Fishing & Tackle Thread

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Finally got muh pp

i've decided that fishing is actually impossible

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>>1015057

my plecostomus got to around 2' long and unmanageable so i released it into a pond at a kids park. cant imagine how big it is now

Bullheads all day, errday.

>>1015064
Muh dik

>>1015071
i had to go with 20 and 40, Instead of 15 and 30 , But im happy with it, need to go to the shore to give my largr setup a shot with blues and stripers

>>1015064
Is that a Sprayed Grass brush hog?

Mah nigga

>>1015068
We have so many wild plecos. I saw a really big one cruise by a couple weeks ago when I was night fishing. The wide part of his head must have been like 10".

>>1015075
What size? I think you shoulda done the 15 and 30. You will soon see that 40 is overkill unless you are only using it for casting into thick lillies. 20lb is more than enough for pulling big bass out of most cover

>>1015076
20 lb on a 2000 size
40 lb on 4000 size
i know its overkill but the dicks i went to litterally didnt have any 30, and only had one pack of 15 and it was yellow , and the pack was opened and a bunch of the line had been pulled out
oly other sizesthere were 10, 50, and 80

i going to be using the 40 for saltwater fishing aswell so i think its KINDA okay
plus im using lighter leaders, so its not like im going to get snagged up and not be able to get off,

also yes its a sprayed grass brush hog, got it per your recomendtions

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So today I decided to throw a Zoom Fluke for the first time. I threw it for maybe an hour in various sizes and colors. It's my belief that they are a certified meme. There is not one good feature about it. The only reason I caught a fish I think was because he swallowed it right after it hit the water. I still like the small ones for trailers but the full size and big ones are getting taken out of the tackle rotation

>>1015084
Zoom fluke is not a meme for saltwater though, at least in my experience.

It's the only thing that occasionally outfish my $20 lucky craft flashminnow for halibut if the condition is right.

If I'm reading the sticky correctly I can just get a left handed meme caster if I don't want to reel with my right hand?

I recently switched from 20lb Power Pro to 10 lb Fins Windtamer braid. It seems to work pretty good and I think it has cut down on the line drifting in the wind somewhat. I have already lost 1 lure on a snag, but I expected that with 10 lb test.

>>1015093
Correct.

Those of us who grew up on spinning reels instead of the shit-tastic spincasters (Zebcos) do best with "left handed" baitcasters.

>>1015093
Yes, that's how my memecaster is

>>1015084
Standard/split tail flukes are okay when bass are being particularly spooky or sedate, but are kind of a bitch to rig to where they don't just roll. I have taken to fishing the new(ish) Yum paddletail flukes/swimbaits with much better success.

I think they actually work better than the Zoom paddletails (swimmin' super fluke).

>>1015084
Not a meme
Get offset hooks and rig them weedless.
In the dead of summer fish them without a weight, go slow and twitch lightly.
When you twitch them, they will act like a subsurface Zara Spook.
Caught a bunch of bass on them when it was really hot.

>>1015105
Split tail fluke has completely function compared to the paddle tail though. You aren't supposed to straight retrieve super fluker ever. I've riggedit w/e and it still has beautiful action on hard jerk and sink down nicely. They either meant to be fished really slow as jerkbait or just reel in fast to skip over surface.

>>1015113
> completely function

I meant completely different function.

>>1015099
Too bad for you guys.
As a lefty, I take sadistic pleasure in the fact that 99% of all Zebcos and memecasters ever made work 10x better for me than right handed folks.
It's like the ONE area of life where divine justice has prevailed.

>>1015114
I know. You can fish a paddletail like a jerkbait, and to a lesser extent like a skipbait, but it also functions as a swimbait, spinnerbait body, fished on a Lindy rig, on a shakey head, or on a regular jighead. They're far more versatile.

However, they're cheap and light enough there's no reason to not have both in your bag. I just find the traditional flukes are far more situational.
>>1015117
True, but I console myself in the fact you had to use a Zebco. And any memecaster worth owning is available in both lefty and righty.

>>1015111
I tried that first. Looked like a lifeless hunk of plastic just sitting in the water slowly sinking down with no action. When I put it on a weighted hook in that pic I posted it didn't do anything much different.

>>1015113
Although I understand what you mean I believe there are other baits that can do both of those things far better than a split tail fluke 2bh

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>working this weekend
>raining next weekend
>working the weekend after
>mfw

>>1015121
Fish before/after work.

Fish in the rain.

Buy a Buzzplug and play with it in your bathtub.

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>>1015122
I'm thinking one of these

>>1015119
A hard jerkbait might have the same or even slightly better action( if you use a high quality one) than a zoom super fluke. They aren't weedless though and has very specific depth of dive for each.

Super fluke just does such as nice kick of its body it is jerked and move in all different direction. You can't achieve the same with any stuff with a paddle or curly tail since they just swim straight instead of turning the body when jerked like a super fluke. A stick bait might also have the same effect, but they looks like worm, not bait fish. I believe that its the jerk that catches the attention and trick the fish. The fish strikes it when it's sinking after alteady being tricked so the sinking action isn't that important

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>>1014570
I don't give a fuck. Its not your property so mind your business. I don't care if you cuck yourself out of good fishing spots.

>>1014637
The places I go are usually like that. They can be really insane places to fish. Nothing like a submerged crane to provide structure.

>>1014723
I usually fish anywhere from Algonquin up to Fox Lake. I live in Lake County.

>>1015131
Also if anybody ever tells me to leave then I will and never come back, but until that happens the spot is fair game.

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>>1015131
>>1015132

>>1015131
My niqqa. My slampiece is from the Gonq, beautiful area imo. I lowkey hauled a 25lb Channel cat out of Three Oaks up in Crystal Lake. Got to love C&R only.
>>1015068
who dis?
Orientals are fugly desu

>>1015084
super flukes catch me a fuck ton of spotted trout and redfish so they're definitely not a meme in saltwater

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>>1015139
Good shit. If you're ever in the area say so in these threads and I'll show you some pretty spots. Pic related is my sanctuary.

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>>1015134

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>>1015160
Beautiful.

>>1015154
what the fuck is coming out of your fish? is it The Thing?

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I got out and found my plans for memorial day weekend!

>>1015174
He got wrapped up in my line and when I was reeling him in I guess it squeezed his ass out. I felt pretty bad about it.

>>1015118
>you had to use a Zebco.
Only when I was 5. Had an ambi spinning reel from the time I wanted one, too.
Now I can use anything I want, and pay less money to boot.

>>1015188
That's still 1 use too many.

And I've never seen a reel available in both lefty and righty that the righty version cost more, or a righty-only reel that didn't have an equivalent quality option in the same price bracket.

And as I said earlier, any reel worth owning is available in both.

>>1015131
>poacher
>try to justify his poaching
>still a fucking poacher

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I'd like to throw my Dink into the ring...

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thoughts?

other better fishing pack solutions?

>>1015205
>can't into zebcos
Yep, it's a fishing general.

>>1015227
Eh, I'm just being a shitter. They have their uses.

>>1015084
I always work them like jerk baits. They're super easy to walk.

>>1015097
>I think it has cut down on the line drifting in the wind somewhat

I always have opposite happen with lighter braid. The wind seems to just pick it up more.

>>1015225
I bought a ll bean bag like that. the problem I found with that type of bag is when I cast,
the bag would whip around and always slap me into me. the extra waist band didnt cling and would slip, tried using a bungie to cinch it tighter but was uncomfortable. It might depend on the type of fishing youre doing also. I use a backpack usually because its stable on my back and just toss some planos and ziplocks in it.

>>1015090
I can back this up. I've got a halibut and lingcod on the white ice zoom flukes. Never a fish in freshwater tho.

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>>1015090
Forgot pic.

>>1015255
>>1015257
Cute dink butt anon. There is sadly no lingcod here in socal but there is white sea bass. I managed to get a 20 inches juvenile one in the surf on a super fluke as well

>>1015263
I have a lifetime total of two halibut, both at the same exact spot in San Francisco. The other one was just a teeny bit bigger than the one in this pic. That one was on a "city shrimp" 4 inch big hammer. I would probably have got more by now if I spent more time at it.

Now that I think about it, I have also only caught two lingcod. One was on a white ice zoom fluke. The other one was on a city shrimp big hammer. Weird coincidence.

>>1015273
I see, what do you fish for most of the time up there then or you don't go that much?

You guys at least have stripers as well. Saltwater striper is very rare in socal here.

I've been pulling 3-4 dink halibuts every trip in the surf. I also got some bigger ones at 15-20 inches but just short of legal size a week ago. Idk where those big ones go now.

I get pretty decent at predicting where the halibut will be in the surf. There's always good fishing for them at the beach I fish if I find the structure and it's the right time of the year.

>>1015084
Nose hook it with an octopus hook, it will work better
>>1015093
Yeah>>1015132
>if anybody ever tells me to leave then I will and never come back
Does that include this thread?
>>1015207
+1

>>1015246
imm im thinking two directions
>a ligther setup like the slingbag
or
>a heavies setup with a chair-pack
what does fishgen recomend

>>1015323
I have 2 bags. I have a small backpack when I'm moving and fishing and I have a larger tackle bag and a chair for when I'm chair fishing.

>>1015325
I almost bought a little 3500 bag at Dick's over the weekend. I keep looking at em so I don't need to keep the big 3700 bag around but I know if I buy a second bag I'm going to drop at least $200 in lures too. I really liked that lottle Gander Mtn one too but now I missed out.

Lately I just leave my bag in the car and walk around with a few rods.

>>1015328
My backpack is small. Holds 2 of the larger Plano cases and 1 tiny 1. I usually wall with my baitcaster and ultralight

>>1015093
i'd try and see how the feel is before going lefty. i mean - you get used to it and it opens up options on reels
>>1015119
try mojo rig or nose hook as skid suggested
>>1015131
hay another ILfag theres like 3 of us in the worst fishing state in the country
>>1015179
very cool. would love to hit up a spot like this

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Landed my first 5+ pounder of the year yesterday

What are your experiences making lures out of cork?
So far I've made lures out of balsa, but I ran out.
In comparison cork seems very brittle and heavy. Also I guess the material doesnt handle cutting well. Maybe sanding it down is a better option?

