Mazda is on a whole different level

Ballsy as fuck to bring heat like this

>>17835891
Link?

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>>17835891

>>17835944
to be quite honest, if they will just use the wankel just to wankel an e-motor they can fuck right off if you know what I mean

>>17835891
Is Mazda... /ourguy/?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/08/03/three-european-countries-say-theyre-done-with-fossil-fueled-cars-can-the-rest-of-the-world-catch-up/

>>17835891
I wish I made enough money to buy a new miata club because I totally would at this point. Mazda is /ourguy/

>>17835961
>linking to literal compost

>>17835961
please please do it, ban the diesel vehichles and ban older gasoline cars, please. I wanna see them cry after a near 3/4 of the supply chain, if not more, comes to a complete grinding half because they're following the law and prices go up because of it.

How can you move to ban something when no alternaitve exists. Even if an charging infrastructure existed, there isn't enough lithium production in the entire world in the next 30 years for them to make 500k teslas let alone any other electric car or cell phone batteries or anything else. so please do this shit and face the fucking results.

>>17835986
Idiots also expect all that electricity to come from nowhere for free.

Electric cars definitely ARE a lot more efficient but to produce them and to keep them running lots of damage is done to this planet which all those faggots won't admit.

>>17836002
same idiots who think self driving cars will destroy the car industry as if anyone but taxi companies are actually gonna buy them

>>17836014
but anon, they'll just BAN manually driven cars because that's the best for EVERYONE!

>>17836022
that would be the day we all become bikers

>>17836022
Ban will not happen but they will make it so expensive (because a computer can react much faster!!!111 look at planes, there it works really well too!!!!!!!!!!!111) so that insurance will be laughably expensive and no one will simply be able to afford it or it won't be reasonable.

Result will effectively be the same and hands rubbing intensifies.

>>17836026
but motorbikes are DANGEROUS! danger is BAD!

>>17836026
More like the Day of Retribution™.

>>17836032
This, they'll just force anyone that wants to drive a manual car to pay higher road tax and insurance. They already do it, insurance companies should only assess the value of your vehicle and the likelihood of you crashing it, but they don't. Not a Hybrid or EV? That's a price rise. Doesn't have expensive features like parking sensors? That's a price rise. Not an Automatic? That's a price rise. It looks remotely sporty? That's a price rise.

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>>17836058
ON TOP OF THIS they will probably also say shit like "our numbers show that over proportionally many drivers who prefer manually driven or even MANUALLY SHIFTED cars (oh golly, how archaic~ ) get into accidents. We are really sorry but we're forced to increase the fees for your car to stay competitive :( "

>>17836075
They wouldn't be wrong. manuel cars in the city are hell for a reason, and with the way women drive resting their foot on the clutch, they will wear it out quicker, making it more likely that it will take longer for it to "catch" meaning they will always have a lesser control of their car than someone with an automatic.

wish people would stop acting as if manual was superior because of XYZ, if you can drive fine with it thats great, but why would you want driving to be extra difficult simply for the sake of being extra difficult and nothing else? I can easily see how standard transmission would have higher accident rates than automatics for a number of reasons.

>>17836089
>why would you want driving to be extra difficult simply for the sake of being extra difficult and nothing else?
driving with a manual transmission is fun and involved, it's as simple as that.

>>17836089
It is not "better" on average but it is better FOR YOU if you want to be involved as much as possible. It also makes things less boring.

Of course it's idiotic to hunt a meme when you're actually not into that kind of car fun.

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>>17836089
If you don't see the appeal of a manual transmission you're either a cuck or a benchracer, kill yourself

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>>17835961
>washingtonpost

>>17836126
Manuals are only fun if you like cars.
Normies don't give a flying fuck about cars and just want to go from A to B with as little effort as possible.

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>>17836113
when stacy slips up her bare foot on the clutch and the car slides backwards into yours. i want you to come back here and say that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9lodQzthFc

>>17836126
>>17836125
>>17836134

You people live in flyover, i could deal with a manual transmission all day long in flyover. Come to a european city, with red lights at top of the hill and a god damn stacy in a merc right on your fucking bumper inches away.

Why is MAZDA the only ones doing Atkinson cycle and HCCI engines?

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>>17836126
I have seen at least three women literally cry over manual transmissions, saying they hate it so much because they get scared before starting the car and then when something happens (having to start on a hill signal or actually rolling backwards into someone) they have mental breakdowns.

