Which one would you rather have?

miata

miata

toyobaru because I hate convertibles.

>>17780748
I had Frs before and if I was looking at these cars I would look between brz performance package and Miata bbk/brembo package. Go with cheaper one

Toybaru because I could dd it more easily
Also what >>17780755 said

>>17780748
t o r q u e d i p

Daily driver? Toyburu
Weekend car? Miata

>>17780772
E C U F L A S H

Miata. Holy shit the new frs front bumpers little teeth are hideous though. I just looked them up to see which one had them, and in like 2 pictures they looked alright... But irl, like dogshit.

86, don't like the modern mx-5's as much, if it were the gen 1 Miata then that is a totally different story

>>17780778
Pretty much this

I already have a Lexus DD, so I'm looking at miatas now

>>17780755
get the RF then

BRZ because livable.

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miat

>>17780792
you would take a 20 year old mazda over a brand new brz?

>>17780897
Overpriced

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>>17780909
of course he should

>>17780909
People here a idiots and deluded themselves into thinking that the only good cars are the shitboxes they can afford

>>17780909
>not trading your new miata for 10x old miatas

>>17780792
>>17780914
Why would you prefer the old one over the new one other than le epic pop ups?

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BRZ

new Miata is horrifically ugly and a worse car to live with

>>17780921
>Why would you prefer the old one over the new one other than [the main reason to get the old one]

also better, cheaper aftermarket. better steering feel. low as fug belt line.

>>17780931
wet noodle 25 year old shitbox

Have fun replacing everything

Brand new I would take BRZ + performance mods.

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>>17780921
because old cars have less computers to get in your way. I have a 1980 mazda with a fucking carburetor and i wouldnt trade it for either of these. but if i had to choose i would go with miata of course

>>17780938
I already did that on my 20 year old not-Miata shitbox and it actually was pretty fun to be honest family. Would do again

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I have a GT86 because it can do pic related. I have 3 passengers quite frequently as well.

>>17780782
V O I D W A R R A N T Y

>>17780979
On a 5 year old car that you can by for $13k?

>>17780979
S T O C K F L A S H

>>17780772
People loved the s2000 despite it not having any torque until 6 grand, but hate the brz a for a much smaller dip. I'm confused.

I'm a Subarufag and even I would want the Miata.

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see, i'm only 5'4 so someone can actually sit behind me, and i don't like only having two seats

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I chose the GT86 because it's more usable as daily driver.
- Ability to drive with 2 passengers (I'm 6,3 nobody can sit behind me)
- More room for luggage (pic related)

If I'd had the money and another garage I'd buy a MX5 as second fun car though :)

>>17781017
memes

>>17780748
how can i possibly choose between two turds

>>17780968
all of them tiny manlets, naturally.

>>17780897
>30k+ starting thats GT money now

>>17780909

I owned a 20 year old Miata and if I'd had the money I would have replaced it with a BRZ.

>>17781314
No, girls. :^)

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>>17780748
I went with the BRZ. I liked both of them a lot, but the BRZ was more practical for a daily. I'll probably get an older Miata too once I have the space for it.

>>17780748
Honda S2000 AP1, with hardtop
stroker kit 2.4L
twincharger by using twin scroll turbo and supercharger

I want the FRS body but Miata suspension and drivetrain.

I really want to like the 86 but I can't stand boxer engines. Other than that it's pretty much every I wanted in a car after DDing a Miata for three years.

>hardtop
>bigger trunk/hatch
>vestigial rear seats
>longer gearing

Went with an old Mustang instead because poorfag but I miss the tiny-car handling.

>>17781001
I G N I T I O N C O U NT

>>17781693

whats wrong with boxer engines?

How much power can you get out of a BRZ with a relatively simple supercharger kit? 250bhp? 0-60 time should be right around 5sec, right?
I know the MX5 is faster, better on the launch, but the suspension is pretty shitty. BRZ is slower, but more tame on roll.

