Fishing & Tackle Thread

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I did a thing

>>1004943
Idk the pattern looks different. Like the blue in green sunfish is usually more like squiggles and this is spots like crappie. I'm sure it's some hybrid lol.

>>1004947
Hybrids of sunfish are really common. Thats why i wouldnt bother figuring out what it is down to the DNA-sequences.

Unless you get something neat like a sunfish + bass hybrid

>>1004942
>"Blondes aint bad tbqhwy"

Did here chin hit your keyboard there at the end?

>>1004947
And the red spot by the gill, could be redear x green

>>1004949
>to be quite honest with you
Idk if they still filter "t.b.h"

>test
>desu
>will end up being something gay like "desu"
>tfw they also tried to filter "cuck"

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Troutglider™ is a meme

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Just got back from the first outing on the new boat. It started off shittiy because it was raining and no one brought rain gear so we sat inside and played pool until it passed. Once we go out there it was nice. Boat ran excellent all day. I never realized how much of a pain in the ass it is to use a trolling motor though. We ended up with a handle full of small mouth, my budy caught his first ever pike. It's was a pretty nice one for there, around 32-35 inches we didn't measure. I also for the first time caught what I think is a big ass golden shiner but it might be a small carp because I've seen carp there before. Little freak destroyed my jerkbait. I'll post some pics later they are all on my buddy's phone

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>>1004942
AZ Salty Here

Look what I got.

>>1004963
What in tarnation is a javelin?

>>1004973
A bass boat brand. I think they have been around quite some time but aren't as gaudy or obnoxious as that new Nitro with flames down the side.

>>1004951
>tfw still filters it
Why all this censorship????

>>1004969
Wow. That's trippy. That is 100% a bluegill/crappie hybrid, right? I tried looking into that awhile ago and I don't even know if it's supposed to be possible biologically but it obviously happens. Look at the head and eyes, it's like somebody photoshopped a crappie and bluegill together.

>>1004942
How do I into fishing? I literally live in the sportsman's paradise, and I used to fish with my aunt's husband and my grandmother every now and again as a kid in the Florida panhandle.


What's a good entry rod and reel?

>>1004978
I'm actually fairly certain it's a sunfish man. Lake pleasant is known for monster fucking blue gills and green and hybrid sunfish.

The crappie are almost non existent there compared to Roosevelt or San carlos lakes. No standing wood and grass.

Sportsman's Warehouse fish picture wall in phoenix is loaded with blue gill and sun fish pictures of that size.

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>>1004989
13 inches

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>>1004997
Small blue gill/sunfish mouth.

It's just a monster. Don't think it's part crappie

>>1004969
That is a fat little thing. Did you keep it?

>>1005006
Nevermind, that is what I get for not refreshing before I post.

>>1005006
See the pics above. Yes I did. Her gill was wrecked. She inhaled a small drop shot hook and got torn up. Lots of bleeding. She was packed full of eggs too. I will post the Thai steam I do o the fish later tonight gotta go get ginger and green onions

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Still can't believe I fish the ocean for the 3 days and catch 2 fish then fish in a creek for 30 minutes and catch a 5lber.

>>1004948
Oh I know I just think it's neat to speculate

>>1004969
Noice

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>>1004973
>>1004977
Bass boat brand that either went out of business or had a name change or something like that In the early 2000's.

Here's what I think was a golden shiner? First time in my life ever catching one

>>1005015
Pretty sure that's a rudd not a golden shiner. Same group of fish as shiners and carp and shad though.

The males get knobbly nose pimples for breeding for some reason.

>>1004981
PLS guys?

I want to do some small time bayou fishing once a month or so

>>1005026
I may be thinking of the wrong fish. Googling rudd doesn't look like it. It's for sure not a shiner. Maybe a sucker or something of some kind or a roach?

>>1005030
Brah, get a 100 dollar bait caster of any top name brand, an 80 dollar rod of any top brand, and 15 to 20 lb copolymer P-Line and have at it. Use the fisherman's improved clinch knot. Get some 6 inch keitech fat shad swim baits and rig them up and start fishing. Problem solved. Use either half ounce jig heads with size 3 hooks or a size 4 ewg weighted swim bait hooks.

Tie an arbor knot on your line to the spool though.

>>1005038
Am I gonna look like a cock ?

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>>1005033
Baby carp? There are big carp in this river. Never caught one one but they are usually much bigger

Here's a nice 2+ pound chunky small mouth

>>1004997
>>1005000
Maybe, but those spots plus that shape of the head really look like it has some crappie DNA. I have seen some other pics like that too and people say the same thing but nobody ever seems to confirm it with science.

>>1005043
No. If you're going to hit the salt water a lot get a 7 foot 6 or longer heavy rod fast action rod. If you mean to take small inshore medium heavy is fine.

If your super concerned get an inshore rated reel from a company. You should still rinse it off with fresh water after every outing.

Get some different sized swim baits and kastmaster spoons.

>>1005047
Ok i didn't wanna look like a new hobbyist who spent way too much and knows way too little

>>1005046
Nope. It's 100% a red ear sunfish also known as a shell cracker to red necks.

panfish-bream-brim-/261071-hybrid-crappie-bluegill/

Check this article. It even features dead tooth girl.

>>1005054
Goofed the link my bad

http://www.crappie.com/crappie/panfish-bream-brim-/261071-hybrid-crappie-bluegill/

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>>1005058
>>1005054
Kek.

Pic related. Definitely a the same fish.

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>>1005059
More evidence

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>>1005026
Figured out what it was. It's a fall fish. Never seen or caught one before today.

Here's my buddy's pike. First one he ever caught as well

>>1005067
Definitely a fall fish. Good find. Cyprinid fish always confuse me. They all are carp and minnows.

>>1004963
how much was this thing?

>>1005075
I'm going to guess 8 to 12 grand.

>>1005015
not a shiner

>>1005077
>>1005075
$5700. Sold my other boat for $1500 so $4200 out of my pocket

>>1005081
Not bad. Looks like a decent rig if the maintenance doesn't rape the fuck out of you and you don't need to fix a live well, trolling motor, and outboard in 6 months.

Pretty jealous/10

Have fun fegit.

>>1005081
whered you find it? im trying to get one before summer, and it looks like exactly what i want.
also is there a name for this type of boat?
did it come with trailer?
sorry for so many questions.

>>1005085
It's a bass boat man.

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>>1005084
>>1005085
I got it on Craigslist from a guy who got it from his uncle who got it brand new. The guy I bought it from didnt fish that much and wanted to get a snowmobile so he sold me it for $5700. The post was for $6500 but I knew he'd take less. It's a 2001 javelin venom 18 with a 115hp jhonson two stroke engine. Trailer is original to the boat and so is the cover he gave me for it. The guy I got from is really good with mechanical shit and he kept this thing immaculate. Only thing it needs is a pull cord for the trolling motor because the one I put on was fucked. Other than that it's been perfect, keeping my fingers crossed it stays that way

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>>1005059
Toof girl was one of the pics I got months ago when I googled "Bluegill Crappie Hybrid"

>>1005091
Except that it's a red ear sunfish and it's own distinct species. Crappie do not hybridize with gills or sun fish. Black and white will mix in some lakes

to the guy who mentioned the bow and arrow method last thread than you so much

saved me 2 lures today that I was sure were completely stuck

>>1004997
It must be part crappie. Sunny's faces get flatter as they get larger.

