Alfa Romeo Storys

The Giulia competes with the 3-Series, not the 2-Series. You wouldn't have been able to afford a 3-Series either.

>>17845371
They are literally only bought by people who love alfa romeo, not for objective reasons

>saved 35k
How.

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>>17845380
>plenty of 335i in my area for under 35k
I bought the m240i because it's the better car in terms of weight and powe. Could also bought 328i, 330i and 335i in the same price range.

>>17845397
I have a good payed job and inherited the house of my grandpa. Never financed a car so I can keep pretty much anything I earn for me.

>>17845371
>looking for a nice sporty DD
>wanted to buy Giulia
You should be glad you didn't.
You can't even fully disable traction control on the non-Quadrifoglio Giulia, what a shit car.

>>17845397
it takes a few years, but just cutting costs wherever you can. stop buying alcohol, buy no-name goods instead of name-brand stuff, take meticulous care of stuff so you don't need to worry about repair costs, buy a cheap phone plan etc etc.

>>17845546
i am a 21 year old male making some money but spending even more and this post really made me think. thanks anon.

>>17845535
I really don't get the idear behind the placement of the Veloce. In the segment of 280-330 hp sedans is pretty much every other competitor a better deal. I place the following cars over the Gulia:
>BMW 330i/335i/340i
>Mercedes C43AMG
>Jaguar XF 35t
>Audi S3 Sedan

>>17845551
I was like that as well. when you first get independence and a fairly steady cash flow its easy to overspend. I think it's a mistake everyone needs to make though.

>>17845560
guess you pay for exclusivity and shit.
the Quadrifoglio costs about $10k more than the M3 too.

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>>17845371

Not necesarilly Alfa Romeo story but overpriced story
>Fiancee decides to get rid of the hatchback and get a saloon
>She will pay for half of it, and I get to choose a larger petrol engine.
>Have a look at the B6 Passat 2.0 FSI, it starts at 6.500 euros. Abit steep but fair enough.
>Have a look at the B6 Passat 1.8 TSI, starts at 7.000 euros. Fuck
>Have a look at the Mk 2 Octavia 1.8 TSI, starts at 6.500 euros. What the shit
>Have a look at the Mk 2 Octavia 1.6 MPI ( the base one ), start at 5.500 euros. This is b/s
>Have a look at the Toyota Avensis T27 1.8 vvt-i, starts at 8.000 euros. Is this retarded ?
>Have a look at the Mk 4 Mondeo 2.0 Duratec, starts at 8.000 euros but atleast it is always in Ghia spec, sometimes Titanium.
>Have a look at the Alfa 159. Couldn't find anything
>Have a look at the W204 C Class. Starts at 8000 euros but you do get quite abit of car for that money.

Finally, we settled for a 2007 E90 318i for which we paid 5.800 euros.
Now, how in the actual fuck can a bare-bones Skoda Octavia, with a 102 bhp 1.6 petrol engine, cost more than a mid-range BMW 3 series ?

>buying italian cars
>buying south italian cars

>>17845638
>318i
>mid range
sorry anon the 318i isn't mid range, it's the 2nd slowest model after the 316i. mid range would be a 320i or 325i

>>17845661

There's very little difference between the 318i and the 320i ( same engine, only 14 bhp difference - or 27 bhp for the facelift ), but yea I'd say the 325i is more of a mid-range.
It's still much better equipped than a basic 1.6 mpi Octavia.

Are used Skoda people so retarded ?

>>17845638
>>17845685
Is there a big difference in fuel economy between the 318 and the cars you listed? I have a feeling the normie mindset of MUH MPGS would make them pay thousands more for something that saves them a few pennies a month on fuel.

>>17845685
The problem is that your list dosent account the mileage, the condition and the age of the car. Of course a 2011 Skoda Octavia with a lower mileage will cost more then a 2007 BMW 3series.

>>17845702
The difference is very marginal. It is really stupid to think about mpg when discussing anything less than V8. People actually think it will make a difference when in reality it doesn't fucking matter as long as it's not a V8, V10,V12. If they really care about gas they should get a prius.

For example, I found a great A6 for my friend and he turned it down at first because of muh mpg, said he wanted the A4 with a 4 cylinder. Then I reminded him that he'd be paying the same money for a shittier car in every way just to get literally 3 more mpg. It's just ignorance really.

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>>17845702

Most 2 litre petrol engines get 22-28 mpg ( that's 10-12 l/100km ) in city driving and 40-45 mpg outside of the city ( 6-7l/100km )

>>17845716
2005 Octavia mk II 2.0 FSI 150 bhp with 134.000km 5.999 euros ( those km's are rolled back most probably )

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=241292324&categories=Limousine&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&fuels=PETROL&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=22900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=10&minCubicCapacity=1600&minPrice=5000&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&transmissions=MANUAL_GEAR


2005 BMW E90 318i 129 bhp 145.000km ( probably rolled back too ) 5.000 euros

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=246952279&categories=Limousine&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&fuels=PETROL&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=9&minCubicCapacity=1600&minPrice=5000&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&transmissions=MANUAL_GEAR

I don't think that the Octavia is worth 1.000 euros more than the 318i.

