/mg/ MIATA GENERAL best boy edition

ok so im buying a 1990 NA and I paid for an inspection. here's what they found:

>inb4
I have no vehicular knowledge and I just wanted to make sure I bought a mechanically sound car

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>>17840570

I hope this car is worth 100$ at best since its a walking dead of a car.

Bought a miata like 3 weeks ago.

Already changed slave cylinder. Fuel pump is whining. Gear changes are notchy. There is shudder when taking off from standstill. Consumption is 9-10l/100km. Heat shield and exhaust is rattling. Engine is oily. Brake fluid slowly leaks on the rear left wheel. Seats are uncomfortable and you can't heel and toe. Turn signal lever is hard to operate.

Fell for the meme.

>>17840571
>contaminated coolant
Vague... But also not great sounding. It'll probably run, might need to flush coolant/check water pump and radiator.

>>17840570
>I have no vehicular knowledge
>Is this ok
Honestly this has to be bait
>Clutch: Shudder
>Antifreeze: Contaminated
>Engine: Leak
>Trans: Notchy

I gotta say, that's a very thorough check - who does that?

>>17840570
is this a meme?

mate that thing is fucked, unless you're getting for a steal then walk away.

>>17840601
How mechanically minded are you?
I don't have anything to compare with, being my miata is only the 2nd I've driven.
>Slave cyl
Good idea, they usually leak like a fuck after 20 years
>Whining
Mine is pretty noisy, though the fuel tank is practically mated to the parcel shelf/chassis
>Notchy
Try flushing the tranny fluid. People swear by motorcraft, or depending on your clime, redline 50:50 works. Just make sure it's GL4.
>Shudder
Not great. Good time to replace clutch/throw/etc and get a lightweight one if you can spring. Cheap, if you go stock.
>Consumption
Pass
>Rattling
Common. Remove them.
Wrap header/downpipe if you can. No more boiling cabin.
>Oily
Either crank or cam seal. Cam seal is easy.
>Left rear
Either rebuild yourself for $20 or get a refurb.
>Uncomfortable
Wat.
>Can't heal toe
Extra wat.
>Turn lever
Yeah mine can be a PITA sometimes.

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>>17840640
>Common
After replacing my crank, I tore off the downpipe 'insulation' and wrapped it. That fucking rattle on overrun between 2-4.5k is almost gone and not the tranny tunnel is only boiling, not melting on the hottest of stop-start days.

>>17840620
>>17840619
>>17840618
>>17840580
this nigga charging 2700 pound / 3500 dollars for this lol

I should skip it right?

>>17840703
Hinestly it looks like its just an old car. Half the shit in the list is bs, the other half is stuff you should be replacing anyways, like coolant, brake pads and rotors, brake fluid, drive belt, tranny fluid. Thats all normal. Clutch wear is also normal depending how many miles are on it.

>>17840869
Would you get a clean later NC or an NA like this then? First car btw.

>>17841208
NB. The NC is the worst MX-5 and you shouldn't be paying more than £1500 for your first car desu.

>>17840601
Nigga did you even test drive the car first?

Fucking shit, rolled my window down and then it got stuck with a pop sound, like a piece of plastic broke up.
It doesn't move up or down, could push it down by hand what was a mistake. I can hear motor is spinning, but it pushes against resistance and stops obviously.

Please tell me this is a cheap fix

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What will happen if i start the car with a wrong CAS position?
I am betting it wont start.

pls respond

serious question: I'm a straight 20s male what % of people will assume im gay if i buy one of these and leave it stock?

>>17841908
Get a front lip and decent wheels and it won't look gay anymore .

>>17841918
Got any pictures of a front lip on an NA? Would like to see it.

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>>17841931
Not him but here's a pic of one with an OEM style lip.

>>17841908
The stereotype isn't that you're gay for driving a miata anymore, now it's that you're an obnoxious college kid so you'll probably fit in

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>>17841772
>wake me up inside

>>17841953
Thanks. I feel like it looks...fat, for some reason. Those are some sweet wheels though.

>>17840646
What are you saying is it better with wraps or not?

My feet are cooking now and everything is stock afaik. Should be comfy in the winter but still I would like to get rid of the heat.

