Batoning, is it a meme or do people actually do it?

all i can say is the person that made that image and its accompaniments doesnt go outside. i mean how could they, if they have have the ability and time to do all that. how the fuck do you even put subtitles on a video?

>>1020295

People do it. It's nothing new either, the earliest written article about batoning, was in 1920.

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Quality Thread, OP.

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>>1020297
>how the fuck do you even put subtitles on a video?

Make a text file with .srt file extension. Just learn how to make one by googling. Then add it to the vid in WebM for Retards

while each board has their signature memes; this batonning thing is the most banal bullshit on 4chan.

this thread is a cup of reheated assvomit, the OP should baton himself.

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>>1020393
>t. Batonny Chop Chop Babby Bushkekker

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Just no.

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>>1020308

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>>1020308
>I'm literally shaking now

>>1020295
I've done it for shits and gigs. Wouldn't recommend it as a habit, but it's ok with small diameter wood.

>>1020308
>>1020312

not much makes me laugh
but this...

>>1020295
Oh look its this thread again

Saege

>>1020295
BATONNNINEIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE CHOPPY CHOP!!!

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>>1020295
muh schteeel knaahvs. mmmm hittin' dem knaaavs.

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>>1021231
Are you okay, kid?

>>1021482
What is this from?

>>1020312
>excalibur

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>>1021489
A typical batonny chop chop youtube channel where the guy beats knives against rocks to test their durability/ductility. He destroyed a tree via batonny chop chop in that same area.

>>1021489
I think that one is a nutnfancy vid from a year or 2 ago, him and his friends were beating the fuck outta rocks and dead wood with a couple knives

>>1020295
If you don't use a 10 dollar wallmart survival knife then why couldn't you batton?

>>1021595
nutfancy is an unbearable gay ass faggot

>>1020297
Dude. I spend all winter long making shitposts and memes and honing photochop skillz. Rest of the time i am out

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>>1021622
You don't recognize any of those knives, do you?

>>1021675
this guy is the worst sperger mall ninja ever videotaped

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>>1021680
ikr

>>1020312
The man who is able to obtain that knife will be heralded as the king of /out/.

>>1020312
>>1021685
K-King /Out/ther?

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>>1021685
>>1021493
kek

>>1021736
>Chopping wood on a curved surface
>All those girls sitting around watching
>That pan out at the end to reveal they're 10m from a road in a campsite

This just reeks of a guy wanting to show off his incredibly survival skills and spilling spaghetti everywhere.

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>>1021741
People who baton are not exactly the smartest rock in the box. The act of batoning actually demonstrates one of the many things they do which are pretty stupid.

>>1020295
it doesn't work in real life, timber is either too tough or the baton you find is too soft and murky.

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>>1021793
Don't forget all the support equipment you need to baton.

>>1020312
it always amazes me what you can do to a carbon v srk

>>1021830
i have seen a guy cut down a tree batoning. it took a while but he did it.

>>1021834
Why did he needed to cut down trees?

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>>1021834
>cut down a tree

How large was the tree diameter and more importantly why?

WTF is an Axe you guys?

>>1021850
see
>>1020308

>>1021859
that's a hatchet
my question still stands

>>1021864
A hatchet is a type of axe.

>>1021482
AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Batonny fags will defend this

>>1021741
Dude all you had to say was BATONNY CHOP CHOP!

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>>1021837
>>1021839
DOODS you don't GET IT. whut if it wuz a SERVIVAL SITUACHION!?!????

Besides, there's like a kajillion of other trees in the forest. so liek who currs.

I have an ESEE6 I bought years ago when I was more impressionable to memes.

Solid knife. I've baton'd with it; even used it as a hatchet for shits n giggles. Got the job done.

I'm not very /out/smart but isn't a hatchet the proper tool for what these tards are trying to do?
Why are they trying to chop trees with boutique knives?

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>>1021736

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>>1021905
You are correct. You can also use a froe.

>>1021837
he just wanted to show you can if you want to i guess.

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>>1021905
Because meme life is best life.

>>1022202
Battonny-webm anon, you're the best. Youre doin the lord's work.

>single handedly dismantled bush-cuckery on this board by the power of webms.

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>>1022399
It really isn't difficult when there's so much material to work with.

>>1022399
>>1022400
having an autistic opinion is fine, but samefagging borders on psychopathic

>>1021939

>step 1, spend a long ass fucking time making a wooden hammer

>>1022400

This looks faked, you can see there's a mark on the back of the knife right where it breaks, and he doesn't even skip a beat when the end of the knife snaps right off

>>1022409
while thats possible, theres this mod people have done to their knives where they drill an arc into the spine to allow more surface area contact with a fire steel. though you can see here why that would be dumb

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>>1022409
>>1022415
That model of knife has that feature when you buy it. I agree that it is fuck tarded to have it at all. Again it shows the mentality of people who would baton with their knife in the first place.

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>>1022416
>>1022400
>>1022409
https://www.knifecenter.com/item/BU0060BKSBH/Buck-060-Buck-Hood-Hoodlum-Survival-Knife-Fixed-10-inch-Carbon-Steel-Blade-Micarta-Handles

>$169.95
>$169.95
>$169.95
>*SNAP*

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>>1022404
>having an autistic opinion is fine
see that's where you and I differ.

>>1022400
MOAR MOAR!!!
SING TO ME MY ANGEL OF BATTONNY-WEBM MUSIC. SWEET SWEET WEBMS OF BATTONNY DESTRUCTION.

>using knives for axe jobs

jee whiz i wonder why

>>1020308
>BG
>buy Bear Grylls knife
>surprised when it breaks

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>>1022501
>*heavy breathing*

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>>1022508
>buying a Winchester brand knife

i baton with my BK2 often. i hope it doesnt break

>>1022511
I think there's a few BK's in the OP either 9 or 2. Probably 9 since most people seem to use those for batonny chop chop.

>>1020295
Yes only retards though. Normal people without mental disabilities just use an axe.

>>1022501
>see that's where you and I differ.
actions speak louder, and yours are screaming

>>1022513
personally i find that the short length of the knife helps because i can only baton logs about 4 inches in diameter, thus im not tempted to baton YUUGE hunks of wood.

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>>1022565
That doesn't stop some people.

>>1021482
just... why?

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I don't think being on page 7 is appropriate for this thread.

>>1023635
YEAH. You hit that stick with your knife. YEAH. BUSHCRAFT.

>>1023749
Some people just have more energy than sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKr1FFHLZqo

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This thread doesn't have enough webms.

