This was when BMW design peaked

cadillac ct6

>>17866349
Yes

I do agree with this. The E38 was the most 7-series like and that is definitely where BMW's design peaked

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fuckhuge barge that looks like a dagger

>>17866349
It's true. The E38 is even better looking than the W215 and I'm a massive Mercedes fanboy.

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became so rare to see them in original condition, fucking gopniks and fuccbois

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ALL OF MY HNNNNGGHHH

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>>17866395

>>17866349
>search for it under 200.000km
>180 results
>filter out autotragics
>13 results
welp

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>>17866400

>>17866404
those barges were old people cars when they were new so most of them were auto

>>17866404
What did you expect? It's the luxury class and people who bought S class and 7 usually didn't want to shift like the plebs.
I also prefer manual transmissions but that's just how it is/was.

>>17866404
>hurr muh manual
>in a luxobarge
Buy a fucking Miata if you wanna be a boyracer.

Back when they were new it kinda surprised me how the E38 was slimmer looking than the smaller E39

>>17866426
the point is they used to come in manual even the w140 s-class but baby boomers are literally the worst generation to ever walk the planet. the e38 and w140 were cars for the baby boomers parents who could actually drive manuel

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>>17866432
probably because longboi

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>>17866374
>fuckhuge barge
>smaller than the E39

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>>17866497
>>smaller than the E39

>>17866570
Don't look at the fucking numbers. The E38 is sleek and sexy and low and the E39 is just fat

>>17866597
that's exactly what I meant earlier. on paper it's fuck huge but it looks way more elegant than the kinda chubby E39

>>17866615
e39 is tall and narrow the e38 is wider so it has better proportions but e39 compared to a f30 the e39 is way sleeker

>>17866752
>but e39 compared to a f30 the e39 is way sleeker
That's no wonder since it literally all went downhill after E38+E39

>>17866844
basically when a burger was put in charge of designing their cars is when bmw lost its way

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>>17866850
I'd say that was just a symptom.
Reasoning behind it was the mandatory bloating of cars and the reason behind that was new almost worldwide (because changing to global market first instead of domestic) safety standards heavily fucking with proportions.

>>17866426
>He's never hooned a big body car

Sorry you're so sheltered

>>17866349
it's just a shame they're such unreliable pieces of shit

t. son of a man who's owned 5 in 10 years.

>>17866875
when bangle wanted to get rid of buttons is when the birth of the infotainment system came to be which brought in all the pedestrian crash safety regulations because now people cant just use a fucking button to get their radio to do something thanks to that fucking idiot bangle

you never let an artist design a fucking car thats the issue with cars now

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could not agree more
the facelifted e38 is the second best looking car to ever come out of germany

>>17866929
Which engines did they have?

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>>17866349
Classic exposed twin headlight design is the peak senpai.

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>>17866349
>Literally no other large car will ever look that slender and beautiful
Except you are wrong. Jaguar has been for a while going through a rebirth with beautiful long luxury cars.

>>17867688
doesn't really matter any bmw that isn't a 3-series will have a lot of issues

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nah

>>17867917
Let's be honest here, the current XJ design is old as shit...JLR need to come up with something new and exciting.

>>17866404
They can still be fast. My dad had an auto 735 modified way back (1990 or so). Would keep up with porsches and do around 300km/hr peak (he had it checked with speed gun as was an ex traffic cop) (had engine bored and reworked as well as some other stuff speedometer topped out at 260 but he said it was pinging off of the needle at the 0). He literally drove 800km in about 4 hours (including fuel stops) when he had to get from northern end of South Africa to a hospital in Durban when I was due to be born, even had a police escort that had no chance of keeping up. He said it was amazing how the car just sucked down to the road at speed. He'd regularly sit at 240km/hr on the highway (traffic laws in SA were lax usually a speeding fine as long as you weren't driving stupidly) he would only open the car up later at night on the highways when he knew traffic was minimal.

