>1025245
>>1025246
This thread is far from the 10th page. Stop making new theads this fast.
Also, the butthurt dude that made "the first thread" forgot the title and used a "non standard" OP's pic. Are you the same anon that jumped into making a new thread with an anime image OP as soon as the current one hit 300 replies few weeks ago?

>>1025320
>"non-standard pic"
That's the original mate. Before /b/ invaded.

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>>1025322
the original is this

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>>1025322
I am not in gardening for long enough to have seen an OPs pic different from the current one. I have seen this pic lurking an old fag history lesson.

Things change though. I am still butthurt myself that linux threads on /g/ became /fglt/ instead of /flt/. Newfag mod even banned me for pointing this out few month ago... Anyway, whatever pic, threads are being made too fast.

>>1025326
I obviously meant the original that the current one is based on.

>>1025332
I remember that history lesson. And true, that is the ORIGINAL image because we had the "drawn" one and the current one on which that is based.

Anyway, you're right. Both threads we're too early.. but the second OP is definetly being a child.

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What pest is this on my Euonymus alatus?
I live in Southern Ontario. I noticed a lot of the shrub was wilted and upon further investigation notices this all over the shrub
1/2

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>>1025630
Some type of insect visible here

>>1025630
>>1025632
Aphids?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bean_aphid#/media/File:Aphids_May_2010-2.jpg

>>1025645
oh shit i didnt know aphids were black too.

What do?

>>1025654
I'm a newb myself, you should probably ask it in the new thread, this one is on its way out >>1025243
I have read that just hosing them off works, I've only had a few myself and just wiped em off, haven't seen any since.

What can I graft onto a (red I think) maple tree? I would like to avoid cutting down this little tree, but I don't want to let it grow to its full size as a maple where it is either.