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>>17845734
That BMW is pretty much naked without any extras. Also this is cherry picking from one example. Checked it my self and pretty much every skoda Octavia is cheaper then the BMW 3 series with same age and mileage.

>>17845784

>implying the Octavia is loaded with kit
>implying I'm cherry picking

>2007 318i with toys on it, 175k km, 5500 euros
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=248153627&categories=Limousine&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&fuels=PETROL&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=3500&makeModelVariant1.modelId=9&minCubicCapacity=1600&minPrice=5000&pageNumber=3&scopeId=C&transmissions=MANUAL_GEAR&fnai=prev

Skoda Octavia II 1.8TSI 2007 112k km 6500 euros. It doesn't even have electric rear windows.
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=246027578&categories=Limousine&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&fuels=PETROL&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=22900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=10&minCubicCapacity=1600&minPrice=5000&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&transmissions=MANUAL_GEAR

Skoda Octavia II 1.8 TSI 2008 120k km 6900 euros
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=233123340&categories=Limousine&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&fuels=PETROL&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=22900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=10&minCubicCapacity=1600&minPrice=5000&pageNumber=2&scopeId=C&transmissions=MANUAL_GEAR&fnai=prev

2006 Octavia 1.8TSI 91k km 6950 euros
https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=248744302&categories=Limousine&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&fuels=PETROL&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=22900&makeModelVariant1.modelId=10&minCubicCapacity=1600&minPrice=5000&pageNumber=2&scopeId=C&transmissions=MANUAL_GEAR&action=eyeCatcher

So yeah, I'm not exactly cherry picking, retard.

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>Alfa Romeo stories
>BMW faggots and cuckbreaker filling the thread with their insecurity and cries

An ordinary day on /o/

>>17846004
did you not read the OP?
He was complaining how Alfas are overpriced shit cars.

>>17846004

>literally retaded.

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>>17846009
A Toyota GT86 costs 30.000€ and that faggot wants a Giulia with an AWD traction and a 2.0 280 hp ZF8hp engine/transmission basically full optional with top of the segment handling and driving pleasure to costs only 5000€ more than that.

Someone is delusional to the max.

See pic related

>>17845371
It's a whole different segment, dummy.

>>17845397
Not surprisingly an american is confused by the idea that not all the money you have available gotta be spent.

>>17845702
>Petrol engine
>Fuel economy
Wanting a petrol engines implies you don't care about shitty gas mileage, otherwise you'd be considering a diesel one.
It's a false economy going for a smaller engine of a big sedan, the weight will kill the economy even more than if fitted with a larger one.

>>17845371
Lol middle class who is looking for DD/weekend car.
Not getting dedicated car for each, sounds more like lower middle class.

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>>17845546
>stop buying alcohol
or just buy this bad boy

>>17846371
sounds like you're not european and you don't know we're cucked with taxes on cars

>>17845397
stop being poor
>>17846285
nigga americans are richer than us

>>17846402
2nd car gets penaltized that much ?

>>17846446
It doesn't exist a tax for second cars, the thing is that we have to pay yearly insurance, yearly possession tax (in some countries), expensive gas and shit.

Also unlike in USA for the most part of the week the car stays in the garage as we use public transportation, that's why people who use their car to go to work and back home tries to acquire a nice car that is both comfortable and fun to drive in the spare time.

The problem is that since they're ignorant they end up buying diesels Audi A4 and base trim Bmw 320d.

>>17846428
>nigga americans are richer than us

They aren't, they just have lower taxes than us.

This may sound good, and indeed is, but I wouldn't give up my universal healthcare taxes so I can have a nice car because if I'll get cancer or some expensive shit to cure then I'll be broke. For instance.

Points of view.

>>17845570
No it doesn't. When you add all the options that the Quadrifoglio has standard to the M3, the M3 costs more.

A fully loaded Quadrifoglio is $88k while a fully loaded M3 is around $100k

>>17845371
Stories*

>>17846522
OY VEY DELET

>>17846063
>top segment handling and driving pleasure
>can't even disable traction control
Lmfao the giulia is fucking trash.

>>17846522
The standard M3 is better equipped than the standard Giulia. You don't even get full leather on the Quadrifoglio.

>>17846625
Meanwhile a BMW 3 series understeer even with traction control disabled.

