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>stuck with pic related
>parents got a plan to pay it off for 5 years
>im 18
>going to have this car until im 23
>dad says he's not giving me the pink slip till it's all paid off
>i can't work during the week cause i play sports
>this car has 127 horsepower and dont want to spend my prime years driving this shitbox

how do i convince him to trade it in at nissan. I went there about a month ago looking at cars, and some guy walked up to me and i asked him. He explained that even if i get a cheaper car, they give me a fuckin check for the difference, but he's on the edge of trading it in. I got it in march, 6 speed POS...silver spoon prolems but pls help
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stop being a spoiled brat and drive your fucking free car, asshole.
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It's the 6-speed manual?
Consider yourself lucky, you could have a CVT and feel like killing yourself every single time you step on the gas pedal.
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>>17864870
This.
I had to work a few years to get my car. You are getting what people work for years to get for absolutely nothing.
Stop being a fucking man child, and enjoy your free fucking car. At least it's not a CVT.
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>>17864870
>>17864890
i would have rather worked for and bought a car myself. the annoying thing is i searchhed for a car for months and they bought the exact style i didn't ask for after i gave them a compiled list
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>>17864855
Get a job, work weekends, and buy a second car that's fun
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>>17864914
>not a bad idea, i was planning on buying a motorcycle actually. i just need to leave my old shit job and go work valet then the cash will rake in
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>>17864913
Then buy your own car retard.
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>>17864855
Quit sports and get a real job. Sports are for idiots.
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>>17864945
>t. got bullied in high school

>>17864937
I can't sell the car. what's the point of buying another car? I'll just have two and my parents will be pissed i didn't drive the expensive one. it just sucks that i'm locked on cars till i graduate
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>>17864913
maybe you shouldnt have been so keen on getting a jdm drift car with 6 turbos and a stripped interior
you kids all think alike and its obvious that anything without a welded diff is NOT okay
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>>17864975
i didn't want a fucking sports car i just wanted something that wasn't such a mom car. google this car and tell me great it is.

i would have legit been fine with a honda civic as long as it was stick
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>>17864855

Total it.

Or, suck dick on the side.
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>>17864855
>127 entire horsepower
>complaining

I've got 59 and it's completely fine as long as you beat it like a cheap whore. How bad is the gearbox?
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>>17865001
mechanically i can't complain there's no clutch stick cause the guy before me knew how to shift but sheesh, it's fucking slow. what car has 59 horsepower?? ive never heard of such a low amount except on motorcycles. i think the lowest i've seen was 80 something in a miata
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Tint the windows, upgrade speakers and enjoy it. You aint a speed racer boi. Get a dirt bike, its way more fun than some 350Z or other "sports car"
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>>17864999
is craigslist the easiest way to find guys cocks to suck? i know that it's unironically a good form of income that's not illegal unless it falls under prostitution or something , but i don't need a new car like tomorrow. maybe when half the loan is paid ill switch but man i don't want this shit for 5 years.
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>>17865047
had a dirtbike, broke my wrist on it. i want another dual sport or something but im still living with my parents right now and they do NOT want me to have another dirtbike.

>>17865047
got a sub from my friend


i don't think you guys get it. i don't want a sports car. that's actually what i didn't ask for cause they are too expensive
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>>17864870
This
Just get a job OP. You'll have another car before you know it if you really work hard towards it. Just don't do stupid things in between like land yourself in jail.
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I got nissan primera from parents and I love it [spoiler] I have to[/spoiler]
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>>17864913
Who cares if it's not what you wanted, it is literally a free fucking car.

It's better you not have what you want anyways, having a shitbox you really don't care about is better while you build up driver experience, and not wreck your shitty dream car. By the time you're 23, you might have grown half a brain to realize how fucking spoiled and lucky you are. If not, you now are 23 with a car worth 4-6k. Sell it then and get what you want.
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>>17864870
A fucking new one at that too.
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>>17865046
VW UP, lowest engine. To be fair, it's a 74hp car detuned to 59 by deleting the power curve above 5k rpm.