>>1015064
>fishing a Texas rig with a spinning rod

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1015352
Decided to ruin a couple of my corks to get a feel of the material.

Ordinary knives are out of the question, but my scalpel set works perfectly, like I'm cutting butter.
Sanding the cork down seems to just rip it to shreds.

I think going for a smooth boomerang shape to find out how thin I can make these.

>>1015353
Why? I mean memecasters a best but as long as the spinning rod has some fast action, it's fine.

>>1015064
>texas rig with a snap
please tell me this isnt common?

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>When your pond is full of Toads fucking
>>1015353
Problemn, officer?

>>1015365
quick, look for eggs, hatch the tadpoles in a bucket, then use them as bait. they eat shredded lettuce frozen in to ice cubes

>>1015363
I do mine where I tie the T-rig on a flouro leader, then a surgeon's loop like 10"-12" up the line and then I'll attach that to the snap. Creates a weak point but with 20lb flouro and 20lb braid, it will handle the bass. Not the best way to do it but I can switch from a Texas rig to a crank bait in 10sec.

That makes no sense how he did it tho because he would still have to cut the line to take the weight off.

Anyone subscribe to mystery tackle box?

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>>1015376
A bunch of us have done it or LTB.

It's straight. Basically for the price of one good crank, you get a handful of baits you may or may not use. Good way to build your collection.

>>1015393
I'm giving it a shot. Might be fun. Signed up for the mtb bass box.

>>1015263
we have lings in socal. go out on a rockfishing boat you might see one or 10 of em'

protip: halloween color swimbaits on 8oz jighead slay lings and cabs.

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>>1015225
i keep my tackle box in my trunk, but bring my top 5 lures in a canvas roll that clips to my belt and I store some extra line and hooks in my foreskin

>>1015359
sanding disc on a drill or a belt sander work well for shaping cork. only problem ive run into with making cork lures is epoxying them.

>>1015417
>Having a forskin

Just got a pretty nice kayak today, pumped to try to find some trout

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>>1015446
>paying for cheesebait

>>1015399
I did it for 3mos, plus had the $10 off code so the boxes pretty much came out to $11/mo. So I figure it's the price of buying one Yo-Zuri or X-Rap.

2 of the 3 months, I ended up upgrading to the "Pro" box tho. Basically just gives you an extra ~$10 bait so I don't think it's really worth the extra money above the regular boxes.

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>>1015352
>>1015359
Well, this is what I ended up with. I guess there are worse ways to spend an evening.
Just sat here by my computer desk, slicing into the cork with my scalpels.

That swimplate is a piece I cut out of an old library card, the blue is plumbers epoxy / repair putty, or whatever its called.
It does have proper epoxy holding the spine in place, but I needed something harder to fill in for the rest.

>>1015420
Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow, I'm out of sanding discs.
I noticed that the epoxy didnt want to stick to it.

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I'm a beginner and I want to go fishing for brook trout in the lake behind my house. I have:
>Rod
>Reel
>Line
>Hooks
>Spinners
>Swivels
>Split shot sinkers
>Floaters

What is the best way to set this up for shore fishing at the lake?

>>1015520
Step 1.

Buy a gun.

Step 2.

Kill yourself.

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>>1015280
I do most of my fishing on the Berkeley waterfront and I am usually soaking a bait for sharks/rays or fishing for jacksmelt with my ultralight gear. I know that there are halibut on this side of the bay too, but i don't target them much. Also I spend most of the year at university in Sacramento so I only get to salt fish during the summer and when I go home for breaks or sometimes on the weekend.

>>1015409
Oh right. Apparently there are lings in socal but they seem to be in much deeper water. I see videos and reports of people catching lings in shallow water in norcal, but never socal

>>1015530
No bully please.

>>1015471
I figured what the hell, maybe I'll try some new shit. 15 bucks is worth it to find something new and it's cool to get surprised.

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What am I missing
Little gulp minnows
2 colors of zoom horny toads
Mini craws
Larger beaver style bait
Brush hogs +mini lizards
Larger craws
2 types of finesse worms
2 different senkos
Large power worms
Small natural colored swimbaits
Larger better swimbaits
Eggs

What else should I have with me ? (Soft plastics)
For general freshwater bass fishing

>>1015557
pearl zoom super flukes with 2/0 dropshot hooks

>>1015557
Zoom Lizards in Chartruese Pepper.

>>1015478
What kind of tools & ingredients I need to start making lures? If that took an evening to do, has it taken long or a short while when it comes to making lures?

What are you looking to catch with that once its finished?

>>1015578
www.jannsnetcraft.com has a lot of information on making your own stuff

>>1015399
It's pretty neat. I'm gonna try out the MTB local thing for a month and see how that is.

>>1015471
I like the pro boxes because you get full packs of plastics

>>1015582
I look forward to seeing the local. A couple guys from work signed up with me. I got the bass, 1 guy got the pan fish and another guy got the trout. Depending how I like it I may give the local a shot

>>1015578
Cant really say if it has been a long or a short while. It just happens.
>some people I know cast theirs out of plastic in bunches of hundreds, but I dont think they're "selfmade" at that point anymore.

And once its done, I'm hoping to catch some grayling with it, I dont think the cork material can handle stronger fish like trout or big pike.
I'm making another just like it, with a different kind of swimplate, to bring more casting options.

I'd start by going to your local hardware store
Buy the following, if you dont have them already.
>woodcarving knife
>couple of thin hacksaw blades
>Piano wire
>blowtorch
>sandpaper, few varying types, from coarse to smooth
>few of those pen sized airbrushes to paint them
Or if you're cheap as fuck like me, steal some of your girlfriends or mothers nailpolishes.
Order your first swimming plates from a website, as they're hard to come by otherwise, or they're way more expensive.
Anon at
>>1015580
Linked a good website.


And get a piece of balsa wood.

I used to draw what I wanted to do on paper, with exact dimensions etc, but as I kept doing lures, I just started to go by instinct.

In the beginning, for every lure I made that worked, I used to make 4 that didnt. So dont get disappointed if your first lure doesnt work.

Good luck

>>1015586
I'm just worried they'll try and fit all of Texas into one region, which would kinda defeat the whole "local" part. I sent them an email and asked them how they split it up though, so we'll see what they say.

>>1015603
Let me know what they say! I also wonder what species they target for local.

>>1015580
>>1015594
Allright. Thanks to both.
Never heard of grayling. Good sportfish/eating?

But why the blowtorch?

>>1015606
Grayling is a decent fighter fish, but I dont sportsfish, I catch and cook.

When I have enough fish, and have time to spare, I give my selfmade lures to other fishermen nearby, and share fishing stories.
>A couple of times some fishermen found me and asked to have a couple more
>makes me feel infinitely happy.

Blowtorch is to quench the steel wire in case its too soft for the intended lure.
Sometimes it causes the wire to rust if its not taken care of, but no lure lasts forever.

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Spent 5 hours out at a county park lake today.

Fish were being weird AF
>caught this channel cat, 5 small black crappie, and a rando turtle on a 3" paddletail minnow and a 3/16oz unpainted jighead
>the bluegill kept slaughtering my 4" stick-O's, shredded through a dozen before giving up on weightless
>all the bass were in 6-10" of water, slowly patrolling the shoreline but not hitting ANYTHING for anybody

Been fishing 28 years and that's only the second catfish I've caught on an actual lure. The other was a small (~3lb) flathead that hit a 2" orange curlytail grub in ~10" of water when I was a teenager.

>>1015635
Also hooked into something that pulled the hook on my 3/16oz jighead straight and it got off. There are a few small carp, at least one giant orange koi (~4ft long), and some decent sized snapping turtles in here but nothing capable of making a run like this did unless I foul-hooked a carp.

The catfish are non-sustainable and stocked so they stay small, the biggest bass ever caught in there was ~3.5lbs, and carp are vegetarian so it would've had to be a foul hook.

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>>1015605
Will do.

>>1015638
>carp are vegetarian
Common carp are omnivorous

>>1015664
These are grass carp. Mah bad.

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>>1015638
>carp are vegetarian
>>1015664
>Common carp are omnivorous
+1
i can catch carp on flies, if it was a vegetarian it wouldnt go after it
>pic related, only pic of a carp i have on hand

>looking at 200$ onto of the kayak price just to transport it, guess this is the end of my fishing career

So. What has been your most memorable catch and why? Can we have a little storytime going?

I'm a beginner angler. And would like some inspiring stories to read. I found fishing at my 20's trough a friend. And now at the start of summer. Its all I can think about

>>1015670
>$10 ratchet straps
>like $3 in pool noodles
nigga wut

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Alright bros educate me. I need your best and most surefire way to catch a bigass Common Carp.
>inb4 use a bow

I was over at my Uncle's and was walking my doggo (pic related) at his pond. I saw a huge ass, biggest i've ever seen, carp patrolling the shallows. It looked to be at least 2.5-3' long... And had a scar across its head.
Help a niqqa out, i've never once attempted to fish for carp but this one is too big to leave alone

>>1015672
Perminent transport with rails, cross bars, And the mount, none of which I have.

The dream is dead

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>>1015670
buy some rope and ratchet straps for like under 20 bucks, and some pool noodles for a dollar each
>>1015671
this trout. its a 14.5 inch brown trout, and its my most important fish to date
>first trout on a fly rod
>first brown trout ever
>5 days after my step brother died in a fire
>this i let him go and cried
>i would probably have committed suicide that night if i hadnt caught this fish
>pic related

>>1015671
The first and only time I went saltwater fishing in Mexico.
>Be me 20 years old
>Go to Riviera Maya with the fratbros on Sprang Brake
>Find a shady Mexican guy on the marinas offering fishing services the morning after me and a bro had ran train on some sloot
>Barter with him in Spanish becuz am dirty Argentine lad
>Go out about 40 minutes from the shore while slamming piss tasting Coronas
Eventually we found the spot and did some sort of trolling with like a Giant plastic jig with a skirt and a hooked Bollyhoo. After about half an hour the captain yells that he sees a fish chasing it.
I see this shimmer explode out of the surface. It's a fucking beautiful sailfish, glimmering to my hungover as fuck eyes.
I grab the rod as the Paisano instructs of the drag settings so I don't fuck up and lose the fish.