Then you have all those numales that usually take the train or bus and see driving a car as annoyance.
These people are the majority now if you want it or not and those actively shape the car future since a car manufacturer can't afford to look at a hand full enthusiasts, especially on this global market.
Back when domestic market had the highest priorities, experimenting or catering to smaller groups was possible, now it is a monstrous gamble and 99% of the time not worth it, sadly.

>>17836142
I live in a European city though.

>>17836142
You just need to git gud.

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Dam, I love this car maker so much.

Driving Matters ™

>>17836160
Yeah, this is true, I also need a new clutch kit, because previous owner was a lady.

>>17836166
are you the twingoman?

>>17836170
yes :(

>>17836135
>implying any women drive a manual

>>17836182
Americans are awoken

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>>17836177
lmao, anyways, good luck and wishing you good maintenance your way

>>17836134
You're a cuck if you hate cars as a man.
>>17836142
I live near Cincinnati ohio, a major city
>>17836153
Women don't count in my original post, but you're right regardless which is why it's nice to see Mazda fighting it

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>>17836188
merci twingo

OwO

>>17836191
>You're a cuck if you hate cars as a man.
When did I say I did? I like cars, I won't consider buying an auto anytime soon, but normies these days really couldn't care less about cars.
We're niche now.

>>17836191
>ohio anything
>a major city

back to flyover you go buckeye

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>>17836198
>he actually has the 16v

>have friend who is some environmentalist faggot
>always talks about how cars are evil and Tesla is the savior of the world
>I never really have anything to say to him besides calling him a cuck
>If I try to bring up lithium production he'll just tell me it isn't as bad as CO2 emissions
>tell him that cars are responsible for a miniscule amount of CO2 emissions, that electricity production is the main source
>never even gives me a citation
What do I even say? I always lose arguments because I just don't have anything to say.
Maybe he's right.

>>17836199
I think he was saying that male normies who hate cars are cucks. Which, the majority of men these days are, and it's only getting worse.

>>17836218
without lithium ion batteries, it all goes out of the fucking window.

energyskeptic com/2016/not-enough-lithium-for-electric-car-batteries/
>>17836210
Yes. It's fun to. Don't do turns at 35kph though...

>>17835986
>there isn't enough lithium production in the entire world in the next 30 years for them to make 500k teslas let alone any other electric car or cell phone batteries or anything else

holy fuck, any source for that?

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>>17836226
>Don't do turns at 35kph though...
you just need some fresh fat rubber, bro

>>17836142
then why the fuck would you stop inches away from her bumper
why would you stop inches away from anybody else, anyway

>>17836235
>you just need some fresh fat rubber, bro
they're new tires, it was a tight curve, im a fairly new driver. i had people in the car with me, i shouldn't have done that.
>>17836240
>stacy inches away from your bumper
>why the fuck would you stop inches away from her bumper

nigger, she's behind me.

>>17835891
Is this the end of the electric jew??

>>17835891
Mazda needs to make RWD sport cars and sporty sedans already.

>>17836227
bbc co uk/programmes/p01wp49r

a good source

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>>17836259
they already make the only sports car that matters.

>>17836270
I like coupes.

>>17836151

They're not. Atkinson cycle is pretty common anymore on economy cars. HCCI has been in F1 for a few years now and it remains to be seen who will bring it to the consumer market first.

>>17836254
oh well, it all adds to the experience. you might want to do some hooning on parking lots or even go to a track. helps greatly to know your car and is relaxing in the long run because you know when it's about to hand you its ass.

>>17836279
in a few months when I buy a shitbox twingo, I'll do that. I been seeing them all over for less than 500 euros.

>>17836188
Merci twingo

>>17836206
I think like a million ppl live in Cincinnati you fuck. Back to prepping achmed you go yurop

>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17836188

Goodnight pupper

>>17836191

>You're a cuck if you hate cars as a man.

HA! My gender fluidity allows me to avoid being a cuck when ever I please

>>17836329
>triggered buckeye

only if you account for covington area and the suburbs around cincinatti. at the end of the day, you're still in southern Ohio lol, jesus christ.. that may actually be worse than living in west virginia at least in wv you're a free man.

merci twingo

>>17836135
Why the fuck is she keeping her feet on the clutch

>>17836275
Mazda. They're letting people drive HCCI Mazda3 prototypes right now, and they work pretty well

>>17836343
Please off yourself

>>17836432
1:50 mark her toe gets itchy. just watch

>>17836272
MX5-RF

>>17836022
Then I'll just kms by manually driving my car at 120mph into the house of the guy who makes that a reality

>>17836142
>be braindead euro
>casually use inches
>sperg on the internet about SI

>>17836058
Get better insurance

>>17836089
Manual cars force you to pay more attention to the road. They arent less safe, and the crash ratings prove this since Americans, who prefer automatic most of the time, get into more accidents than europeans do on average.