>>17840640
I can live with all of the problems except notchy transmission.

It's hard to put it in first sometimes and 2nd sometimes clinks with really awful metallic sound. Oil has been changed recently with redline one.

Everything else can be and will be dealt with. Parts are not expensive and most of the fixes I can do myself.

Except for the tranny, which is bad because it really gets on my nerves and reduces enjoyment of the car. Luckily it is only annoying in city driving where you have a lot of stop and go traffic.

>>17841866
It'll be really retarded or really advanced but it should run. Just put it in the middle and adjust from there

>>17842250
Some people have a really bad time with redline gear oil in the transmissions of these cars. Motorcraft is superior.

Sidenote, you might just need to rebuild the shifter

>>17842277
>Sidenote, you might just need to rebuild the shifter
not that guy, but what oil should i put in the shifter?

>>17842277
link to shifter rebuil tutorial or something?

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>summer is over
>handful of days where i can ride with the top down
>the hardtop looks amazing doe

POST SUMMER JAMS YOU FUCKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPlQpGeTbIE

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hello friends

>>17842336
Same gear oil that goes in the transmission. First suck out whatever is in there with a turkey baster or pump

>>17842357
Google it dude. Just gotta buy a kit somewhere and install the bits, it's pretty straightforward. I got my kit from here: http://5xracing.com/c-529257-miata-shifter-rebuild-kits-and-bushings.html

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>replace 1.6 calipers with 1.8
>new discs, pads, SS lines
>adjust ebrake
>bleed everything, pedal rock fucking hard
>brakes work fucking great
one week later
>ebrake does nothing
>pedal not squishy but no longer rock hard
>LOUD ASS FUCKING squeal with anything other than very light pressure
>squeal happens around turns without braking as well
>hear rotational wobbly noise if driving next to concrete structures
what the fug, this isn't my first time replacing brakes. Nothing like this happened before I replaced them. What the fuck is this

>>17843289

Had one drive by me, i'm amazed how tiny it is.

>>17843565
rotor warp/dtv?

is the rotor runout set properly?

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rate my idea: viper engine in a miata

Anyone know where i can buy a NA/NB hardtop that won't cost the same as buying another car?? Are they really $1000+ or do the cheap ones just sell fast?

>>17844746

Soooo basically a JDM AC Cobra ?

>>17844746
A Miata is basically half a Viper, so why not put half a Viper motor in it and use a VR5?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewZfxOoxcEg

>>17845567
They're just pricey.
They only came optional, as far as I know, otherwise you had to pay mega dollhairs for a new one as a part.

>>17845567
You could find a vendor that sells 'race/track' hardtops, but they're usually just a shell with plexi window. Barely cheaper, though.

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Heya fellas,
I sure do love my miat, cute little machines

>>17845614
Uglier than the mk7 Celica.

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>>17845631
Don't be talking shit about miatas in a miata thread, don't you have any pride?

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>>17845614
I prefer my miata with a few simple mods

>>17845781
Techno-spirit miata is best miata

>>17845781
Are those celica lights? That looks way better than oem

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2009 low mileage RX8 or a 1990 80k mile Miat?

>>17847525
Do you need 4 seats?

>>17847539
no, i have no friends

>>17847544
Do you have a problem with oil consumption, fuel usage, meme engine with meme seals? If yes, then pick Miata, if not, then RX8

>>17843289

Saw a blacked out one, They really look good

>drive Miata about 1hr to take a class I've been wanting to attend
>didn't hit any traffic at all so I get there about 45min early
>sit in the car listening to music and playing on my phone
>registration is about to begin, so I go to start the car to move it closer to the building
>battery is too dead to turn the engine over

The whole class I was just thinking about having to ask someone for a jump or trying to pop start it by myself. Luckily when I went out I turned the key just out of curiosity and it fired right up. Weird.

>>17847616
Your starter might be going out. Next time it does that, hit the starter with a wrench or hammer or something and see if it starts up

hey there,
would like to buy an NA or NB miata, which are the best factory engines for each?

>>17848448
not like you have much of a choice
all off them are good

>>17842205
Insulate the foot wells and transmission tunnel, night and day difference.