Stats say 14s 0-60, I'm honestly confident I could get 12 if not 11 with it. But I wouldn't even fucking drive it if it had an auto.

Just wait it out anon. I want a 2004 Civic Type R and I'm waiting patiently for that as well.

t. 19 y/o britbong paying £1700 insurance for his cuckbox
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>gets new nissan Sentra with 6 speed for free
Boo hoo, suck it up.
Get a job and save up for a used sporty car if you want one so badly
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>>17865097
Thank you, Echofag, for this underrated post. My sides are in orbit.
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total it

then get a 650r
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>>17864961
The title is not in your name it is not your car walk away from it
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>>17865062
>actually considering whoring yourself out to suck dicks because you don't like the FREE car your parents bought you
Holy shit what the fuck is wrong with you?
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i wish my parents had bought me a shitbox.

i had to suck 300$ worth of dick for my shitbox when i was 18 and also didnt live with my parents, and had my own place

also i bet you still live with your parents you little cuck
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>>17865959
>>17865977
the thought of a smooth teenage twink having whore himself out and sell his boypuss to buy a car makes me fucking diamonds bros
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>>17865977
yea i do cause we aren't fucking poor, my parents are actually stable, and they don't hate me you degen.
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>>17865126
Lmao 18 yearbong here paying £750 for a 1.6 a3. You gotta work the insurance better my man
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>>17866481
Don't talk shit m8. Even for a 1.0 corsa with a cuckbox installed it would be over £1500 at your age.
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>>17865977
Damn fucking Indians that was a nice s10
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>>17866565
i see you on the dbt threads often. did you ever get that XR you wanted?
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>>17864855
If you're 18 and playing sports for free you're a regard and nuts need to get an actual job
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>>17866481
>£750 in a 1.6

Bullshit. Do you live in a gated community filled with doctors, lawyers and priests or something?
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>>17865079
What did you ask for? You said something about a list, what was on it?
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>>17866828
basically 4 door cars (for low insurance) that were not sporty, but not mom cars. like a sleek body type. i was being very specific because it was gonna be the car i was gonna have the the next 5 years so you can imagine how picky i was being. i asked for manual, preferably black or white. my first choice was a miata but my parents thought it was too sporty.

>my first choice was a miata but my parents thought it was too sporty.
>miata
>too sporty

see the original issue here. also this was before i knew as much as i do about the types of cars there are now, but on my list were dodge darts, kia optimus, hyundai tiburons, chevy cobalts, shit like that.
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>>17866886
How can someone actually complain about a free, reliable car. How stuck up can one person be.

Fight me irl
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>>17866886
Seriously mate it seems like the only real issue you have with the car is how it looks and the horsepower. The other cars you listed (Dart, Optima, Cobalt, Tiburon,) aren't particularly powerful either. Heck, only the Cobalt and Optima even break 200. I understand wanting something better but honestly just having a car that runs pretty good for 18. Plus, a free car without issues until you're 23 means you can save up even more cash for a nicer/faster/sleeker car once you're done with this one. All in all it really seems like you got a good deal, OP
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>>17864993
>i didn't want a fucking sports car i just wanted something that wasn't such a mom car
"moooom I asked you for a 5 series BMW and you got me a B-class Mercedes, omg I hate you so much, you're the worst parents in the world"

Something must have been wrong with your list to begin with.
Be grateful you've a car to begin with you millennial fuck twat.
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Kys
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>>17864993
>i didn't want a fucking sports car