>>17836479
>Manual cars force you to pay more attention to the road
totally agree with you, but they're hell in the city.
>>17836478
are you triggered fat boy?

>>17835955
Yes we've been over this

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>>17836350
>mfw live right across the river and avoid front license plates and ohio inspection laws

>>17836135
>this exists
found a new fetish, thanks lad

>>17836588
route 27 is the best

>>17836058
there are a few groups of car fans that actually created their own insurance companies for people who also like cars and slightly succeeded

>>17836218
What do they think we're in Afghanistan for? Not to mention all our other electronics and the explosion of smartphones, internet, etc. hasn't even stopped yet.

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1320
GAS THE BIKES
RACEWAR NAO

Until an Electric Car can do Coast to Coast in 28 hours or less, electrics will be in no way progress.

>>17836666
thanks super-Satan

>>17836666
quads of truethisms

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>>17836619

I require more information about this, sir.

>>17836135
Fucking footfags.

>>17836002
>See Lithium mines

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>>17836022

>>17835891
what mazda needs to do is put a 3-rotor in a production vehicle
that'd show everybody

>>17836588
ohio doesnt have inspection laws though

>>17836026
>we Akira now

>>17835891
WTF?!
I love Mazda now!

>>17836135
Driving a manual barefoot is fantastic, also make it easy to resolve a stuck throttle.
How would you rather have people drive when it's hot? Flip flops or barefoot?

>>17836619
Tell me who they are and I'm changing my insurance today.

>>17836142
>inches
>Plural
More than enough space even without heel-and-toe/handbrake.

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>>17836135
Holy shite that vid made me fucking cringe, she'll be having a face to face visit with pic related soon.

>>17835891
aw shit, mazda naming the jew.

>>17837386
jews fear the samurai

>>17835961
http://archive.is/8p0Hl

>>17837283
Just looked at the video, I still stand by my statement, but that bitch is retarded, don't use your toes on the clutch, dafuq

>>17837283
with shoes i drive/ride around in steel toe work boots when its 110 out

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is it true that 1 Tesla battery makes more CO2 than driving a V8 for 8 years?

>>17836142
Fuck off, I happily drive a torqueless manual in San Francisco every day

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>Mazda has experimented with hydrogen rotaries
>they've also experimented with combustion without the need of ignition

>there's a chance that Mazda will make a true zero emissions dorito spinner and show up everyone

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>>17836666
noice

>>17836026
Even bikes can't stay away from self driving meme anymore
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mWsBRgq7pk8

>>17835891
>>17835919
http://www.caradvice.com.au/581823/mazda-electric-car-manufacturers-controlling-the-minds-of-the-media-on-co2-claims/

>>17836456
>35K starting

>>17835891
BASED MAZDA

>>17835986
this. I want to see these liberal retards reap what they sow. They wants to remove cars without providing a decent alternative. They want to be raped by Islam and remove other peaceful religions. They want drugs and communism and STDs and everything that will destroy their frail liberal bodies. Just lmao'ing right now

>>17835986
European countries are small
it's easier to pull off things like that (or make people think you can pull them off) when you have less area and less people to work with

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>>17835891
>“Mobility requires liquid fuel – renewable fuel itself, that’s the best way,” said Fujiwara.

>>17838274

>complains about thing
>unwilling to shill out for it

rlly made me think

>>17837714
rollin

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>>17835891
>TFW can't show support to Muhzduh by buying their cars because they aren't present in your country

Why

>>17836089
>Quoting a literal "user didn't read the manual/is a retard" excuse such as womyn resting their foot on the clutch

C'mon shyamalam, I can do that with automatics too

>My automatic car just moved forward without me touching anything!
>I pressed the brake I swear! But the car just kept on accelerating!
Yeah yeah, that last one is in no way exclusive to automatics I know

Extra difficult? It's an extremely simple, mindless operation unless you're going for a no-clutch shift, in which case it needs a bit more attention. Usually transmissions designed for clutchless shifts are made to facilitate them, tho