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WHAT THE FUCKKKK

I didn't know they also look good in white

>>17866349
the E38 was the definitive 7 series and the E39 was the definitive 5 series
3 series is debatable, it could really be any of them but the current lineup

>>17867688
1st had a 4.0 M60, the block cracked
2nd had a 4.4 M62, the gearbox decided to become a blender
3rd was a 2.8 M52 I6, the heating matrix broke, would've cost more than he paid for the car to fix so he said fuck it
4th was a 4.4 M62 in perfect gunmetal grey, but with a sort of depth to it, and wheels from a later gen. some cunt keyed it and that seemed to curse it. top hose went, replaced that, various brake, steering & wheel issues, fixed those. then the gearbox, like the 2nd, became a blender.
the current 3.5 M62 has had various little faults all costing reasonable amounts, as he spent 3k on it he doesn't mind spending 300 to fix shit every few months (yeah, that's how frequent this whale keeps beaching itself)

its current problem is *hopefully* being fixed but has taken 3 fucking months to diagnose. it kept going into safe mode when starting while still warm or sitting in traffic for 20 minutes, abs & tcs lights come on and all the dials & power steering stopped working. our usual garage couldn't properly eliminate the codes so we took it to a BMW dealership, they PROMISED us they would fix it. they failed, instead of meeting my dad face-to-face when he came to collect it, the service rep faggot took a 2 hour lunch break. they misdiagnosed & replaced a gearbox tilt (?) sensor, which meant taking out the driver's seat (resetting the god damn pain in the ass position profiles in the process) but left all the labor off the final bill, just charged for the part, afraid to admit their fuckup with words.

found a man who said he'd check the modules and find the problem, charges a lot less than any garage and that's only if he can fix it. so now the tcs module has been replaced & reprogrammed or whatever the fuck and now it might actually work, we'll see tomorrow.

>>17868504
>Best 3 series
E30. The handling is unmatched by other 3 series.
>Best 5 series
E34. Last model with the classic BMW headlights and the last truly reliable BMW.
>Best 7 series
E38

>>17868506
*the 2nd also had some major engine malfunction but idr what exactly, that was 7 years ago :x

needless to say this is the last time he's buying a BMW, unless he suddenly becomes rich and can buy brand new or at least one with a warranty. i don't blame him for wanting them because they're incredibly comfortable and easy cars to drive, which is what you want for highway commuting, but he never spent more than 3k on any of them, so he was asking for trouble really.

oh yeah, between the 3rd and 4th he had an audi a4, volvo v70, vauxhall omega 2.8 and traded each one in for the other, and while he did like the omega THE GEARBOX TURNED INTO A BLENDER, AGAIN. AGAIN.

i'm pretty sure he's car cursed at this point.

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>>17868517
damn i loved those. first 5 series to be a wagon, first AWD 5 series and also beat mercedes line up in reliability (which got it a few awards for reliability).

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>>17868506
>gunmetal grey

Is it this one?

Fuck, that looks like fucking SEX

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LONGBOI

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>>17868536
yeah man, it was such a perfect example :(

had these wheels on, this picture is kinda poo but they actually worked really well together.

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yo an dis is how not to do it, homeboi

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>>17868576

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This car with this color does things to my dick

>>17866357
shit looks like some bullshit you would see peyton manning driving during a thursday night football commercial after a holding penalty

>>17868504
E30 best 3, E38 and E39 are correct

>>17868902
e39 is an unreliable soap bar lad. it was too conservative.

>>17868902
>E39
Why

>>17868812
is that a original color? fucking beauty had a e34 but something went wrong with the timing belt or chain

>>17869028
Factory color Avus Blue as I recall.

Likely belt, the early M20 ones were trash and snapped easy. BMW quickly phased them out and replaced them with M50s that had chains.

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>>17868812
>>17869028
its original

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>>17867978
Fug I saw one of these today. It was so nice holy shit

Also
>best BMW design
>not E34

E38s look so fucking gangster, for lack of a better word. They're so long and low. It's beautiful.

i can buy a mint condition black E38 with the 4.4 V8, manual gearbox and LSD from an E39 M5 for $6k, should I?

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>>17869838
You should, man can never have too much 7 series in his life.