>>17848448
'99-00 NB has the most refined version of the NA's 1.8, '01-'05 add VVT.

The major difference is that the NB engine uses solid lifters and produces a bit more power.

Miatas are shit, faggots

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>buy a vito o-ring, they said
>it will last forever, they said
>mfw its impossible to install

>>17849802
meguiars

>>17840703
That seems like a shitheap. I thought you bongs had access to numerous good and inexpensive NAs?

Bought mine for $2500 with 120k, mechanic owned. Keep looking

>>17840568
I'm putting Raceland coilovers on my NA soon. I know, not the best, but better than nothing and I don't care too much about a slightly harder ride. Using NB tophats and plan on about a 1.5" drop, then buying wheels and tires. I'm likely going to run 205s-225s same on all corners and gonna try keeping tire height stock.

Big question- best wheel size? 17s look too big, I'm partial to 15-16s. I'm aware bigger wheels/tires increase unsprung weight but I'm going to appreciate the extra grip come year 2 when power mods start.

Tldr: Anybody have thoughts on wheel size? How big is too big?

>>17849582
>>17848448
Best power-to-weight for NA/NB is had on years 1996 and 1999. This isn't taking the MSM into account, however

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>1.6 miata straight piped
Bad idea?

>>17852667
yes its going to sound like pure shit.

>>17852699
Proof?

>>17852704

There is nothing worse than a loud slow car.

https://nh.craigslist.org/cto/d/95-mazda-miata-convertible/6300404054.html
thoughts?

Holy shiiiiiiiiit, the clutch metal whine noise I was worrying about was actually just the clutch slave cylinder rod vibrating. Drowned it in grease and the sound is gone!

Any tips on how to secure a failed window >>17842076
so it will stay up for a while?

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>>17852593
Since you're planning on doing power mods, you want to have at least 8 inches of wheel width I'd say. 15x9 can fit with minimal or no pulling depending on ride height, offset, and tires.
As for diameter, 15 or 16 is good. I'm partial to 15, as I think a little more sidewall looks good and is beneficial to handling. NBs look good on 16s though.
I wouldn't bother with 14", not a lot of tire choices and not easy to find very wide.

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Well i got some work to do on that miata i guess.

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>>17840571
>>17840573

Looks like it's in pretty good shape man

>Miata Club is 9k more than a BRZ/GT86 in Canada
Why the fuck?

>>17853693
lmao

>>17853247
Good to know, thanks for the input. I've found out 15x9s make for pretty freakin rare and expensive tire sizes. Got any preferred tire manufacturers? I thought I saw Nitto makes one along with Continental

>>17840568
Does anyone have those retrowave pics of the NA I've been looking so I can do a wall mural

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So, as someone who's not had a ton of first hand experience with Miatas, but is interested in buying them, I have questions.

So, for someone who wants a fun and reliable daily and likes to keep things rather stock, why do NA Miatas seem to get such poor gas mileage? Everywhere I'm reading online from miata owner forums and such, with just about everything stock, have them reporting an average MPG somewhere in the high 20's.

Like, compared to a civic of the same era with the same engine engine displacement and weighs more, why would it be just as fast in the 0-60 and quarter mile and get nearly 40mpg?

Anyone know how hard it would be to detune the engine? I live in California and would love to do an LS swap, but the government banned all forms of fun a while ago. What I was thinking was writing the ecu to use 4 or even 2 cylinders when I go in to get it smogged, then immediately taking it back home and reflashing it. Any problems with that?

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Any turbofags here?
Should have my turbo installed in the next month or so
Currently running an me221 with rx8 injectors and self tuned.clutch is installed, Just waiting for some time off work to install the rest

>>17857657
Yeah, that's not how California emissions works. Swaps are illegal in California unless the swapped engine is newer than the old one, and all emissions components are functioning. It needs OBD2 capability, evap system, egr if equipped, catalytic converter, everything. You might need to go through a different inspection process for a swapped car.
You're gonna get fucked on the underhood inspection if you just bring a Miata in with a chebby v8. They're gonna notice lol.
Sidenote, Cali (and all states really) also prohibits swapping in an engine that was never sold in the US market, such as the RB26, silvertop 4age, etc.