Also disabling traction control on public roads

>underage detected

>>17846636
>talks about driving pleasure
>unironically defends permanently enabled traction control
Alfa fanboys are fucking retarded.
The 3 series has a 50/50 weight balance and is way lighter than the pigfat Giulia so it outhandles the alfa every day of the week.

>>17846631
Nice bait. I'll bite. Here's a list of the reasons why you're a dumbass.

1. Why would you want leather in a sports car?
2. You have to pay extra for the extended leather in the M3, it's not standard
3. Alcantara is better than leather, which the Quadrifoglio has plenty of
4. You don't even get LED headlights, apple car play, or navigation standard on the M3. All these things are standard on the Quadrifoglio.
5. You have to get the M3 competition pack to even compare the two cars

>>17846631
Oh and the M3 doesn't even have parking sensors, a back up camera, or heated seats standard. All things that you get standard with the Quadrifoglio. You're basically just paying for a shell with an engine with the BMW.

>>17846683
You could've at least googled ''M3 standard equipment'' or something first.
1. It is a sports saloon not a sports car. The 4c is a sports car.
2. You get extended merino leather as standard on the M3
3. Nice opinion
4. You get LED headlights as standard, you get navigation as standard and the Giulia doesn't even support Apple Carplay lmfao.
5. Even with the Competition Pack the M3 is still cheaper than the standard Giulia Q.

>>17846704
Why are you making up facts? You need the cold weather package to get heated seats on the Giulia and you do get parking sensors on front and rear on the base M3 but you only get rear sensors as standard on the Giulia Q lmao.
In order to get front sensors you need to get the Driver Assistance Package

>>17846726
1. Doesn't matter. It's designed to be fast and practical, i.e. weigh less
2. You're just wrong
3. It's not an opinion. Please name any benefits that leather has over alcantara.
4. Go to the M3 configurator. You have to pay extra for LED headlights and if you would do even the smallest amount of research you would see that android auto and apple car play are getting added standard in 2018 as well as the Harmon Kardon sound system and early collision warning system.
5. Even with the competition pack you still have a bare bones BMW with a shitty manual transmission.

I feel like I've lost IQ points reading your rebuttal

>>17846739
Have you seen the Quadrifoglio configurator like at all? There is no cold weather package dumbass. It's all standard here in the U.S

>ITT: BUTTHURT BMW FANS

As predicted

>>17846757
Yeah they indeed are going to add more standard features because nobody is buying the autotragic unreliable italian saloon with no brand recognition for the money.
I am reading the brochures with all equipment and packages.
You don't get LED headlights on the Giulia but xenon headlights, same as the M3.
Anyway I just built a better optioned M3 for $74.100 with the superior DCT transmission (the giulia uses a torque converter lmao), full leather upholstery and the Competition Package, which is 505 dollars more (Giulia Q MSRP $74.595)
There is an option to remove the leather seats then it would cost $73.150.
So even with a DCT and Competition Package the M3 is still cheaper than the base Quadrifoglio.

>>17846794
Edit: you actually do get LED headlights as standard in the 2018 M3 but xenon is still standard on the Giulia Q lmao
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/BYO/standardfeatures.aspx?mobileoverride=true&NaModelCode=18TN

>>17845401
>comparing three years old used cars to an almost brand new one
You're literally moving the goalposts just so you can continue defending BMWs.

>>17846802
Reading further: the M3 also has a backup camera, harman kardon audio, and you also get dynamic cruise control as standard.
My point still stands the M3 is cheaper and better equipped at the same time.

>>17845401
i really fucking doubt those l/km numbers, unless drive dont drive in a city at all

>>17846398
Is that Chav rocket fuel?

>>17845638
i bought 2009 audi a3 quattro 2.0 tfsi, in fairly good state for 6200 euros like half year back.
Honestly pretty good car, with almost all the extras, panoramic roof thing, heated seats.. only thing annoying is 10l/100km thing, since i drive mostly in city.
I guess thats why these weaker engines has higher prices. Normies pay few thousands more to say few hundreds each year on fuel..

>>17846835
You're projecting your frustrations on the car's standard gadget features when the only thing that count is how the car feels and handles, how it can be used on normal roads maybe as a daily drive and you know that from this point of view the Giulia outperforms the BMW, it has been universally stated from car enthusiasts to journalists.

Of course if you're a benchracer who buys a car based on its time on track you won't be satisfied and you'd go with the badgewhore option so you can be sure nobody will bully you.

>>17846895
>AWD
>drive mostly in city
>complain about fuel efficiency

People like you are the most retarded out of the world idiots ever.

With that kind of use why did you bought that engine first?

Just buy a fucking Prius if you only drive in city because you don't need 211 hp and AWD for your home <---> mcdrive daily trip

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OP here. I'm happy that I bought the m240i because it's just a lot faster then the Alfa and the 6 cylinder sound makes me happy every day again.