Also, one of the advantages manual has is simplicity and general dependability. Less sensors, actuators, and miscellaneous items such as wiring to get fuck'd up. And when whatever fucks up does go wrong, it isn't as complicated or expensive to fix

Try harder
>>17836142
>>17836494
>they're hell in the city.
Seriously don't understand this

I've driven Manuel cars for over a decade now, only using cars outside of toight city streets once a month or less, been in 3+ hour traffic jams countless fkin times (on bridges too. Accidents on bridges are about the most bothersome thing you can ever get), and never have been bothered by it, it's like being bothered by having to keep your foot on the brake in an automagick to keep it from creeping forward

>>17836198
Merci Twingo

Pls keep the electrical gremlins away

>>17836191
513 brodowski, reporting in. I go bumper to bumper in cars and semi trucks in cincy traffic. Normies are trash

>>17835891
>disregards electric car meme
>has made statements against automated cars and ruining the driver experience
>continues to manufacture the MX5 despite everyone going the way of exclusively econoshitboxes
>HCCI


truly the little car company that could and /ourguy/.

take note, subiecucks.

>>17836135
Looks like my feet.

>>17836188
Merci twingo!

>>17836666
I don't know why you Capitalized Some of the words in your Sentence but I agree 100%
nice quads btw

>>17835891
Fucking based. HCI or new wenkel to BTFO teslafags when!

>>17837022
I have to assume they're like private torrent trackers but for insurance.

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>>17836619
maybe /o/ should start its own insurance company

what could go wrong?

>>17835891
I've owned 3 Mazdas so far and hope to buy more. I am not ashamed to be a fanboy if they're going to be this based. Mazda is /ourguy/

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>>17838197
>you will never take your motorcycle for a walk

I'd love to get a Mazda 3 because Mazda is so based doing shit like this, but I'm manlet and can't really reach the clutch in them.

>>17839902
Use some kind of extension between pedal and foot, boi. A block of wood would suffice, damnit
Plenty of ways to get that lever up to yer comfort zone, I'm sure

Now go and show some love to the /o/tists of the automotive industry. They try their best, against the odds and a hostile world

>>17837714
rollin for elizabeth, rebekah, arianne, or christy

>>17839639
>like private torrent trackers but for insurance
Sounds more like private torrent trackers but for rich people.
Isn't the point of an insurance company that the mistakes of the few are paid for by the many?
How do you do that without 'the many'?

>>17839932
lol "tagged as transgender"

>>17837714
rawl

>>17839957
;_;
actually the second time I got matched with a transgender, since the first time was IRL, can I reroll?

>>17839975
kek has spoken

benis for u

>>17837714
>make batteries to make less polluting cars
>batteries are way more damaging that actually driving the car for years
>producing the car is more polluting than gas too
>still have to produce electricity using coal or oil
B R A V O E L O N

>>17837714
>Renee
>Statutory rape (aggravated
>incest
sounds like a fun girl

>>17837714
r..rollin

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>>17836142
You fucking pansy, I drove a short-sticked dogbox, mechanically operated clutch with about 90 pounds of return spring on it, manual brakes, no power steering boat on Telegraph in Detroit at 5:30pm on a Friday, faggot- Pull your thumb out of your ass and get on the ball.

>>17839922
I'm not going to glue a block of wood to the pedal in my brand new $20,000+ car.

On a different note, it bugs me that none of the dealers within 200 miles of me have a 2.5l manual Mazda 3 on the lot. I really want to try driving that one.

>>17839902
wait, how short are you? I'm 5'3" and haven't driven a car I couldn't reach the clutch on.

>>17840141
I'm 5'5". When I drove a 2015 Mazda 3 I had to put the seat all the way forward and even then I had to stretch to get the clutch to the floor. It's probably because I'm all torso. I have about a 28" inseam.

And scratch what I said about manual 2.5s. There's a lot about 90 minutes away that has one. I know what I'm doing Monday morning.

>>17840152
did you rotate the seat downward?

>>17840163
No. I'll give that a go when I try the 2.5l.

>>17837188
Im down
>>17837714
Rallin

has mazda made an electric rotary engine yet? i thought they would have started developing the tech a while ago now that tesla are making electric motor cars mainstream. Im sure given the following of the old mazda rotary cars of old an electric rotary would be quite popular to the average consumer thats skeptical of a new company like tesla.

>>17840353
They invented the gekei piston.