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>>1004942
Just tossed her I the steam pot.

Doused fish I. Soy sauce and premium fish sauce. Stuff with chopped ginger and black pepper and green onion. Slice lines to get flavor in the meat. Top with chopped ginger, garlic, red pear Korean chili sauce, salt, ground black and white peppercorn medley, and chopped green onions. Apply more spy and fish sauce to taste. Be gentle with the fish sauce you can ruin it.

Steam with chicken broth below.

Also add sesame seeds and orange peel top with dried chili and seaweed crushed up.

Bam.

Had to trim the tail to fit the bug bastard. Oil the pan too.

>>1004942
There are two lakes near me that have pike in them. How do I go about finding pike and targeting them instead of bass?

>>1005106
That's what I thought after looking into it but most Redears are darker and the ones like anon caught almost look like they have a crappie face. Maybe it's just when they get lighter colors or get big, they look like some hybrid.

>>1005138
That's what got me too, not just the colors and pattern. Sunfish normally look really round like a salad plate when they get big and that one has a hump on the head and around the eyes that looks so close to be a hybrid of a crappie and sunfish. I don't think it's possible tho.

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>>1005139
Done

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>>1005145
Yall are missing out

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>>1005148
>tfw I pretty much just live in my garage now
I have a TV and cable box I want to hook up in here but I still need a reason to go inside besides my bed.

>>1005158
Is the garage not too hot?

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>>1005158
move the bed?

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>>1005145
whats up with the tangerines?

>>1005145
>>1005148
Looks good, a lot of work, but good.

>>1005177
It's a bit of work but fuck it's good. Steamed fish us much healthier and moist and flaky than fried trash.

Then again....I Do Love Me Some Fried FISH. But it gets old if all you ever eat is fried fucking fish.

This is my favorite recipe.

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>>1005174
I ate them with it lol. Also the fish had orange zest on it during the steam so it seemed appropriate.

>BTW guys
This is THE BEST chicken bouillon on the planet for soups and steams. It's made in the US too so it's not some China mystery powder that's half lead and mercury. It's just an Asian brand like kikoman basically.

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>>1005161
I mean it's warm, but I live near the ocean so there's always a breeze and it's like 85F in the summer or maybe a couple degrees more.

I actually have this AC unit in here but I don't like using it unless I really have to. Garage isn't insulated for shit so you gotta run the thing for hours to really get the temp down and then the first time I open the garage door, it's all gone. I guess if I'm really working on something and want cooler temps I will run it and point the vent towards me.

But I love the weather. It's nice to sleep in my 72F bedroom but when I wake up in the morning all cold, I make a cup of coffee and come relax in the 80F garage.

>>1005167
Lel maybe, but as mentioned before the AC is comfy for sleeping. I could get another couch but I need to get rid of other bullshit in storage so I can still pull a car in here and have a couch.

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>tfw your usual fishing spot is ruined by some bullshit construction happening on the river right across from it.

The other side is a golf course but they're manipulating the current by making a big-ass platform right on the water and it making their side have calm water while the public side is a lot more more faster now. Doesn't help that the construction sounds scared off all the fish. Fucking kikes.

>>1005185
>that katana
>skid walks in
>transforms into a gay fish beast holding a red rocket dog cocktail martini
>bepis says sorry kid and turns into his true say an form "Pepsi" and instantly teleports behind skid
>slices him and half and let's out a Kamehameha wave and the energy is in the shape of a sebile flat shad vibe.

>nothin personal

>>1005184
ehh i dont trust american chicken

canadian chicken only for me

>>1005139
>>1005145
you got any more recipes like this senpai?

>>1005188
This is true

>>1005191
>senpai
Fuck this website f@m

>>1005198
I unironically write senpai and desu now

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>>1005127
It's a life saver

>>1005185
Let's start a band Bepis

>>1005186
You wouldn't happen to be talking about the golf course by the Trinity in north Fort Worth would you? I used to fish there at lunch, but then they started construction and blocked off access. I don't know if they're done I haven't checked in a long ass time.

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When are we doing the drawing for secret santa?

>>1005184
I really like the little knorr cubes, a quarter of one of those in a cup of rice were 99% of what I ate during my poor times

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Anyone know FishUSA's shipping mehtod, how well they pack rods to make sure they dont break?

Was wanting to buy a rod from them.

>>1005244
Idk, is everybody set? One person dropped out because they didn't have $25 but I guess I could draw this week.

>>1005243
>band
Anytime.

I wish I had a few grand laying around so I could mic up the drums properly.

>>1005246
If you have an odd number of people you should give the last guys address to several people and let us all send them 1 or 2 things, otherwise I'm ready to go whenever.

>>1005243

>Fort Worth
Nah this is in Leafland.

>>1005246
only reason i dont have $25 is because i have to lend someone fucking $250 so they dont get kicked out on thir ass

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>>1005250

>lend money
>ever
You're not gonna get your money back just so you know.

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Today's haul from the Aqueduct outside of Taft CA.

By the way have any of you have or have used a digital chip bait caster? I ordered one off Amazon for around $400 that ships from Japan, the videos I've seen made it look pretty cool so I thought I'd check it out.

>>1005246
What kind of music are you tryna play?

Also, I'm good for the secret Santa whenever, but I probably won't order the stuff until Friday if you do it before then.

>>1005249
Ah okay. Just sounded kind of similar.

>>1005286
>a digital chip bait caster
That's cheating.

But in all seriousness I'm sure they're pretty dope. Do they run off of batteries? I assume they still work if the battery dies?

>>1005290
Nah they don't take batteries the reel itself charges when you cast or reel in. My Japanese isn't that good. It's Shimano brand though.

>>1005286
>$400
>$400
>$ 4 0 0

It had better suck your dick while fish.

>>1005306
Nah bruh, can't fish with Walmart gear. Don't want to be associated with the wetbacks and brothas out there trying to fish.

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>>1005312
post pics of the reel when you get it

>>1005321
For sure, I'm gonna hook it up on my Korean rod.

>>1005312
Instead you have the equivalent of...

>Hi Billy Maze here with a great new gadget
>Do you like fishing but can not cast for shit
>retardthrowingrodintowater.webm
>Then do I have the thing for you

>>1005246
I might hop in. Probably will. I'm just worried I'm not knowledgeable enough to get the person anything useful. Dicks has a 25$ free shipping minimum so that's ez pz

>>1005333
Kek. Trips confirms

>>1005145
3 whole oranges?
Anon you mad man

>>1005333
Sounds good to me! If it works I'm gonna use the shit out of it. Not like I won't have my other rods set up or anything. I'm just new to bait casting and have a cheap bait caster at the moment. But seriously though, it gets pretty damn windy out here and if it helps not fuck up my line or birdsnest to hell I'm game. If it sucks, then oh well. I mean you gotta put money into your hobby.

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Its been a sad weekend in the midwest

>>1005184
LEE KEE KUM is a good brand, have you tried their chili oil? Pretty good with dumplings or mixed in with some sweet chili sauce

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Can anyone confirm or deny that this is a Portogese Man O War?

