Mercedes AMG Project One

>>17859232
looks gross

>>17859232

It will be treated like a DD car, according to AMG Boss.

Valkyrie requires a support crew and dedicated lubricants to run it. Project one doesn't need them.

>>17859232
Literally nothing about this car says "Mercedes" to me.

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>>17859288
At one point I did ask myself why Mercedes hadn't done too much in the mid-engine department of things, guess this is why

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>>17859232
It's looks like if a McLaren and a Bugatti had some kind of weird lovechild.

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>>17859288
To me, It's a modern day CLK-GTR. Turned up to 11.

>>17859232
getting strong 918 vibes here

>V6

>>17859302
It just has absolutely no shared design language with other Mercedes, the nose is too slanted, the headlights are too angular and lack the dual bulb look, and most importantly, the badge isn't center on the grill.

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>>17859312
I see some influences from this concept.

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>>17859232
>F1 derived powerplant

>>17859313
It can go over 400 km/h.

According to AMG boss Tobias Moers claims it achieves a thermal efficiency of 43%. By comparison, the thermal efficiency of AMG’s existing twin-turbocharged 4.0-litre V8 is put at 25%.

>thermal efficiency of 43%
>mere 1.6 liter V6
>0-200 kmh under 6 seconds
>400+ km/h

Sounds like real Kraut Space Magic

>>17859347
Don't forget it is a DD car.
Impressive.

>>17859302
Honestly there will never be another car that has the same kind of design philosophies the GT1 projects had

I see some similarities here and there with the project one but its far too comfortable looking

>>17859302
except the CLK-GTR was a race car, this is just another toy for rich arab oil princes

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>>17859347

>1.6L V6

wat

>>17859380
>>17859313
Least it isn't a truck engine this time

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>>17859332
>1.6 V6 identical to the one they're using in F1, only mildly detuned
>MGU-H
>MGU-K
How much many more F1 power unit parts would it need to have to convince you?

>>17859397
no man you don't get it he watched several youtube videos he knows what hes talling about

>>17859397
>detuned
>1000hp

>>17859413

added some gerenerative tech that's illegal in F1 but detuned the ICE

>>17859380
It must be an amazing engine because Project One confirms as a street car that happens to have F1 technology.

>AMG Boss says “Because of the F1-derived technology used by the new car, prospective buyers have been asking if they will require a support crew or dedicated lubricants to run it. My answer is always no. It will be a street car. You keep it plugged in in the garage. You fill it with fuel. That’s it.”

see >>17859347
It can revs to 11k rpm!

>>17859408
Nope. They had it for long time. Check out its F1 seasons.

>>17859413
Well yeah, they limited it to 11,000 RPM from 15,000 RPM, and it can last 50,000 km. It really only has 750 hp. The current AMG-Mercedes F1 PU is estimated to be able to produce 1,200 hp, when the battery is fully charged and the KERS and MGU-K are delivering full power on a straight with overtake mode and qualifying fuel mix. This one also only lasts for maybe a quarter of an F1 season (1,500 km).

>>17859232
Looks like a lambo

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>>17859476
>the mid engined corvette will also have a v6

>>17859499
Ford confirmed way ahead of their time once again

>>17859459

I've heard estimates of 1000+ hp but never 1200. citation needed.

>>17859382
>>17859426

If I am paying that much for a hypercar I want a god damn fire-breathing V12 that can push-start the Earth. I want to be able to start the engine and convert the rear tires to smoke by so much as thinking about first gear.

I'm sure the technology is impressive and the performance is there but that's a huge fucking let down.

>>17859384 Truck engines have powered some of the world's fastest and most ridiculous cars to the front line, the original days of hot rodding were done by finding big truck engines and stuffing them in tiny cars, and diesel engines are something Mercedes have been considered gods at. The original 5-cyl diesel from the 190E is known for its reliability.