>>1023843
>>1023843
This is ART anon.

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>>1023843

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>>1021482
how can you be that retarted to batton a rock
JUST HOW FUCKING RETARTED HAVE YOU TO BE

>>1023971
>how can you be that retardy to battony
ftfy

>>1023971
but seriously tho, battonny bushy-cuks will defend this.
>muh steel wasn't stronk enuff
>muh impropurr rock battonny tekniqs.
>$300 dollur knaf? whut trash, shudda spent murr moneh on stronk steel

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>>1023997
Reading knife forums where people are pro-batonny chop chop will make you stupid and blind with abject rage if you let it get to you. It can however be a source of unending hilarity as people whine over breaking $100+ knives via ignorant abuse. When the knife breaks it is like there entire world goes on pause for them to contemplate what has just happened. Invariably, they will try to piece it back together like somehow this will fix the tear in their reality. Then they move on to making disparaging remarks about the knife, the steel, the company, etc, in order to feel better always ending in "I wouldn't take that with me in a survival situation" or similar remark.

>>1020295
I do it. Not very often and not habitually but carrying a large knife with a thick spine to split thicker deadwood is easier than taking a hatchet or axe out with me. But I don't beat the bitch with a hammer or cut down a live tree to process. That's generally frowned upon in my area and there's plenty of deadwood. But I also don't fancy myself a "survivalist", either. All that shit is is glorified camping. But yeah, it's done. But if you think I'm going to beat the ever living fuck out of my blade for 3 days in the brush to boil water you've lost your mind.

>>1024010
dude this is like a master's course on Battonnieology. You have gazed deep into the dark depths of battonnydom.

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>>1023992
>why no use axe instead and not look like a complete sus
there m8 . fixed that even moer

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>pic related

>>1021675
Tactical is so fucking weird, but his reviews generally aren't all that bad.

Threads like these really made me realize there are a fucking shit ton of "knife test" videos online. Like 90% of them use batoning as a "good test" for testing knives.

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>>1024183
Holy crap, my memes are spreading all over /out/ these days. Thank all of you anons so much for liking them!

>>1024648
Tanx for making them buddy.

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>>1024688
You're very welcome, friend.

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>page 9

Not allowed.

Also, here's the correct tool and method of making kindling for a standard camp fire.

How is one supposed to collect firewood if they don't do batoning?
Just wondering. I guess I should carry an axe or something.

>>1026971
see
>>1021830

>>1020308
>has a hatchet
>uses it to hit the knife
>Honey, don't curse
>this shouldn't have happened

1000 keks

>>1020295

It's fine if you do it with a knife designed for it.

It's a waste of energy as a Thatcher will do a better job with less effort.

But hey, live and let live.

>>1026971

Branches and sticks; break them off and up with your hands and feet

You use the knife for kindling

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>>1020308
>i'll buy you new one, hun.

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>>1020295
I don't get the point of this thread. /out related peop,e I know IRL will baton. I have batonned. Every guide I know that's out related will describe baton ing and it's uses. Is this a Meme? an ebin out inside joke, like when /k/ shots on glock owners?

Anything that is small enough to be batoned should be put in the fire the way it is. The whole concept is fucking retarded, just pick up sticks and twigs the appropriate size for starting a fire. If you are ever batoning in a survival situation you deserve to have your knife break and to die after destroying an indispensable survival tool. I batoned one time with a cheap knife just to see what it was all about, it was a pointless waste of time and effort and I felt like a jackass after doing it.

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>>1028386
>batoned with a cheap knife

Only white people. You'll never see an injun do that fag shit.

>>1028375
I don't baton because I'm not a fucking moron who abuses my tools.

If I, for some stupid reason, need, "firewood," in the shape of autistic sticks made from log rounds, I'll use my hand saw and axe. I'll just use deadfall twigs and stuff instead. The most I'd use my knife for in fire making would be to make an autismo featherstick, but I never need to make one and never knew they existed until the internet was invented. I'd rather make a fire faster with far less work than all that bushkekker bullshit.

>>1028386
>I batoned one time with a cheap knife just to see what it was all about, it was a pointless waste of time and effort and I felt like a jackass after doing it.

kek

>>1028425
That's because they didn't have metalworking until the colonists and settlers came over the pond.

>>1020295
I baton all the time when I need clean cuts in green wood for bush-craft, making traps (which I never catch anything with), rough dove-tails for framing shelters

far better than hacking into the wood and hoping you get the right depth of cut

I do it sometimes as well when cutting down small trees at ground level

It always just seemed like common sense to me, but people always fuck it up
use your knife like a chisel head

would you try to chisel through a huge dead log?
clearly not, waste of time, wrong tool for the job

would you cut against the grain, rather than making a "V" like you would with an axe?
no, you would cut a V just the same way

would you hit a tempered steel tool with another steel tool?
no, idiot.
you don't hit the back of an axe-head with a hammer do you, it deforms the eye of the axe
(note that indian axes, railway axes, other axes with no eye are OK for this if you're sensible)
you baton with a knife and a mallet, a piece of wood is a mallet, a rock wraped in cloth is a shity mallet, a steel hammer is not a mallet

>>1028386
Don't know what you expected from the batonnie choppy chop chop.
>>1028425
shitty bait
>>1028375
y batonnie when you can just burn wood?
>Every guid I know
read more guides and not just bushcrafter horseshit

>WHERE ARE YOU BATONNIE CHOPPY GIF ANON, THE BUSHY KEKS ARE GETTING UPPITY.

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>>1028598
>I baton all the time

Stopped reading there.

>>1028615
I'm here anon, calm yourself.

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>>1028560
We made stuff out of meteorites :^)
>>1028615
I've been hunting/trapping my entire life. Never once did i see somoene smash a knife into a log with a stick. Seen plently of whites do it though. Whites do so much gay retarded shit.

>>1028623
I know it's bait, but come on

I usually take a large bush knife as opposed to a "combat" knife, at which point battoning is a breeze
why people persist in bring bayonettes and fighting knives innawoods is beyond me

you only cut a few straight grained pieces to start the fire, as which point you can add larger logs as-is

but like I said, mainly it's for making neat notches in wood to build things as you require

>>1028765
>Whites do so much gay retarded shit.

A lot of that is due to the lack of proper upbringing and tradition by their fathers. This is why you see a shitload of solitary "bushcrafters" with baton knife test vids on youtube.

>>1028768
I rarely ever need a knife while camping and I only bring an "Old Timer" folding knife that has 3 blades.