>>17866886
>my first choice was a miata but my parents thought it was too sporty

too predictable. Pretending to be muh racing driver with literally 0 experience, whatcha think real life is like need for speed?
Why doesn't the US imposes neo-drivers limitations on power like the rest of the world?
I used to complain that I can only drive maximum 90 bhp for 3 years but thank god that limit exist, there aren't fucking wannabes on the roads thinking it's their personal track
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>plays sports
>gets free car
>bitches about said car
that micropenis is showing hard op if the sports isnt getting you laid a nicer car wont either
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>>17867038
>TFW USA and the first car I drove was a 260-hp automatic SUV
Now I've got a 190 hp manual sedan and constantly speed and swerve through traffic not 5 months later
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>>17866985
hmmmm i suppose. what car u drive?
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>>17866985
ikr my first car had 76HP, which was perfect because I had to drive the wheels off of and learn about preservation of momentum just to keep up, and meanwhile the fact that I even had a car and could go where I want when I want, drive friends around, etc. was awesome.

Great for keeping me from getting in to too much trouble, cheap to maintain, learned all kinds of stuff about how to work on cars.
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>>17867081
>190hp manual sedan
4th gen maxima perhaps?
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>>17866886
All of those are boring as shit cars. Most kids play the Subaru meme. Subaru advertises themselves as safe, reliable and practical cars. Kids might be able to talk their parents into buying them a WRX. Or a turbo Legacy/Forester/Outback.
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>>17867171
Can confirm. First car I bought myself was an Impreza (not WRX). It was indeed great in bad weather, held up great when I crashed it once, and with some minor adjustments was plenty of fun to hoon in. Trooper of a car.

And then when you're not a poorfag anymore you can upgrade.
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>>17867171
they may be boring but they are less boring that what i got now. the dart is actually pretty cool tbqh. also no wrx near me for reasonabl price anyway. everything 20k, i don't live in cali anon.
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>>17864855
You got a fucking free new car ya douche. If you want a better car just save up and buy it as a second car. Absolutely no reason why you can't do that.

I literally have the same car as you as a DD but have an old S500 as my fun car and will be jumping on a Mustang GT after they fall into the $18,000 range.

Stop whining having a new reliable econo box that get's 30mpg at 18 already removes most of the stresses of owning a first car. Hell you didn't even have to pay for it.
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>>17867159
bmws with 2.5 liter engines also had 190hp
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>>17864855
My friend's parents gave him an 04 Dodge Stratus they got for like $1k
>No A/C
>Just radio (No AUX)
>Whole car shuddered when you rolled your window up and down
>Steering wheel vibrated when you came to a stop

I think my friend would have happily traded places with you OP, stop complainng
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>>17867255
>the dart is actually pretty cool tbqh.

No. Not at all. They were discontinued for a reason. I had a rental and the das was rattling with 10,000 miles on it. They suffer bad reliability. The only engine worth a damn is the top trim 2.4 and even with that they are slower than 1st gen neons. Get some taste first before reconsidering a car.
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OP consider the following:

Go fuck yourself, retard.
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>>17866598
Probably named driver on his parents's insurance so effectively uninsured.
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>>17864855
Sucks. Way it is. I got stuck with my first car too in a "this is what we want and you're getting it and there's nothing you can do"

I was stuck Jetta 1.8t, 5 speed slushbox tiptronic

I HATED the car for the first 3 years I owned it. Wished nothing more than to be rid of that stupid piece of german shit.

Then I started repairing it. Then learning about it and how to repair it to make me appreciate it more. Researching my car incidentally caused learning many other models in the same year and VW's structure and the interchangeability of parts within their line.

Now it's my piece of german shit. Now, I'm determined to keep it on the road as long as physically possible. Parts are cheap and it has it's obnoxious quirks but it's reasonable to work on.