I battled the fish for an hour and a half. I brought it to the boat at least 3 times; each time it exploded away when it saw the side of the boat lol. Eventually it was spent and I got the fucker to the side. It was a 7'4" Sailfish... the catch of a lifetime. I got the hook out of it's mouth and let the bastard swim another day.

Honestly bros, I can't describe it properly. I had never known that a fish could be that powerful and take that long to catch. The best part about it was that the next day I had a Blister that went from my elbow to the tip of my thumb from when the rod/reel were rubbing on me for so long.

Sorry if that was long but that's what I got.

>>1015674
>take #1 or #1/0 circle hook
>peel an orange
>hook a roughly 1 square inch chunk of orange peel on the circle hook
>attach a weighted bobber ~1ft above circle hook
>cast
>wait

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So I'm just sitting here and I looked over at my rod rack and I noticed this. Is this rod useless now? It will for sure snap my line if I try and use it. I got it at Walmart last year, think they will let me return it?

>>1015670
Sell your car and buy a truck. That's what I did.

>>1015671
>Be me, about 11
>adoptive father finally takes me to that fishing trip he has been talking about for years
>No less than going to northern Finland
>I cannot contain my joy
>I cant sleep for days
Awesome!
>We, just the guys, two of us, fly to Helsinki and stay a night in a hotel, before another fly to northern Finland
>We inspect our tackles and flies and talk about which we should use
>I spent days looking up the river we were going to
>Just simply put a legendary river, packed full of salmon, trout and grayling
>We rent a car, and realize how remote the place is, there are no parking spots
>few roads that exist are for resident use only
>In my young mind this meant that the river has been barely touched by human hands, and its full of monster fish
>And one of those would be my first ever "real catch"
>I wouldnt count worming roach catches to this.

>We finally find good spot on a roadside ditch to park
>We gear up, I put on my track suit and rubber boots
>My father puts on layer after layer of gear
>now that I think back at it, the gear itself must have cost more than the flight tickets, car rental and hotel for the whole trip
>I rush after him as he darts for the waters edge trough the thick pine forest, full of mosquitoes and biting flies

There it is
The river itself
>And its solitude, only one man down the river, casting a fly, but otherwise, nobody else
>My father quickly grabs at his pockets
"oh no..."
>He tells me to wait as he darts back to the car
>And as he returns, he tells the horrible news
>All of our tackle and flies, we must have forgot them at the hotel in Helsinki

.Cont

>>1015704
What exactly am I looking at here? Do you have the receipt or buy it on a card? If yes, then I'd say you have a decent chance to get it returned

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>>1015671
The one good size channel cat I caught while running a tiny Beetle Spin for panfish on a UL with 4lb mono. I had to lift the fish out of water by hand or it would've broken the line.

The big bowfin I caught when I was a little kid at this tiny pond we fished daily. Caught it on 1/2 a bluegill and had no idea what it was.

The time I caught my friend's rod at that same pond. Carp pulled his rod into the water, I caught his rod 20min later, he grabbed the rod and reeled in the carp that pulled his rod in.

The time some Mexican gave me $5 for a carp at that pond.

My first big snek, 27"

26" LMB

First peacock that wasn't a baby

Biggest peacock I got a pic of (actual biggest jumped out of my hand). I didn't expect peacocks in this little lake, saw the flash of gold and it dug into this huge glob of that stringy algae shit so it was like a 2lb fish with 10lb of weeds and I didn't know it was a peacock until I cleared off the weeds.

And that monster that I didn't catch, had to be a snakehead, one of those 40"+ monsters. Or one of those sharks that venture into freshwater, but probably a snek.

>>1015674
White bread balls. Take off the crust and mold it onto a treble hook. You don't even need to weight it if you see em feeding on the top.

>>1015718
Cont

>My heart sinks
>I'm at the brink of crying
>Father suggests asking the other fisherman, who just sat down by the spot he fished at
>We approach the guy
>as we get closer, I see the other man, clearly bigger, but younger than my father
>We introduce ourselves
>He seems a bit surprised
>Introduces himself, politely, in a deep, booming voice
>He laughs out loud as father told of our problem
>he opens up his fly box and has a lot of them
>We promise to return everything
>He laughs a bit again
>he finishes what he drinks, what I now know was a beer
>takes a knife from his belt and cuts the can in half, tinkers with it for a bit and makes a makeshift tacklebox out of it for us to use
>He lets my father pick some flies from him, and gives a few he would recommend

>I think this man must be the nicest guy in Finland
>My father at this point just ties the fly onto his line and darts off downstream
"D-dad?"
>The finnish guy looks as my dad darts off
>then he looks at me
>Notices that I have a rod, but nothing else
"Anon, would you like to have some of my lures?"
-"Y-yes please."
>He gives me a blue spinner, a floating weight fly rig, and a few jigs
>I graciously accept
>And I start to wait for my dad to come back

>Finnish anon almost started to cast his fly rod again, but couldnt, because I was standing right behind him
>holding the bunch of lures in my hand
"Anon, would you like some help?"
-"Yeah"
>He gave me a small tacklebox, quite much the one he emptied out for me
"Do you know how to cast, Anon?"
>I shake my head
>he lights up another cigarette, I hear a "harumph", as he looks at the way my dad darted off to
>He takes a look at my huge rod, way longer than I was
>he pulls on the line and it snaps
"So, your dad bought this from a gas station?"
-"uh-huh"
>He goes to the cliffside surrounding the river
>I see he has a whole arsenal of rods there
>He grabs one of the smaller ones, with beautiful cork grip
"I'll trade one of mine to one of yours"

Cont.

>>1015726
Cont.
>My rod was huge and had ugly synthetic grips
>My mind said no, he already gave us alot
>but my childishness couldnt take it
>I accepted the deal
>He proceeded to casually toss my "gas station rod" towards his gear
>he smiled at me and said
"Lets start learning how to tie a knot"
>The line in the new rod he gave me was way different
>I had only practiced on what I knew at that point as monophile line
>his gear all had braided line
>His english broke at points, when it came to all the finery of terms, but he taught me how to tie a proper knot
>a knot I still know to this day
>We attach the blue spinner to the lock he helped me tie
"Do you know how to cast anon?"
>I again had to shake my head
>he took one of his casting rods and started to show me
>what finger goes where, where to hold
>and showed me one example cast
>then it was my turn
>He told me to keep my eyes at a rock, about 10 feet into the stream
"Now Anon, swing and release finger!"
>I did as told
>We did this for a while
>but I started to get the hang of it
"Anon, I think you're a natural, you'll end up schooling me in couple of years"
>Now he set the target into a rock, 15 feet down the stream
>I cast
>exactly where he said to aim
BAM
>I cant hold the rod straight
>Finnish guy looks a bit puzzled
>he grabs my rod with one hand and lifts it
"I wonder if the downcurrent behi.. FISH ON!"
>I feel a tug big enough to almost rip the rod off of my hands
>Finnish guy grabs me by the back off my jacket
"Anon, hold the rod up, hoold, hooold."
"We're in no hurry, deep breaths"
>I try my best, but I cant quite hold the rod up enough
>Finnish guy helps a bit with his other hand
>I dont know if it was getting serious, but the nasty cigarette came off of his mouth, he just tossed a freshly lit one away
"Follow the line with your eyes anon, dont let it get behind those rocks"

Cont

>>1015729
cont.
>we reeled, manouvered, we followed the fish a bit downstream
>my rubber boot steps, awkward, but he supported me
"Lets wait here anon, here the current tires the fish"
>it just looked like white water to me
>But quite soon I noticed that I could reel in more
>I had to use my whole body, but I did it
"Good going anon, take it slow"
>Truth to be told, I lost track of the line a long time ago
>But my Finnish fishing mentor was prone, with a net in hand
"walk towards the cliff Anon"
>I did so, and he ducked under the line
>my hands were burning
>with one, smooth, scooping motion he netter it
"Brown trout anon!"
"You did it! The jewel of Lappland, the best fighter there is!"
>I couldnt help but let go of the rod where I stood
>I rushed at the net, my first catch
my... first... catch
>Finn anon was using his net to weight it
>a bit over 2,4kilogrammes, so that was about 5,3 pounds!
>Biggest fish I had ever caught at that point
>He gave my catch to me, for me to marvel
>The fish was strong, I had to hug it to keep a hold of it
"I couldnt be more proud of you Anon"
>The finnish guy was smiling at me, lighting not a cigarette, but a cigar
"Lets take care of that, so its ready for you and your Dad to eat"
>He gave me his bigger knife
"Can I have the honor, ending it for you?"
>I was shaking under all this
>I caught a monster fish
>My rubber boots went
"Whomp whomp whomp"
>against my skinny legs
>I nodded at the finnish guy
>He took his bigger knife and hit the fishes head with its handle
>The fish tensed up
>its fins flared up
>it was over
"Anon, take the rod, put it over your shoulder, and hold the fish, I want to take a picture"
>I did as asked, my grin must have been something to remember
>Finnish anon cut a birch branch, took the leaves and bark off of it with his knife in long, steady strides
>he put the other side of the branch trouch the gills and gave the branch heads to me
"Its time you go make your father as proud as you just made me Anon"

Cont.

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>>1015721
Guide insert fell out. I ment to send this picture instead but picked the wrong one. I bought it so long ago I don't remember if I payed with card or not. Should I just use my normal speech about how my uncle gave it to me as a gift?