Theres also the fact that the Miata is known as a gar for gays.
But Subaru as a whole is known as a gay brand.

This is a tough decision.

>>17781745
they take 10 minutes longer to do a spark plug job, which triggers the /o/utist

also there's an imagined problem with uniform oil distribution in the crankcase and around the heads, again a problem for fedoras

also I guess some are triggered by the rumble caused by unequal length headers on EJs, because the average busrider's dream honda sounds like raspy shit in comparison

>>17781745
oh they also don't like the wide packaging that necessitates mcstruts, b/c when you're benchracaing those mcphersons are a deal-breaker

>>17781748
280bhp is the norm for kits on my country, 300whp is what most people end up with after a reasonable amount of mods and a dyno tune. Mine is stock except for performance tires, 0-60 gets as low as 6 seconds on good pavement and without passengers.

>>17781748
>Theres also the fact that the Miata is known as a gar for gays.
>But Subaru as a whole is known as a gay brand.
just get the toyota you retard

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Am I the only one a bit confused as to why you'd even consider these when the WRX STI exists?

>>17780897
>$6,500 more expensive
>100 lbs heavier

Nah.

>>17781810
boring pigfat awd family sedan

>>17781810
The STI starts at like $36k, and its a different size.
If you're throwing price out the window you might as well include the BMW Z4.

>>17781810
they're in a completely different price bracket u goon

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Toyobaru

>>17781810
One is an AWD turbo sedan, these are small rwd coupes.

>>17780748
neither because no homo

Miata but with an lsd its pretty pricey and in the winter an lsd is very useful.
With tip its almost more than a mustang gt.
And miatas dont go out in the winter so the depreciation is slow as fuck.

>>17781906
The LSD package is like 2 grand for the Miata. You can't get any new Mustang worth buying for 26 grand.

>>17780748
da doyoda

>>17781764

The biggest problem is the coolant and oil being in constant contact with the head gaskets. And if the gaskets do you need doing you have to pull the engine. Not the mention the timing belt is a bigger job.

t. owned a Subaru and got tired of those engines

>>17781928
in shitnada you have to get the gs.
If that package is sold in canada with the base model(GX) swear I buy the minute I get a gud job.
https://www.mazda.ca/en/shopping-tools/build-price/#/QC/2017/MX-5

>>17780748
>Which one would you rather have?
Toyobaru, as long as i get to keep my NA miata.

>>17781945
Wasn't that just a problem with the early N/A 2.5L EJ series having poor quality gaskets?

>>17780748
S2K with a hard top.

>>17781303
gb2 reddit

>>17781840
Nice stretch jeans.

>>17782021
He's reddit for making a reasonable post? /tv/ please go

>>17782043
>He's
You

Gt86 because more power, better aftermarket, more comfortable seating, more practical.

>>17782003

Those were the ones that really got publicity, but a ton of NA Subie engines had that issue. Even without a random failure they're still a pain to work on compared to an I4 in a similar car like a Miata.

It's like how everyone says the Ford modular V8 are bulletproof, but if you start talking to owners you see they eat timing chain guides every 80-100K.

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>>17780748
Miata with a hairdryer.

>>17780979
>buying a car new
youve cucked yourself there pablo

>>17780748
mx5 because the Toyota is just too ugly

>>17780748
3k civic

>>17781819
>100lbs
just tell you gf to fuck off and you save that kind of weight

>>17781679
>mods costing more than both cars put together

>>17782433
That is pretty ugly.

>>17781819
>100 lbs
Bitch the brz is fucking 400 lbs heavier than the miata rf.

>>17780748
The miata is objectively better. The only reason the go brz is if youre willing to sacrifice weight for a minute amount more of practicality and the safety of not being softtop.

>>17782506
>objectively with exceptions

>>17782510
The only advantage the brz has over the miata (practical/safer) is gained by sacrificing a more important metric (weight). Miata is objectively better.