OP, it may not be the son you asked for, but he is yours.
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>>17867159>>17867137

2000 V6 Passat
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>>17866886
Miatas are total deathtraps

If you wanna play statistics with your life like that at a new driver who is obviously looking to "go fast" that's not foolish, that's reckless.
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Fuck you. If I got a car for free, I'd be the happiest fucking driver around
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ffs I hate people like you. Be thankful you intitled fuck. Are you seriously bitching about a free car. You should feel lucky for receiving a car that will run for the next couple years no problem. Shit, you should be happy if they fucking give you a running heap of shit that cost $1k. Also, don't use highschool sports as an excuse. A lot of kids balance sports and a job no problem. You just have to work hard.
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give me the car and buy your own you fucking ungrateful piece of shit.
seriously. you are the fucking worst.
how hard do your parents work to provide for you, give you things that most people can't afford?
how much do they want to have raised a good son with self awareness?
how many times have they agonized over whether they've provided enough for you to live a comfortable enough life to be a good person who is humble, respectful, and willing to use the resources he has to create a good life for himself?
and you go and do this, and feel like this, about the thing your parents worked so hard to get for you.
you ungrateful FUCK.
fuck me I am mad. if I ever found out my kid did this I would take the car away and force him to ride the bus.
it's a 2013. I bet it is reliable, practical, with enough space for you to drive your faggot friends around town. it's not going to break down. I bet it has good tires on it too. I bet you don't have to pay for fuel. If you do have to pay for fuel, they gave you a new car with good mileage so you wouldn't have to pay too much out of your marijuana budget.
every dollar of that $12,000 your parents spent for you is wasted.

you FUCK.

you ungrateful FUCK.
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I see where you're coming from. How about list the car on Craigslist so someone else can finish the payments. Then you can get a different car. Tada, lol
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>>17864855
OP assuming you didn't go crash it into a tree or jump on cl to suck some dick, hear me out.

/o/ doesn't have answers

If it did someone might point out the availability of SE-R /SPEC V/ NISMO parts, and the surplus junk yards hold.

while they lecture you for being a spoiled shit, they fail to see the opportunity you have been presented. You have a long running platform that happens to have a sport model.

>NISMO
>lrn2wrench
>make it yours
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>>17868295
Please don't waste your money on this car, and if you want a new car work for it. Parents don't (usually) give nice cars for free.
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Look, your parents didn't ignore the list you gave them out of some sort of negligence or insult towards you. They did it because they have different values for the car you should be driving than you do. They want you to drive something safe and slow so that you drive safe and slow. They don't want you doing something reckless in a sporty car that gets you hurt. They made that choice because they want you alive and well, remember that.

As for the car itself, as long as they're paying for it, you should be happy to use it for all the conveniences it offers you. It may not have been what you wanted, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful to you.

You can still have the car you want. All you have to do is buy it, yourself. They can't stop you from doing that.

Most people don't get the opportunity to have a car they don't have to pay for. Even if it's not everything you wanted, you ought to be thankful for what you're offered until you have the means to get what you want on your own.
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Like most everyone else in this thread I'm gonna go ahead and tell you to kill yourself you ungrateful piece of shit.

I worked my ass off for 6 months so I could buy a piece of shit unreliable car for $3,500. Why the fuck do you even play sports? Get a girlfriend and drive her around in your zero maintenance zero responsibility car and enjoy your life. Fucking faggots man holy shit
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>>17868295
what parts? like an intake and shit or an entire new motor ?
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>>17868341
i see where you come from ty anon
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>i play sports
Stop wasting your time, idiot.
>going to have this car until im 23
Get a part time job and buy yourself a shitter on Craigslist for 1-2 grand to have as an auxiliary.
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>>17866392
>mfw my dad is a multi millionaire that owns a construction company.

I just dont beg for money like a little bitch nigga
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>>17864855
Poor kid is stuck with a brand new car his parents bought him so he can play sports

You need a swift kick in the nuts
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>>17866993
>1980s-2000s = millennial
Thanks Mr. Millennial
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>>17864855
How about you shut the fuck up and drive the free car like the spoiled bitch you are.
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Just total the car
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When I was a kid like you I begged my parents to let me buy a car, and they gave me a bicycle instead. Now I'm not a fat piece of shit.

Literally get a job if you don't like it.