>>1015709
Not any option, I love the practicality of hatchbacks

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>>1015730
"You have become one of my heroes now"
>I asked where my father could be
>the much taller finnish anon just pointed downstream, saying he can see my dad
-Thank you for everything mr. Finnish Anon!

I rush as fast I can, downstream to show my catch for my dad
>The happiest day of my life at that point

I wish I could meet that Finnish man again
I guess he is about 30 to 34 by now.
>pic related, that kind of spinnerbait I used to catch my "first catch"

What's the best fishing knife, /out/?

I've got a Buck 119 Special meme hunting knife that I actually successfully gutted and quartered a moose with (with a couple quick sharpens during the act), and an Al-Mar SERE 2000 folder, but no fillet knife. Do I even need one, for cooking what I catch right on the shore?

If I'm going fishing in lakes / streams for small trout, bluegill, etc, am I fine with what I've got? If not, what's the best knife for cleaning / prepping. I'm willing to spend some money for something that will last my lifetime.

>>1015718
>>1015726
>>1015729
>>1015730
Sounds like you ruined that poor man's day.

>>1015733
>no receipt
>not even a barcode they can scan

Not gonna work fampai

>>1015734
Trucks are more practical.

>>1015718
>>1015726
>>1015729
>>1015730
>>1015735
And this is the story of how Anon's dad left him to be raped by big bear Finnish man
>>1015733
They're corporate fucks so I doubt that'd work. Idk I'd just see if you bought it with a card and attempt to jew them

>>1015067
>i've decided that fishing is actually impossible
Fishing is always possible.....catching is optional!

>>1015738
Im pretty sure they still sell that rod so I could just go get one on the shelf and use that I think. Thats what they did with my abu reel when I returned it but there was nothing broke on that. Maybe Ill give it a shot tomorrow. Worst thing that could happen is they say no
>>1015741
this

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>>1015670
nigga u dum
when i got my first kayak I tied it onto my roof with nylon rope and bungie cords. idgaf

>roll windows down
>pool noodles
>new kayak
>ratchet straps
>rope to the nose handle
>climb in through the window
>drive the fuck home
problem??

go to a goodwill, look on cl, check offer up for some racks later.

I need a new general purpose rod + reel to replace the cheesy Wal-Mart Shakespeare I've had since I was 10.

Something for fishing mostly off the shore of ponds, lakes, and rivers in the Western US. Occasionally out of a canoe or something. Primarily various trout and of course the mishmash of introduced species. Not going for trophies, just small fish I can eat while camping. I'm guessing here, but nothing larger than a few pounds probably. It's been years since I really did any fishing (and even then as a kid with my dad), so I'm kind of learning from scratch here.

It'll be broken down and carried on a motorcycle. Open reel, pls.

Willing to spend some dosh to get something I can keep for life.

>>1015741
That's not even remotely true for anything I would ever need(besides moving a kayak)

>>1015753
Pussy treehugger detected

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>>1015752
Cabelas still has this combo on sale, I bought it last week and am very happy with it. The reel has a high gear ratio and the rod is very sensitive so you feel everything your lure hits.

I got the 1 piece 7'M combo, but they have a 2 piece ML 6'6" that should be plenty for panfish, trout, and the occasional bass. It's on backorder though.

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the ceramic insert is broken out of the stripper guide...

cut off the guide, buy a stripper guide, steal some thread from your mom and wrap on the new guide. finish with some epoxy

>>1015752
If you want to spend "dosh" then I reccommend the Abu Garcia revo toro series... My friend uses them and I've always liked them. I can't recommend a rod because I always stuck my Shimano Saros on an ugly stik and called it a day.

I use memecasters for bass fishing now tho so I'm sure other anons here have a better idea. I recommend making the switch tho desu

>>1015733

see >>>>1015761

http://www.mudhole.com/Fuji-Single-Foot-Medium-Heavy-Duty-Stripper-Reduction-Guides-Model-LV

>>1015735
Your dad is a dick. But the finnish guy seems like a nice man to know.

Overall I rank your story 9.5/10. The .5 comes from me knowing that spinnerbait. They're awesome.

>>1015737
honestly, i bet helping some random kid catch an awesome fish made him really happy. i know i would have been really excited had i been finnish annon
>>1015751
+1
>>1015761
>>1015763
+1

Ok guys....i did most of my fishing back east and down south. Mostly lmb and smallies. Most of the fish in the lakes and rivers were not picky at all. Any good worm t.rigged...or tubes brought in what I wanted. I learned to set hard. I am back in commiefornia now in the central valley area and am having a real problem finesse fishing for trout and pan fish. How can I retrain my brain to get a good hook set? I've given up on bass as I assume they just don't exist out here. I match my tackle for the conditions and water but have yet to land a fish...help?

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>>1015761
It's a cheap 5'6" panfish rod so I don't really think it's worth fixing. If they don't let me return it I'll consider it but as of now it would be more work than its worth even though it's not that hard to do

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>>1015735

>>1015760
Dick's has some really fucking good options.
>F&S Inferno rods
Available in everything from 5'0" UL to 8'0" heavy in both spinning and baitcasting, runs $25-30 depending on length. They're surprisingly good rods.
>Okuma Stratus V reels
Spinning reels are ~$40 normally and go on sale (like right now) for half off. High bearing count for their size, have always treated me right. Baitcasters are $50 and come in both left and right hand, they're pretty fuggin' good too, if a bit slow.

Personally I'd go with those Okuma reels for any price bracket under about $100, they are damn good reels.

For trout specifically, take a look at the F&W Tec-Lite rods. High guide count, trout-specific flex rates (medium to medium fast), available as 1 or 2-piece rods for ~$50 or 4-5 piece travel rods in a hardcase for ~$60, all around great feel.

>>1015751
You're missing the point, even if I got it home by that methods, nigger rigging it every time I wanna go fishing is not practical

>>1015225
I bought one and use it. It's way better than a vest, and being able to flip it over my chest is handy. I tried out a bunch of Simms, Fishpond, Patagonia and Sage bags and ended up on it. You should try as many as you can to see what's out there.

>>1015557
Tubes

>>1015798
So buy one of the foam block kits that straps through the doorframe. Even the name-brand ones are under $50 and allow you to go from slicktop car to kayak strapped down in under 5 minutes. They're secure enough for interstate use.

>>1015557
Pink or white fluke (ideally both)

3" and 4" grubs

4" tubes

A really fuckmongous worm (Ole Monster, 10" PB worm) in some obnoxiously bright color

>>1015798
that method works all the time for people that dont have racks, not just to get it home.
It takes mere minutes to load and unload..the same as the having racks.

Or quit being a poorfag, man the fuck up and buy some basic racks.

>>1015671

Memorable catch? My brother was getting married so we all went fishing down at the damn. All afternoon and we didn't catch much of anything. We're getting ready to pack up when I go to real in a piece of cut blue gill and find I hit a snag... only it wasn't a snag.

32" flathead catfish. It's mouth was full of hooks and broken leaders.

Best trip ever was when I took my dad salt water fishing for Father's Day. He taught me how to fish but we always did freshwater. It was finally my turn to teach him a little something.

We spent the night catching so many speckled trout and sand trout that my arms were sore and my hands were cut up from repeatedly handling line and fish. At about 3 am, he landed a 44" black drum. That fight tired him out so we went and slept in the truck for a couple hours and woke up before sunrise, where we limited out on red drum in about 2 hours.

Then we drove home talking about old fishing trips.

>>1015674
>Alright bros educate me. I need your best and most surefire way to catch a bigass Common Carp.

Tie/buy a hair rig and load it with some boilies/corn. Toss some canned corn out in the area. That's a good starting point.

I've been learning from some guys who target carp exclusively in Ladybird Lake. It's big in Europe and they had the full 3-rod holder, electronic bite alarms, slingshot, landing net, and tent set up.

>>1015762

Sorry, I'm not familiar with the terminology. I guess what I should have said is I'm looking for a "spinning reel", like this >>1015760

It's the style I've always used and an most comfortable with.

>>1015788

I'll check out those recommendations, thanks. Any general tips for picking something? Because I don't have enough experience to know exactly what I want, I'll probably go by the local Sportsman's Warehouse to get hands on. There's also a Cabella's and Bass Pro Shops in town, if it's worth the extra ~20-30 minutes of drive time to go to one of those over Sportsmans.

>>1015671

I hooked a ~40lb king salmon while on a fishing trip my grandfather took me to in Sitka, AK. Most amazing fight of my life, had a blast, and was totally exhausted when I was done. I was 13.

I didn't even want to fish for years after that because the experience of never waiting more than 15 minutes to catch a fish, and a big one at that, ruined me until I got older and learned to appreciate the meditative and relaxing aspects of fishing.

>>1015207
>>1015298
No, because you two fat retards have no authority.

>>1015345
>IL
>Worst fishing state in the country

If you live in the corn field zone I can see it but where I live isn't half bad. North 1/3 of the state is decent and there are some nice lakes down south. I'd say worst fishing state would have to be Kansas or something in that area.

>>1015726
I'm interested about this makeshift tacklebox. How was it cut?

>>1015736
If you keep your knife sharp you should be fine, but a fillet knife is still ideal for cleaning fish.

>>1015752
In the OP, there is a list in the Pastebin. I reccommend looking at Pflueger Presidents. They have some XT or whatever for a couple dollars more that is nice too(regular is $60, XT is $80 I think). For what you're doing, I would say check out the "30" size. It's a great size for trout and bass and panfish too, a bit smaller than most other "Medium" size reels but larger than any light panfish stuff. And then 6lb or 8lb monofilament, or if you want to be an OG, get some PowerPro (braid) in 10lb or 15lb. With the braid, you get more strength for a given diameter compared to mono. If you run 10lb braid instead of 6lb mono, you will be able to land that random channel cat that bites the lure or a bass that digs into weeds

>>1015828
For a multipurpose rod, I'd go with a 6' medium-light or 6'6" medium. Enough backbone to do bass, as long as you're not throwing frogs into thick cover or some shit. Sensitive enough you can feel that 3" bluegill dink pecking at your 1.5" curltail grub. Long enough for good casting distance, short enough to fit under trees and shit. Should be a buttload of options in both 1 and 2 piece rods.