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>>17839607
I probably do it automatically because in my head I considered "electric car" and "coast to coast" the main elements of my sentence, so I made them stand out.
Its my way of braking up monotonous blocks of texts. It works better in longer paragraphs and may look silly in just a single sentence.

>>17840074
I only been driving for three months of my life and have maybe a total of 70 driving hours under my belt, give me a break senpai.

>thejewfearsthesamurai.mp4

>>17840129
Just tie it on, short round

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>>17836188
MERCI BEAUCOUP TWINGO!

>>17837714
Roll for Alexandra, Aspecia, or Christy (just so I can ask what the fuck illegal twerking is)

>>17840986
I'm ok with this

>>17840988
And this didn't count!

>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17836454
shieeeeeet

>>17835891
MAZDA /o/URBRAND

>>17837714
Rolling

>>17839939
It's like a betting pool, if you have better drivers who know how to fix their shit and will do it themselves without submitting a claim for a gorillion dollars it would work better than a bunch of daddy's money fags that submit a claim for a little scratch.

>>17835891
jew fears the samurai

>>17837714
mama mia

>>17837714
Rick Rollin'

>>17837714
THIS IS KATANA, SHE'S GOT MY BACK
SHE'LL CUT YOU IN HALF WITH ONE SWORD STROKE LIKE MOWIN' THE LAWN

>>17837714
rolling my dudes

>>17835891
wtf I love Mazda even more now

>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17837714
roll tahd

>>17837714
if only it was just the CO2
ppl seem to ignore every other kind of pollution atm
out of sight out of mind
>rolln for qt non bitchy criminal

>>17837714

Need to learn how to steal dem souls.

>>17837714
rorr

>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17837714
roll

>>17836002
>Electric cars definitely ARE a lot more efficient

Did you even read the article?

>>17835891
Wtf I love Mazda now!

>>17836188
Merci Twingo

>>17835891
Mazda is pretty cool in my book.


>>17835986
>ban the diesel vehichles
Diesels are less harmful to the atmosphere than their gasoline counterparts, dumbfuck.

>>17846282
That's why you can't enter a major European city with a 5 year old diesel, but can with a 8 year old gasoline one. You are retarded, dumb fuck.

>>17846324
One thing is NOx, another thing is CO2, bitchass nigger.

>>17846324
no, that's because they're more harmful to human health than petrol cars are.

>>17836188
merci twingo

>>17835986
hey we can just destroy and rebuild and retrofit all of our fueling stations with electric stations with free manpower construction materials and fuel

and the chinese can make infinite batteries don't worry about it they're good for it

>>17837714
Rolling for Juliana

>>17837714
The processes all the way down, from gathering materials for production, to actually creating the battery, cause pretty heavy pollution. And that's to say nothing of the fact that you still have to produce energy to power these cars, and since they're appliances expect to replace them every couple of years.

So umm if there eint gonna be enough lithium for dem batteries how about biofuel? Seems to have almost as good energy density as gasoline, and it can be made by just growing some plants or something.

>>17839660
I'll design the logo.

>>17846638
/g/ please

it's not hard to control the minds of the media desu, I would do it too if I was Tesla. What's better than a bunch of hysteric women and nu-male college grads advocating your product for free?

>>17846592
>"some" plants

>>17846592

does it make lots of noise though?

>>17836089
>manuel cars in the city are hell for a reason
they aren't

>>17846689
Like, yeah, probably.

>>17846282
did you even read what you replied to?

>>17846592
problem with biofuel is poliltical, you cant commercially grow those plants without destroying the food market overnight, there is simply not enough land to grow "some" plants for fuel.

>>17848769
Someone developed a method to make ethanol out of kudzu. Surprise surprise, it got minimal media attention

>>17849473
what does that have anything to do with anything?

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>>17849497
Kudzu is a plant you can make biofuel out of you retard

>>17849507
you can literally make biofuel out of anything that is organic. the problem isnt finding a plant you can make biofuels out of you fucking moron.

the problem is raising that crop, whatever that may be, industrially at scale, and process it industrially at scale. The reason why it becomes political is because, all that land you would need to raise that fuel, has to come from somewhere, and currently we already use all that land for food production, so you'd have to cut food production in order to produce fuel, not to mention the ridiculous water foot print issues that would arise from this.

Kudzu is readily available at the side of the road, and in the time it takes to clean the south of all its kudzu it's all grown back again

>>17849528
Cutting kudzu from the side of the road is hardly cost effective on an industrial scale.