>>17869947
our mechanics can't work on them... the ones that knew how to have retired

>>17869953
Pucker up your asshole and do it yourself, that's what I've been doing. You'll become a master of arcane technology in no time, something like some shitty Volkswagen TSI engine seems so trivial after these beasts.

>>17869962
it's easier if you can read german, and have the wealth of knowledge on the internet through their forums to explain how to work on them

googling in europe might fetch great results, but in burgerland we only get results to yahoo answers or some stupid thing

>>17869967
The Bentley manuals will get you extremely far though in "basic" stuff.
I do admit that they can be a bit of a pain to work on at times, I once had to call some old dude in fucking Japan to figure out my E32's electronics.He wasn't exactly thrilled that I was calling him in the middle of the night.

>>17869973
as a european you should've thought ahead to the time zone differences... that's hilarious though only in europe

i think it was on hyves or possibly yahoo, i was in a dutch chatroom and just posted my phone number for the hell of it and some dutch woman calls me 5 minutes later lecturing me about my horrible views on immigration

If you asked me to draw a car when I was 9 years old it would look something like that

>>17868791
the perfect 4 door design. the end.

>>17870009
implying you weren't drawing dicks when you were 9

>>17867917
It doesn't look like the successor of XJ. I hate that c-pillar. It tells that Pooinloo skipping to paint it.

>>17866349
I like Mitsubishi Galant VIII or Alfa Romeo 159 looks more, but that is just my opinion

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>>17866349
I agree

Fucking hell, I was on nofap.
Thank you very much, stupid cunts.

>>17870536
when you read it backwards it's PEMYS :DDD

>>17869970
what exactly were you googling?

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>>17867917
Compared to the E38 it looks awfully obese and as if it is wheezing and gasping for air.

>>17866349
>>17866395
>>17868419
>>17868536
>>17868589
came

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Just picked this one up for $2500. Clean with 120000 miles.

>>17866349
Stop being a hipster, new BMWs look so much better in every way, shape, and form.

>>17871697
all downhill from there

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>>17867917
I prefer the classic XJ design

The new one looks generic and try hard

Is the v12 e38 really as bad as people say?

Should I get the v8 or what?

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>>17871978
i wouldn't call this generic honestly
it looks sexy as hell

>>17871994
get the 740

>>17871998
It just looks like a mercedes or a kia to me.

Nothing about that design says Jaguar

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>>17867980
Watch out, best XJ design coming through

>>17871978
dis desu
>>17872018
>Nothing about that design says Jaguar
yup.

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Would people in the thread recommend the 725tds? I'm Europoor so I wouldn't really want a VEEATE to commute in and I also don't care about going too fast if I'm picking luxury. So is the 725tds a good, reliable pick for a daily. I don't so much care if some of the electronics are broken but there shouldn't be any costly repairs or stuff breaking which kill the whole car.

>>17872430
the 2.5 tds engine is a piece of shit. get the 3.0 diesel or a 728i if you want reliability

>>17872442
My pal has the 2.5tds in his E34 and it atleast has a lot of miles on it and he hasn't had to do much to it.

>>17872430
Is there ethanol pumps in your country? It works on all bmw 7er built after 1988. You can run a 740i for the price of your average shitbox family car.

The e34 525tds are common but they need more maintenance than a m20/m50

>>17872469
There are but the flexifuel conversion costs. And the ethanol isn't really super cheap, it's about 0.90-1€ /litre

>>17872442

This.
I'll go a little further and say that if you want a diesel, take a mercedes w124 300d with auto transmission. Diesel isn't bmw thing from that era.

>>17872487
How are the W210s instead? They generally seem to be cheaper than the W124s nowadays but they don't seem reliable.