I don't know, yeah I'm sure this thing is faster than hell but I remember the days of V12 Formula One cars and the cars spawned from it were hysterical god-machines.

Jesus, this looks like shit from the front.
Rear is ok, derivative from a lambo, with less exhaust tips, yet, decent.
But the front? What the flying fuck.

>>17859232
They should really just embrace the sharkmobile look and put some gill shaped vents behind the front wheels, used fin shaped spokes, made the front end a little pointier, and worked some pointy teeth into the grille.

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>>17859514
>I remember the days of V12 Formula One cars and the cars spawned from it were hysterical god-machines
V10 era was best era tbqh

>>17859476
wrong again. Unless you mean Ford copied MB.
>what is Mercedes F1 W05 Hybrid - first 1.6 liter V6
It came in 2014
>3.5 liter twin-turbocharged EcoBoost V6 engine 647 hp
It came in the concept stage in 2015 and the final production in 2016.

get rekt

>>17859545
Ford was the first to put their turbocharged racing V6 engine into a production supercar
MB copied Ford
sperg more tho

>>17859499
Then it is not real corvette.
GM probably learnt a lot from watching F1, especially to MB and then Ford.

>>17859530

If I could afford it I wouldn't buy it, I'd rather have a La Ferrari if I had to have one hypercar.

>>17859535

absolutely, the V10 era was the best of them all, Alfa also had that 156 sleeper with the F1 V10

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>>17859566
>1000 hp V6
>loses to a 4 cylinder BMW
hahahha AHAHHAHAHAHA

>>17859617
>Ford/Cosworth
>anything but GOAT

>>17859355
Germans have a higher maintenance threshhold for what qualifies as a DD.

If germans were all motorcyclists, they'd find KTM two strokes acceptable grocery getters.

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>>17859562
>Ford was the first to put their turbocharged racing V6 engine into a production supercar
sauce?
>>17859566
>Cosworth TEC (GBA) V6 Turbo
Implying it is related to 3.5 EcoBoost V6 twin-turbo.

>In 1984, McLaren-Porsche did it first with 1.5-litre TAG turbocharged V6 650+HP.
https://drivetribe.com/p/mclaren-porsche-911-with-tag-f1-dW6VWPVZTu-eYSRrFRFb7w?iid=DWVRr1DVSXawSSt9IyX3Ug

>>17859676
Then Cosworth isn't Ford

>>17859696
Cosworth is owned by Ford tho
sperg more

>F1 derived powerplant

>>17859408
>3.5 EcoBoost V6 twin-turbo
>1.6 turbocharged V6 engine

Lower litre is better, then MB win.

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>>17859232
>There were only ever two contenders for Newey: a V6 twin-turbo and a naturally aspirated V12. “I did some homework and came to the conclusion that weight wise there’s wasn’t much between them, in terms of cooling requirements the V6 was worse, in terms of sound the V6 was worse and it would vibrate too much if you solid-mounted it to the chassis. Technically and emotionally the V12 was the better solution."

>“Some at Aston liked the idea of a V12, but wanted to use a derivative of the One-77 engine, but it wouldn’t produce the power we needed. The other group said it should be a V6 twin-turbo. It almost broke the deal, because we said we wouldn’t do it unless it was a bespoke V12, made by Cosworth.”

>"It also needed to be capable of extreme performance, therefore small and light (he calls the McLaren P1, LaFerrari and Porsche 918 “big, clumsy and heavy”) and intimidating, like the very fastest superbikes. It also needed to be, in his words, “a piece of art.”

Mercedes F1 V6 vacuum cleaner with heavy AWD torque vectoring wankery and Petronas sponsorship stripes signifying the worst era of F1 vs F1 God Adrian Newey designing a ground effect 1130hp V12 monster, engineered by Red Bull Racing and funded by Aston Martin with the goal of beating the fastest lap of the 2016 British Grand Prix, because the Mercedes F1 that set the time was slow and uninspiring.