>>1005301
That's pretty cool. I'd like to get one eventually.

>>1005347
sure does look like one

Noob here, went fishing with my dad as a kid but haven't done any in a while. What's better, bait or lure?

>>1005370
Depends, catfishing or bass fishing?
Freshwater or saltwater?
Night time or day time?

In general lures will be better just because they don't need to be refrigerated, don't go bad, can cover more water on slow days but live bait will almost always produce more fish if all you're going for is to have a good time.

Try catching some catfish or something if you wanna chill, probably one of the easiest things you could do. Tie up a carolina rig, get some chicken liver, and hit a lake.

>>1004978

That's a Shellcracker. One of the larger panfish. It usually eats snails, crawfish, mussels and the like.

>>1005370

I usually use live bait caught whereever I'm fishing. I also toss a lure every now and then. Either a plug, spoon, or gulp.

I mostly target catfish, bigger bass, and crappie in freshwater and speckled trout, drum, sheepshead, and shark in saltwater.

For me, it's all about the fight at the end of the line. I'd rather catch 1 bigger fish than a dozen undersized ones.

>>1005247
What? It doesn't matter if you have an odd amount of people. Somebody mentioned this last time and I don't understand it.

>people A, B, and C do an exchange
>A shops for B
>B shops for C
>C shops for A
>3 people... nobody is left out

>>1005290
K-Pop

And I'll probably pick names the middle of this week then.

>>1005334
It doesn't matter, you will figure it out.

I don't want to go to work. Fuck Mondays.

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>>1005428
>people A, B, and C do an exchange
>A shops for B
>B shops for C
>C shops for A
>3 people... nobody is left out

>pic related is me

>>1005250
>>1005264
Yeah guy, sorry about your loss.

>>1005286
>>1005306
>>1005333
Kek, zuriss is so right though. If you have a hard time casting into the wind you should just use a spinning reel. Theres no way I would pick up my memecaster if there was a heavy headwind.

>>1005428
I have not slept in 48ish hours and I have 10 hours on the factory floor starting in 2 hours.

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>>1005439
So I just went into the garage to make sure that my little rabbit had food and water still.

Something disemboweled it last night.

>>1005444
Trips confirms chupacabra or Zuriss had a really bad meth binge.

>>1005432
Is that a dindu fish?

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>asians- sustenance fishermen that eat everything in the ocean but at least they're often very skilled and keep to themselves
>mexicans- most aren't very skilled but at least they catch fish
>whites- mix of recreational and sustenance fishermen that are usually skilled, own good gear and are willing to help out others
>blacks- usually are very unskilled, own Walmart gear and like to steal fish from people's coolers and start fights with other fishermen

Can we ban blacks from fishing piers?

>>1005515
>poaching and overfishing is okay

Nah

>>1005191
I got that one from YouTube catch and cooks man. But it's traditional Asian basically.

>>1005515
Ban all of them, and white kids under age 15. White people normally watch their kids tho, it's the minority kids running around unsupervised about to step on your rod and knock over your bait bucket.

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>>1005515
>>1005529
You guys struggle with minority's I struggle with pretentious rich fags who through a fit and cry like little kids when someone fishes on the same river 300 feet down stream. Yesterday me and my buddy are trolling up river to get to a point and then we were gunna drift back down hitting the banks and when we got to the point where we were gunna stop 4 faggots wading up river for what I assume was for steelhead started walking towards us and using binoculars to see what we are doing. After we didn't back off they came over and started yelling at us for nothing. We were in too deep of water for them to get us in waders so we just yelled dumb shit back at them and they called someone left. Second time I've had to deal with those fucking faggots. I'm not even fishing for the same species and they still cry

>>1005515
how would blacks fish then? seeing one on the water is almost as rare as a unicorn sighting.

every year when the walleye run up the detroit river to spawn, theres 5000 boats in the river fishing for walleye and niggers lining the shore/piers.

to be fair though, i think they're fishing for suckers as they just have a line casted out into the water sitting there

>>1005538
I'm gonna have to agree with this. The white guys wearing Huk™ fishing camo and 1k Van Staal™/G Loomis™ combos are the most obnoxious people on the pier.

>soaking a dead sardine for snook
>douchebag live lines a greenie literally within inches of my sardine
>the greenie swims around and gets tangled with my line
>guys starts screaming at me and says "it's common fucking sense" to not fish near people live lining
>tell him I was there first and you casted over me
>calls me a faggot and moves to the other side of the pier

>>1005370
Dead bait is more boring and is 50/50 even with productivity with lure depend on species. Species that lures are better on are usually aggressive predators that hit hard and fight well though.

Live bait is almost always more productive than lure and always more productive than dead bait. However, live bait is a hassle to acquire and maintain, especially salt water live bait that can't be kept alive for long term easily.

>>1005566
Really depends on the fish though. For example, sometimes snook get really lazy and they don't want to chase a live greenie but the second you kill it and drop it in the same exact spot they'll smash it.

>>1005610
I feel like if you just catch a live bait and then put it on a hook, they gonna get lethargic real fast anyway and tempt those lazy fishes either way. Maybe that's the case for bait fishes in my area at least. Guess they are more fragile.

>>1005552
>Van Staal™
>on the pier.
Jesus christ I bet they don't dunk their reels or surfcast

>Look up Van Staal
>All reels $400+
Why would someone spend so much on a reel?

>>1005642
It's a well built reel for surf fishing and can be dunked in saltwater or get sand in and it'll still work.

i tried an abu garcia reel at the store yesterday and it was way smoother than my pfleuger

wtf?

>>1005654
I've heard they fuck witht he drag in store to make them all seem smoother. Might have been that or maybe it was actually smoother.

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>>1005642
vs's a nice reels but aero technium mgs xtb is a lighter and further casting reel if you're looking for a lifetime surf reel

>>1005662
it was a cheap combo rod... dafuq

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>>1005654
>pfleuger

maybe thats why....

>>1005670
That's a strange looking dog

>>1005654
Should have just went with the Shimano™, Smdhf

>>1005670
is pflueger bad or something...

oh wait i think it's because the pflueger has a higher gear ratio

>>1005654
its literally all the same shit

>>1005739
yeah but maybe something is wrong with my reel

>>1005654
Stop being poor and buy it. They're For Life™

>>1005739
Nah

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>>1005665
>aero technium mgs xtb
>S H I M A N O
no just no

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UGH I just want to go fishing

>>1005673
They are ok if you are on a tight budget and still need to buy Newports an Old English.

>>1005784
go out and make it rain fish, anon

we believe in you.

>>1005792
the only spots around my house i can fish have really steep banks

i'll fall into the river

>>1005795
Even better, grab a fish's wife and fuck her in front of them claim dominace in the river

>>1005642
>why
drop it in the sand, dunk it in the surf to clean it. Don't have one but know peeps that do and they're beasts.

>>1005803
>Leaf
>Claim dominance

We are going to need pics with time stamps if anyone is ever going to believe.

anybody familiar with the conasauga river? plan on fishing it tomorrow but i've never caught anything from it.. know others have had some luck with catfish and bass, i'm just not sure what i should go for. fairly new to fishing other than just wetting line as a kid.

any tips on what kinda lures work best in murky shallow(for a river) water would be appreciated

u midwest fags better get out there and get your free lures that washed on shore

>>1005831
Probably loud stuff like spinnerbaits. If you're using soft plastics go for dark colors. You want something loud, flashy, or that will otherwise stand out.

https://youtu.be/nS47kLWQxWI

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>>1005896
no

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First rock bass today. Also first cast got a trout.