>>17846658
>driving pleasure is having your traction control disabled

TOP KEK

This is how you feel in your understeering 3 series, because if you only managed to leave your basement and went to test drive a Giulia you would have found that no matter the traction control, this car handles way better since it has a near perfect suspension setup and you can even add an LSD if you want.

Put the driving selector in DYNAMIC and enjoy the oversteer tendency without having to disable a thing that a sane normal person on today's road won't touch since we don't live in your fucking chinese drift cartoon

>>17846911
awd is great in winter season, also im not really complaining i would be saving like 15euros a month if i bough diesel instead of petrol, but this was good deal car is basically full kit, if i bought a diesel, for example 2009 golf with barely any kit i would have paid 7000euros.

its honeslty just a brain thing, and thats why normies buy more expensive diesel, think they save on fuel and then spend the money saved on car maintenance since they bough a diesel instead of petrol.

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>>17846658
>driving pleasure
>buys a 4 doors family saloon

This is the Alfa Romeo you want for driving pleasure.

>B-BUT MUH AUTOMATIC GEARBOX

>>17846896
>moving goalposts
The M3 is more enjoyable from day to day because the interior quality is better and the actual build quality is notably better.
Journalists don't keep the cars for too long they don't have to deal with the Alfas awful reliability.
Also the Giulia Q comes with 60 treadwear tyres as standard which makes the car dangerous to use on wet conditions.

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>>17846947
>The M3 is more enjoyable from day to day because the interior quality is better and the actual build quality is notably better.

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Confirmed mongoloid who never tested a Giulia and never will do.

>>17846947
exactly buying alfa for daily use is suicide, your car will be more broken down, than you actually can use it.
If you want reliable sport luxury sedan buy bmw/audi.

>>17846947
>if the car has softer plastics then it's better to use everyday

Meanwhile every single living reviewer praised the Giulia Q suspension setup for being comfy and top tier at the same time when it comes to performance drive.

One can tell that you were brainwashed by german marketing when you call things like plastics quality and softness...what next, the lcd screen dimensions?

>>17846954
if you want no squeaks/etc in interior, buy audi.
my dad has 370k audi a4, no fucking squeaks at all, car interior is built to last.

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I don't understand why there are so many threads complaining about Alfas

>>17846794
> (the giulia uses a torque converter lmao)

Thanks for proving that you know absolutely nothing about cars

>>17846990
It's just that Alfa Romeo teared many asses apart and this hurt both fanboys/mentally ill owners and the same German makers, so internet is full of trolls spitting on the Italian brand and the professional (((journalists))) are on full rampage claiming spectacular failures (without stating what happened apart from the CEL light) and unreliability.

One should have learnt the lesson after this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pVF1Wr7GLQ

This was a maximum butthurt attempt to hurt the sales of the Fiat 500 in Germany claiming that the little car was unsafe making this buttshit biased crash test to project.

Auto motor und sport and ADAC (the government organization behind the dieselgate which approved these cars to be legally sold because "ecological") are the signals to understand what really is behind this.

What happened next? Nothing.

The Fiat 500 is still the best selling vehicle in its own class and nobody is buying the dishwasher opponent called Volkswagen UP! which of course hasn't been tested in a made up crash test like UP! vs freight truck

>>17845371
why would you not look at the prices before you went all the way to the dealer

>>17847046
Because it's a made up story to talk shit about Alfa Romeo while looking retarded at the same time.
He probably drives a skoda or something.

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>mfw BMW guys swear they are relevant and think us Alfa guys care for a second what they think

Your girlfriend is cheating on you btw

>>17846398
>extra strength

lmao is this even for drinkkng

>>17847083
talking about irrelevance.
Literally nobody is buying the Giulia in the U.S because it's an unreliable overpriced shitheap.
It's like 3 people shilling for the Giulia here.

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>>17847046
I called them and they told me he has one for 36k but it was the shitty basic engine with 200(?)hp even when I asked for the Veloce. I don't give a fuck about what you guys think. I drive a car now what is a lot faster and at least a real rwd car. Also the resale value of the Alfa is pretty much a financial suicide.

>>17847106
Keep posting. I'm enjoying laughing at your stupidity.

>>17847083
I don't get the dick measuring contest itt

Some people love alfa and some people love bmw, no amount of autistic screeching is going to make people suddenly change their taste. Also jokes on you I don't have a girlfriend :^)

>>17847108
>I don't give a fuck what you guys think
>gets mad and considers what we think

Okay pal

>>17847117
Why the fuck would anyone buy a shitty M3 knockoff when it's slower and more expensive than the real thing.
OH wait nobody is buying the Giulia lmfao.

>>17847108
>200 hp multiair
>0-100 in 6,6 seconds
>slow engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJNQRBxZUE

Yeah cry more you basement dweller

>>17847150
Yeah I mean I wouldn't buy one, I prefer the M3. But some people really love alfa and will buy them regardless, no point in dissuading them anon. People have differing tastes after all.