>>1028775
a lot of people don't, maybe I could do the same myself

>>1028775
>A lot of that is due to the lack of proper upbringing and tradition by their fathers.
Yeah. That's a huge problem in my community. Yung Chug thinks he's a real G, but in reality he is the most useless person. Can't even carve a pair of snowshoes. Even 10 year olds can do that shit.

>>1022583
> batoning straight at your benis

>>1028849
Proper batonny tekniks:
>buy a 'spensive knife.
>post picutres all over innanet talking about how stronk it is but it wasn't sharp outta the box.
>waddle into back yard
>beat the knife savagely with rocks, logs, hatchets and axes.
>take a break by pissing on a saw
>continue beating until it breaks
>after broken, attempt to put the knife back together, 'eeery so often the metal fuses back together so be sure to do it a few times
>take the log your were beatin' the knife with and whack yourself in the nuts
>get on the innanet and complain about said knife, defend batonny chop chop, watch vids of guys destroying knifes
>rise and repeat.

>>1029021
>but it wasn't sharp outta the box.

kek

>>1023837
>the sword in the stump

>>1023843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAwWPadFsOA

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>>1029063
>>1023843
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1496369349225.webm

>earphone warning

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>>1029090
oh christ my sides

>>1020308

holy shit where can i get the full video of this

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>>1020308
But MOOOOOM

>>1021675

Kek

>>1023841

>Taiwan

I bet he blames this failure on the steel's country of origin...

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>>1023971
>>1021748
o god ... another one to the chamber ...
>E LUK AT MI . IM BATONIG CHOP CHOP
>LUK IM KUTTING WUD IN MUH DIREGDION
>WUUBZIE
thank fucking god dad taught me how to "properly" use the goddamn nife ...
>never cut towards yourself ... you fucking dumbass

>>1028623
he is testing the gear he got for free so you don't have to.

>>1029244
Yeah, you are correct in that. I think that his main problem is that he was getting tired. I'm sure he already knew never to cut towards himself in any manner. However, that video it fairly long and he was doing a lot of work in that amount of time without any resting at all. Tiredness is a huge factor in accidents just like that. What you see is a lack of knowledge and experience about proper resting while working. He also does not look very well in shape and most likely has some problems with his blood glucose levels between meals. That in itself will dumb you down to the point of making stupid mistakes you'd never make with a clear head.

Bascially,

1: Don't abuse your tools (batoning).
2: Don't abuse yourself (resting for a few minutes after a few minutes of work; eating right for work purposes)
3: Don't cut towards yourself.
4: Keep your work area clean at all times.
5: Your work area should be as comfortable as possible (he does fairly well with that one at least).
6: Have a work buddy (watch out for each other to make sure both are using correct techniques, are resting/eating properly, are int he proper state of mind, and help out by taking turns while resting [humans are meant to be social!])

>>1029254
Purposely abusing at tool isn't really testing it. If you are a company like Cold Steel and want to show the public just how brutal you can be with the tools to show durability then that is great (and entertaining). But, the end user should never use tools in any manner the manufacture has not specifically shown or stated as being a proper use for that tool.

This is why knife companies do not cover batoning breakages in their warranty and usually don't even respond to queries about it when it happens. They tend to get flooded with those types of things and companies tend to file them as, "abuse of tool/warranty voided".

>>1020295
I don't get what kinda crap you guys use, mostly you americlaps.
I've batoned with my knife on almost every trip i've been on, and i've used the same knife for 6 years now. never had one single problem.

>>1029476
>muh anecdotes

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>>1020295
I use a Fubar for splitting or chopping.

It is also good for digging when needed.

>>1029305
>Purposely abusing at tool isn't really testing it.
yeah it's called destruction test. it's nice to know what it takes to break your tool. helps you develop an appreciation. i thought the fiskars axes are really fragile and shit, until i saw a video where a guy tried to destroy it and had a real fucking hard time. shit was brutal.

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>>1020295
today I had only a folding saw with me. I also used it for cooking ugh.. Iam a strangE person now?

>First I was uncomfy because I had NO knife
>but den

Iam a bad person now ?

when these people shown how stupid this really is they go like "chill bro we just wanna have some fun in the woods"
what is entertaining about beating on a knife? for americans everything can be fun no matter how impractial it is. driving the biggest most consuming cars, shooting and blowing things up, worshipping random gods for the sake of it, because you live a hollow life
when are you going to die

>>1029635
All you need to do is use a tool properly and you'll instantly know its limits. Because, if it can't handle the job it is meant to do then it will break.

Batoning is a subculture. You don't see 1000s of screwdriver tests where people use the screwdriver as a chisel by beating it with a mallet. Why not? Because there's no culture built around abusing screwdrivers in a specific way. Screwdrivers just aren't "cool" enough. However, knives have a fucking massive culture built around them. Both batoning and destruction testing are a subcultures of that. Really terrible ones.

>>1029304
You forgot the sucky sucky treat.

>>1029649
But did ya baton with it bro?

>>1029090
Fan fucking tastic.

>>1029541
I've batoned with folding knives.
Swiss Army Knife, Okapi, Opinel etc


Batoning is completely safe if you understand how knives work.

>>1029304
>Have a work buddy
rofl you faggots make everything sound so complicated. i have been using knives since i was a child only cut myself like twice in 30 years (not counting minor cuts where the bleeding is almost nonexistent)

the most serious cut was swinging a knife at a branch of softwood cutting right through it and stopping it in my left knee. i was 8-10 the other was much later i was 30-something, i tried to use a pocket knife to pry off some bark from a big trunk it was not the proper tool for the job and i was in a rush because the others kept on walking and leaving me behind. stupid idea. stabbed myself in the finger when the knife got lose from prying but the bleeding only required a bandaid.

it's true what they say you have to think through where the blade can go and don't be there! and you can of course cut towards yourself but only if you employ the proper stops. and don't rush with a sharp tool. that simple the rest is bullshit.

>>1029754
>All you need to do is use a tool properly and you'll instantly know its limits. Because, if it can't handle the job it is meant to do then it will break.
you really don't get it do you? you have absolutely no idea what i'm talking about... oh man. you don't want your tool to break if it can't handle the proper tasks for it or even you fucking up once or twice. that's moronic. you want to be able to trust that thing. you want to be careful about not abusing it sure but you also want to be able to trust it.

if you have the money to buy two from each things and abuse one to craps to know it's limits fine then. if you watch these tests online that's fine too you can learn from them. of course one tool can break from the same strain while the other remain whole of the same product line because there are unique differences to the heat treat and annealing always. but you see 10 video about it you can see if yours was only defective and it shouldn't have broken or it was a likely failure to happen and you were a moron.

there is nothing wrong with this. and btw i would baton my knife no second thoughts if it was ever truly necessary. i carry a light 3" folder as backup blade always so i'm not gonna lose my cutting capability.