>>17857697

jelly as fuck

>>17857697
How is the Me221? I have heard people shit on the FM221, but that's jsut because it's not megasquirt and "doesn't have all the support MS does, real friends don't let friends buy Flyin Miata ECU", ect.

>>17858446
>>17857657
There ARE carb legal LS swaps.
https://www.flyinmiata.com/V8/california/
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=304339

If my engine is knocking 'from the top end' does it mean it's basically kill? Started a couple weeks ago and was driving fine but now there's a Cel for a random misfire and the power is fucked.
>still driving it everyday

>>17858722
Yeah I know that, that's what I was talking about. That kit has all of the emissions components and everything to pass carb and be legal federally, but you don't have to get that kit. You can DIY a carb legal setup

>>17852563
>I thought you bongs had access to numerous good and inexpensive NAs?

We do but it doesn't stop people overpricing their heaps of shit. A quick look on autotrader shows some good examples for under 2k.

>>17852667
Bad. Mate of mine had one, sounded terrible and it actually hurt your ears as he went past at low speeds. Even if you think it might be fun to piss people off with the noise, someone will put a brick through your window for it.

>>17858715
I've never used MS so I can't really compare. I'm in the UK so Me221 is a no brainer really, the guys that make them are nice chaps and will help with any problems you have on their Facebook page/over the phone. Software seems decent although I've had my ve table completely wipe itself once, which isn't ideal.I always keep my laptop in my car now. just incase any dumb shit like that happens again.

>>17856539
short answer: drivetrain loss
when it comes to getting the power to the wheels
>rwd<fwd
>automatic<manual
so when u ask
>why does it get the fuel mileage of a compact truck?
now you know why

>>17858446
>what do you mean, no retest county?

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>>17842493
why is this jam so fresh?
>asks for summer jams
have some winter jams instead
https://youtu.be/Fn06BFdDejo
t. volvbr/o/

The past few times I've driven my 1.6 NA, it's been shifting a little rough into second. There's a slight lumpy feeling and it takes a bit more force than usual to get it in? What should I do? My trans fluid has maybe 10k on it since the last time I changed it. I used Redline MTL and the fluid in the shifter turret was changed, too.

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I'll just bump this with some nice OC. This is a WIP, sampling is ongoing. Apart from the wrong inclination of the window, any other suggestions/wishes before it goes to embroidery and prints?

So I live in pasco florida and my car was sitting up to its rims in standing water. is it going to be fine?

>>17842250
>2nd sometimes clinks with really awful metallic sound.

This is perfectly normal. The metallic clank when you shift 1-2 on the 5-speed is supposed to be an homage to old British roadster transmissions. If it is loud, the fluid simply needs changing.

>>17860338
>homage to old British roadster transmissions
idk about that, but mine just goes c-clink fairly quietly when you shift into 2nd too fast. it's a '91 and apparently their syncros make it harder to engage gears than the '94 and up

>>17860289
As long as it's below the door seals you should be ok

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>>17852667
>>17852699
>>17852699

What about not a complete straight pipe but just an axle-back muffler delete with resonator and cat still in place? According to some old forum posts it's not too bad but law in my area limits noise to 90 dB @ 1m. Anyone got SPL readings for this setup?

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>>17860271
it should be a bit rounder, to match the shape of the NA

it's got kind of a lotus esprit thing going on

>>17860348
https://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=55030

>>17860032
Okay, I understand the drivetrain loss, and I'd imagine those speeds from those civics to be from a manual, so it's a best case scenario, but still, some forums report having corvettes with large LS motors and weighing a lot more get a hair over 20mpg. not too far off from a Miata. RWD and likely manual.
Same with the fabled AE86, reported fuel economy realistically being around 30, a touch higher. Weighs a little less, but from seeing what a Miata gets, and how much it weighs, compared to say, a Nissan D21, I don't know if it'd effect it that badly.