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>>17847166
>BMW m240i
>0-100 4.7 seconds
>0-200 15.8 seconds
>6 cylinder sound
Yeah I really chose the wrong car for the same price.

>>17847189
You stupid piece of shit said that the 2.0 multiair engine of the Giulia was slow and I proved it isn't.

Stop acting like a children and post a picture of your car please, we're so eager to see it and every gadget it has.

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>>17847194
>posting my car on /o/ to a bunch jelly Alfa fags who just wait to talk shit about it
It is slow dude, needs douple the time to 200kph. They should call this engine "multishit". Selling a car with the same performance like an MK5 Golf GTI for over 30k. Sounds about right.

>>17846658
Not to mention that the giulia can't go 20 feet without breaking down

>>17845371
Seriously its like dealerships want to be put out of business.
>See Ford Focus RS Hatchback
>Muh awd
>Muh 350 hp
>muh 0 - 60 in 4.5 seconds
>36,500 msrp
>DEAL
>Look around area
>Cheapest one is 55,000
>WTF

Even now like a year or so later the cheapest one I can find in my area is the base model with no options going for 39,000.

Are you fucking kidding me?

>>17846945
You know for the money of a 4C you can get a superior M2 or Cayman with a proper manual gearbox.
>that pic
So one journalist complained about rattles and squeans and that makes the other 100 reviews invalid?

>>17847241
I know this feel.

I wanted the new S3 and I was prepared to go a few thousand over the msrp+options cause delaers got to make money but

I get to the fucking dealership and they have nothing close to what I want, after telling them firmly i dont want to spend 40 - 50k on a car that is the wrong options and wrong color I ask them to order me one.

Little shit in the sales team wastes an hour of my time going over the ordering process and getting everything setup, I knew from building the car online my price msrp would end up around 45k.

Little fuck face tells me the price is 55k

I just got up and left and told him to get fucked. I called Audi USA about it and they got super pissed at the dealership and ended up making it right but what the fuck man.

>>17847166
>0-60 in 6.6

my jetta could keep up with that piece of shit

>>17847241
>>17847286
>>17845371
The thing that piusses me off is that msrp ALREADY means the dealership is making money off the car. Why they suddenly need to tack on thousands BEFORE trying to con you into spending thousands more on dealership exclusive options is fucking beyond me.

I bought a toyota corolla once before i wasnt retarded about cars and managed to let the little shits spray some sort of tar on the under body to prevent rust. Car never needed that shit and it cost like 1000 bucks.

>>17847298
this

my fucking audi a4 from like 8 years ago could keep up with that. A fucking non sports 4 cylinder sedan thats the size of a boat.

>>17847298
it does 0-6 in less than 5.6 seconds dumb fuck.

>>17847286
My cardealer is on of my closest friends this makes things easy. But I know from him that dealerships life from draining every cent out of normies who don't know shit about cars. Especially old people don't compare prices on the internet and end up spending way too much.

Lmao the poor insecure italians get so overly defensive for Alfa these threads are always hilarious

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>>17847298
>my (mother's) jetta

People driving volkswagen have the guts to shittalk about an Alfa Romeo on a car enthusiasts board.

>A car enthusiast buys a Jetta

AYY LMAO

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>>17847318
at least he can fully disable traction control on his (mother's) jetta
Kek

>>17847318
Not op but the old vr6 and 1.8t jettas where pretty fucking fun for people just starting out.

>>17847327
>Not knowing Jalopnik is listed as a 'Related parties' vendor in german auto groups

>>17847298
An Audi A4, the luxurious Jetta, with a 2.0 TFSI @ 190 hp (10 less than the Alfa Romeo 2.0 200 hp) does the 0-100 km/h in 7,4 seconds.

A Mercedes C250 with 211 hp (11 more than the Alfa Romeo 2.0 200 hp) does the 0-100 in 6,5 seconds.

So what's your point besides looking clueless?

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>>17847339
Does that make the Giulia have a cheaply built interior?
Does that also make the Giulia break down every day of the week?

>>17847327
>disabling traction control with a car whose engine and weight exceeds the front wheels position

Do you want do die son?

>>17847349
Do alfa drivers even track day, bro?

>>17847346
Tell me again how can you say that the NEW Giulia is unreliable when it's out since when, 1 year at best?

>>17847346
>posts a random image with zero credibility

How about using an actual study cuck?
http://www.jdpower.com/press-releases/2017-vehicle-dependability-study

also bmw interior is shit, old and outdated.

the alfa interior is designed really well with cheap parts like BMW.