>>1020308
The funniest thing about this video is people find it funny / are surprised a knife breaks... when you hit it with a fuckin axe

>>1026775
what is this... thing? and why does it have a baton in the knife?

>>1030713
>>1030710
>t. fatherless armchair /out/ists

>>1028375
>like when /k/ shots on glock owners?

Funny you should mention Glock in a knife thread. They have a line of knives. The Glock 81 "The Survival Knife 81 (Feldmesser 81)" is an extremely dependable knife. It is the only knife I'd recommend that doesn't have full tang yet has a spine saw and water proof cargo compartment in the handle. I still wouldn't baton with one.

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>>1020308
>god's work

>>1020312
>>1021493
>>1021685
>>1029058
>>1021733
Indeed, a magical sword giving the divine right to rule over /out/, bestowed by the Loli of the Lake

>>1030761
It's tough, but a shit knife.

>>1030761
get out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQHAdBxOSSE

>>1020295
guys I was ironically told to go >>/out/ and decided to check this place out and I have no idea what batonny is why are these guys hitting their knives into things?

>>1030916
>why are these guys hitting their knives into things?
because they can.

>>1030920
oh okay

>>1030750
btw i can sometimes forget for a few minutes my father is dying from cancer. thx for the reminder.

>>1030874
The grind could be better, but then the edge wouldn't last as long. It is actually too tough. Meaning it is so beefed up that the edge is, "clumsy".

>>1030908
>knee jerk reaction from hearing "glock"

I feel ya, but reasons.

>>1030964
Spend more time with him and learn why batonny chop chop is a noey no.

>>1030984
>learn why batonny chop chop is a noey no.
it's fine you have been told a hundred times why some morons fail at it if you do it properly it's okay.

>>1030916
Because batoning with an axe would be stupid.

>>1031002

make a webm of you doing it properly

>>1031013
maybe one day when the knife i'm making from a file is finished. but plenty was made already youtube is full of them. the basic mistakes are:
>hitting the blade off center in any direction
>letting the blade twist while batoning
>trying to split wood too thick for the knife
>hitting too hard
>hitting with something harder than wood
you have to work hard to ruin a knife batoning these tips will help you if you wish to do it.

>>1031024
Lol whut?

basic mistakes of a screwdriver:
>not putting the screwdriver in the screw
>using the wrong screwdriver
screwdriver doesn't brake

basic mistakes of using a hammer
>not hitting the nail
>hitting your thumb
hammer doesn't brake

There's alotta tools that are like this- in that they are readily used to accomplish a task and they don't brake because of some vague, esoteric set of rules.

Sounds to me like maybe a knife isn't made to batonny chop chop wood? Especially if ur not batoonieizing any wood thats "too thick for the knife" wouldn't that imply most wood? Whats wrong with just finding wood the rite size in the first place and setting that on fire?

>>1031615
>because of some vague, esoteric set of rules.
it's really just common sense. you can baton a knife there is nothing wrong with it a knife is just a metal wedge with a handle. but appropriate amount of force must be used for the geometry of the wedge.
>Sounds to me like maybe a knife isn't made to batonny chop chop wood?
who said it was? it's still fine if you have to you have to.
>"too thick for the knife" wouldn't that imply most wood?
i would say most vids you see where people baton they are doing it all wrong with wood that is too thick for it.
>Whats wrong with just finding wood the rite size in the first place and setting that on fire?
nothing it's the approach all sane people prefer.

splitting wood while batoning a knife thorough almost guaranteed to violate the rule about not hitting the knife off center. hitting the tip is just retarded.

>>1031615
>Whats wrong with just finding wood the rite size in the first place and setting that on fire?

Batoning is improvisational "emergency" technique. Just like opening a paint can with a screwdriver, or using it as a prybar or a punch.

The idea behind batoning is to split wood in order to get to it's dry core so so you can make kindling to start a fire.

Somewhere along the line it became sort of a test for toughness.

>>1031626
>The idea behind batoning is to split wood in order to get to it's dry core so so you can make kindling to start a fire.
no the idea is that you can use your knife to do axe work even tho you don't have an axe and any weight behind your knife. you have to work the same way with a knife than an axe when you cut limbs you just have to be more careful.

batoning through a log especially hardwood log that twists and or has knots is just asking for losing your tool.

>>1031622
>hitting the tip is just retarded.

Using the knife to start the split, then continuing with a wooden wedge is much safer - and more efficient.

But it looks far less cool so nobody does it.

Also, using a hammer or a rock to force a knife through a piece of wood is technically not batoning.
Batoning requires you use a piece of wood.

>>1031629
You're being stupid and irrational.

>>1031632
>Using the knife to start the split, then continuing with a wooden wedge is much safer - and more efficient.
obviously
>But it looks far less cool so nobody does it.
i have seen plenty vids tho.
>Also, using a hammer or a rock to force a knife through a piece of wood is technically not batoning.
i'm unclear but it should as hell not be done to most knives. there are actual knives designed to be hit with a hammer but that's rare as fuck and a rock is still a bad idea even then.

>>1031633
really? how so please tell me more about what is hurting your poopoo?

>>1031629
no the idea behind batoning is breaking knives for "knife destruction test" videos on youtube

>>1031644
at least that is what those faggots call batoning.
it's like you call jerking off with a prolapsed anus "sex" and pretend that's all there is to sex.

>>1031653
>dat analogy

gb2/b/, kid.

>>1031656
deal with it batoning is a perfectly valid technique and it is not at all about splitting logs and especially not about splitting logs way too thick.

>>1031661
It is tool abuse, pure and simple. You deal with that, kid.

>>1031720
not if you do it right. taking lid off of paint cans with a screwdriver is not tool abuse even tho it was not designed for it quiet a lot of people have been doing it with great success.

same is with batoning if you know what you are doing. but if you think your screwdriver is a prybar or your knife is a froe you may break it obviously.

What if you were to battony chop chop using a hatchet instead of a knife. Is that less retarded?

>>1020295
Get a hooker ok. And don't cut her up or show her any of this shit or any knife and pay her too don't be a jerk

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>>1031835
There's a special tool for removing paint can lids. Using this tools instead of a screwdriver ensures you don't fuck up the paint can lid.

>>1031892
exactly. but if all you have is a screwdriver it will have to do. and boy it did do a dozen times already.