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>>1005922
anadromous

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>>1005923
What a fine breast

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>>1005913
Yes

>>1005515
>>1005529
>>1005538

All my experiences pier fishing the Texas coast have been awesome. My first time out when all I had was youtube as a guide, some young Mexican guys gave me tips, tackle, and even shared their beer. We fished all night long.

I also learned to shark fish from some old guys who barely spoke english. Their kid translated between us.

Most of the time I encounter old black/white/Mexican guys who are all chill. We share stories and tips. Asian folks tend to stay quiet but I never have any issues

And Ive never seen a fight.

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I fish every day during my lunch break and I suggest you all start. Pic related was my first line check break fish. Tiny little guy and still incredibly satisfying and a great way to get ready for the second half of the work day.

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>>1005962

First lunch break fish* that is, not line break.

Here's another.

Pretty much just one per day is the average at the pond near work. Since ai fly fish it's also just a great time to practice casting a various other things (for example getting very efficient with knots as I only have a limited time to change fly's, tie tippet on, etc.) too.

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>>1005965

This was Fridays. Or maybe Thursdays, I forget.

inland trout opener in WI coming up, usually fish a big stream up north for lunker brownies, but the water is too damn high. Gonna hit some trout lakes that are close together for 'bows and brookies. Slip bobbers and half a crawler should do the trick. Really like live bait for walleyes and cats on the Wisconsin River, but if they're snappin will switch to lures for some size. Remember small bait will usually catch small fish.

why can't i catch anything :(

>>1005975
what kind of water is around you, what do want to catch?

>>1005977
a big river that's pretty murky,i think it's not too deep (at least as far as i can cast it out)

fish (some other guy caught a huge musky there)

>>1005984
Spots on a river mean a lot. Depth is the key thing.
A good thing to look out for are dams/waterfalls. Fish end up at that point and often chill out around them.
Also depends how big this river is. Something like 40 yards wide or something like a river before it empties into a bay?

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>>1005989
I've tried along the red part but I haven't caught anything yet

I wanna try the rapids or the canals in the city maybe it'll be better

>>1005984
Rig a crawler, leech, or minnow along the bottom with a slip sinker rig. An easy one to make is too take a 1/2 oz bell or lindy sinker, string it on your line, then tie a #6 or #8 aberdeen hook on. Then attach a split shot about a foot from the hook to catch the big sinker. Cast and set the pole on a forked stick and reel in so it's just tight. When you get a strike your tip will bounce back and forth. Push your rod tip towards the strike then set hook. You'll catch whatever is in that river with some practice. Move around and try different spots, and eventually try different rigs, baits, line weights, rods, etch. Good luck

>>1005993
oops forgot to include the scale

probably 200 yards across at the red line

>>1006003
lulz

>>1004997
it's a shell cracker.

crappie and sunfish can't hybridize you retarded mongoloids.

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>>1006015
tell that to a really horny crappie

>>1006015
truth

Has /out/ ever seen this website?

http://www.tenkarabum.com/

It's pretty interesting

>>1005923
Just realized these guys aren't migrators, just like brackish water + the rivers that feed them

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>>1006030
lots of fish are like that. now where do they go when it rains a lot and the salinity levels lower?

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I'm a saltwater fishing guy now. There are so many crazy fish out here. First cast and I catch a pampano. After that I caught a puffer fish, a dozen shitty catfish, and a couple sting rays. Screw freshwater

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>>1006120
>grow up minutes from ocean
>freshwaters foreign to me
>read in internets about da freshwater
>buy lots freshwater gears
>japanese people scheming
>fish many freshwaters
>fish fight less hard
>realise like salt fishing better
>talk story with father
>he laugh show me tattoo
>jumping lmb
>we both laugh

>>1006096
I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.

>>1006176
this is my problem. I have family in florida so i fish out on the ocean once a year or so for a few days. a 12" ladyfish will fight harder than any bass i've ever caught. a 24" grouper will fight harder than pretty much anything freshwater.

I have a hard time getting excited for fishing anything other than salmon/steelhead or lake trout if jigging with light rods anymore. the only reason i go fish panfish and walleye anymore is because theyre great eating.

>>1006240

Same here. I hooked my first really nice sized blue catfish about 10 years ago and now I almost exclusively target catfish.

I catch bluegill to use as catfish bait and crappie for eating. I often hook big bass while fishing live bluegill for catfish and smaller ones when targeting crappie but I always throw them back.

Then I went saltwater fishing and holy-shit. The other year it dawned on me that the coast is only 2-3 hours away. I can drive down, pitch a tent, fish all night, and drive back.

And saltwater fish taste better than freshwater too.

And that's what I've been doing about once or twice a month for the past couple years.

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>>1006240
>ladyfish fighting hard

Wait until you catch a jack crevalle. These things pull so fucking hard

>>1006176
Meh most saltwater fish fight kind of boring*. Sure they pull more drag, but if they just pull drag straight away from you it gets old.

That's why I'd rather catch specks than reds, but I wouldn't complain about either. I personally would rather catch a fish that shakes it's head and jumps than something that just heads the bottom and pulls drag.

That being said I really enjoy fishing saltwater and wished I lived closer to the coast. I absolitely love the ocean and get awestruck every time I see it, but I don't think I would ever give up the green fish.

>*In the gulf, I don't know if most would be the correct on other coast


Since we're on the topic, best surf rod/reel combo for $150-200? it doesn't have to be an actual combo, I just want recommendations on a reel (and size) and a rod.

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>>1006261
>I personally would rather catch a fish that shakes it's head and jumps than something that just heads the bottom and pulls drag.

Snook is what you want. They pull drag and they do tons of jumps and head shakes. It's pretty much a really powerful saltwater bass.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mip5zg3agc

>>1006240
>the only reason i go fish panfish and walleye anymore is because theyre great eating.

This sounds terrible. I usually bring a rod for sun fish just because they're fun.

>>1006264
Snook is 100% on the bucket list. We have a really small fishery here and I'm gonna try to get one this summer.

I was planning on going to Florida for a tarpon charter and while I was there I was going to target snook too. I don't know if I'll be able to make it work this year though.

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>>1006216
wear tighter panties and wash the sand off your vagina.. pic related. its a grill

>>1006261
daiwa bg 3000

>>1006313
Only a 3k size?

>>1006261

>most saltwater fish are kind of boring

Saltwater fish that give a good show
>speckled trout
>ladyfish
>tarpon
>snook
>some shark species
>many others

freshwater species that jump and give a good show:

>bass
>...?

>>1006261
>>Meh most saltwater fish fight kind of boring*. Sure they pull more drag, but if they just pull drag straight away from you it gets old.

Screaming drag is one of my favorite sounds in the whole world. I also love that feel of not knowing what's at the end of the line until you get it to the surface.

>>1006306
>>Snook is 100% on the bucket list. We have a really small fishery here and I'm gonna try to get one this summer.