>>17849528
you truly don't understand the world you live in. you should take econ 101 at any college if you can. it will make you understand these things better.

>>17837714
rolli

>>17835986
>Implying that ICE bans are about replacing ICE vehicles with electrics and not about forcing people onto trains/buses

The most efficient means of generating a biofuel isn't roadside weeds, its algae. There are specific strains of algae that grow and produce more oil for converting into fuel. They can mass produce this in vertical systems and make an awful lot of it for relatively little money. The issue isn't the fuel source, the issue is refining it. There still is no cost effective way to render out that biodiesel that isn't energy and time intensive.

Biofuel hit a wall years ago because of this.

>>17849740
Really makes you think

>>17849768
Basically as long as its cheap/legal to pump oil out of the ground and put carbon back into the atmosphere that's been sequestered there since the carboniferous biofuels aren't going to be competitive.

They'll probably be more of a last ditch way for novelty ICE cars to keep driving in a world dominated by electrics than a savior for the industry as it stands today. The cost of batteries and performance of electric cars is increasing too quickly now.

>>17835986
This may come as a shock to you, but I think you should know that cars are essentially absent from commercial supply chains.

>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17849740
How are you gonna power those buses and how you gonna deliver goods?

>>17849835
they're banning all ICE vehicles that have certain emissions standards. Some cities in germany go as far as all vehicles made before 2010s, that includes heavy and light trucks.

>>17837714
R-r-roll

>>17849865
A lot of places already have overhead lines for powering trams, its not that difficult to imagine a truck or a bus with 100 or so miles of range on battery and that can use overhead power lines where available.

>>17849801
We need radically different rechargeable batteries before the internal combustion engine is threatened in any real way. The energy density of fuel is just too high for batteries to really compete. Electric motors make a lot of headway by having a more efficient cycle when it comes to extrapolating stored potential into movement, but the most advanced li-ons are way more than a full magnitude behind gasoline when it comes to energy density.

We'd almost be better off finding a way to rapidly metabolize sugar into electricity as we already known how to achieve it with enzyme reactions. 100lbs of sugar would put 1000lbs of li-ons to absolute shame. Hell, straight fat would be even better.

>>17849915
For long-range commercial stuff, some combo of batteries, fuel cells, and grid power is probably the answer. Though having something come out of left field like a bio cell, or a sodium air battery, or a real nuclear powered car wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

For most people's daily drivers though batteries probably aren't far off as a solution.

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>>17836022
Coordinated all automated cars can literally support over three times the traffic flow instead of stop-start human incompetence.

Urban traffic light intersection delays could also potentially be removed.

If that means politicians don't have to waste billions on upgrading roads instead of buying vote then say goodbye to driving your NA Miata on public roads

>>17848769
>>17849522

Most countries including America and Yourip have policies to intentionally limit their food output to ensure agriculture can remain (somewhat) economically viable and not ruin the land.

And not dumping practically free food on the developing world allows them to build an economy instead of relying on foreign aid.

Let it all burn.

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Aircraft will still need kerosene compatible biofuels.

The only other power source that might work is liquid hydrogen but that would require dramatically redesigning aircraft to cope with the much greater fuel volume (but reduced weight). Flying wings might make a comeback.

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>>17848769
>America already growing way more corn than they need because of government subsidies
>so much corn that it has replaced sugarcane
>so much corn it's in literally fucking every single processed food you can buy in a US grocery store
>so much corn it's primarily to blame for american obesity because it's a shit food literally used for fattening up pigs before some asshole decided it was worth something and we got into this mess
>corn can also be used for biodiesel
>just stop putting it in foods it doesn't need to be in, and ship it to biofuel plants instead

>>17850091
this is stupid as shit, 100% manual vehicles mean the driver is going to be more likely to pay attention to the road and less likely to be looking at the newest cat pic on facebook or whatever normies do while driving

>>17850193
apparently american coke tastes different to the rest of the world because americans use corn syrup and everyone else just uses sugar

>>17836218
Ask him if he eats meat.

Animals products account for 18-52% (depending on the study you read) of all fossil fuel output.

Being vegan + driving a ice is the same as eating a standard American diet + riding a bike.

If he's not a vegan, he's just virtue signalling. Driving a Tesla doesn't change your life. There's no self sacrifice, really. Changing long term habits and making your diet fuck-hard to keep up in the US is actually somewhat difficult.

t. Meat eater that actually accepts the hypocrisy.