>>1031901
>that one paint can with the fucked up lid that dries out

Sure thing, kid.

>>1031932
it never happened to me or anyone i know you really need to be a moron to manage that.

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>>1032425
>muh anecdotal evidence

>>1032522
anecdotal evidence is still better than a completely hypothetical statement with no basis in reality nignog. at least it might just happened.

Batoning is fine if you use common sense

>use a sturdy innawoods knife, like 1/5" thick carbon steel ideally
>use a heavy branch as a club, not anything metal like the back of an axe head etc
>aim your chop chop so that it doesn't intersect with any knots in the wood, you want to be in line with them

>>1032536
but y tho? Batonny cucks have never been able to 'splain this beyond
>muh wildahness skillz
>muh emergahncy sitchuachion
wouldnt it be better to spend energy collecting wood and keeping your knife sharp and unbroken?

>>1032557
it has happened to me before that everything was so wet i had to split branches to get the dry middle, it took me an hour of constant splitting and nurturing the fire before it got strong enough to dry wood out with a wind tunnel and become self sustaining.

fortunately i had a hatchet on me beside my knife but if i had not, it would have been baton time. i don't think there was anything dry and it was pretty dark. stumbling around trying to find some obscure dryer shit to burn didn't feel like a real option.

>>1032563
I have never had this problem, even when it's raining for weeks straight. Then again, I take the extra minute to find some decent dead standing. Dunno dude, it's a nice trick you've got but I'm still unconvinced that in a survival or emergency situation the batonny choppie is something to do. Too much risk for breaking tools, injury, blunting tools to justify doing it.

>>1032568
yeah well if i had more time before dark i may have done better and easier. it was not very easy fire i had to use a whole candle for accelerant to even get it started with feather-sticks made from middles and small relatively dry twigs. and then it was an hour long race with the dwindling fire and making dry kindling. i may have lost still if not for the wind. i made a wind tunnel from burning wood and ember it worked like a bellow actually started drying out wood.

you can avoid a lot of problems with preparation and planning, i had to improvise because i didn't account for the fog and god awful humidity that drenched everything and because i arrived after dark at the campsite with no preparation. but shit like that typically can happen when you find yourself surviving in the middle off nowhere.

it was an experience i won't forget. and i go nowhere without a few candles in my kit. in my opinion it's even better than fatwood.

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>>1032597
This is true, sometimes fires need to be built quickly.

>lighter, more versatile, edible
dude why don't I carry candles?

>>1031720

>kid
what a flaming homo.

>>1032602
you can also waterproof shoes and bags with it or make waterproof seals on containers. it's better than liquid accelerants because it lasts forever and doesn't spill out or evaporate. even if it breaks it's still usable. it has many uses and will make humid wood burn very well. you can also make a makeshift lantern from them with a bottle you hit the bottom out. they light readily from a lighter (or even a spark if charred) and keep flame long enough to light some more stubborn stuff.
cheap as fuck too.

>>1020295
What kind of a monster would batton an opinel?

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>>1032612
If you start a candle thread I will be there.

There is much to discuss.

>>1032523
Every paint can I've ever seen that was opened by a retard using a screwdriver had the lid fucked up. People who can't brain the right tool are morons more often than not.

>>1032563
>can't start a fire because everything was wet excuse

Fucking A, learn how to start fires in torrential rain at night where you can't see shit for the water in your eyes and darkness.

>>1032603
>found the kid

4chan is an 18+ board, kid.

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>>1032663
YES. GET IT.
>>1032706
>That unnecessary thumb endangerment
makes sense

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>>1032663
>>1032706
>muh survival skillz

>>1020295
>39 unbelievable tool hacks
>you won't guess what happens next

>>1032662
>learn how to start fires in torrential rain at night where you can't see shit for the water in your eyes and darkness.
that's the idea yes.

>>1032663
wtf is that knife made of? some kind of tool steel i imagine but what?

>>1032656
nah the trick is pretty simple you don't just flip it open in one go but go around losening and lifting little by little. i guess you live in moron land. here even small kids can do this.

>>1033295
Sounds like a lie to me, kid. People who don't use tools proper rarely do anything in their life successfully.

>>1033295
>>1031892
>>1031901
>>1031932
Lol this is the stupidest thing I've ever seen argued. Opening a paint can w a screwdriver doesn't risk destryong the screwdriver. There's a reasonable chance that opening a paint can with a screwdriver will result in it being fine. It's not ideal, but its fine for some people.

Batonny choppie chop on the other hand:
>very special angle
>dont hit too hard
>dont hit w the wrong thing
>dont batonnie the wrong thing
>dont use wrong knife
>dont use wrong grind
>dont batonnie knotty wood
>dont batonnie soft wood
>dont batoonnie ur mom

the list goes on.
there aren't vids of people on youtube breaking screwdrivers opening paint cans. there are TONS of vids on youtube of ppl breaking knives w batoonie

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>>1033358
>tfw watching a contractor's helper open a paint can with a screwdriver
>tfw he slips and cuts his hand with the screwdriver

I actually gave him my paint can opener.

>>1021147
>>1021190
>>1021218
>>1022506
>>1028319
>>1028363
>>1029143
I've been on this board twice and I've already seen this webm 30+ times fuck off faggots

>>1033339
>Not buying 5 gallon buckets of paint
faggot

>>1033371
Lol. Precisely. If you can injure yourself opening a can of paint with the wrong tool, imagine how fucked you could be with the batinnie inny inny
>sharp tool
>much more force needed
>more parts that can slip
>more parts that can break or go wrong suddenly
best of all, the Buntunner runner unner IMPLIES youre going to be far away from axes, froes and wedges
>catastrophic injury far from civilization
...what was that about it being an emergency measure?

>>1033373
>watching the same video 30 times in 3 threads

Autism

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>>1033293
CPM 3v. If you get the heat treat right, it's nigh indestructible for anything a human can put it through.

Idiots batoning on youtube is a hilarious phenomenon, but real artisan made knives are in a completely different realm of capability.

No, not cutting cars in half or any of that autistic shit. But if your knife breaks when batoning, you have a shitty knife or don't know how to baton. That being said, batoning has extremely limited practicality.

>>1033400
>Idiots batoning on youtube is a hilarious phenomenon, but real artisan made knives are in a completely different realm of capability.

This is true. They are always using factory made in bulk knives which are always shit tier when compared to a properly forged knife. Hell even stock removal knives are typically better than factory shit.

>>1033401
I've always loved forged knives, but I think that modern day super steels trump them now.