Same here. Where would you target snook in Texas that's north of South Padre?

>>1006356
I guess I should've been more specific and said fish generally taken on tackle comparable to bass fishing, but I definitely won't deny there are more species of of fish that put on a show in saltwater. My main point was it doesn't matter if I'm catching bass or specks to me. I'll have a lot of fun either way, and that I'd rather catch a bass than a big saltwater fish that just pulls drag.

The exception are reds. They remind me a lot of how carp fight, but catching tailing reds is hella fun.

>ladyfish
Are those the ones that are always jumping out of the water? Can you catch those on artificials? I didn't have any luck with a shrimp plastic or little swimbait and I saw a whole bunch of them last time I was down.


>>1006361
iirc they're in the Lower Laguna Madre around South Padre Island. So basically Mexico lol.

>>1006386
>Are those the ones that are always jumping out of the water? Can you catch those on artificials? I didn't have any luck with a shrimp plastic or little swimbait and I saw a whole bunch of them last time I was down.

They're basically mini tarpon. I catch them with shrimp, mullet, and gulp under a popping cork. Mostly by accident when targeting reds and specks.

>>1006370
>Screaming drag is one of my favorite sounds in the whole world.
I feel ya. Sometimes I do get the urge to hook into something that just peels drag for awhile.

>I also love that feel of not knowing what's at the end of the line until you get it to the surface.
If there's one thing the ocean has freshwater beat by a huge margin it's this. I think that's my main appeal to the ocean honestly. There's so much shit out there.

>snook
I don't think there's any real population of them north of south padre. I could very well be wrong though.

>>1006389
Dope. Im definitely gonna try to get a few when I'm at the coast again.

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>>1006389
Many people here call them poor man's tarpon. They're super fun on light tackle but will throw the hook if you don't get a solid good hookset. I loose a lot of them when using hard lures with trebles, I've found DOA CAL's on a jig head with a 2/0 or 3/0 hook to work great.

>>1005246
I sent you my shit fag

>>1006386
>The exception are reds. They remind me a lot of how carp fight
Maybe quit catching rat reds on 40# braid and a heavy rod or actually catch a redfish for once because they are absolutely nothing like carp.

>>1006434
I use a medium rod and 2k spinning reel. All they do is run to the bottom like carp, but a lot harder lmao

I don't browse the fishing threads because I don't fish, but I do want a new hobby, I like getting up early, hiking at camping. So why not fishing?

I'm glad I'm anonymous so there's no chance a faux pas will follow me, so tell me about the bow sling method? Looks pretty cool, but you can only take big mfs with it?

>>1006451
>bow sling method

Spear fishing?

>>1006451

Most states only allow you to take game fish via hook and line. Shooting a bass or catfish with a bow would be illegal, for instance.

Instead, most bow anglers target non-game fish, particularly carp and gar. They're slower, can often be seen in shallow water or near the surface, and are a bit more difficult to take by hook/line unless you're using more specialized tackle/techniques.

>>1006455
>>Spear fishing?

Similar, only it fires arrows through the air instead of spears through the water. I imagine he wants it for the compactness.

>>1006458
Ah OK I see. It would be for compactness, and rule of cool to be honest. I might just invest in a solid pocket fisher in that case, just to get my feet wet (no pun intended).

Or brush up on my local non game fish, thanks

>>1006462

Pocketfisherman suck. If you want compact/minimalist, just get some line, a hook, and a stick thick enough to wrap the line around so it doesn't slice your hand open.

They also make collapsible poles, but those are pretty crappy and always find a way to mess themselves up too.

Or just get an ultralight rig. Really small, light and easy to transport.

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>>1004942
How well do lizards work post-spawn? Are they even worth using over worms and craws?

>>1006478
Yes

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>>1006451
>so tell me about the bow sling method?
>bow sling method

nigga u wot m8?

yu can shot anythang yu wan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7yleXlJno

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I havent been skunked in a while... normally its something im used to but now that was strange. Ill be needing a new reel, let me explain what's going on with my current one.
So first of all the bail spring is broken, no problem to me anymore since im ok with manually flipping the bail.
But now the line gets stuck in between the rims of what im pointing at in the picture (not the same reel)
I dont know what causes it but I know that it makes the line all bent up if you reel through it.

A friend recommends a Daiwa BG reel.

>>1006518
>But now the line gets stuck in between the rims of what im pointing at in the picture (not the same reel)

That part is damaged. With a small screwdriver, you can likely swap out the part.

What do you all think of Chuck and Debb's? Some local angler told me about it.
Speaking of, i have 100 jig hooks coming my way... I could squeeze a split shot on them, is super glue necessary?

>>1006526
Why would you do that? Just order a do it mold and pour melted lead on. Works way better and is cheaper. Or just use a pegged bullet weight.

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>>1004942
Can I catch sneks on braid, or do I need some sort of teeth-proof leader?

>>1006544
Depends what you catch them on. Their teeth aren't as bad as gar or anything, especially smaller ones. Plus I'm always catching them on inline spinners so the line isn't even near their teeth really. If in doubt, just use a flouro leader.

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>>1006526
>is super glue necessary
no its not necessary..on the tabbed type I like to grind off the tabs to make it look cleaner. a drop or two of epoxy and rotated makes them look store bought.

>>1006313
Those big brown things are essentially the fish's balls m8. Definitely not a grill fish my dude.

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>>1006571
Any trout fisherman here

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>>1006567
Nah bro those are the lungs

>>1006573
Sort of. So far its my most praised fish next to smallies. I appreciate rivers over lakes any day.

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>>1006577
I haven't fished for trout in a stream yet. All I have in my area is lakes but I plan to do a lot of Grayling fishing this summer.

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I like tying rigs. I'm going to see if I can sell a few, but I'll use them for flounder and pier fishies if I can't.

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>>1006574
>those are the lungs

>>1006447
I really don't think you catch many reds at all, to even compare it to a carp proves my point

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>>1006586
go for it, you should sell some. purchase some legit packaging for cheap and use good quality leader, hooks and swivels. get some cards printed, get the word out through social networking and go around to tackle shops.
Its not that hard.

Any of you guys located around the Chicago area? Specifically the Cook county/Duapege County burbs?

I've been slaying the LM despite this shitty weather.

>>1006370
>Screaming drag is one of my favorite sounds in the whole world. I also love that feel of not knowing what's at the end of the line until you get it to the surface.
Nailed it. This 1000X

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>>1006595
Please explain to me the differences in how the fish fight

>>1006386
>'d rather catch a bass than a big saltwater fish that just pulls drag

Sharks, rays and kingfish do that. Just about every other decently sized saltwater predator puts on a really good show. Look at this fucking bluefish man

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8cQveq7E-I

>>1006464

Just get a tenkara rod if you are trying to go super minimal matey.

>>1006618
Carps have a quick burst of energy, but once that quick burst is gone it's just pulling in dead weight.
Reds fight till you get them in the net, they constantly have a lot of head shake trying to throw the hook, I've had and saw them jumping out of the water before, and it's a lot harder to catch one than putting out some corn, etc.

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Anybody try Mystery Tackle Box? I've done Lucky Tackle Box for a few months. Started out ok but then they just started sending me fucking swimbaits, circle hooks, and weird ass creature baits.