This will probably destroy the Mclaren P1 GTR. It has about as much power, but with AWD torque vectoring, no F1 turbo tecnology and by the looks, way more advanced aero.

>>17859736
>>17859733
No longer in 2004. Look up its cosworth history

http://www.cosworth.com/about/company-history/

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>>17859776
>Valkyrie requires a support crew and dedicated lubricants to run it. Project one doesn't need them.

You know that Project one is way faster than Valkyrie, which is all about muh V12 sound and inconvenient maintenance.

>>17859797
my point is that they are not related. you autistic.

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>>17859797
There's no way someone can be this stupid.

>>17859803
Ford owned Cosworth in the 80's tho?????
they are related, sperg more

>>17859808
give me the sauce that 3.5 EcoBoost V6 twin-turbo is built by Cosworth.
sperg more
>>17859810
sperg more

>>17859815
see >>17859823
sperg more

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>>17859796
Valkyrie is more powerful, lighter, has ground effect downforce out the ass, and doesn't require a support crew no matter how much you repeat it. It's just as much of a daily driver.

>"As for the sound it will make when it first clears its lungs… shrieky should cover it. Newey insisted that it had to be a twelve-into-one exhaust system, rather than two six-into-ones because “that makes it sound like it’s revving twice as high as it actually is.”

>>17859823
You are correct. They are not related.

>Roush Yates Engines and Ford Performance have partnered together to develop the twin-turbo Ford EcoBoost V6 race engine

https://roushyates.com/engines/ford-ecoboost-v6-race-engine/

MB is indeed the first to put it into a production hypercar.

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>>17859312

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>>17859426
not exactly the first time a F1 inspired engine is put into a road car

>>17859834
sounds good. What about the result? nothing? cuz it is not ready yet?

>>17859860

Neither is the MB. It's an unfinished showcar at this time, just like the Aston.

>>17859869
>It's an unfinished showcar at this time
I was told it is ready to go cuz it is a production.

Keep sperging more

MB is better than Ford.

Got triggered? please sperg more.

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>>17859332
What it's not like that's fucking new for a car manufacture. Want to get technical this sexy sumbitch had one. Derived doesn't mean exactly the same.

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>>17859979
>Ford f1 constructor wins: 10
>M-B f1 constructor wins: 6
By engine

Let me know when Ford as constructor, not just engine, is the F1 Grand Prix winner. sperg more

ITT: clueless fuckwits learn that F1 has been running hybrid V6s as of late

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>>17859776
Valkyrie looks smaller. Feet are pointed inward for those ground effects

>>17860153
>no airbags on Valkyrie
>Valkyrie confirms as a only track car

It explains why Valkyrie needs to be supervised by the support team.

>>17860192
Going from track mode to fully street legal (including the U.S.) involves changing the tires, bonnet, and steering wheel.

>1.6L V6
>6.5L V12 (by Cosworth)
I hope the Valkyrie is faster for that reason

>>17859265
Is that an Audi

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>>17859317

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>>17860493
no, but I get you. MB and Audi are the legends of the Silver Arrow.

>>17860493
No its actually the all new 2018 Chevrolet Malibu

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>>17860574
obvious bait

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>>17859777
Well, its half a decade old, so they'd better be able to beat the P1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du8h0Rs6Hp0

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>>17859373
>hypercar/supercar design language will never be this simplistic and refined ever again

kill me

>>17863101

yeah it's a lot more effective now

>>17859232
>be Mercedes AMG
>hear Aston Martin plans to make an F1-derived road car
>make deal with Aston Martin and supply AMG engines to them
>create this

Poetry.

I'm sure the MB will be a better all-around car and probably faster. It was a strange and funny decision to do all this but realistically whichever car is superior, MB-AMG wins. They've stacked the table.

>>17859232
i'd unironically dedicate my life to learning how to design a single bolt for a car like that