Name a car that is: RWD has at least 200hp (petrol engine) price

3rd/4th generation mustang or camaro/firebird (350 only for third gen f body). Spend at least 4 grand on the ca, and a few more on restoration and/or handling mawdz, embrace the mullet, and you're out the door well under 6 grand. Then when you want to make more power, there's a lot hidden away in those choked 80s engines.

>>17776944
>has to be RWD
don't know why because asside from that shit the Civic Si fits everything

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moosestain
G37/370z
IS250
86

>>17776956
The 350 is just God tier. You can replace headers, put a new holley carb and cam in the engine for like 800$ and make a guaranteed 150-200 hp extra.

>can't name a BMW
piss off
335i is the best used car you can buy under 20k

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>>17776944
E55 amg
490hp and 700nm
Fairly reliable
13k max
Comfy af but fast as well(0-60 in low 4 secs)

>>17776944

Nissan 370z

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>>17776988
Never split the sack!

>>17776944
Porshe cayman S

>but muh ISM bearing reliability!

can be permanently fixed with an oil fed bearing and then your never have to touch it again

>>17777012
tell me more about bmw reliability pls.
No I mean im curious, is the 335i engine legit good?

Two 350zs

>>17776961
>don't know why
Because /o/tism

>>17776956
FPBP

American muscle is the best performance value on Earth

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Mercedes-Benz SL55 AMG.
RWD
About 500hp
Start at 9k used on autotrader
It's a Mercedes-Benz, so great german reliability
Not a bavarian shitbox

>>17777014
>>17777150
Are either of these available with MANual transmission or are they autotragic only like the 500E is?

>>17776944
older gen mustang gt, i got mine for 22k with 15k miles, got dynoed and it makes around 485 to the crank

>>17777150
>chrysler era benz
no thanks
>>17777158
Benz drivers are lazy old fucks there are no Manuals.

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R34 GT-T

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>>17777189
>Benz drivers are lazy old fucks there are no Manuals.

>daily drive a old MANUAL petrol powered W124 Mercedes Benz
>it's actually a surprisingly fun car with good handling characteristics but lacks power
>look into it's sportier version: 5000E
>It comes with a V8 and Porsche designed suspension...
>FUCK YEAR Now we are talking.
>... and it is autragic only.
>FUCK.
>Look into newer AMG models
>again perfect apart from being autotragic only
What the fuck is wrong with this world? Seriously why aren't they putting the manuals to their sportier models and automatics in the models that actually are bought by lazy fucks that don't care about performance or driving dynamics?

>>17777049
I don't think I've ever heard of bearings in the newer Cayman engines failing

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The 2.0T ATS

>>17777257
Because for the longest time automatic was considered a luxury and manuals were for basic bitch models
Now its the norm, but luxury car buyers are still not interested in manuals in their daily drivers or grand touring cars

>>17777272
These are so hilariously cheap for what's essentially a 4 door Camaro. With the magnetic suspension they handle incredibly well

>>17777257
>Mclaren SLR has the same 5 speed autotragic as my dads 1999 c class
>I have it now too
>my next car will have it most likely too
Its like they unintentionally made the best gearbox and forgot to make a manual counterpart that can withstand close to the same power (1000nm)

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>>17776944
You actually WANT an 86?
Get an 86. Disregard the memes.

>>17776944
miata (modded)

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>>17777178
>crank hp

S2000

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>>17776944
buy a Miata and mod it up to 200hp. easily under 23K and extremely reliable

>>17776944
should have added electric motors to the front wheels.
and less fat.

>>17777158
Manual transmission swaps have been done to the early AMGs on rare occasions but I've never heard of modern AMGs with m/t.
But whatever, imagine a 1997 C36 AMG with m/t. It won't get better than this.

>>17777687
wouldn't be worth getting shat on every time you mention it on /o/. might as well get a gt86

>>17777272
>>17777282
how's the 2.0t and manual trans in this?

>>17778345
the only downside is that it has an awful exhaust note, but mods pretty well

>>17778345
almost rarer than a unicorn but a manual cts-v isn't that rare.

>>17776944

Get a Toyota GT86 fampai

>>17778362
There are dozens of 2.0l manuals for sale in the Toronto area just off lease

turbo miata

>>17777101
No, the bmw reliability meme is not a meme

>>17777150
Well, Baden-Württemberg is kinda close to Bavaria.

>>17777628
They made that tranny in like 1990 and seriously over engineered it, last I checked the S65 was still using it in 2013

>>17776944
Pontiac GTO Pontiac G8 Chevy SS.

spoon

Ford XR6

infiniti g35h

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>>17776944
Any S-Chassis, unless you're in Burgerland with the cucked versions.

>>17776944
Honda S2000 AP1
Nissan Silvia
Nissan Cefiro

>>17778822
Wet noodles

>>17776944
JDM imported silvia

>>17778850
>what are sway bars and other chassis braces

>>17778864
Or you can just buy a car with a good chassis instead of trying to polish a turd

>>17777662
420 to the wheels, i know all you cucks measure your cars at the crank since you since they are completely stock

>>17778864
>sway bar
>chassis bracing
You probably think a stiff chassis means a car with hard spring rates, don't you?how embarrassing

>>17778714
>implying anyone on /o/ knows Baden-Württemberg
99.99% know Bavaria and Berlin, that's it.