> 6 speed POS

Haha fuck off, that car would be a million times worse with the CVT slushbox.

IHBT
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>>17864855
lol what a cuck he has to drive literally one of the worst cars in his class. Could've had a Mazda3 or something ten times better. The best part is this kid deserves to drive a POS Nissan for complaining about his free car. Enjoy your 5 years of slush. As a side note we can tell you're underage.
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>buying a car on a payment plan
>ever
Its like you enjoy paying 1.8x sticker price for an asset that depreciates exponentially. I'll never understand westerners.
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You absolute fucking mong, don't just suggest what type of car you want, learn to surf CL.

Could have had a high-mileage Acura TL for cheaper than that piece of shit, you lazy piece of shit.
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My first car was a fucking 15 year old Hyundai, i would have killed for your car OP.

ungrateful cunt.
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>>17864913
>after i gave them a compiled list
This is why fudds hate millenials.
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>>17864855
>Parents bought you a car
>Complaining
Got damnit anon don't be so ungrateful.
When I was your age I was sleeping on the floor.
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>>17868901
>1.8x sticker price
Is that what interest rates are like in Europistan? My last car loan had an APR of 1.9%
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I would come in here and bitch like everyone else but kek that car is pretty much the worst possible choice in that bracket. They probably got that one because it will make you want to work harder to buy your own, do that, then you can give it back to your dad and say "hey I know you picked this car because you really liked it so instead of selling it to some chump who won't appreciate it I'll give it to you so that I know you'll have a car you enjoy driving."
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>>17864961
>>t.got bullied in highschool
not that anon but i think what he was saying is that you are and ADULT playing SPORTS INSTEAD of working at a JOB
unless you are planning on playing sports professionally or are getting a kickass scholarship from it, you need to sort out your priorities
also its a free goddamn car
i got my first car for free simply because it was an old pos that my dad didn't want to deal with anymore and let me tell you what i was fucking grateful for it
shit i still drive the thing and im still fucking grateful for it
my advice is to suck it up and drive your free car until you get a job and then buy a car you want
the title is not in your name so you can just give it back to your dad
if he gives you shit tell him to give you the title so you can sell it
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>>17864855
OP i want you to go to your parents, hug them and tell them that you love them and that you are thankful that they bought you a car. It may not be pretty, but it's a free car. You will first hate it but later on you will miss it if you have to let it go.
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>all those retards saying OP is ungrateful
>B HAPPY WAT U GOT
>SUM PPL WORK HARD TO GET A '95 CIVIC
>SPOILED BRAT
>HURR DURR THIS GENERATION OF KIDS
getting shit instead of tasty pie must sound okay to you all, too.
i wanted to get a shitty civic for $500 so i can know what it feels to have shit car, but unfortunately got objectively "better" and more expensive car, i know that feels OP. hold tight there, just be patient and wait till you have your own shekels.
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>>17869267
>ADULT playing SPORTS INSTEAD
Good to stay fit and healthy whilst you're young
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>>17869883
ty anon somebody knows tfw
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>tfw parents bought me a land rover discovery 03 for $4000 as my first car
I'm happy as fuck desu, though I wish the gas mileage was better
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>18 year olds think the next five years are the prime of their life
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>>17864855
Guess what I had to do to get my first car, OP?
After paying my parents bills for months because my dads hands got mutilated at work, they finally payed me back once the settlement hit.
I used that for a down payment and worked my fucking ass off to pay my OWN car off with my OWN sweat. I didn't rely on my parents, then cry about the consequences like some little bitch.
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>>17867038
>Why doesn't the US imposes neo-drivers limitations on power like the rest of the world?

never heard of this for cars as european, which countries do this?