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>>1006620
Damn that's cool. I think I've read they're on the Texas coast, but very sparse.

We don't really have a whole lot of fishes to catch, so I'm definitely biased. Almost everybody I've talked to pretty much targets reds, specks, or sharks, so when I think Texas saltwater that's what I think of.

Talking about saltwater in general though I won't argue there's more fish than not that put on amazing shows.

>>1006638
>Carps have a quick burst of energy, but once that quick burst is gone it's just pulling in dead weight. Reds fight till you get them in the net

So they fight a lot harder... Like I said

>they constantly have a lot of head shake trying to throw the hook

I've never felt any head shakes, at least not any like a bass or trout.

>I've had and saw them jumping out of the water before

I don't doubt that this is possible, but I've had carp come out of the water.

>and it's a lot harder to catch one than putting out some corn, etc.

Not really related to the fight.

I never said reds fight the same as carp, but the way they fight is similar imo. In fact the first thing I thought when I hooked into for the first time was something along the lines of "this is a lot like fighting a carp on an UL"

That is the biggest red I've caught though so the bigger ones very well could shake their heads more.

>>1006646
It's gonna be about the same

>>1006646
It's a fucking scam. They give you bargain bin junk mixed in with one good lure.

>>1006604
Might be worth a shot

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who /wackyworm/ here?

>>1006615

usually up in busse. still havent hit up mallard this year but plan to go soon.

>>1006216
Why did you have to murder the younglings?

>>1006649
Use the -$10 promo code to make a box $5 and its worth it. Just remember not to sign up for a multi-month subscription.

Good reel around 50$?
I hear shimano sedona is good but good reputation on diawas

>>1006660
Spend 30 more and get a Sahara. Thank me later.

>>1006658
Why not sign up for the multi-month subscription?

>>1006666
Explain? I'm all for just reliability and long lasting.

>>1006675
Then you're paying ~14$ for a box of random lures (often bargain bin) after that month. Again, it's only worth paying $5 for it all. You don't get much.

>>1006660
Sahara go on sale for 50$. Get one then.

>>1006677
The Sahara has a true sealed drag and better drag disks and gears. No plastic worm gear or cheap bearings.

Minimum anyone should spend on a reel is 70 bucks in my opinion. At 70 to 100 dollars you get into stuff that will last for years of twice a month hard fishing unless you get a lemon and dunk your shit in salt water and never clean or service it.

>>1006681
This is the same reason why you should buy a pflueger president XT model over the regular president. It's 80 bucks instead of 50 and has a sealed drag and carbon fiber handle plus better cosmetic colors.

>>1006681
Theres nothing wrong with cheap reals and $70 for a spinning reel is definitely on the high end of reels. The majority of reels in the 30-40 dollar range are perfectly fine and will last years if you take care of them.

>>1006646
it's okay if you're starting out and don't have much of anything

>>1005286
[spoiler]How the fuck do you do well in the Cali Aqueduct?[/spoiler]

[spoiler]And don't say anchovies, because that only worked out once for me, and all the other times the fucking bait would get lost in the current or shit would get tangled in weeds[/spoiler]

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>>1006638
>he trolls deep. I agree with you.

>>1006684
>$70 for a spinning reel is definitely on the high end of reels

no it is not

>>1006701
>ate the bait
>in prison in the city he was fishing.
>mfw

>>1006684
70 dollars is high end? HA

No dude, 300 and up is high end. True high end gets near 1000 dollars like the shimano stella and such.

70 bucks gets you middle of the road reels that actually fucking work and don't have to be replaced every 6 months from light fishing.

>>1006725
70 Is high end, anything over that is very high and then you're either sponsored or stupid

>>1006730
You're a fucking retard. You must be 16 and make 8 dollars an hour. Guess everyone who buys a handgun should get a hi point huh? Any gun over 200 dollars is just a waste.

Literally kill yourself.

Please go grab a an Abu Garcia sliver max and then a Shimano metanium at the store and tell me there is no objective difference. Or grab an Abu revo rocket spinning reel and compare it to a sienna. Or a Stella to either of those.

If you really think they don't cost more for a reason all you probably do is float baby night crawlers under a red and white bobber with a zebco button reel and talk about smoking blunts with your nigger friends and then go home and deep fry the one 2 lb channel catfish you caught with the skin still on.

Whats your favorite knot? I started using the palomar knot for everything, then I changed it for the trilene and now I am using the fish n fool knot. Very easy to tie and much more strong than the others.

Do you use a different knot for your swivels or use the same as the one for the hook?

>>1006730
70 is like mid for spinning reels and lower mid for memecasters. I guess only thing with spinning reels is that they almost all have essentially the same design so a more expensive spinning reel won't cast any farther like a better memecaster but it will probably be lighter and have smoother drag.

>>1006615
I keep tellin you fags to look for the little ones in residential and commercial areas. I like those little lakes by the Westin hotel on Devon and Thorndale just east of 53.

>>1006588

Fish have lungs. Gills filter oxygen from the water and that oxygen goes to lungs.

>>1006620

I was lucky enough to get in some bluefish and mackerel fishing while in NC.

Good change of pace from reds and specks in the gulf.

>>1006734
>>1006776
70 is high range for spinning, ahead of that is very high and "you're retarded or sponsored".

Theres really not much difference like you said, mid range spinning reels cast as well and last almost as long (maybe longer due to heavier parts) as more expensive reels.

>>1006681

My 15 dollar shimano reels lasted a couplr years of bimonthly saltwater fishing trips. I learned how to take better care of my gear after saltwater fishing, but those reels served me damn well considering the price.

>>1006725

I've only had one reel under 70 bucks crap out after 6 months. It just literally came apart one day when I got a snag.

Otherwise, all my 10 to 40 dollar reels have lasted years to decades.

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>>1006573
Yep

>>1006777
get

>>1006573

I catch stocked trout in a park pond every winter, heh. The only way they survive around here.

I fucking hate cold weather (even the mild Texaa winter) and those trout are the only things that'll teally get me out when the temp drops below 45.

I wouldn't mind fishing for wild trout further up north if I'm ever in the area though.

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>>1004942
All my grubs are either chartreuse, white, or pink.

What subtle color should I get?

Opinions on Daiwa Revros reel? Theres a sale on a combo too, basically pay for the reel and get the rod for free.

>>1006848
A brownish orange has done me well.
Maybe a dark yellow too.
Im probably overthinking it but they do match the color of the river's rocks and other brownish bait fish.

>>1006848
W A T E R M E L O N

>>1006775
improved clinch lately especially with flouro. polomar with braid if i dont waste too much line doing it
>>1006776
will check out. you ever river fish out here? im hunting my first smallie
>>1006615
where do you like to hit up anon?
>>1006651
ive never caught anything wacky rigged so its a meme to me

Fairly new angler here. Will using a swivel effect my results? I always used one growing up fishing with family so that we didn't have to tie a new knot every time we wanted to switch lures. I'm wondering now if it effects the way a lure is reeled in though or if it could stop a fish from going for something.

Pepsi pick the fuckin names already brah

>>1006869

It does affect the way the lure acts in the water. By how much depends on the lure. It's basically luke adding extra weight to the end of the line, right before the hook.