1 piece rods are slightly stronger and marginally more sensitive. 2 piece rods fit in car trunks.

Almost all spinning rods are slow enough for trout, so you're not ripping the hooks out or lures away from them on the hookset, but if you get your choice I'd go for a medium or medium fast flex. Panfish it really doesn't matter, and you're not going to be using the bass techniques that require a fast or x-fast action with a spinning rod.

Go for a small-ish reel. 1500-2500 "size" (varies by manufacturer, not the dinky ultralight trout reel, not the monstrous bass reel that holds 200yds of 10lb mono). Reel size is important to rod balance.

I prefer EVA (foam) grips to cork, they last longer and don't get slimed up as bad if you're handling a lot of fish. They're also somewhat easier to clean. However it is personal preference (cork is marginally more sensitive and more resistant to UV damage if you're out constantly or have big-assed windows wherever you store your kit) and should be the last factor you consider on whether you buy a rod or not.

>>1015839
Kansas and co. have public access borrow pits basically everywhere the state DNR stocked. Usually excellent fishing opportunities with low pressure.

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>>1015828
Those Okuma Stratus V reels, anon mentioned them earlier, they are on sale for $29.99 right now I believe and I bought one maybe a year and a half ago and really like it. The "35" size would be a good medium size for bass and maybe some catfish and 10lb mono or like 20lb braid. But they also have the "25" size which I own and love it. It's smaller and lighter and you could run 6lb mono or I run 10lb braid and with that braid on a 6'6" M Berkley Lightning Rod, I can fish for anything from small bluegill up to larger bass.

I still probably reccommend the Pflueger President over that, you can rely on that for years. But the Okumas are half the price so...

>>1015840
Just down the middle, and then the other half had the flab you normally open up to drink closed, as well as being its sides cut so that the sides could overlap.
The finnish guy filled the bottom part with old mans beard, abundant at practically every treebranch, and cut a couple of holes into the bottom so air got trough it. Old mans beard acted as padding to stick the flies on to.

You had to pull the halves apart to get at the flies, but it worked fine for couple of days.

>>1015850
Nebraska/Kansas are easily worse than any other state. Completely flat, barely any lakes. Like you said it's only stocked places that are decent and even then that's gay as shit compaired to natural fisheries that basicly everywhere else has

>>1015857
Sounds like an "old indian trick" level fuckery. Smart and unpredictable. I like it

>>1015856
I'm the guy that recommended the Okumas. I have a Pflueger President, thing has given me nothing but headaches and has been back for warranty service like 3x now.

The Okuma is the better reel, by a rather large margin. It's smoother, lighter, has a better drag, better feeling handle, and the reel foot and stem flex less. I now own every size Stratus V they make (10, 25, 35, 45, 55 in spinning and the one lefty baitcaster).

Also, the spinning reels are on sale currently for $24.98 in store. Not sure why they're $5 higher online.
>>1015864
They were stocked when they were dug, they're self sustaining fisheries. The bigger ones will even have northerns and tiger muskies in them, and the north half of Nebraska the bigger ones will have actual muskies and perch.

>>1015867
And knowing that even then they are worse then every other state is saying something about those other states.

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>>1015850
Ah, yeah in IL most places like that are off-limits or still in production. Hence my affinity for trespassing. But they're slowly starting to open the old ones to public. In 20 years I bet all of them around my area will be public access, but until then they're all mine haha!
>>1015864
Yeah, this is sort of what I was getting at. If you live in one of those states there's a good chance that you might live miles from the nearest body of water. I can walk out the door and be fishing in 2 minutes. If anything makes Illinois suck its the people or taxes.

>>1015872
Having lived in IL, MO, KS, NE, and IA I can say without a bit of doubt that MO has the least access to good fishing of all of them. You've basically got the Missouri and Mississippi rivers and state parks, which is 100% boat required for anything other than catfish, and if you live in Independence/STL/KS a few county parks that are so severely overfished you're lucky to get even a dink in 6 hours' of fishing.

>>1015815
it's not exactly being a poorfag, it's the thought of spending that kind of money(which I have) on something as trivial as a kayak and mounts.
I guess I am having a hard time rationalizing something I will enjoy over the course of many years, versus the instant regret of spending all that money INSTANTLY.

do you think it would just be best, since I need the rails, the mounts, and the crossbars, to just contact the dealership and see if they have the parts, and then attempt to jew down their egregious dealership prices?

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>>1015058
How good are jitterbugs?

I've literally never caught anything on topwater.

>>1015884
Makes me feel sick just thinking about it.

>takes notes on States never to step foot it

>>1015889
Depends on the area. They can be fucking awesome, or they can be a total dud. They're one of the longest-running continuously produced lures for a reason though.

>>1015889
I actually bought and used one for the first time this weekend. I got 3 nice bass on it but it was also a prime spot to throw topwater. I guess its all about knowing the time and place to throw it. But I liked it, its easy to fish and looks good. I want to try a buzzbait next. Topwater is really exciting when they're hitting.

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>>1015899
Top water is superior

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>>1015835
>ignorant little poacher speaks up

authority over what?
I dont need authority to call you a poacher..
you are a poacher. fishing that illegal spot is poaching hence YOU are a poacher.

what is so hard to understand?

is there a minimim rod strenght for carp and catfish?

>>1015889

My dad swears by them along with Hula Poppers and frogs. They work alright when the bite is on. I don't use top waters much myself.

>>1015906
What is so hard to understand that I don't give a fuck? Worry about the Mexicans that go to public spots and keep 20 fish over the limit, or people that keep fish illegally in general. You're just being an autist over nothing.

>>1015907
Channel catfish and common carp? Medium probably. But you could easly go MH because you don't really need the sensitivity for lures and will probably be running a bit of weight on it. I always like a MH with 12-17lb mono or like 30lb braid for that.

>>1015867
I'm still amazed how smooth those Okumas are for the price. I just want to see how it holds up over time but I have been tempted so many times to buy a couple more when they are on sale just to have as backups.

>>1015907

Depends entirely on the size of the fish. Unless you're specifically targeting trophy blues and flatheads, you'll mostly be catching channel catfish between 1 and 10lbs.

Any 6+ bass rod will handle them. #15+ braid or mono. Size 2000 or larger reel.

Terminal tackle is more important. Catfish like submerged cover and whwn hookes, can surge and twist fiercely. A strong knot in a circle/khael/bait hook and some abrasion resistant leader tied to a barrel swivel will do wonders in helping you land many more fish. And a landing net.

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>>1015886
buy the kayak just dont waste the money on the nice racks when you dont truly need them.
you can find portable racks for $50 or less.
youll still need a couple of pool noodles and a couple ratchet straps. pretty easy to manage on and off takes less than 5 minutes and youre good to go.

I would also suggest looking at thrift stores for a basic entry level pfd.

How do I teach myself how to fish? I'm 26, grew up in midwest, moved to southwest and I'm getting back into my /out/ hobbies (hunting, fishing, hiking, dirtbiking, etc.) I learned when I was a kid, but want to learn everything from the beginning.

tl;dr: Best way to learn how to be /out/

>>1015932

Gander Mountain is still having going out of business sales. In Pflugerville, PFDs were like 40% off or more.

>>1015935

Youtube.

>>1015915
>Worry about the Mexicans
>or people that keep fish illegally in general.
>mentions poachers like himself

you're no different. I would report you the same as them for poaching. like you I also dont give a fuck.

>>1015843

Sounds good. I'll roll with what I have now until I decide I want to get a more specific tool.

>>1015844
>>1015848
>>1015856

2-piece rod, medium / medium-light / medium-fast. 6'-6'6". Probably a cork grip. This is going to be sticking out of a backpack or strapped to the side rack of my motorcycle, so the ease of transport of a 2-piece and UV resistance of cork sound like what I need. Smallish reel, 1500-2500 / 25-25 size. 10-15lb braid.

Thanks for all the info guys, I'm taking notes. I'll probably cruise over to Sportsmans Warehouse at some point this week to browse their inventory based on what I read here. If I don't find anything I'll make the half hour drive to Bass Pro / Cabellas.

I tore down, cleaned, and lubricated my old Shakespeare trout rod to pass on to my wife. At least until she decides she wants to upgrade.

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>Spent $100 on musky swimbaits for my trip
>thought we were going on the 28th
>were actually leaving this Friday
>I won't have my swimbaits
>I spent $200 on a swimbait rod and won't even be able to throw a single swimbait

I'm so asshurt rn

>>1015952
Ehh, sounds like you got it down. You will def like the 1500-2500 size. They are great for freshwater if you are doing lots of panfish and small-med bass.

And the cork grip, some peoplw really prefer one or the other but I never noticed much of a difference other than cork can chip if you knock it around too much. But a couple little chips on the bottom never hurt anybody.

>>1015850
I'm in Kansas and there's only one area that I know of like that. I've never been to it though.

>>1015971
They're literally every 3-5 miles across the entire length of I70 (and I80 and I90, not that matters to KS), and along most of 135 and 335.

>>1015969
Buy a couple fistfuls when you get there. Or use your swimbait rod for live bait, they work pretty well with bigger suckers.

>>1015174

that's a prolapsed anus, most likely Kanye West has been in the waters nearby

>>1015979
These were a specific swimbait that you can't buy in a store. Also there is no such thing as buying them when I get there as the lake that I will be fishing is 60 miles down a logging road in the middle of the wilderness. Maybe I can find a shop in town before we get off but I don't have my hopes up. I'm going to be asshurt all over again when I get home and I see a box on my desk of fresh new baits that I have to wait an entire year to use. Not to mention the bag I ordered that I wanted to pack all my shit in won't be here either because I told the lady I'm leaving the 28th. Fuck I'm mad

>>1015985

Send it back and get credit towards something you'll use.

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>>1015949
>like you I also dont give a fuck.