>>17862472
Idk I have 205 mm BFG rivals with stock power and I can't skid anymore unless it's raining

just stretch some 195 all seasons on your 15x8s and get hektik, that's what I'm gonna do

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>>17852563
but this one has 70k and zero rust on the body

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When the engine is warm it feels like brakes are applying some pressure on my NA. What could it be? It's driving me crazy

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love this front bumper

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>>17865150
I'm the guy with the rivals, I've got a 97 NA with the 1.8. the ND has so much torque compared to the NA you should be able to skid just fine on dry ground with 8 in wide wheels, even more so with a tune.
What are stock wheel specs on the ND anyway?

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So excited to get my miata back from the paint/body shop. They're doing some paintless dent repair on a qp dent, repairing some scratches, filling some nicks, and applying a new layer of clear over the whole car. They quoted me 655 for all that, which I think seems like a good deal. Not a whole lot of surface area on our cars so I guess it keeps things cheap.

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Fucking
Calipers

Rear passenger side is dragging, but isn't seized. However, it seems I've stripped the splines off the hex-head spline drive. I did something wrong trying to retract the piston.
Just going to replace both calipers anyway as I found minor leaks in the adjustment hole.
I still need to do the clutch!

>>17859962
There's quite a few threads on miataturbo where those ME guys are accused of stealing most of their software from megasquirt devs.
People actually found pictures in their manuals that were literally copy pasted from megasquirt manuals. Reading how they attempt to defend themselves is enlightening. The way they conduct themselves online doesnt really seem appropriate for someone representing a business.

As far as the product itself, i cant really comment

>>17865070

Gives me Alien vibes. Source? Pic with the lights up?

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>wage in
>order parts
>back to being poor

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>shift from 1st to 2nd
>ClickCLACK CLuNk

>>17866846

Mine clunks at second as well. Any idea why that is?

>>17866872
>trans fluid not being motorcraft
>old synchros

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>>17858446
>Sidenote, Cali (and all states really) also prohibits swapping in an engine that was never sold in the US market
Live in a non-metro county in a non-shit state and you'll be doing whatever you want as long as you pay your registration and it passes an OBD2 check. State inspections are done by private shops here, and they don't give anything that even resembles a fuck.
Flyover state my ass, this place is great.

>>17858446
>tfw live in South Carolina
>no inspection
>no emissions
>therefore no real regulation over vehicles
>also can buy guns and conceal carry

How does it feel to live in quite literally the second shittiest state in the country?

>>17867176

>no inspection

Really? What if you drive a car that can fall apart an cause an accident or has totally shot brakes and tires? Is this kind of shit enforced by the patrols?

>>17867176

>humid subtropical climate

yuk

>>17867011
>>17867176
While you can definitely get away with it in most flyover states (fuck you Utah) it's still techinally federally illegal as per the EPA clean air act. It's basically unenforced in a lot of states though as you said.
Also I don't live in Cali I'm just taking a class on federal emissions regulations and I'm emissions certified in Weber county, Utah

>>17867185
N O P E, up until 2008, it was illegal for a cop to pull someone over for the sole purpose of not have a license plate. It depends on the county and the cop desu though, some of the staties will pull you over if your chassis is literally about to snap in half, but the cars here dont rust since we dont salt roads bc no winter.
>>17867193
Yea, I live in the lowcountry, so the summer months are brutal in terms of heat
>>17867620
Ah, I see, sorry to hear that about your state though, I don't think I could live anywhere that does inspection and/or emissions ever again, it's so redundant considering the small amount of people like us who mod their cars, and our carbon footprint is so minuscule it doesn't amount to much.

>>17858715

I've been driving with the FM 221 for about 1000 miles and it seems to be working great. I'm aware that Miata forum guys shit on it, and honestly I would not have bought it if I knew it had such a shaky reputation, but no problems so far.
I've never used other ECU's so I have nothing to compare it to though.

>>17863412

2008+ Corvettes get relatively amazing gas mileage, so most sporty cars are going to look bad in comparison. A tractor engine bumbling along at low RPM tends to be better for fuel economy than a Porsche GT3 4.0 thats designed for high RPM.

Miatas have very short gearing, and I've heard the aerodynamics are not very good, which contributes to worse fuel economy.

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what is the cheapest thing I can do to my miat to make it better? like most bang for the buck

it's an NB1se

>>17867973
Weight reduction. Cut the rear bumper.