I don't do a whole lot of lure fishing, but I usually have a couple feet of mono or flouro line tied to my braided main line so I can easily bite off and retie tackle, and that includes the occasional lure.

>>1006870
You want me to do it this afternoon?

I think we have this so far:
>Pepsi
>Anon Jack
>Anon Lucas
>TXfag
>Redington Anon
>Zuriss

I think Zuriss is still in, right? And Hatch is a poorfag and backed out so we should all make fun of him.


>captcha: christmas trees

>>1006872
Damn, alright. Thanks.

>>1006875
I am in.

>>1006573
what do you want to know about trout senpai?

>>1006875
have to cover the rest of a buddys rent because shes a retard who cant handle money, though i am getting it paid back and im getting some so i guess its okay

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>>1006776
I don't own a boat and am only a 21 year old student so yeah residential ponds and forest preserve lakes are kind of my thing... Are you in the area?
>>1006868

Suburban ponds. Forest preserves are the Des Plaines River. I'm trying to get into river fishing for Pike but i'm always paranoid I'll get snagged and honestly have no idea how to fish a river for Pike. Also I'm gonna hit up Pratt Wayne's this weekend and see about some catfish...

>>1006848
Get some yellow ones.

>>1006869
You're probably fine. I use a swivel on everything and it only affects my light jerkbaits and one specific inline spinner

>>1006875
Do it as soon as possible so I can get my shit on my home today

The shimano Sahara FE is on sale at dicks for 50-60$. Should I grab one? Would a 2500 size be alright for a 6'6 medium rod? I'm shit with sizing these things

>>1006918
2500 will fit that perfect

>>1006895
>paid back
Keep telling yourself back. When you get a little older, you will learn to never lend ANYTHING unless you are 100% ok with never seeing it again

>like that brown and pink Mepps Agila #4 that is now stuck on an alligator

>>1006913
Yeah when I get home from work this afternoon and get settled in, I will do it and send the emails

>>1006909
Yeah, I'll give it a try but if they're not biting then I'll take it off. What spinner is it out of curiosity? We're going trout fishing today and that's a lot of what we were planning on using.

Anyone have any good fishing podcasts they'd recommend?

>>1006925
They have a decent job and are trustworthy enough , and have lent me money in the past
Not too worried about it

Worst case scenario I'm out a bit of money from helping a good friend

>>1006956
The Lebatard Show

Gonna draw names around 4:00 or 5:00 family...

>>1006951
I use size 6 or 8 swivels made by eagle claw in bronze, basically whatever's cheapest and not huge

>>1006848
Yum carolina pumpkin grub is the best grub there is.

>>1006951
Oh lmao I'm retarded you said spinner not swivel. The spinner is a luhr Jensen Shyster 1/8th oz. it just doesn't seem to spin freely and I think it's because they designed it with a special "keel like" loop to tie the line to and the swivel interfered with it. Every other spinner works fine, rooster tails mepps etc.

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>spend like 200$ last year to get into fishing
>caught nothing
>got butt hurt and stopped

it's now a year later, and may in NE Ohio, cool 54F and rained yesterday, can I fish?

>>1007054
In my experience its going to be slow and the fish are going to be deeper.

>>1007054
>>spend like 200$ last year to get into fishing

Who got to you?

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You goys ready?!?

>>1006899
I lived up there for 23 years. That one I mentioned off Devon was always straight. There is one more good one in Rolling Meadows, probably the best little bass pond I have ever fished but it's easy to get kicked out of (or it was). Algonquin Rd (Rt.62) a little east of 53, there's an apartment complex there and it's a stoplight called Carriage Way Drive. Turn on that street and go all the way down and there's a pond back there which was always just constant 2lb largemouth.

>>1007054
what were you fishing for?

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>>1007054
>tfw I've been using a $70 Lew combo reel/rod for trying past 5 years
>tfw I've been using 50 for $10 off brand senkos
>tfw I've been fishing in a lake adjacent to my parents neighborhood in a old John boat
>Tfw I've caught hundreds of largemouths and panfish

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Emails are sent

how do i fix wind knots in my braid ;;

>>1007150
Don't get them.

Also, try and pull them tighter and see if they pop out. But I have never had an issue with that even though it's always fucking windy here. I think it's because I try and keep some tension on my line the whole time.

Also TXfag, I sent u an email.

>>1007130

My $15 dollar shimano IX 4000 and $15 shimano fx rods have lasted me nearly a decade. I catch everything from panfish to bull drum on them.

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>>1007150
let your line out behind a moving boat leave it for a minute. reel it back in. wind knots are gone.

>>1007157
i dont have a boat should i just use pliers on both ends to try to pull it out

maybe with a bit of vaseline or something?

>>1007158
no, dont yank on it. If you pull gently and the knot doesn't release you need to pick at it until you can pull it apart. Just take it and pull at it with your teeth trying to get it loosened up, if you can't do it just cut your line. Depending on how much line you'll lose you can tie the 2 pieces together or respool it to where the knot will be at the bottom of your spool.

>>1007155
Do you fish 80 to 120 days a year? No. Exactly.

Do fish scream drag on you? No. Exactly.

Do you surf fish wading in water? No exactly.

I'm tired of all these retards touting their 50 dollar Shakespeare setup that lasts years and years. They are out right lies.

Even 700 dollar Van Stall spinning reels need to be rebuilt occasionally.

This is worse than people shilling China special kast king trash. That stuff is okay for people who charter retards that don't know how to fish and drop and knock rods around or step on them.

If you really love the sport and fish hard and enjoy a smooth responsive drag there is no reason to not drop 200 to 500 per rod and reel. This is the only life long hobby I have had so it matters to me.

I don't make fun or talk shit to people who buy a 20 thousand dollar sport bike and say "brah my Honda rebel scooter was 1500 bucks and it's lasted years man it does the same thing". I don't own a scooter but you get the point. You can spend 100 bucks on a heavy backpack and still backpack or you can build an ultralight kit and not destroy your knees but you have to spend 1200 fucking dollars. Guess what retard. The ultralight guy is going to have more fun and be more comfortable the same way the guy with a nice dobyns rod and Shimano reel will compared to your 90 pound ugly stick and zebco reel.

All of you poor fags need to shut the fuck up. Even if you make minimum wage you can save up and stop buying weed and booze a few times a month and treat yourself to a nice 100 dollar reel and 100 dollar rod once a year. Jesus.

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>>1007163
Are you talkin shit about scooters?

>>1007130
>>1007155
>>1007054
Not him $200 is not that big of a deal if it's the total amount. It's bad to spend that much right away before catching any fishes at all, but after you fish for a while, it's easily add up to that much.

Rod and reel is not everything. lures, lines, terminal tackle, baits, fishing license can easily add up to that. Replacing those stuffs due to loss or malfunction stuffs add up as well. I have 2 set up that I bought from craiglist. Each probably cost around $60 - 80. I have various of lures but 2 of them of them have particular expensive price of $18 but they work too well to pass. Of course different lines and different type of terminal tackle add up quickly as well. I try not to spend too much but a lot of times I cheap out I end up with really shit stuffs I don't use or shit that need replacement too frequently and add up anyway.

You can limit yourself and fish specific way to make the cost lowest possible, but then it's not as enjoyable or not as productive.