Clearly you do because you're acting like a pissed off little girl. There's a difference between stealing the fish and catch & release and you know it, whether or not they're both 'le poaching'.

>I would report you the same as them for poaching.
Oh shit I'm scared now!

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>>1015671
Probably this one. I was in Austin about to head home to Fort Worth, but I stopped at this creek for about an hour to fish. I had caught some little fish in it before, but nothing over 2lbs. Well on my third or fourth cast I feel a little bump, I set the hook, and this guy took off. She was jumping, and I had to rip her away from cover two or three times. I doubt she'd been caught many times if ever cause she fought like hell. I don't know why it's the most memorable. Maybe it's just the setting I was in, or how so fought, but it's definitely in the top three.

The other one was when I was on the phone with my friend and I had a little 4" finesse worm just sitting on the bottom. I wasn't shaking it or anything. I feel a bite and set the hook and it took off and I was like "hey man I'm gonna have to call you back this is a big one." And basically threw my phone down lol. That was a 4ish lb fish.

And last would be when I was fucking with the turtle with my mouse topwater and a bass came up and scared the shit out of the turtle.

>>1015674
A bow...

>>1015683
That's awesome.

>>1016013
>A bow...

Like pottery

>>1016013
Nice fish btw

>>1015889
Awesome lure to use at dusk in the summer.
My most memorable bass ever I caught on a jitterbug.
I was running it one evening on the edge of some weed-filled shallows when all of a sudden:
>line zooming towards my lure
>my lure completely vaporizes.
Not kidding, it was like a movie.
I was praying like hell that my knot would hold and the fish wouldn't throw it, especially as one of my HS buddies just happened to be there watching me in awe (I had a well earned reputation for being shit at fishing before this moment).
I landed it and weighed it out- 5.5 pounds
>awwyeah.bmp

I have always kept a jitterbug in my tacklebox ever since.

Granted, most times it doesn't work out that way. But when it does, you NEVER forget it.

>>1015734
>getting a hatchback without a roof rack

>>1015985
Use them for big bass

>>1016026
Thank you!

>>1015748
+(Word)

>>1015985
Like the other anon said. Use for big bass. Some fatass fish just don't give a fuck and inhale baits that are more than half their size. But I'm sure you know this

>>1016073
most of the time even if it doesn't come with a roof rack there are mounting holes

you just need to ask your dealer for the replacement trim or w/e

>>1016082
That's the plan, I wanna first try and make sure I get something that will definitely work, if I can get it for the right price, if not I'll try after market online

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I just got a free 50" lcd tv and I caught this chubby guy today. Life is good my friends.

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>>1016013
nice fish bruh..

y u long arm it doe ლ(｀ー´ლ)

>>1016154
Too make it look bigger duh. Also, I was about to fall and I feel awkward if I hold it close. You can't really tell from the pic, but that thing was thicccccc. It was 5lbs at least.

>>1015668
They only eat grass when they are old. Younger carps are mostly carnivore and plancton eating.

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i found a pond about an acre wide and we saw one fish that day, the senko is from bass pro

>>1016076
>>1015985
+1 a 2 pound bass can and will eat a 9 inch gizzard shad

>>1016253
forgot trip

>>1015478
Luremaker anon, you here?
Do you take requests/job offers?

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>>1016302
I'm here.
I have taken jobs before, but would you take them trough 4chan?

>>1016309
Not the guy to replied to but I sell shit on /k/. Smaller boards seem to be pretty safe for buying and selling

>>1016312
i think pepsi will confirm with his experiences on /o/

halibut look so freakin gross

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>>1016152
It's always nice to see a healthy fish

>>1016013
Nice mane bro

>>1016343

They are pretty stupid looking. Not terribly exciting to catch either, just feels like pulling a sack of rocks up from the bottom.

>>1016329
Ehh, they used to get mad but now as long as the stickerfags stay in their thread, the mods seem to be ok with it. Back in the day when Trolly first tried to sell them and he was the only one, he got b&. Twingo plushie dude got b& too when he did the first batch, and he never even made any profits on those.

When you tie a knot so powerful that the only thing it fears is losing its power.

At what point a fly is not a fly anymore?
For example, if I took a piece of wood, and glued it to a hook, would it still be a fly, or has it become a popper lure?

>>1016407

When it stops being about a bunch of hair, feathers, and string making a hook look good. There can be other stuff on it, but it still needs stylish hair and feathers and shit.

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>>1016187

>>1015671
Have also caught a dead body if anyone wants to hear about that

>>1016427
Do tell

>>1016407
its debatable. my definition is by style of construction. when you make a hard lure and then add a hook to it, its not a fly. if you start with only a hook, and dress it, to be fished as is and not added to anything, its a fly.
so, if you sit there and carve a wooden spook, then come back and add a hook to it, its not a fly. when you take a hook, and dress it with feathers and hair, then add that to a spinner body, its not a fly. if you clamp the hook in a vice, dress it with feathers and hair, then glue on a popper body, so the hook is the primary part, it is a fly. the exception to this rule is a tube fly, its tied and crafted as a fly, but on a small tube instead of a hook. its the same method of construction otherwise.

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>>1016302
wat yu tryna make?

>>1016309
>selling chit on 4chink
>fugg all that

>>1016407
>when the boundaries of fly and lure intersect

amongst fly tyers theyre called "flures"
in purist circles the word "flures" is often used in a derogatory way as a put down. bob pop got a lot of that abuse on some forums when he would release his new fly designs. If you think about it even a bead head would be considered "cheating" in some circles.

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>>1016353
It might be going soon. I can't decide if I actually like it or not, but thanks lol.

>>1016427
>>1016431
+1

>>1016441
>If you think about it even a bead head would be considered "cheating" in some circles.

I'm not saying flyfags are pretentious, but...

Whatever happened to the one guy who made flies and sustinence fished?

Fly /outists, I need an advice. Should I buy Pool 12 Powerfly 9' #5? As a beginner rod because I want into flyfishing trout on the lakes and maybe some light seatrout fishing also.

>>1016432
So what you're saying is that fly fishermen are autistic. Makes sense.

My dad is from Rosario, Argentina which is basically the Chicago of Argentina.
>Be me, 8 years old
>Go to visit family/vacation
>Decide to fish the Rio Parana which is fuck huge/wide river
>Setup massive rod for Catfish and use giant chunks of cut carp soaked in sardine juice
>fishing for Surubi(look it up)
>River is flooded as fuck, 8' higher than usual
>Feel tugging on rod
>Reel in what feels like massive dead weight
>It's a fucking rotting dead guy

I still remember how it looked. The guy was grey skinned, his feet and hands were knawed off to the wrist bones... Smelled awful obvi, and had hisbwhole midsection ripped open with pink flesh like the Xeno from Alien... My dad called the cops but don't know what became of it

Ever since that i've always been paranoid about swimming in fresh water. I almost had a panic attack when i got Scuba Certified and had to do my certification dive in a murky as fuck Quarry. Which sucks dick because my two main pasions are fishing and scuba diving

>>1016448
I looked up the rod, and cant find anything on it. I'd recommend going for a 6 weight 9 foot Fenwick eagle fly rod, or a reddington clearwater with similar specs, and a reddington behemoth fly reel minimum if you are going to do anything in saltwater

>>1016464
Fuck, forgot tripcode again

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>>1016445
>pretentious

many are...many arent.
some people take their hobbies a little too seriously to the point of infringing on others creativity..thats a flyfag for ya'

trashfly anon? wondered the same. i kinda think he posts still but has changed his shtick. (though the angle has changed, ones writing/wording style often stays the same) dont you tripnigs have access to that kind of shit?

>>1016448
i would go 6-7wt itll make casting easier for you.

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>>1016441
...and those circles are full of autists with nothing better to do.
They need to read up on their Tom Nixon and quit sucking each others' cocks.

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>>1016452
>Surubi
Those things look awesome.

>I almost had a panic attack when i got Scuba Certified and had to do my certification dive in a murky as fuck Quarry.
Damn that sucks. Are you better about it now or does it still freak you out?

>>1016469
Kek yeah I think every style of fishing has the purist. It just seems like flyfags are the loudest about it.

>dont you tripnigs have access to that kind of shit?
Good question. I only trip in these threads so I dunno.

I need to get back into fly tying. That was fun.

>>1016448
Thirding a 6 weight rod. It'll be easier to cast starting out, will stand up to bigger bycatch when fishing seatrout, and isn't overkill for freshwater trout.

>>1016449
Chicken and egg problem, really.
Fly fishing can be engrossing. It rewards people who pay attention to details. But because of that it also attracts the people who get hyper-focused on every little aspect of everything, trying to make it perfect and place everything into neat little ideological boxes.
But life-and fishing-isn't like that. Sometimes crazy, ugly shit works, and that needs to be accounted for too.

Hey /out/, i'm going camping at a state park, and I want to fish.
I've never fished before.
I've just gotten my license (In new jersey) and am camping at bass river. According to my googling, the species of fish in the area are pickerel, sunfish, and catfish. Can someone point me at what to do? Is getting a cheep ~20$ wall mart pole, some hooks, and some worms a decent idea? Or is this stupid of me?

>>1016445
Fly fags are 100% pretentious.

They enjoy their own farts like a fine wine and only care about who can catch a fish with a fly as small as their dicks.

Fly fishermen are man lovers first and fishermen last.

The only group of people worse would be social justice warriors.

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fuck it, I ordered the crossbar kit parts for my car.
The way I see it is I have another year/and half before I am genuinely supporting myself so I might as well make the most of this financial cushion I am sitting on right now.

hopefully by this weekend I will have a Kayak and a new found freedom and love for fishing

>>1016490
Not stupid.
It gets you out on the water. Better stuff will be more durable/ throw farther/be more sensitive etc, but what you've got will work for now. The most important thing is to BE FISHING. You can't catch anything if your line's not in the water.

>>1016506
Is it better to use hooks and fake bait, or real bait?
I was thinking of getting this.
And should I Just get some line, hooks, worms and a leatherman?
https://www.amazon.com/Abu-Garcia-Dude-Spinning-Combo/dp/B011LV74OQ
I'm reading the info in the OP at the moment.