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>mfw keep seeing beautiful NDs around my town that i cant yet afford
Seems like the ND is alot more popular with men than the previous ones. Cant remember the last time i saw an Na or NB not being driven by a woman

>>17867973
Clean n wax

>>17865209
Cant wait for before and afters

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>>17867881
Hey it ain't my state! I'm just here for school. Bout to gtfo as soon as my degree is done, fuck this state. I agree it is pretty redundant.

>>17868093
Here's the worst of it. My ex roommate slid a box full of shit off of my trunk lid a little while ago. He's paying for all the damage he did luckily. The paint shop itemized the bill and his damage ended up being 275.

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>>17868147
Here's the dent I'm getting pulled. Word of caution, don't try to install your hardtop by yourself while drunk

how much should i be expecting to pay for a finish panel for an na? sf bay area

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>>17868162
And this is from backing into a snowbank. At least I have a winter beater now so the Miata will never have to touch snow again. The hood also has a lot of clear coat scratches from my grandma rubbing it with a beach towel but I don't have a pic of that

>>17868147
bruh, get a buffing wheel and polish that shit up yourself

>>17868190
It's down to the paint in a lot of places. Also the ex roommate is paying for it anyway

>>17868195
>down to the paint
should've gotten white, black, or classic red so you wouldn't have to worry about any of that pesky clear coat business

>>17867963
The forum was dated around 2006, so it wasn't too new, was seeing some C5's.
And pardon the question, but what's the point of shorter gears of it ends up accelerating at a theoretically similar rate to an economy sedan with a similar top speed?

>>17868386
>what's the point of shorter gears
better launches at the expense of going VRRRRRRRRRRRRRR on the highway

it's kinda cool to do burnouts in a 100hp car

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thingken about eventually buying a miata
would i be happier with an NA or NB? they are both about the same price from what i've seen. what would i be happier with? i think an NA with the 1.8l engine and 6spd manual would be more fun. i want a zippy little car that's cheap to insure

1.) should I go check out
https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/cto/d/1995-mazda-miata-edition/6293453305.html
2.) Could golf clubs fit in the trunk with driver taken out

>>17868728
would a 1.8/6spd swap into an NB be an easy job? would it bolt right in?

>>17868816
intradasting

>>17868680
NA didn't have 6 speed
also, where do you live? NA prices are starting to overtake NB practically everywhere

Would using 4x130 pattern wheels be a bad idea? Would i run into any problems or should i be good to go with an adapter?

>>17847614
I really need to see one because they look like shit in the pictures.

>>17842076
>>17853244
holy shit I had the exact same issue last week. there's a cord that pushes the system up, it should be gray metallic in color as opposed to copperish. I just tied it with a flat knot through a couple of plug holes that you plug the inside furnishing in. makes it impossible for the window to go down. Now waiting on a generic electric system to ship so I can slap it on. Probably the best solution.

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>>17842493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GW6sLrK40k

Summer loves and summer cruises are over, only their memories will prevail
Damned, I wish we already were in June

I wish I still had someone in my life who could give me a reason to live, my carfu cannot replace the warmth of a loved one even if it has overheating issues

>>17869655
Yeah you'd run into the problem of them not fitting on your car

>>17865401
Got a lift? If not the clutch is gonna be a pita

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>>17860271
>>17862113
This, little rounder if you can make it. The window looks a bit strange, maybe I'm just not able to visualize it in its correct coloring. You've done wonders in the past though twingoanon so I know it will be good.
Make sure to have a mariner blue version.

>>17870342
I guess correct coloring should be dark grey like the windows on the Twingo. I will also check if windscreen in plush, plush stuffed with felt or felt only is feeling right.

>>17869719
I just zip tied the window with its stopper. It's holding surprisingly well for now. Will have to hold for a while until I have enough cash to buy the mechanism.
What generic electric system did you buy anon?

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>rains
>Car smells like a wet dog

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>>17871426
Time for a carpet delete! You should at least take all the carpet out and make sure you dont have rust underneath. If the interior just got wet and never dried out correctly, you can seal the car up with a few trays of Damp-Rid for a couple days and everything should be bone dry. If its a leak, time for new weatherstripping n seals. Picked up these 15" BBS wheels to fix up and throw my winter tires on