Stock removal on CPM steels mean that you can get the same result every time from a heat treat schedule, so knife makers can really push the boundaries. When you're heat treating a forged knife though, you can expect to throw away at least 30% of your knife blanks because of inconsistency causing warping or cracking.

But mass manufactured stock removal knives just aren't going to bother with a heat treat process that takes days to complete, let alone cryo soaks or any of the other stuff that uses consumables. That's why there's no information available on the heat treat that a mass produced knife has gone through, because they just use the cheapest method that produces the desired rockwell score.

That 3v chopper is hardened to 61-62 rockwell. If you dropped nearly any mass produced knife of that hardness, it would shatter.

>>1033339
>Sounds like a lie to me
that's because you are a small minded moron

>>1033390
>Implying I have to watch a video thirty times to see that it's the same video
>thumbnail

>>1033401
you can baton a kitchen knife if you want so long you do it right. we had this old rusty feet long kitchen knife there is no end to the crap i put it through. it was used as a prybar it hit nails in with it and did batoning too.

>>1033339
Why the fuck would you blow money on a tool meant for one specific purpose that can't very well be used for anything else if you don't regularly partake in said activity when you can purchase a single item that has multiple uses

>>1033431
just about any tutorial on the net about how to open paint cans uses a screwdriver too. google it!

>>1033428
It's only been in like 4-5 threads on /out/.

>>1033443
>>1033431
>The right tool for the job.

Screwdrivers are for screws, nothing else.

>>1033443
I'm for using whatever works for you. If you can successfully use a tool for multiple purposes then go ahead.
>>1033448
It's just a solid metal bar use it for whatever the fuck you want to

>>1033443
People wouldn't need tutorials on how to open paint cans if they used the proper tool.

>>1033485
>>1033553
>>1033448
>>1033443
>>1033431
This is a terrible debate and you both should be ashamed.

>>1021939
God damn, I need to get me a froe!

>>1033448
stuck on labels much?

>>1020295
batoning works but for more effort at less weight carried

Didn't any of these guys have fathers who told them NOT to play with knives?

>>1033969
>works doing WHAT?

That's something that has never been explained adequately to me. Even if we all agreed that the batonnie chippy chop was a perfectly safe, non-destructive, non-blunting procedure, WHY would you ever do it?

For many years I carried a leatherman micro and it had a folding 1.5 inch blade, but I still made bombass fires even in high humidity, even in the cold, even in the rain, even in shitty areas that had either been picked over or were shit for wood for some other reason. I never batonnie kopf kizzed because it makes no sense to. If you need drier wood get off your fat ass and walk a little further to find something good. You're in the forest ffs, do a little leg work and find the appropriate wood.

Besides, where are you guys finding perpendicular cut log rounds when you're out?

>>1033979
no they were too busy porking your mom as your father watched from his cuck shed faggot!

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>>1034036
>>1034064
lol you should go to the Dr. and see if you've had a stroke dude.

This is consistently the worst thread on the board.
The amount of perpetual stupidity consistently on show really bottles the mind.

>>1034160
>bottles the mind
i can see that

>>1034163
Autocorrct mistakes are a diamond dozen.

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>>1034160
It's like pic related, but for autists who batonny.

>>1034064
>getting this worked up

Where did the strange man touch you anon?

>>1034326
>implying it wasn't a trusted member of clergy

>>1020297
>doesnt go outside. i mean how could they, if they have have the ability and time to do all that.

sorry gramps but unlike you, it doesn't take most people a week to make a simple collage. that image would take literally 5 minutes to make, and to crop a video that length and add subbies for the segment it would take at best 30 minutes.

>>1034383
Took more like an hour to make the vid because I was laughing too hard at my own joke. I couldn't see half the time due to that.

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>>1034434
doin' the LAAURD's WERK anon. I hadn't genuinely lol'd that hard in a while. I was legit about to fall out of my chair. Thanks!

>>1034434
>>1034481
wow you fags are easy to please. the only thing remotely funny in this thread is this image: >>1024183

>>1034490
>easy to please
>says spurdo comic is best

This is the second-most ironic thing I've read on 4chan this morning.

>>1034490
quiet anon, the adults are speaking. go back to your little reddit friends and play nice.

> posts once kills entire batoning thread
i baton shit that is for kindling with a bk16 i paid like 40$ for on ebay but under no circumstances do i go full retard and sink the knife into anything bigger than about a 1/2 inch log and if it is bigger i just use a hatchet for that shit and so should everyone else

>>1034529
Are you me? I also baton only for kidling with my bk16

>>1034529
>>1034531
I use a rocket stove. All the fuel is just twigs I can break with my hands without thinking about it.

>>1034565
Yeah, this. Batonny has no purpose.
This is me >>1034059 I frequently ask this question and usually batonny fags don't have an answer, if they do reply they don't give any reasonable answer.

>dry wood at the middle
>emergency technique

those reasons don't make sense for many different reasons.

>>1034565
rocket stoves are nice and all, but that's not real fire. i like campfires. a lot.

>>1034648
you got banned recently too? I don't get it. I got banned for creating a pretty well received and actively posted on thread about penis gourds. Meanwhile somebody made some shit thread in Korean and the picture failed, and the whole thing was two guys going on about if it was chinese or not.

>>1034642
> those reasons don't make sense for many different reasons

Ideology is not a valid reason in an emergency.

Getting off ones fat ass and walking in an emergency might not be an option.

Also, not everyone lives where you do, in the same kind of biome, with the same variety of trees, nor goes out in the same way as you do, along the same trails as you do, in the same time of day as you do.

So yes, the two reasons you gave are valid and make sense. Don't do it if you don't know how, or don't like to do it.

>>1034647
>but that's not real fire

It is a "real" fire, used for cooking. The point is that you can make a tiny fire, which can be used to make a larger fires. you light the fire for a standard camp fire and a rocket stove using the same materials. Only the rocket stove uses nothing larger than kindling.

>>1034648
>t. Batonny Chop Chop Babby Bushkekker

>>1034682
yeah i mean they are alright for cooking, but not very satisfying to sit around.

>>1034661
yeah the cuck keeps deleting my posts like it changes anything about him being a flaming homosexual.

>>1034702
Of course. Though, cooking with them is pretty neat from an LNT standpoint and legal in areas where an open fire is illegal. It's like having your own personal mini-fireplace

>>1034706
The board you are looking for is >>>/b/ or >>>/bant/

>>1034642
> not knowing 4 stages of kindling
> twigs
> large sticks
> general kindling sticks
> cut small logs
so batoning is generally only useful early on to get at kindling sticks even then you only need maybe a handful and in most circumstances would be able to find already fallen branches that fit the size you are looking for without having to baton.