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>>17850203
I'm american and I've been to other continents and our food is over-sugared slop compared to everywhere else. Everything from US has sugar in it for no reason and our sugary treats have EVEN MORE sugar than they should. Less is more. After a day or two of eating food from other places in the world, you get used to it and everything tastes so much better because there isn't a pound of sugar overpowering the natural taste of the food. After eating in Germany for a week I didn't want to come back home. Unless you only buy the most basic ingredients of food and become a master chef and cook all your own shit, it's impossible to get the same tastes here. Shit even the produce at walmart is genetically engineered to be more giant and juicy and sweet than it's supposed to be. It's completely fucked.

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>>17850203
Some Americans swear by Mexican coke which is made with cane sugar and comes in glass bottles.

>>17850203
The entire first world uses corn syrup, it's just called something different depending on where you live. On US cans it says "high fructose corn syrup" but if your cans say "glucose-fructose" for example, that's the same thing.

On the other hand, third world countries really do have real sugar in Coca-Cola.

>>17850278
nope australia has sugarcane as far as the eye can see so we get the top shelf coke blend

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>>17850315
dat QLD

Looking like this new Mazda engine is legit

http://jalopnik.com/i-drove-mazda-s-holy-grail-of-gasoline-engines-and-it-w-1800874806


Damn the HCCI 2.0 liter gets 190 hp


Their new ND Miata can probably fit it.
A Mazdaspeed 190 HP ND Miata would be fucken insane

>>17850268
One of those Americans here. It is better, if more expensive. It's kind of like the difference between 50 dollar headphones and 200 dollar headphones, everything is clearer, if not necessarily different.

>Euros openly accept they made a mistake with small turbo-diesels
>Mazda can't accept they made a mistake with rotaries and are clinging desperately to HCCI
Toyota got it right

>>17850405
>HCCI
>clinging

Sticking with success isn't exactly an act of desperation.
Increasing power output while simultaneously increasing efficiency is exactly what we need. Econoboxes are becoming quite capable machines.

>>17836134
Mazda automatics are still pretty good though.

>>17850278
>look at coke can
>water, cane sugar
i refuse to associate with corn syrup PLEBS

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>>17846592
Algae. No one ever brings up algae when we talk about biofuel, and I don't know why.

>>17850150
In the USA and Europe agriculture is subsidized to estabalise prices for the farmer it has literally nothing to do with land management.

Usa however has a conservation ship program where people are paid not to plant but that has more to do with soil erosion and dust bowlification than anything else.

>>17850193
Corn is used mainly for feed, they began using it for sugar replacement because it's cheaper and does essentially the same thing. Corn is subsidized to keep meat prices low.

>>17835891
holy shit mazda is so fkn based

>>17849507
you can make fuel out of any source of CO and H2.

>>17851242
Because all the problems mentioned above wouldn't be, but supposedly Exxxon has been working with algae to develop biofuels

>>17851242

It isnt talked about because of all the hype with EV vehicles but nobody mentions that the metals to make those batteries are also terrible for the environment, are conflict minerals and also sometimes get mined by child workers.
Renewable fuels are definitely not a bad option. Hydrogen vehicles also seem like a good option too. why put a giant battery when you can have an efficient hybrid with a small battery and renewable fuel. Mazda is right that is a better solution and easier to implement.

Mazda is making some good moves right now. With this HCCI Tech combined with toyotas Hybrid tech that their borrowing they are gonna get some outstanding range, as well good car performance. Seems like as soon as toyota heard that mazda figured out HCCI they came running to them to partner, makes alot of sense for both sides

>>17838197
>A-anon, wait up!!!!

>>17836329
That's tiny anon. The fact that "the big city" is 1 million people shows that you are a rural rube.

>>17850091
>>17850194
I saw this 20 years ago as a kid in my head stuck at stop lights. If the AI was precise enough you wouldn't need to stop at an intersection the intersection could wave you through in packets at most you'd have to slow down or speed up to bunch up and then let a packet going the other way through would be nearly seamless.

>>17853053
I had the idea too, tried explaining it to my parents and they just went "if everyone started moving at the same time they'd crash into each other."