>>17847342
Hey fuck face, Audi owner here:

B8 A4 is around 8 years old has 211hp from factory and does 0 - 60 in 6.4 serconds on 2 TFSI

Do you need me to provide sources for your retard ass because you are too stupid to look this up?

>>17847356
>implying every other brand customers go track days with their premium saloon for the most part
>implying they do this with entry level engines

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>>17847362
>the alfa interior is designed really well with cheap parts like BMW.
What did he mean by this?

Also you're retarded if you think this is bad

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HOLY SHIT PLS KEEP POSTING GUYS IM LAUGHING MY ASS OFF RIGHT NOW.
This is better then the threads where amerifats get triggered about shitty camaros and mustangs. Alfa fags are my new favorite.

>>17847380
>Comparing a new M3 to the giulia.

You literally just proved how shitty the bmw 3 series is.
You didn't have the balls the post the bmw 328i interior.

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>>17847359
No other NEW car is as hilariously unreliable as the Giulia.
>>17847362
Did you even read that ''actual study''?
FCA products are at the rock bottom.
The BMW interior may be outdated (it's a 6 year old model) but it's still built way better with better materials.

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>>17847363
Stop with the bad words or I'll tell your mother about your language.

The current gen A4 2.0 TFSI comes in two different power levels: 190 or 252 hp with the latter reserved for the Quattro model.

>190 hp are for the base FWD A4
>200 hp are for the base RWD Giulia

Are you calmed down now kid?

>>17847380
Im too lazy to look this up but is the m3 in the same price range as the alfa?

I thought with just the basics like a decent stereo and shit the m3 was FAR more expensive.

>>17847312
sorry burger, I forgot you retards don't understand kmh

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>>17847380
>Being such a cuck he's ashamed of the bmw 3 series and instead posts a car in a different price bracket

>>17847380
>cherrypicking a limited edition M3 which celebrates the 30 years of the model

TOP FUCKING KEK

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>>17847387
What's the problem exactly?

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>>17847387
>new M3
Lmfao the M3 interior is the same as the 328i minus the seat and shifter design fucking retard.
Also
>this is the actual gearshift lever on the 2018 Giulia
LMFAO this shit for a $74k car are italiniggers serious

>>17847400
the amount of raw plastic on the M3 tunnel is embarassing

>>17847400
I didn't read the entire thread you tard, I assumed we were comparing m3 vs quadrifaglio

>>17847392
Please tell me the last time you saw a fucking FWD Quattro.

Im a fucking audi fag so i notice audis everywhere and I dont think I have ever SEEN a single one here in the midwest.

Also website says Starting A4 is 5.7 seconds... 5.2 if you go with the 252 engine.

>>17847400
>>17847416
that's not the M3 though

>>17847396
I know what 0 to 62 is you fucking retard.

>>17847402
Yeah that red and blue stitching makes it a totally different interior

>>17847380
Could you cherry pick any harder?

TOP FUCKING KEK

>>17847406
>>17847410

see
>>17847400

>>17847417
>FWD Quattro.
Ok a bit of sperging going on here

meant to say FWD A4

>>17847393
The base model alfa is more expensive, that's all I know, I assume both have options

>>17847428
>see
>>17847400
Do you realize that
>>17847400
is a Quadrifoglio vs a base model 3 series?
And you can't see fit and finish in pictures.
Even if the Alfas interior design is fine you feel how cheaply the interior is built only when you sit in it.

>>17847428
>people discussing the m3
>google m3 interior
>post m3 interior
>REEEEEEE CHEERY PICKING
>post 328i interior
>REEEEEEE CHERRY PICKING

okay, continue being retarded then

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Would buy an 328i over the Gulia 2.0 Multiair any day to be honest. The BMW is faster and cheaper at the moment. Maybe in 1-2 years when the Veloce drops in price I would look at Alfa again.

>>17847410
>he cares for the gear shifter when his preferred car has a glued tablet on top of the dashboard

Really makes you think.

So let's check again the facts in this thread, for the starters:

>Bmw supporters says that the 3 Series is more enjoyable as daily drive since it has better plastics and interior parts
>They don't mention things like the glued tablet or the ridiculous amount of plastic everywhere
>They don't mention the design inside the Giulia with an actually innovative decò display wich is inside and part of the dasboard
>They keep ignoring that the Giulia is the first try in 30 years of a premium saloon from a maker that has just started being revived and hasn't yet a complete range of cars and not even money to compete
>They forget that BMW milks their customers with things like FWD suvs and 2 series compact tourer
>They forget telling that the new 1 series will be FWD
>The Giulia's 2.0 multiair 200 hp is somewhat slow when if compared with the same engine from the opponents it accelerates faster considered the weight/power ratio
>The Giulia has a worse interior even if it uses the plastics and parts supplied from Faurecia which is the same supplier as the Bmw
>The Giulia has won a prestigious award* for its interior but BMW faggots won't tell you

*http://wardsauto.com/10-best-interiors/nothin-amor-alfa-romeo-giulia

>>17847441
Thank you for being reasonable unlike Alfa shills

>>17847417
Who the fuck cares if you didn't see them you dumb piece of shit?