>>1034673
>Ideology
Lol what? Dude we're just talking about reasons, like logic and that sort of thing.

Ok so hypothetical emergency situation where your legs are broken and you're a forest that has been completely picked clean of any dead hanging or twigs or kindling (because those exist?)

>I don't buy this, but sure let's roll with it.

You should use your knife in a way that could
A) break it
B) injure you in a serious way
C) blunt it

All for what? To have smaller wood?

>>1034715
>4 stages of kindling
what kind of boyscout bullshit is this? Just start small and go bigger, organize it in piles if it gets you hard. Is making fires really that complicated for you guys?

>>1034718
> bigger to smaller
nigger that is exactly what is implied

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>>1034719
>>1034715
Kindling is only 1 size of twig/stick.

>>1034719
Yeah...

You're aware categorizing it doesn't make it burn any better right?

Look batonnie fags, I'm sorry I'm ruining many hours of precious research, and again, I'm sorry that you guys spent all that time collecting GBP so mommy would buy you a good batonnie knife, but it doesn't make any sense.

>use an axe
>pick up better wood

>>1034732
But anon, don't you know that hardcore battonny bushkekkers only camp out in the backyard during freezing winter rainstorms at floodstage?

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>>1034756
...With all their bones broken, in the dark, axe and saw stolen by a grizzly, not a twig in sight, and they were told by mommy not to wake their new daddy Jaquan up to ask if they can borrow his splitting maul.

I always wonder why people expect perfectly sawed logs just lying around in the forest.

>not using machetes
Really guys? It's more useful in cutting logs and sticks.

>>1035159
machete is more useful cutting bushes and grass nothing else.

>>1035137
Folding saws are negative weight of -2 pounds. It offsets the fact you have to work harder to do things.

>>1035163

Machetes work great for thin trees (~6 inches or less), branches, in addition to brush, vines, and whatnot.

>>1035170
yeah because picking up a deadfall and breaking it into smaller pieces is such a hard work, right?

>>1035180
some machetes can do that, most can't. anything thicker than half an inch is too much for a machete.

>>1035184
It hurts my fingers. :(

>>1035184
> implying rotten wood burns as well as dead standing / hanging
Kek

>>1035607
You batonny faggots don't know dick about shit when it comes to making fires do you?

>>1035638
I don't baton I just know the difference between rotten wood and non rotten wood and how well each burn

>>1035641
Ok good, then you don't batonny. Some faggots think all wood off the ground is rotten or that they need to "process" wood to make a fire. Lol.

>>1035644
My area recives lots of rain so you have to expect 70% of wood off the ground to be rotten

>>1035170
Folding saws are stupid.

How can you baton with a saw? Rhetorical question. You fu*ken can't.

>>1035647
>Lots of rain = rotten wood
yeah, it also means more dead fall and more growth. There is plenty of wood to burn that's fine to pick up.

>>1035647
Unless you live in the jungle it shouldn't be an issue.

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>>1020295
>>1020308

Topkek


>>1021100 <--- also this

The point I get out of batoning:

You can do it with a strong knife, but there's a chance it'll break and the company isn't going to replace it for you.

You may as well use a hatchet if you intend to split wood, as at most, you'll lose a handle that you can replace easily, but you can use a knife if you want to.

I'd rather a hatchet + a knife for food prep and whittling than a single knife.

>>1035652
>How can you baton with a saw?
sharpen the top, hit the teeth.
also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kek4EHGqvEU

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>>1035890
wtf is this

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>>1020295
Aren't "kukri" knives the best o the best for batoning? I can see why normal knives break so much.

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>>1035908
As a matter of fact they are fucking amazing for batonny chop chop.

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>>1035890
She is wayyyy better waifu material than survival lily. And I'm not even sure if she's slinging a sausage in that cosplay.

>>1034765
no one named Jaquan owns a splitting maul

>>1035919
you know the fucking wood is too thick for your blade if it's thicker than half the blade... and also you really shouldn't do that. batoning a knife properly requires you to hit above where the blade cuts into the wood you can't split a log that way obviously. it's fine with thin logs that split easily and eagerly, but logs that can be hit with a splitting maul are the worst idea to even try. fucking retarded.
>>1035972
i think there is a sausage but i can't prove it.

>>1036119
>fucking retarded.

It just shows what goes on in the mind of a batonner.

>>1036120
i gathered it must be satirical. but the log was really over the top. the 2" thickness is what i'm willing to baton tops this way. batoning is not primarily about splitting wood that's a misunderstanding. you can use a lighter shorter knife and a baton to the same effect you could use a longer heavier "chopper" knife without a baton. batoning these heavy choppers to do the work of axes is not evidently okay with most steels and mass produced knives. altho more will take it than not mind you it's a russian roulette.

>>1036127
Unfortunately, nothing posted ITT is satire (other than some subtitles.) Batoning should be reserved for chisels and cutting rope with the properly related tools.

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>>1035919
>This wood is really bad, the good stuff doesn't catch knives like this

>>1035908
>>1035919
The khukuri seems to hide inside the log from that intelligent being

>>1021736
Those wimmen are moist as fuck. 10/10 batonning.

>>1036138
again batoning is not something you practice out of some philosophical choice thing. you do it if you have to because you don't have the preferable tools.

>>1036254
>because you don't have the preferable tools

>poor planning

Yet another Batonny Chop Chop Babby Bushkekker trait.

>>1036258
you fucking imbecile i'm sure you always leave your home fully geared to process wood but normal people who are not autistic don't live like that.

>>1035908
Bettenist logic implies that Khuks are shit for bettenkeking because they're not full tang.

>>1035890
>100 fucking views
Where the fuck do you niggas find this shit?

>>1035919
>the knife
>the wedge
>the hatchet
This webm is just tragic. I should stop visiting these threads.

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>>1036560
When I plan to go into the woods, of course I'm prepared with all the needed gear. Don't you? For emergencies there's a cell phone. But, since most of the USA is within walking distance of well traveled roads, there's rarely a need to process firewood for a fire. In fact, I can't even think of a reason to start a fire with batonny chop chop during a "survival situation" since all "survival situations" are going to be shit like car crashes which will be right near or on the fucking road. Good luck not looking like a drug-addled teen while running around the highway looking for perfectly cut logs to process using your pocket knife and a tire iron, "excuse me, good sir. would you happen to have a saw for my batonny chop chop? I've found a good tree over that guardrail. I'm in the middle of a survival situation right now. cell phone? oh no, I can bushkek my way out of this one. After all, I have my Gerber Bear Grylls Pocket Multi-Tool™."