I know about horrendous high insurance costs and power limitations on bikes for beginners though
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>>17866985
I have a 2005 cobalt SS and it's fast as shit in a straight line

Just don't try to turn
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>>17869883
it's more like getting a bigmac instead of a $15 burger.
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>>17870181
but what we're saying is we want the big mac because it tastes better even though it may be made of shit.
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>>17870206
well those people are retarded. no one wants the big mac over the $15 burger, and no one says it tastes better. we just want it cause we're not paying for it.
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>>17870181
I know it'll probably sound weird. But I often get 0.5L Cola instead of 2L. I wanted to know - how is it drive a true shitbox, how does the car of 90s feel. How its better, more simple than nowadays vehicles. I wanted to feel every bit of Civic (I'm not OP btw). Civic is one of examples, there was Mazdas, Toyotas and other Japan shitboxes that I wanted to own that were made in 90s, probably in 80s too. I didnt give a single fuck about comfyness or muh daily driveability. I just wanted something that runs, has reasonable power, doesnt have unnecessary shit, like additional electronics. Power, great gearbox is all I needed. For, probably, a cheaper price too!
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>>17870222
it depends on how you drive it really. if you drive it on the streets like any other car, it's fucking awful. they're uncomfortable, you don't feel safe in them, they're loud, the radio is shit, but they get decent gas mileage.
but if you drive them to their limits and beat the shit out of them, they're great fun. go buy a $500 manual corolla or civic or lancer, and just launch the car at every chance you get, take it out at night and do handbrake turns around roundabouts or corners, just push the car and yourself to the limits and they can be great fun.
and yes, it is simpler. you've got the radio, power steering, and not much else.
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>>17864945
>Quit sports and get a real job. Sports are for idiots.
got some adolescent scars, faggot?
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>>17870238
As I mentioned, I dont care for comfort much. Its not like I'm looking to buy luxury sedan. Beating it to crap is kinda meh, theyre great cars after all and I wanted them to DD and have fun at the same time. Also, they look cool and rare nowadays.
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>>17869883
No, the problem is that I was raised with realistic expectations.

You have a SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLAR CAR. You got said car for FUCK ALL. What is there not to understand. I would've loved what you have for my first car, 6 speed 127hp. It sounds fun. Seriously. Stop complaining about a free pie and be thankful you didn't get shit like the rest of us.
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>>17870274
that's not OP. i'm OP. he's just anon who can empathize
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>>17870285
That all still applies to you.

You are now several thousand dollars richer. Suck it up.
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>>17864855
Stop being so ungrateful you little cunt.
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>>17864855
Keep it as your daily. Buy a cheap unreliable shit heap to have fun in on weekends.
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>>17867442
b-b-b-but Anon they have more than one air
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>>17870222
>>17870238
(((this))) is what a first car should be like. If this is what op is talking about I fully get where he is coming from
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>>17870486
ty anon. but i get what the other anons are saying about waiting 5 years and selling it for ~6k and buying another car. i'm glad you understand though
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>>17870495
That's a pretty good plan. Since you got the 6spd you will be able to have a surprising amount of fun in it so don't get discouraged yet. If you don't like the look just tell everyone to fuck off and rice it out lol (leave things so you can turn back to stock to sell though)
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>>17870517
all i want is tint cause it gets fucking hot since the interior is black and wheels cause i still have hubcaps and and and maybe an intake. that all adds up to less than a grand and i have 5 years to accomplish it.
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>>17864855
>wahhh I didn't get the exact car I wanted from my mommy and daddy WAHHHHH
Fuck off you faggot
If your car doesn't die every other week and burns less oil than it does gas consider yourself winning.
My first car blew a head gasket 3 weeks after I bought it
>oh Northstar how I loathe thou
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>>17867483
This for sure
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>>17870486
Not OP here, again.
Not that I got something luxury or brand new, but got Golf Mk4. Problem is - I wanted some japan shitbox, because its simple, reasonably economical if petrol engine. Japan econoboxes from 90s have something in themselves. Something mysterious, cool that I cannot explain. I WANT that FUCKING RATTLING CAN SOUND, I WANT that disgusting wind blowing in my ear while driving 60kmh+. I want to feel absolute zero comfort and luxury. Raw vehicle with minor improvements like ABS and some airbags. Now that I got Golf mk4 petrol. The engine is shit - I mean it runs alright, but fuel consumption is huge for what it offers power-wise. Gearboxes on all VW mk4 platform is absolute shit, cant operate it normally, always screeks, gets stuck and shit. Its quite heavy for a hatchback too. My "first" car was Mazda - holy fuck that 72hp shitcan made me smile every time I got in it. Reason why I didn't got japan shitbox, is because majority of them are rusty and our climate aint pretty, so rust will spread even faster, thus its not great investment. But I'd rather get some bodywork done, something thats clearly visible and is easily reachable to repair , instead of mechanical issues that really is pain in ass to symptomise (?) and work on. Well, now it'll be probably too late for a shitbox to purchase and I will probably buy some unreliable German premium like the rest of people do.
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>tfw I saved up a huge chunk of money and my parents offered to bridge the gap if I can't find anything worthwhile in my price range, so long as the car is safe enough and isn't too old.