America is not the entire world and in Europe we have a FWD 2.0 TFSI 190 hp Audi A4 and there's nothing you can do to cancel it.

>Im a fucking audi fag

No you're a fucking idiot

>>17847460
Are you seriously attacking the 2 series active tourer while Alfa has been producing nothing but FWD shit for the past 3 decades?

>>17847482
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zON4bWsl2Ek

Sorry?

>>17847422
apparently you don't

>>17847476
Youre the one who had the 0 - 60 off on the new a4 by a full second.

>>17847484
You just literally attacked BMW for building some FWD cars and now you're seriously defending FWD Alfas?
OMG italishills are the most annoying hypocrites ever

>>17847482
This is a perfect example of /o/'s doublethinking.

If it's a 3k FWD civic shitbox or an integra then it's the best car ever and the traction doesn't even matter, but if it's an Alfa Romeo, which are the best FWD handlers almost in every category, then they're shit.

I really don't know what to think.

>>17847501
Talk about double thinking, if alfa guys are such FWD fans why are they attacking BMW FWD cars like the upcoming FWD 1 series?
>>17847460

>>17847482
You don't understand since you're underage.

What I was saying is that BMW can milk their customerbase on overhyped and priced FWD shit heaps like the 2 Active Tourer so they can use part the revenues to develop better RWD cars.

They have so many models, it's normal at this point.

Alfa Romeo currently has the Giulia, the Stelvio, the Giulietta and the Mito with the latter being discontinued soon, and of course they sell a fraction of Bmw.

Alfa Romeo can't develop a better overall car in these condition but the fact that they came close to it tells many things about their capabilities.

>>17847515
Basically they sell to badgewhores just because they're BMW.

You can glue a BMW badge on a piece of shit and they'd sell it at a premium price, with many people buying it.

Alfa can't do the same thing because they have very few models and a reputation to build.

Is it clear now?

>>17847515
But the difference is that BMW is an independant company while Alfa is a FCA sub-brand.
BMW has to milk their customers or they will lose revenue.
Exactly the same with Mercedes - they have lots of cars in their lineup so they can keep making money.
Alfa is getting their money not from their own models but from FCA.

>>17845401
In case you didn't know, some people buy new cars.

Version A:
>Want a sedan
>buy a coupe
What did OP mean by this?

Version B
>Separate 1 series Coupe from the Hatchback
>Make 2 Series Sedans out of the Coupes
What did BMW mean by this

>>17847531
>implying FCA doesn't have debts

Also Alfa Romeo and Maserati will be a spin off very soon, like Ferrari.

>>17846285
At least murricans are allowed to keep more than half of their wages.

The more I see threads like these, the more I want to buy a Giulia.

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Im not getting any replies can someone reply to this post?? :/

me likes Giulia

>>17847563
judging by alfa and maserati sales figures in the U.S they will become like Lancia

@17847584
No (You)s, buddy

>>17847595
Another market expert on 4chan, wew lads.

It's been less than 1 year that their cars are on sale in the USA, they don't have an extended dealership network and the brand is not as famous as the competitors.

Give them time, the sales will eventually rise and nothing matters if they won't be as high as the german brands, the thing that eventually counts is that Alfa Romeo gains money and covers all the R&D costs for their cars.

Lexus in Europe sells like Alfa Romeo in USA but I don't read apocalyptic posts like yours on european forums about Lexus...

Another proof that you can sell very few vehicles but it's ok since you earn sufficient money to survive.

Audi fags

>>17847503

>>17847623
it's just that smaller FCA brands have been struggling hard recently.
Alfa nearly went bankrupt before FCA pumped all that money in it

>>17847626
Did you straight up make that whole thread for this reply?

>>17847636
Alfa Romeo was never saved by FCA because of bankrupt, they were surviving selling 70.000 vehicles per year and the 6 billions investment was to step up Alfa's game and make them again a proper premium brand which is not something that happens from day to day but requires years mainly to build the dealership network apart from cars.

The same happened to Maserati but that was a different story since every Maserati was hand built for a great part, even the ghibli and quattroporte even if not in the same measure.

They need to improve build quality and this requires many things, also Maserati needed a new production plant

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>Wanted to make a thread about Alfa Romeo story's and it turned in to a fucking comedy show
Thanks guys for saving my day. Had a lot of fun in this thread

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>>17847789
Yeah sure, with a premise like your "story" this outcome was totally unexpected :^)

>>17847106
Wouldn't buy the Alfa, but the reason the Alfa isn't selling well in the US is because they have 0 dealer network compared to the Germans and haven't been in the US for decades and they were trash when last imported.