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>>1035919
>...3 hours later...

>>1036597
>When I plan to go into the woods, of course I'm prepared with all the needed gear. Don't you?
not if i don't plant to stop or stay no. why the fuck would i. i carry a knife always of course.

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>>1036603
Sure sure sure, you can start a fire with a striker and you built a shelter in the woods one afternoon. We're all deeply impressed with >Muh survivalz skillz
But this is a batonny choppie thread. How does batonnie kopf kopf help with Muh SUrvivalz? It seems like it just risks breaking, blunting the tool or risking injury to yourself when all you really need to do is pick better firewood- a lot less energy and risk there, not nearly as muh survivalz for the youtubes.

>>1036611
>It seems like it just risks breaking, blunting the tool or risking injury to yourself when all you really need to do is pick better firewood
i like to go minimal effort. if it's easier to pick firewood you don't need to split i will. if it's not possible then i explore other options, but mostly there is no need. what you can do with a saw (cutting into a log and break it in a way it splits) you can also do batoning a knife. and if you do it right it will not damage or blunt the knife at all. you can also make more clean cuts to branches batoning if you don't have a saw.

if you choose to bring a saw to camp or hike i have nothing against it, but i will go nowhere without a knife and only pack a saw if i plan to use it.

>>1036613
>if you do it right it will not damage or blunt the knife at all
have you seen any of the webms? basically the way to not damage your knife is to batonny shit thats small enough it doesn't need to be batonnied in the first place. Using your knife will always blunt it. There is no such thing as a knife that doesn't blunt from use that you'd be smashing into a log.
>if it's not possible then i explore other options
???? You're in the WOODS. There will be deadfall. There will always be a gradient of sticks of many sizes available to you. NEVER will you walk through a wood where only very large forms of wood are available to you, and there are no sticks, twigs, small branches etc. You're aware trees grow from small to large right? Statistically speaking there will be many more small bits available than large,

I'm convinced this bitunny chum chum is popular because it's easier for youtube survival channels to tape themselves doing than going around picking up wood. There's more product reviews, opinions to bullshit while making problems with a knife than walking around easily picking up sticks.

>>1036648
I suppose you have never been in the middle of nowhere with a fucked ankle that does not bear any weight.

As it is, you will miss your waypoint for this evening. Since your ankle is fucked, you won't be mobile over a large area. You will attempt to use whatever sticks you can get from as near as possible. On top of it all it's raining and has been for long. Since it's wet, you will do whatever it takes to extract the dry burnable parts inside any wood you can find very close by in order to start a fire.

You do not have gasoline, napalm, thermite, magnesium, butane lighter, nuclear weapons, lasers, axes or saws with you.

You need to overnight since it'll be easier to hop around in the daylight, also makes it easier to improvise a crutch since presumably you are more mobile after resting your ankle overnight.

You will not hop with one leg over the nearby large swampy marshland to get to the small "islands" with trees. Neither will you hop/skim over water to get to the forest on the other side. Neither will you hop over rocky, slippery cliffs in the increasing dusk to find more trees.

You'd probably survive without fire too, but you'd be miserable, cold, likely end up hungry, and unable to dry your socks + boots.

Crack the wood open to get dry tinder and kindling. If you are super allergic to battony chop sperg(sic) you can carve out a wooden wedge and try to split using that.

>>1036908
>5 miles hike to top of hill range and 5 miles back
>sprained ankle near the top due to friend horsing around
>can't put any weight on that foot at all
>broke a limb of a tree that had a Y in it, using my bare hands then wrapped a spare shirt around the Y section for cushioning
>used it as a crutch on the way back home for 5 miles
>didn't slow down at all

That happened to me 3 years ago. I just went around all the el retardo danger spots you listed. Also, walking with a crutch for a fucking month really sucks ass.

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>>1030793
>loli of the lake

>>1036648
>There is no such thing as a knife that doesn't blunt from use that you'd be smashing into a log.
reading comprehension 0/10

>>1036648
>I'm convinced
>I know what I'm talking about but I really don't.
okay then glad we cleared that up!

>>1036908
A tailor made scenario for the batonnie onie onie- sure, let's roll with it.

Somehow, despite all this you can get your hands on wood

But it's only big wood *the batonnie kind of wood*- not too big tho, because those faggots who get their knives stuck and broken are always batooniiied too big of logs.

You know, I don't know if I would do it. If it's cold and wet out and my body has already had the shock of a terrible injury- I don't think smashing my knife with a log makes any sense. It especially doesn't make sense because you would be in an awkward position because your ankle is apparently fucked to all fuckall- further increasing risk of injury. Since bytonnie needs to be done at very precise angles- you'd prolly risk destroying your knife too. If shit's already fucked and I have a plan to un-fuck it, why would I risk injuring myself or destroying a tool?

>>1036937
>doesn't blunt the knife at all
when you use the edge part of a knife on something it will blunt it

>>1036938
I can't believe you're defending this stupid shit, in a thread full of broken knives and jokes at your expense you don't know when to shut up and realize you've been living a buntunny quippy quoopy lie!!

>>1036942
>when you use the edge part of a knife on something it will blunt it
not more than any other "approved" use was my point but yeah i worded that wrong technically.

>>1036942
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQHAdBxOSSE
batoning a knife is not at all trying to split large hardwood logs like retard. stop insisting it is!

>>1020295

How do I make sure this doesn't happen to me?

>>1036958
Why didn't he just bring a folding saw?

>>1036958
>lol this guy looks like he should be hitting the gym more and hitting that knife less
If it doesn't brake easily with your hands it is probably not dead/dry enough to burn. Why would anyone do this? If you need a green branch bring a saw. Those wire saws are like 10 grams and fit in an Altoids tin.

>>1036962
100% sure? Don't batten the chops
91.3% sure? Batten very carefully.

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>>1036908
Wtf is this retarded shit.

lol @ the fucking opinel
idk if thats supposed to be memeing or just stupidity

>>1036965
you usually don't baton wood to burn, i have explained a few times why not. did you watch the video?

>>1036964
i carry a saw and a hatchet when i go camping. but i rarely carry them otherwise. if i need some wood in the right size and only have my knife this is definitely an options. that's all.

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>>1035890
Why is she dressed like that?
What is this?

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>>1035919
>I've been cucked by a fucking log!

>>1036581
>searched for "batoning with saw" it came right up.

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>>1020308
>but mom

my fucking sides