>>1016481
>sometimes crazy ugly shit works
Like wooly buggers. Those ugly things still confuse me but I've caught basically every US game fish on one. Think I'm just missing blue cat and grass pickerel.

>>1016509
Catfishing is best with "real" bait (nightcrawlers, bluegill, dip bait). Everything else is close to equal, but live bait is gonna be the lowest effort.

>>1016481

That sounds about right. My brother in law fits that description to a T. He considers all other kinds of fishing other than fly fishing for trout to be simplistic and suitable only for those who can't manage to fly fish.

I also think the niche market allows people in the industry to charge more, which makes it less attractive to value minded anglers, which plays even more into the elitist aspects.

But my coworker also fly fishes and he's a cool guy.

I'm just waiting for the day I see someone practicing traditional Japanese style fishing. I might take it up just to see how some flyfags react.

what exactly is the point of putting skirts on baits?

>>1016505
Too bad you live in Ohio

>>1016529
Just like clothes on women. It's more tantalizing if you haven't seen what's under that skanky little skirt.

Fish just can't resist grabbing on and seeing if the chatter meme is a roastie with big lips.

>>1016516

Lowest effort is buying Gulp catfish chunks. I put doughballs and punch bait above that as you have to deal with treble hooks and keeping the shit on the hook.

Catfish wise, catching live bait and cutting it up while chumming the area is the most time/effort intensive way. You can spend more time preparing to fish than you do fishing, but you will catch any fish that's biting.

>>1016516
Thanks. Any other advice you can give me?
>>1016534
I saw these recipes. Are they okay?
http://www.gameandfishmag.com/fishing-tips-and-tactics/how-to-make-your-own-catfish-dough-bait/

>>1016529

They give a lure a little more action. Without the skirt a jig is just a weight, a spinner bait is just some blades.

>>1016535

Making your own bait is fun and all. But Danny Kings is like 5 bucks a can at Walmart and will last several trips.

IMO, it's more effective (and fun) to take some size 8 cricket hooks, a piece of bread/worm/grasshopper/snail/whatever and catch the hell out of panfish between 1 to 5 inches long. Even some chub or shiners if you're lucky.

They're the best bait not just for catfish, but any large predatory fish like bass. Cut them up or fish them whole.

The only issue is that you have to catch fish in order to start catching fish... but if your body of water doesn't have biting panfish, you have bigger problems.

>>1016548
>catch fish to catch fish
Yo dawg...

In other news, cast nets and minnow traps exist. And crawfish or minnow traps can be made from 2 2L soda bottles using only a stapler.

>>1016551

Most fishermen (especially new ones) don't actually know how to use cast nets and minnow traps catch bait that's way to small... for me anyway. And it's more gear for a novice to buy, learn to use, and lug around.

But yeah, learning to use a cast net and investing in a good shrimp/crab/Crawfish trap was the best thing I ever did as far as long term fishing is concerned.

>>1016551
info graph me dawg

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>>1016505
take a free online boating safety class.
pfd pfd pfd..
leash all your gear
google kayak fishing crate
try a minimalist approach to gearing up
google kayak anchor trolley
youtube kayak re-entry/self rescue
youtube homemade kayak dolly
dont use a scupper cart

youll have a great time on the water.

>>1016558
>google kayak fishing crate

Or save yourself 50 bucks and get one from work or something.

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>>1016509
By Craig E. Timmonson April 24, 2017

Verified Purchase

I'm very pleased with this pole has a good feel in the hand seems to be a great quality operates flawlessly. The first fish I caught with this pole was a 25 pound Carp and it handled that with no problem at all.

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>>1016560
nigga that doesnt say 'buy a crate'
its so he knows they exist and how to easily make one..anon was worrying about spending money on a cheap yak & rack you think he's going to get it wrapped and buy yakattack accessories right off the bat? probably not...

railblaza(sp?) is just aluminum t-slot you can get at lowes or hd
a milkcrate is free
anchor trolley is a easy diy
a cart can be made out of pvc pipe
a rudder can be made from a cutting board
a trolling motor mount is a easy diy
installing a fish finder is easy nigga

>>1016449
I was just trying to blend into the boards lingo, nothing more.
>>1016464
>>1016469
>>1016479
Thanks for the tips, I'll think about it. My idea was to get 5# to start and to have for lakes and streams and then next year to get #9-10 spey I can use for sea trout and mainly salmon. But I'll look into getting a #6 if thats recommended.

On flyfishing and flyfags many people are true that they are elitist cirkle jerkers but I don't really give a fuck. I just like light gear when I go fishing and I have a melancholic memories about fishing tenkara style on the streams when I was a kid, I remember how much fun was it. Also I was always attracted to flyfishing but this is the first time I have the time to do it so this summer I'm doing it.

>>1015681
sorry about your brother. hang in there

I'm trying to teach myself to flyfish, but my bugs keep popping off my leader. why such is the case? (my leader is kind of old.. could be dry rotted?

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>>1016607
popping off in the back cast?

>>1016612

yes i believe so

>>1016475
I still avoid swimming in freshwater lakes/rivers, more so murky ones tho unless it's for a Dive.
But if there is booze and bitches involved then i just have to put my game face on and suck it up buttercup

>>1016535
A couple of very basic tips:
>don't buy cheap no-name Chinese hooks off amazon/ebay/aliexpress/etc, they usually have shit tempers and are dull as fuck
>avoid the classic cheapo hollow plastic bobbers, they're brittle and will eventually fill up with water. Stick with the solid foam ones until you're comfy enough fishing to try slip bobbers, then get the balsa ones.
>always carry something that can cut hook wire, in case you hook yourself (this can be as simple as a $0.50 set of small sidecutters from Harbor Freight/Northern Tool, or a multitool)
>always tell someone where you're going, even if it's a very safe county park or some shit
>check the links in the OP for fishing knots, and practice them before you go
>a big hook will catch a big fish (and occasionally an exceptionally stupid and/or dedicated bluegill). A small hook will catch anything that can't pull it straight (which should be everything, set your drag properly). One of the biggest mistakes I see is people using too-large hooks.
>>1016557
>minnow trap
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-A-Minnow-Trap-Out-Of-Soda-Bottles/
>crawdad trap
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crawfish-Trap

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Hey there sc/out/s,

Motorcycle anon here, was asking for advice on purchasing a rod + reel yesterday. After taking in all the information you guys shared, I spent some time in Sportsman's Warehouse this morning.

I ended up buying a rod.

Okuma SST-S-663 L. It's a 6'6", light, three-piece rod. Came with a little hard case tube that's nice for transport, and will prevent me from accidentally breaking it in transit. Pic related.

How did I do? Good choice for general purpose fishing for small fish to eat in Arizona and surrounding states? If I fucked up I can always return it and get something else, maybe a shorter ultra-light? Idk.

They didn't have the specific reels that were suggested, and nothing really stood out to me, so I'm going to read up a little more on them and maybe check out some other stores.

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>>1016613
Sounds to me like you're not letting the line straighten out during your casts. When you go back and forth without letting it uncurl it creates a whip action that snaps the fly off. I'm a noob so I could be completely wrong but that has been my understanding while learning to cast in my yard with yarn flies

>>1015995
Why did you tuck your pants around your cock?

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>>1016613
lots of things can do that, do you haul aggressively? rushing the cast sometimes does that. do you hear snapping popping noises sometimes in back of you when you cast?

slow down your casting, take a pause in your backcast, literally squint and turn your head and watch your loop unfurl. when its out relatively straight youll feel the rod load and this is the time to sslowly accelerate your forward cast
Im guessing it may be due to your timing. slowing it all down, clearing your mind and focusing on the mechanics sometimes helps.

>>1016662
Anon that recommended the F&S rods and Okuma reels here. A light action rod might be a bit too light for any real bass fishing, but that's not to say if you hook into one fishing for something else it can't handle it.

Good job on getting the travel rod.

I have no personal experience with Okuma rods (nobody local carries them and I'm not ordering one online on just good faith), but they seem to unilaterally get good reviews.

>>1016621
Damn. At least you don't let it stop you from doing what you enjoy.

>>1016613
>>1016664
>>1016669
I know when I first learned I would sometimes let the back cast go for too long and my fly would be hitting the ground. I lost a lot of flies because of this lol.

Does anyone have a case study on catch and release that showed even with non-ideal circumstances, a fish's tolerance for stress is far more than anyone single catch and release event?

My friend honestly believes you need to baby every fish you catch with wet hands, cutting hooks, and never taking it out of the water for more than 5seconds

>>1016674

>that's not to say if you hook into one fishing for something else it can't handle it.

Kind of what I was thinking, and the guy at the store said it could handle it if I snagged a small catfish or something. I'm trying to keep bulk and weight down, so this was about my upper size limit.

I saw a handful of telescopic rods also, but I was worried they would be too shit compared to a two or three piece. Anyone have any experience with Sougayilang / PLUSINNO or telescopic rods in general?

I did look at some Okuma reels, but they didn't have the ones you mentioned.

Daiwa, Pflueger, Penn, Shimano, Okuma, and Abu Garcia all had decent looking reels in the size and price range I'm looking at ($60-120 or so), and they all seemed really similar. How do you guys choose a reel? Any of these brands I should gravitate to or avoid? Best warranties / customer service?

>>1016677
>I know when I first learned I would sometimes let the back cast go for too long and my fly would be hitting the ground
This, and not watching my backcast and getting hung up in trees/brush.

I've caught more oakfish and stickbass than anything else on my fly rod, mainly because I don't have a boat.
>>1016684
Telescopic rods are universally and categorically shit, and none of the respectable manufacturers make them for a reason. You made the right choice with the 3-piece travel rod.

I'm pretty sure the Stratus V's are a Dick's exclusive.