>>17848252
can you explain what a dealer network is?

>>17845397
When you receive your paycheck. Do nothing.
Then you will notice the paychecks will add up.

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>>17845397
>be a nigger "refugee"
>go to germany
>do nothing
>get paid
>???
>PROFIT

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159 2.4JTDM Q4 for sale:

https://www.olx.pt/anuncio/alfa-romeo-159-2-4-jtdm-q4-ti-210-cv-IDAK55C.html#71b3ca45f3

Go check it out.
First thing the owner says when he arrives
>I'm going to be straight foward, this is leaking some oil
>some oil
I open the hood and the intake on the turbo compressor is drenched in oil, dripping to the floorpanel. I'm fucking amazed the car didn't had smoke coming out of the exaust.
>Oh, the Trizone AC isn't pumping cold air too.
I get on the ground and look below the back to check with my own eyes if it is at least a Q4.
It is.
I go for a ride, drives really good, tight gear shifts, close ratios, steering is a bit heavy.
>Whats the steering fluid color?
I ask
>humm...red/pink I think
Great, wrong fluid. They came from factory with the wrong fluid. Any good dealership or autoshop will use the green fluid Alfa started using.

So we stop and I try to lowball THE SHIT out of him.
>huh, I can't lower the price... You see. Me and my wife are getting divorce and the car is still being payed. I need the asking price to get rid of the credit.
>What is you monthly payment?
>190€ month, I have 5 years left.
I do quick math and the total is like 12k, 1.5k short of the asking price. I point it out.
>Credit company is screwing me on credit termination fees.
>What if I just get the car and the credit?
>You do me a favor. I just want to get rid of this all.
>Yeah... Ima think about that...

God dammit! The car is beautiful, top diesel spec. Why can't there be a pristine one for sale?!?

I'm really craving for a 159/Brera. I might do something stupid guys...

>>17845397

Invest in a diversified portfolio. Probably also what OP should have done with his wages, and buy a car with profit he got from his investments instead.

>>17849261
>go to your local mechanic
>pay him some money
>bring him with (you)
>let him inspect the 159
>listen to what he has to say about the car
>???
>the end

>>17849309
>go to your local mechanic
>pay him some money

Pay him money?
When he hears the words Alfa and Oil, He'll just start rubbing his hands.

>>17849261
>leaking oil
Working as intended. Alfas are leaking from the factory. You need one who is produced befor 12:00 a block because in there lunchbreak the workers in Italian factory's start drinking wine and the cars produced after the lunchbreak are worse in quality. (Not joking)

>>17845526
>good paying job
Okay.
>inherited house
Makes sense.

>>17845546
>stop buying alcohol
I don't.

>buy no-name goods
I pretty much already do that.

>take meticulous care of stuff so you don't need to worry about repair costs
Never had a repair cost of anything except my car but only spent like $400 in total on it so far.

>buy a cheap phone plan
It's $45 a month, it's pretty cheap.

>>17846285
Not the case, my job is shit and my rent is high.

>>17846428
I wish I could.

>>17849135
>do nothing
I don't live rent free. I wish I did. Rent is 825, I pay half, roommate pays the other half and the other bills. I only get paid twice a month with an average of 550. I help with groceries and sometimes the bills. I just simply don't make enough at my job to save.

>>17849306
I don't make enough money to invest honestly. By the time I do get my check, bills are due. Once I get my check where bills aren't due, I still have to stay alive. Thankfully I don't have to buy anything more for my car right now, so that'll help.

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>>17845397
lol i saved $29k in 13 months to get pic related. get a good paying job and its easy.

>>17851206
>get a good paying job and its easy
Yeah sure. But unlike you and OP, I don't have the privilege to get a good paying job.

I can't just walk in to an establishment and be like "Hey, let me speaker to the manager." "I'd like a job, what do you have available?"

I don't even have a GED baka, and I'm 21.

I'm literally fucked.

>>17851212
it has nothing to do with "privilege" and everything to do with the fact that you're an idiot.

>>17851241
>that you're an idiot
How? Because I didn't have good parents? Because I was too poor to get ahead in life?

None of that makes me an idiot, but okay. Then explain to me how I am suppose to get ahead in my position in life? Hm?

>>17851252
You dont even have a GED.
that has nothing to do with your parents or money.
You could walk into your local community college tomorrow and sign up to get a GED with financial assistance but you'd rather blame the privilege and parent boogieman because its easier.

>>17851268
Actually I am in the process of getting my GED. I was just noting that as a point of interest. But even with my GED, that won't guarantee me anything.

Shit it might not even give me more job opportunities honestly.

My only Romeo story was i nearly bought a used 147. Bought a Mazda 3 SP23 instead