>>1004942

Does anybody here know how to fish in murky water?

I'm stationed in Louisiana, and every body of water here is stained shit brown to the point where you can't see 6 inches below the surface. The only way I've caught fish is to use smelly bait, which only helps me catch catfish, and sometimes bluegill. But bass, crappie, gar, stripers I don't even know how to tackle it, since most lures are meant to be seen from a distance.

>>1007163
Calm down, the comments were in response to a novice who didn't need to drop $200 if he wanted to fish. Like all hobby industries, the tackle industry relies on getting anglers to buy more shit then they don't need.

Nobody cares if you wear full PFGs, have a $1000 custom reel and a rod that can pull in a scuba diver, stop projecting.

>>1007174
i think you have to use noisy baits that displace a lot of water so the fish can feel where it is

>>1007175
>stop projecting
>responds again justifying that slightly more expensive reels are stupid show pieces because he is poor and can't save a few bucks

I fish in a cotton t shirt and wrangler jeans with a 400 dollar setup. Does that make you ass mad? I spend money on fishing because it's important to me. Stay mad kid.

>>1006356

>Freshwater fish that jump and give a good show:

>Largemouth bass
>smallmouth bass (fight way harder than largies)
>Northern pike
>Muskie
>Trout
>Salmon
>Most carp species
>Sturgeon
>Snakehead...I mean bowfin
>Alligator gar

Fixed

>>1007182
>assblasted over being told a $50 reel performs perfectly fine for most peoples needs

>>1007186
True, but in the vast majority of freshwater all you will catch are bass and panfish with the occasional pike.

>>1007133
>tfw choosing tackle box shit is harder than I thought

Finding that balance between useful and unique is hard.

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>>1007054
This was a mistake

>>1007165
No but if you told someone a fucking scooter is going to the same thing a dirt bike will I would call you a retard the same way these guys are saying a button zebco reel or 15 dollar spinning reel with soft plastic gears and no sealed drag is going to last year's are retarded.

It's outrageous.

Someone just getting onto fishing is going to be way happier in 6 months to a year with a 200 dollar rig than a 50 dollar one. Everyone who takes it remotely seriously upgrades in a year after spending 50 to 100 bucks on trash reels and rods that end up with problems. Replace your drag washers? 10 bucks gone. Line snag and get cut because of a frozen drag? 10 bucks gone again for more line. All the cheap shit adds up because it needs to be fixed and replaced over time. A decent setup is much more bullet and accident proof.

If you really want to waste your time ducking around with rods and reels that are marketed to dumb baby boomers and guys with 3 kids from 3 different women fine. Enjoy your cheap rod and reel. Don't cry when you can't cast far because your abu silvermax or cheap cabelas brand reel froze up or grinds.

>>1007189
>50 dollar reel perform well for most needs

Not when the unsealed drag dries up and gets dust in sitting in the garage and someone cries like a bitch when it locks up breaks a big fish off.

You're objectively wrong. At the bare minimum a spinning reel needs a sealed drag to even approach reliability. Unless your assuming this person is going to regularly take their spinning reel apart and regrease and pack drags.

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>>1004942
You twats like this practice weld I did?

Normally work doesn't want you to do vertical weaves like this but I had to practice it for school.

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>>1007196
The black stuff is the slag that you chip off after the weld cools. It's burns off the rod and covers the weld to protect it as its cooling. Falls off very easily actually. Just lightly tap it with a welding hammer and it all falls of and explodes into pieces on the ground.

>>1007163
$200 for a spinning reel is a little excessive unless you're dunking it in the surf or its some fuck hueg reel. The $100-$125 spinning reels are really nice.

$300 isn't bad for a casting reel though.

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>>1007163
get a load of this fag..

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>>1007174
chatterbait, spinners, rat l trap

>>1007202
Not buying booze and weed for fishing gear is actually reasonable you addict.

>>1007190
>Ugly Stik
Where did the rest of that $200 go?

>>1007163

Not everyone pointing out good deals or reliable stuff that doesn't cost hundreds/thousands of dollars for newbies is insulting some guy whose life revolves around the hobby and who spends all their disposable income on it.

And for the record, I fish at least 60+ days a year, regularly target large catfish, carp, and saltwater fish (which scream drag), and do wade and kayak fishing in salt water.

There are plenty of reasons someone doesn't have to drop that much money on the hobby. I personally increase/decrease my spending as my fishing needs/options change.

But I don't think it's particularly helpful to folks like >>1007054 when they come away with the perception that all successful fisherman need to spend 200 bucks to get into the hobby or else they're screwed.

>>1007223
I mostly agree with what you're saying but it's retarded to call cheap reels reliable. A couple red fish with some size are going to destroy sub 100 dollar reels if they rip locked drag and the reel has been dunked and lost lubricant.

>>1007195
>Not when the unsealed drag dries up and gets dust in sitting in the garage and someone cries like a bitch when it locks up breaks a big fish off.

That's a matter of basic maintenance. I mean sure it makes more sense to pay hundreds of dollars if never taking care of your gear is worth that much to someone.

>>1007225
No. You get a sealed drag at the 70 to 100 dollar price point you idiot. You still have to oil and clean a reel occasionally but if you dunk a reel with a sealed drag it's not immediately fucked when the water dries and grits up the drag.

If you're honestly saying there is no need for a sealed drag you better call Shimano and Daiwa and let them know they got it all wrong. All customers have to do is regularly take apart their reel and rebuild their drag. Simple as that!

>>1007224
>I mostly agree with what you're saying but it's retarded to call cheap reels reliable.
>>A couple red fish with some size are going to destroy sub 100 dollar reels if they rip locked drag and the reel has been dunked and lost lubricant.

I would have agreed with you had not I tried that cheap ass shimano reel and found it to perform well beyond what its price point would suggest.

Of course it's not some $500 dollar reel, but it's most certainly not a piece of crap and has handled several red fish, bluefish, flatheads, and a 40+ inch black drum.

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>>1007225
Better call van staal and let them know they have been doing it wrong all along. All you need to do is take your entire reel apart and meticulously clean it if you want to surf fish and get your reel salty.

Tell them the benefits of how an unsealed drag reel that open to the elements the perfect spinning reel for such things.

>>1007224
Who in this thread even made those claims?

>>1007229
Meh. It's going to lock up on you one day and when it does its gonna be gay.

I still say there is no reason to spend less than 70 bucks on a reel. The lack of head aches and problems that disappear at that price point and up make it worth it. If you can only spend 30 bucks on a reel good luck having enough money to regularly fish and enjoy it.

The anti reverse on cheap reels ALWAYS fucking break. It's enraging. The bails on spinning reels break too.

>>1007224
>>1007225
>>1007227
>>1007229
Is this a meme? The only reels I've ever experienced a locked drag on are zebco 33s and all of my reels are in the 30-80 dollar price range. I spray some wd-40 into the reels occasionally but they're all several years old and have caught dozens of bull reds, large rays, and hundreds of other fish. Me thinks locked drags are not nearly as large of a problem as you think.

>>1007234
Headaches with a sub $70 reel
>throw reel in bed of truck and head out fishing with something that works perfectly fine

Headaches with a $200 reel
>baby it all the time and cry over tiny scratches