>>17782496
The point is why the fuck would I pay $6,500 to make my car heavier by 100 lbs.

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>>17780748
Convertible BRZ.

>>17782433
the engine is yuropoor crap

>>17782621
ha! gay

>>17782707
This

>>17780748
BRZ

>>17780748

My brother has an FRS and let me drive it for a week instead of me renting a car. I liked it a lot. The BRZ is the same thing and I don't like convertibles anyway so gimme that.

>>17780748
Neither, I'll take an S2000.

>>17782621
this would actually make them sell

>>17782621
heresy
this thing doesnt need to be even slower

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>>17780748
The BR-Z. I need practicality, and Toyota made the front end on the 86 look fucking stupid.

>>17782722
Are they ever going to bring it back?

>>17783322
You saw what they did to the crx... Just think of what they'd do to the S2000... It's probably better if it stays dead.

>>17781945
>Timing belt is a bigger job
I don't think you have ever owned a car with a transversely placed engine.

>>17783334
You don't want a hybrid CVT S2000 anon? :^)

NDRF > BRZ > FRS

but seeing as the RF is pricey as hell and I'm cheap I'll get a FRS

>>17781945
.... If only the BRZ had a timing belt

>>17783346
Only if it's lifted 2 inches to fit my active and sporty lifestyle.

>>17780748
Whichever gets me laid please i'm so lonely

>>17783393
Infotainment system with connectivity to my iPhone 7 is a must, too.

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something I actually fit in while handling just as well

>>17782555
u only do that if u really want a hardtop

>>17783493
what a boring color

>>17780897
The RF isn't in the picture though, anon.

>>17783203
They really did fuck it up, this pseudo-futuristic phase that toyota has been going through needs to fucking end right now.

>>17780748
Why is the guy in the miata so fucking sad I mean just look at him

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>>17780748
This one

>>17784006
>This is fucking bullshit. I spent all of last night telling /o/ the Toyobaru is a slow piece of shit. There's no way it should be keeping up with me.

>>17783630
Or you could just buy the soft top and wait for 3rd party hard tops to be released for a fraction of the cost.

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>>17780748
How do they drive?

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>>17782433
I reeaally like these

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>>17780778
this

Both good cars.

I want an RX8

So I tallied up all the votes..
Toyobaru wins 18 due to practicality and seats.
Miata with 10
Honda s2k with 3
Fiat Spyder w/ 2 plus my vote

>>17784055
Frs is more planted but stock tires will give up sooner then you think.
Miata grips but body roll will make you think you are taking corner too fast

>>17780748
3k s2k

>>17780748
S2000

>>17781748
subaru is a lesbian brand, if anything, it's anathema to gays--utilitarian, unfashionable

>>17784126
>I want an RX8
It's funny because that you can buy a RX8 and even put a brand new engine in it and it still won't be even close to half the cost of a Toyobaru or MX5. The RX8 handling and cornering is on par with both as well.

>>17780938
I've owned my Miata for 4 years and haven't had to replace shit except for the ac compressor

S2000 c :

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Miata of curse

>>17786355
That actually looks pretty good.

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86

>>17786406
gutless 4 cyllinder that doesn't take to boost and doesn't rev though

>i-i-it's not about the engine, muh corners

what fun is good cornering without power to make an exit
successive slow, sharp corners are where miata owners wish they got a less balanced drifter's shitbox and everyone else is glad they have more than 200HP

>>17786475
Its pretty easy to get over 200bhp from a Miata, and they're not slow. They're just tiny.

>>17786475
>gutless 4 cyllinder
you could have just said "4 cylinder"

>>17780979
>not just reflashing when you take it in

retard alert

>>17786475
>a gutless 4 cyl that doesn't take boost
Nigga what universe do you live in

>>17786537
Most people don't realize just how much abuse racers put those little blocks through. They take a hammering.

Miata

Miata. Less of a monster drinking acne covered reverse hat wearing crowd. At least where I live.