I like Shimano reels for the most part, even their cheap ones are at least okay and they make some of the best reels going at the highest price bracket. Daiwa's cheaper reels are junk but they do have some good ones once you clear the $75 bracket. Okuma doesn't make a bad anything, but the Stratus V's seem to hit a particularly sweet bracket on price:perf. I think Abu's are overpriced for their quality due to having a history longer than Zebco they're milking, but they're not junk. I think Okuma outclasses Pflueger at all price brackets, but Pflueger President reels are decent (refer to my earlier argument with the guy that recommended the President for specifics). I don't think they have a small-ish spinning reel better than the President but under $120.

Best customer service I've had to deal with is Mitchell. They're decent reels, but at the same time they're the only ones I've had to actually use the warranty with--I got a lemon, haven't from any other brand. YMMV. Okuma CS is meh but they have a long warranty period. Abu CS is shiiiiiiiiiitttt, they start blaming you and claiming [totally fabricated abuse] voided your warranty before you even tell them what's going on. Never used Shimano's, Penn's, or Daiwa's CS so no idea on that.

>>1016684
Let's put it this way:

My grandparents lived in Clearwater, FL, and had a house on the Bay with a dock. I would take my cheapo $25, 5'0" UL Shakespeare combo down there and catch pinfish (basically saltwater bluegill) off the dock on hotdog chunks.

One time a 3', ~30lb lemon shark smacked the pinfish I was fighting. I landed it after a 3 hour fight on 4lb line. 2 days later I got bored and was flogging the water with a small buzzbait and hooked a ~9lb [some form of jack that I never positively ID'd], fought it for around 20 minutes before landing it.

>>1016684
I have reels from shimano, pflueger and abu. I've only had 1 issue and pflueger customer service was outstanding.

>>1016680
It depends on a lot of stuff though. The species, the water quality, health of the other fish, ect. but most fish should be fine even if you're pretty rough. Don't be a dick to the fish though. I'm gentle with them more out of respect than worrying about them dying.

>>1016688
>I've caught more oakfish and stickbass than anything else on my fly rod

Kek

>>1016680
I swear I've been catching same 2-3 halibuts in in the whole week multiple times because they are in exact same spot in the surf and have exact same size.

One of them is probably dead now because last time, despite being a dink, it managed to hit a 4.5 inches moving crankbait in fast current very accurately somehow and get the whole thing in its mouth and got hooked with the back treble on its gills from the inside. RIP dink halibut.

>>1016688

>Telescopic rods are universally and categorically shit.

I just had that intuition that they would be, glad I steered clear.

>Abu is overpriced, CS is shit.

Good to know, honestly the Abu reels I looked did "feel" cheaper than comparably priced options from other manufacturers. I'll probably avoid them.

Seems like it's kind of a wash from one company to another, and more depends on the specific reel in question.

>>1016690

>$25, 5'0" UL Shakespeare

That's exactly what I'm replacing, actually. 5'0" Shakespeare "Cirrus" UL that my dad gave me when I was 10 or something.

Good to know the light rod will probably be fine. I looked at a couple of ultralight travel rods, but they seems so thin I decided the light was probably a better choice.

>>1016692

Thanks for the info.
Opinions on front vs rear drag adjustment on a spinning reel? Rear honestly seemed more convenient, but there must be a disadvantage because front seems to be much more prevalent.

>>1016529
It hides the profile of the hook.
Also, it makes it look a little twitchy, kind of like a couple of baitfish swimming together.

>>1016551
They do, but it's more gear than a newbie needs for his first time out.
A simple fishing trip that's productive and fun is the best advertising for fishing there is.

>>1016449
not all of them, usually the best aren't
sometimes there are days where flyfishing kills it
some days there arent
i've had days where all the fish (bluegill in this case) wanted was a dry fly presentation, so i tied on a foam ant, and outfished everyone there, by size and numbers using maggots, because the seasoned bluegill in that over-fished lake spook at loud plops, and people say "there's only dinks in there" because of it
other times they wont touch anything tied, and you just have to accept that some days, a conventional lure, or live bait, is better. usually flyfishing is already a hinderence, but thats part of the fun, the challenge
>>1016481
+1 its only the traditionalists using bamboo rods, and $200 silk line that are a pain in the ass
>>1016493
>Fly fags are 100% pretentious.
only traditionalists/purists
and even the normal flyfishermen are annoyed by them
>>1016505
>ohio
wanna go fishing sometime?
>>1016514
+1 i dont know why they work but they do. they're like the fly fishing equivalent of a curly tail grub, it doesnt really look like anything, but it also looks like everything by just moving in a tasty-looking way. how about mop flies, too? the only thing they could be is cranefly larvae or maybe helgramites
>>1016531
+1
>>1016560
steal a milk-crate from behind circle k, i did for my boyfriend once
>>1016578
>a milkcrate is free
>anchor trolley is a easy diy
+1 +1
>a rudder can be made from a cutting boar
i dont think you need a rudder, that's more work, just a skeg
which is easy enough
zoffiger on youtube should have some info on skegs
somewhere
>>1016607
if it is popping at any point, you're doing something wrong. try taking a longer pause. if your leader is more than a year old, replace it, leaders aren't cheap, but you can buy 3 for 9 dollars and and some tippet material for 3-5 dollars,and make that last all year if you dont snag a lot
look up the orvis fly casting videos, those are how i learned how to cast
10/10 i reccomend them

>>1016680
I have caught the same bass multiple times before, but I'm sure it depends on the species. Def be smart about it, but I know that LMB and bluegill can deal with it fine as long as you don't fuck with them too much.

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>>1016701
>stole a milkcrate
>for my boyfriend
This is why people don't like you. Just sayin...

>>1016668
Because he has a cock.

Do fish really see line or is that a meme?

>>1016708
I'm pretty sure they can all see it or feel it, but it depends on the species and fishing conditions. When going for bass, they are too focused on the big moving bait to even notice the line. I hear trout are super shy so if you're fishing a heavily pressured trout spot, flouro might help.

>>1016669
+1>>1016662
i'd say you did pretty well, that's about what i would reccomend for small lures (curly tail grubs, inline spinners, small cranks) and just bobber with small hook for general small fish to eat. should be perfect for panfish and trout, but still handle most fishing pretty nicely. i didnt see your initial post, but if you want to just grab a functional reel that's actually really good for the money, i'd reccomend an okuma avenger in a 20 or 25 size, i've had mine in a 40 for ~5 or 6 years now, and it is a really nice reel for the money. then either 6 or 8 pound test line, or 15-20 pound test braid should be a nice addition to that
>>1016668
he's either a nigger, or a wigger, why wouldnt he?
>>1016680
ive heard studies done where fish handled roughly (dry hands, dropped on the ground, bleeding upon release, faught to too high a level of exhaustion, etc) have anywhere from a 40%-60% chance of living, depending some factors. obviously a trout is more sensative than a carp or catfish, and needs more gentle handling, and most saltwater fish are more robust than freshwater
>>1016684
okuma, penn, shimano, and daiwa are all usually pretty hard to fuck up
and i've actually got an eagle claw packit rod i got for $20 as part of a combo. the reel was absolute garbage, and i replaced it with slightly less garbage of a reel, but i really like it. i've even gotten 20 inch pike on it no problem
https://www.amazon.com/Eagle-Claw-Telescopic-Spinning-5-Feet/dp/B003MGA1E4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494976611&sr=8-1&keywords=eagle+claw+packit
its not the most sensative, its not perfect, but for me it seems to work
>>1016688
>not watching my backcast and getting hung up in trees/brush.
thats how i lose 2/3 of my flies
>>1016688
>categorically shit
+1 the eagle claw i have is only good as compared to other telescopic rods, compared to a real rod it isnt very sensative, its not as strong, it doesnt cast as well
but compared to a telescopic rod its pretty okay

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>>1016680
>lactic acid
During an Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation study, up to 43 percent of fish released after being caught died within six days as a result of inadequate holding and weigh in procedures during tournaments.[14]

More recent studies reported in Montana estimate that approximately 20% of released trout die from injuries or stress and even those that don't die, their injuries may significantly reduce their ability to feed and grow.[15]

>freshwater fish are weaklings

>>1016694
coka cola or mt dew poured down their gills will seal a bleeder up sometimes. big shouts out to citric acid!

>>1016708
they do see it, fish can see anything thicker than 2 pound test flourocarbon
the thing is, they dont care, they eat it anyways. the same way a cat will attack a feather on the end of yarn, its not that they can't see the yarn, they just dont care

>>1016696
Rear drag is more parts, more expensive to make and doesn't work as well.
Front drag is right there where you're attaching the spool anyway. Might as well make it a screw, put some friction discs in there and call it a drag.
Rear drag is nice in theory-especially if the reel has quick change spools at the push of a button-but hardly anybody ever changes spools, and any spare spools usually just get lost. It's just not worth the extra cash.

>>1016709
Well I'm going on a fishing trip memorial day weekend with some work friends and I don't want to look like a noob. We're mainly fishing for catfish, which I've done several times in small farm ponds. I've always used these premade catfish rigs that have a black leader line. I feel like I should have a lot more luck than I do on these little stocked ponds, so I was debating whether or not to buy fluorocarbon leader line and make my own rigs. I just dropped $130 on an Abu Garcia C4 baitcaster and bought some 50 lb test braided line

>>1016711

I know this is probably controversial, but I've always thought catch and release was fucking stupid.

I wont harvest game of any kind that I don't intend to eat.

The other side of this is that if everyone was keeping all their catches, you'd depopulate everything and there would be no fish to catch anyway. That's almost certainly true, and the only real solution is for people to start treating fishing more like hunting. Fish less often, stop after catching fewer fish, and enjoy responsibly.

Unfortunately that will probably never happen, and fishing hobbyists wont limit their hobby fishing for the sake of preservation, and so you have what we have now.

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>>1016719
Oops, forgot the pic of the rigs I buy. Basically a slip sinker rig that keeps the weight from sliding more then a few inches away from the leader line.

>>1016706
not much of one

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>>1016708
>fish don't know what fishing line is
>therefor fishing line does not exist