>>17778677
It is a meme if the bmw in question has a naturally aspirated I6, those will run forever. The 335i is a nightmare when it comes to maintenance because of its early turbo I6. The newer turbo I6's are pretty solid though.

>>17776944
crown vic

you never said it has to handle or be fast

>>17776944
Corvette C6

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297kw

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>>17776944
I thought this was going to be harder

NA/NB Miata with a tarbo

>>17776944
Mazdaspeed miata

>>17780238
335i is probably the best tuner car out there right now. Can make a shitton of HP, RWD, you have forged internals, you can upgrade turbos, etc. But the reliability is shit. The n54 was notorious for requiring $4k on the side for repairs every year. HPFP, Blown turbos by 75k, wastegate rattle, gasket, i can go on all day. With the introduction to the N55 in 2010, BMW ironed out the majority of the previous engines problems, but at the cost of HP. The n54 (dual small turbo) engine tunes higher than the single turbo n55 engine.
So what i'm trying to say is the engine on that car is good, the problem is everything else it requires to run.

What is closest thing to reliable as fuck BMW 335i that one can get?

>>17777777

SC300

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>>17776944
Toyota MR2 GTS

>>17776944
4 350z's

Pontiac G8 GT

or if youre lucky, you can find G8 GXP's for near 23k.

>>17776944
MR2
Prob some old volvos
Ford cortina (With largest engine), Capri 2.8i,

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>>17776944
IS300

>>17777204
You can get an R32 GT-R for less than €18k here, and even though I'm not much of a Skyline fanboy I'd rather have a GT-R than a GT-T

HARDMODE

must be 2 door
manual transmission

>>17780397
mk2 MR2

>>17780397
GTO

>>17780296
Audi S4, Ford Taurus SHO, Audi A6 3.0t, American V8's.

>>17778714
Well, yeah. But compare cars from Baden-Württemberg to cars from Bavaria.

Bavaria: R8, i8, TT, i3, A5...
Baden-Württemberg: SLR, AMG GT, Carrera GT, 911, SLS AMG, 918, 959...

>>17777189
>>17777158

Yeah, it's only with 5 or 7-speed-auto, but you gotta consider that this car is also a convertible. I speak from experience when saying that a manual gearbox is really distracting when driving a convertible

>>17777150
Theres a reason why they start at 9k you ret

>>17780397
Easy
Ponatic firebird 5.7 v8, 335 hp 2 door manual literally 3k where I live

>>17776944
Toyota 86/Subaru BRZ. Done.

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>>17780367
>R32 GT-R
>RWD

>>17780521
The 86/BRZ makes 197hp.

>RWD
>At least 200hp
>price under 23k used
>fairly reliable

You literally just described the most-memed-on car on this board. The GT86 is actually really good for what it is, to be honest. Just don't expect to do highway pulls.

>>17780307
>fairly reliable
>posts car that wants to kill its driver

???

>>17776944
5th gen 2SS camaros can be had for under 23k pretty easily

>>17780529
Close enough.

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CANT STOP THE CLUBBY

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>>17776944
Also while I remember, the Toyota Altezza RS200/Lexus IS300.

>>17776944
Genesis Coupe

>>17778387
can't do it kouhai, /o/'s gonna make fun of me if i get one. rip

>>17776944
Mercedes-Benz C-Class/E-Class either 4 or 6 cylinder models.
Lexus IS, GS or LS
Cadillac CTS or ATS
Infiniti G37, M56
Jaguar XF, these are actually pretty reliable.

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>>17780407
>Audi S4
>Reliable

>>17777257
Mercs are autobahn machines, they're made so that bosses can commute 200km in one hour without issues nor worries. they're not made for the tougay

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>>17776944
Aussies do it best

>>17780478
That would be?

>>17780537
to the crank

lul

>>17781087
So like every other car is measured new?

>>17781094
there's a sizeable difference between 200 to the wheels in tip top condition and 200 to the crank used/dilapidated

>>17776944
F150 ecobooost. There is no other answer

C5 corvettes are $10-15k now, which leaves 8-10k for sikk mawdz. Some updates in suspension and maybe a tune/turbo and you'll be over 300 hp for >$20k. And corvettes are reliable DD's that can get 30 mpg on the highway.

>>17781110
The point is very manufacturer speaks in crank hp. Whp is aftermarket tuning.

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>>17781087
actually only 173

>>17781191
manufacturers speak in crank HP because they test the engine at the crank

its really hard for a consumer to test at the crank so Dynos measure at the wheal

>>17777678
S2000

>>17776944
Lexus GS.

>>17780546
This

>>17781211
Congrats you found a whp measurement.
>>17781224
Yes, we're on the same page. So then why are you like "at the crank lul" when every other car is also measured at the crank new?

>>17780558
>caring about the opinions of autistic virgins on a Filipino kayaking forum