>>17868644
that car looks so much better in a dark color

>>17872474

Bro, spill e85 gradualy for 1000km until your check engine light is on, then go a little lower. Without a flexfuel convertion you could go about 70%. People forget that the car computer is always changing the air/fuel mix until a certain amount. If there is a lot of e85 the calculator will enrich untim it can't (ence the check motor light)

>>17872502

I'm serious, AVOID w210. W124 is milles ahead in terms of built quality and reliability

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>>17866349
shit nigga deez cheap

>>17872551
That's a good deal and that car is so fucking sexy and so fucking comfy

>>17867917
he goes away with a sort of girl for the weekend and when they bring the check he says "awfully sorry, bit of a problem with the wallet. would you mind awfully settling this while I go warm up the jaaaaaaaag"

>>17872430
Other than failing high pressure fuel pump the M51 is pretty strong, but paired with e38 it wont be fast

>>17872551
because they eat money

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>>17871978
The X358 facelift XJ is the best looking XJ generation hands down.

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>>17874174
>being this wrong
Pic related is the best looking XJ generation

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Everything bmw from that era is gold. e30 to e39 = magical.

pic related. My six speed.

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>>17866349
>best looking large car
>anything other than a Holden design

Marvelous car

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>>17872551

>driving an old 7 Series

>in bongland

How the FUCK do you think you gonna achieve this when most in that country can't even afford driving a Fiesta?

>>17872551
that is easily 6k in insurance fees

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>>17874533
>someone from /o/ is actually driving an 8series V12 with manuel in fucking Burgerland

adonbelivit

>>17874871
>a Holden design
it's an opel design

>>17875114
I believe he has 4 E31s

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>>17866349
you guys are retarded

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>>17875159
I only believe the bread on hood.
Bread brings truth

>>17875212
>he does not comprehend the concept of timelines

>>17875233
I mean you're a newfag but alright. 2 of them are in the /bmwg/ collage

>>17871697
>colonial style house with.... attached barn??

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Stand back smol boi

>>17875245
>he thinks everyone has to be always up to date to what tripfags and attention whores post

That's cute

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pre or post facelift?

>>17875127
the first commodore was, but the design from the 90's onwards was Australian, the chassis for the VE/VF (pontiac g8/Chevrolet SS) was entirely Australian with an American engine

>>17875683

The pre facelift looks a tad more classic but the face lift model has of course some bugs ironed out and can look cooler with those narrower headlights.

Based on looks alone it would be tough for me to choose.

>>17875683
The old headlights have a nicer 3D effect to them because the reflectors inside them were deeper in the casing while the facelift ones are not as deep and right to front glass (plastic)

>>17872430
get a 728i with LPG if you want cheap.

the tds is a piece of shit

>>17874174
Yeah the facelift is a beautiful Jag

I don't know exactly what they did but it just looks 200x better than the first gen X350

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boxy boi

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My car has more lines than a 50 year old Pamela Anderson

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bigger boxy boi

>>17876421
This is beautiful, what car is this?

>>17876421
omg it's so long

>>17876696
That's what your mum said last night

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no hat boxy boi

>>17876421
hello dogger

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pimp boxy boi

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BMW really had it going back then.

Just look at these eyes

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no eyes boxy boi

>>17877114
My man

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>>17866391
>gopniks
where you frm fren ?

>>17868800
you wish you were peyton manning

>>17875159
Yup. 1 six speed, three autos. 3 e34's all auto 535i's, one m sport, and two with ac schnitzer suspensions and body kits. 4 e30's, a euro spec e36 m3 and a e46 m3.

>>17875245
Yup, both e31's and my m-technic e30 and the e34 m sport. :)

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>>17879165
what the fuck man
two cars would be pushing it for me

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>>17879200
I collect stuff. That era has really caught my eye and the local economic conditions allowed me to pick up a lot of bmw's at unreal prices. It would be a dream of mine to be a vintage bmw dealership once I hit enough stock.

82000 km ac schnitzer S5 clone I just bought.

>>17867877
OUT

>>17866597
>>17866615
is anyone on 4chan capable of liking something without completely trashing another thing?

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>>17871978
You mentioned the classic XJ?

Couldn't agree more.

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>>17879667
my neighbor

this a heep thread now

>>17875266
Hell yea. Fuck walking outside to the barn.

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>>17879680
heeeeep

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>>17879869
Yeeaaahh heep

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>>17879904
Sorry krauts, its an XJ thread now

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>>17879908
guy who posted the jag fucked up, we run this now

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>>17879916

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>>17879926
fucking love my baby

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can my jeep hang?