Ended up getting an MR-S as my first car. Didn't snap oversteer it, and it still looks as pretty as when I first bought it.
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>>17870076
>23 now

Yep, definitely not. That or I'm a total loser. Meh, who knows.
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>>17864882
This. Most parents (mothers) think manuals are more dangerous since they dont have the stop and go simplicity of a golf cart.

Op considere your self lucky you got a free manual car. You at least have the ability to use most of the 127hp that nissan as to offer. If it was a cvt you would be in the double digits of whp and really hating life.

T. Owner of a cvt lancer with 155hp at crank and 109hp at the wheels
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>>17871759
My parents bought me a jetta tdi as my first car. I really wanted a Japanese econobox as my first car and was in yhe process of saving up for one, and my parents bought me a volkswagen. I hated it at first, but I learned to love it, since after all, it was free. Gonna add some simple mods after I hit 300k when I will rebuild the engine.
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>>17865520
This.

After saving some money drive your parents car to the dealership, buy a shitbox you want and tell your parents to pick up the nissan. This will start the process of leaving the parents house
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>>17865046
4AGE
Red top, Pre 1989, 115 to the crank and 89 to the wheels

Post 1989 130ish
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>>17867484
Pretty much this.

I got my 1999 4Runner so i can pretty much do exactly like Annon here
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>>17871911
Sexy lookin' Jetta, anon, want one too. Always liked sedans, really got bored of seeing wagons and hatches all the time here in Yurop. Now speaking about Golf - I don't hate it. Its by far probably the best choice for someone who wants cheap, reliable, economical and practical car. Lots of cheap shit, relatively easy to work on, shitloads of spare parts on junkyards. I do like Golfs, but I've always wanted to try Jap car. Time never stops and with each day theres less and less old shitboxes in existence. And those that in perfect condition are skyrocketing in prices.
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>>17868947
And vice versa
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>>17864855
You should be grateful you spoiled fuck
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Op you sound like a spoiled pos. When I was 18 I worked my fucking ass off in the summer to buy a shitty nissan scentra. I continued to work my ass off until I could afford a nicer car. I also played soccer so there's not a big excuse for you... be appreciative you even have a car
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>>17872047
I know exactly when you mean. My jetta is great but sometimes I fantasize about buying some old jdm (jzx100 chaser, 180sx) and learning to drift. There's even a sr20det swapped 86 for sale locally and I could afford it. But insurance would be put the ass for my age group and I'm in university and can't afford the extra cost.
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>>17872202
Damn, those are dope cars that cost a fortune lol. I'd like something cheaper like 4th gen Civic, Mazda 323, Mitsu Colt, Nissan Almera or something along those lines. And yep, same shit, insurance is fucking crazy. My country's insurance just rocketed and is still growing right now. I'd pay probably like 2-2.5x times of actual car worth.
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