The logic behind it is sound, but resistance from society comes in the form of privacy concerns. For this to work, all the cars have to talk to each other and a server somewhere that organizes their actions in real time, unless the cars themselves split up the processing duties with on-board computers. They'd still be talking to some central server though, so they could be monitored and patched. So the company or companies in charge of this technology would have access to your whereabouts 100% of the time, and they'd likely sell that information to advertisers because that's the go-to way to make money in the information industry these days. They'd also hand that information over to the government when asked, or just give the government a backdoor into the servers so they don't even need a warrant. Resistance to this information-trading will be met with "if you aren't a criminal then you have nothing to hide!" And the same logic extends to painting people who value their privacy and continue using old tech as criminals. Do you want to live in that world?

>>17837714
Here goes nothing

>>17837714
roll

>>17837714
I don't think so. Electric car batteries do make more polution jus by building them.
Rawling

>>17836188
merci twingo

>>17837714
role

>>17836089
>openly implying drivers with automatics are more attentive, in control drivers.
How's that bus wifi treating (you)? Don't forget to thank the driver on your way off.

>>17836134
>they just want to zone out and pretend they're not driving
Exactly why automatics should be banned. They not just promote bad driving habits, but actively encourage it.

>>17857694
>>17857698
Actual research from insurance companies shows drivers with automatics do pay more attention and it improves their behavior in traffic, specially for older drivers.

>>17837714
rolling for a meme

>>17857712
>we asked 9 automatic drivers and 1 manual driver about their driving habits the post.
Yea and insurance companies also say red cars and males are more likely to cause a car crash.

>>17857766
They're not wrong.

It really always depends on the driver. if you have a seasoned driver, standard or automatic may not amount to anything, the manual may keep him paying more attention, if he's a stressed out dude already, it may make him drive more recklessly vs auto.

If you have a new fresh licensed driver, standard may still be difficult to handle vs automatic.

One thing I seen looking up accident rates of auto vs standard is they say that stick shift drivers tend to be more stressed while driving and that automatic transmission drivers have the about the same heart rate as their passengers. That alone is a interesting fact.

>>17857886
Are you sure this isn't less Automatic/Manual and more American driving culture? Not meant as a jab or anything.

>>17846592
Phosphorus is a scarce resource too.
It's not much of a problem now but if you switched world fuel economy from fossil to bio you'd cut the stockpile from hundreds of years worth to decades.

>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17857986
Are you really implying that americans drive differently than anyone else? If you ask any burger from Ohio they'll say Michigan drivers are shit, if you ask Indiana drivers theyll say Ohio drivers are shit. I tend to think everyone drives kinda shitty, just the other day I pulled out in front of someone I shouldn't have, I make mistakes like everyone else. I really wish people would stop saying one is superior to the other, its like arguing that my red car goes faster because its red, in the hands of a good driver it may not make a bit of difference, in the hands of a bad driver it may not make a difference either they're still bad drivers. What we can agree on is that the learning curve for standard is going to be different than it is for automatic.

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CO2 is the least harmful substance that your car emits lol.

Instead of focusing on reducing CO2, reduce the fucking gasses that eat your lungs and nervous system away (particulates, benzene, NOx, etc etc)

>>17858019
America has notoriously easy driving tests.

>>17858033
Still harder than Eastern Europe.

>>17858038
Russia is not Europe.

>>17858039
Who said anything about Russia??

>>17837714
NIGGA JAILFU MI
Which one gibes me a road head in my Pontiac?

>>17837714
trashy sounds interesting lets roll

>>17858047
Any of the methed out ones

>>17849887
Ohhh I'm sorry I see. If we just imagine electric trucks or buses and just use those handy-dandy overhead power lines, then we really don't need any private transportation!

>Brainwashed electric fag

>>17858038
Our driving test requires a minimum of 10 driving sessions(usually more), each 1h30mins and the exam around 40 minutes long.

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>>17853224
>Do you want to live in that world?

t. the guy who is carrying a GPS-enabled device in his pocket at all times

>>17857712

Is this for europe or north america? Because in NA manual transmissions have a much heavier demographic of "enthusiasts" that are way more prone to doing stupid shit and getting in crashes.

>>17837714
r-r-r-rollin'

>>17838197
>removing the whole point of riding a bike

mightaswell just ride a fucking moped at this point

>>17835891
rx9 confirmed quad-rotor with octuple oil injection

FUCK THEM GREENHOUSES LADS

>>17837714
russell please

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>>17835891
>>17836255
>>17837386
>>17837493
>>17840930
>>17843572

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>>17836188
MERCI TWINGO

>>17837714
Christy or Linda please

Mazdaspeed 3's are SICK