>>17880009
Yeah dude, nice pic

>>17878223
Do you want to suck his dick or something?

>>17868059
>africa
>800km in 4 hours
Chose one

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>>17866597
>>17866615
In what world is the E39 fat you tools

>>17868506
here's an update on the current 735

ABS module thing was delivered on tuesday and fit without issue, but the ABS pump was delivered this morning in a box without any bubble wrap and the switch on the side was smashed off during transit, so now we have to wait another day for that to be delivered and then another day for BMW to reprogram the fucking thing, in the meantime the fucking radiator cracked while it was in the garage, which happened a year ago (i forgot to mention in the first post) so they fit a new one under warranty and are investigating whether or not it's being caused by something else that might be wrong ...

fuckin shit piss mate.

>>17880681
Compared to the E38 it DOES look chubby.

The ones after these are dangerously obese though.

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>>17881625
i still wouldn't say the e39 looks ''fat'', BMW was just trying to make the car look more modern by adding rounder shapes

>>17868419
>Winterpock Grocery
The fuck, that's not far from my house but I have never seen that Bimmer driving down 360

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>>17879165
What the fuck Anon... I can't imagine if both of my BMWs even worked, much less maintaining that many.
That's fucking awesome, and if you ever become a vintage BMW dealer, make sure to let me know :^)

>>17867285
Damn. How much would I have to spend to get one of these in the US?

>>17866349
I'd buy one if there were any in decent condition in my country.

>>17881642
FUCK

All three of them look so fucking BOSS.

>>17881676
quick look and i didn't ANY b12 e38s
only found a b12 8 series and its rhd
http://m.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C879771

>>17881701
Just set as my desktop background.

>>17882759
same here lol

>>17881642
I just realised BMW is retarded and blew it hard when they made the 4 series.
The 8 series was it's own grand touring coupe.
The 7 series was the biggest luxury sedan
The 6 series was the biggest luxury coupe, a 7 series coupe essentially.
The 5 series was the mid sized sedan
The 4 series should have been the mid sized coupe, a 5 coupe.
The 3 series was the 'compact' sedan.
The 2 series should have been the 3 series coupe not the 4 series. You stupid fucking german retards.
The 1 series was supposed to be a fukkin super car not a 3 series replacement.

>>17882812
dude.. the 8 series was a literal 2 door 7 series, same as the Mercedes SL is a 2 door S class.
6 series was a 2 door 5 series.
4 series is a 2 door 3 series
2 series is the 2 door 1 series

>>17882831
No.
Compare the 6 to the 7 at any time they've both been out. the 6 is based on the 7. The 8 was based on dominating pussy by the dozen.

>>17882860
While the E24 was derived off the E23 7 series the 8 series was designed to be a class above the 6 series.
E63 and F12 are based off the 5 series.

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA WADDA FACK

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>>17882759
same

>>17866391
Yeah, every time I see one there is a russian driving it, foreign plates, parts missing, engine sounds like shit, etc.

>>17883031
Well, that's like the usual fate for literally every upper class German car

>>17881659
Working on it. If it the CDN $ drops again I will probably set up in the Black Hills and start auctioning Canadian cars off on Bring a Trailer dot com.

>>17882938
Want

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This is the best BMW in existance
Prove me wrong

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>>17866349

>>17884776
This is so fucking nice. I can't imagine how shitty it is to upkeep it though.

>>17884800
Pretty straightforward, just Bosch fuel injection and primitive pre-OBD1 check lights.

>>17868504
>current lineup
>implying any of the pig fat current year BMWs are anything close to E46 or E30
>implying the peak of "3-series" didnt end up being the "sub compact" 1-series 1M

>>17884502
>This is the best BMW
>no turn visisble signals
no shit

Where can I buy some of these nice older cars in the US? Do you have to live in CA or FL or something?

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>>17874871
Fucking yes. Owned a 2012 PPV. Damn good looking reliable car.

>>17866349
But anon the e32 is much better looking.
The e38 is the exact point at which bmw started going downhill designwise.

>>17874871
>>17885651
These are honestly really nice looking when you throw OEM alloys on them