M5 F90 first pictures

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6tZGOKDRkk
608hp 750nm
rwd biased part time AWD

Only if it comes in manual

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>>17748884
this gen is auto only because nobody was buying the previous gen manual M5 and M6.

>>17748884
why would you even want a car like this in manual

BMW would be wasting money

>>17748884
This niggermobile is awd, you think it's going to be stick shift?!?

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>normal 5-series is G30
>m5 is F90
wut

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>>17748878
>M5 F90 first pictures

WOW.....it looks like every other fucking BMW...

Like come on now.

>>17748878
garbage

>>17748953
So much this

It look like a 2010 BMW.

>>17748878
Your generic bmw.. yawn

>>17748926
because it uses the same engine block from the M5 F10.

ARR BMW FROM AFTER 2001

ARR

ROOK

SAME

>>17749003
So does the G10 M550i

>>17749043
*G30

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>>17748889

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>>17748878
Wow, how the mighty have fallen
How do you go from THIS to THAT?

You faggots are too poor to buy any new bmw with manual transmissions so no wonder they are stopping making them, what will the future look like...

>>17749068
Electric doesn't work with manual at all so we were always fucked.

>>17749061
They fell for the memes

>>17749076
wrong

>>17749084
Well by all means anon, show me one of these wonderful manual electric cars.

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>using Lexus blue

BMW knows their new overlord.

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>>17749061
even worse, from THIS
wide grille a shit and E36 tier

>>17749091
Morgan Plus E, off the top of my head
pretty sure there's more

>>17748953
M Cars are supposed to only have subtle cosmetic differences. It's not like a hot hatchback where they differentiate by chavving them out.

>>17749061
That's sexy af. I would buy an old BMW if most of them weren't in such a shitty shape.

>>17749105
Not a one-off you dink

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>>17749230
>moving the goalposts

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>>17749111
>M Cars are supposed to only have subtle cosmetic differences.

You are mistaking BMW with Audi.

There is a huge difference between an E30 and a E30 M3. nothing is Chavy about an E30 M3

>>17748886

Goddamn that's nice.

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>>17748878
>6.2L V8
>415hp and torque
>RWD
>magneride suspension
>6 speed manuél
>comfy interior
>large boot
>half the price of the M5
>cheap to maintain and repair
Why would you buy anything else? Bow down to your true gawdmusheen.

>>17749245
>a huge difference
lol
I'm a sucker for E30s but come on, it's not a car that stands out

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>>17749272
>discontinued

>>17749295
Production ends October 27th. The Australian government is to blame for the death of their motor industry, making it prohibitively expensive to build there. You might have noticed Ford, Nissan, and Toyota don't build there anymore either.

>>17749272
the m5 walks circles around it though.

>>17749061

If I could go to a BMW dealer right now and buy an E34 brand new with 0 miles I would so fucking do it

>>17749092
>lexus
Literally who?
Dark blue is the BMW trademark paint.
Just like red is for Ferrari and orange for General Lee.

>>17749094
nothing wrong with the wide grille or e36, autismo

>>17749295
post more naked aryan beauties

>>17749355
ikr
>>17749455
>nothing wrong with the wide grille
that's arguable
>or e36
now you jumped the shark

>>17749272
>415hp
lamao a 550i has 444hp

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>>17749061
>>17749094
the e34 looks good,the new 5 series looks good
fuck off
they peaked with the e39 but the new ones aren't ugly,if anything they look better than the equivalent merc or audi

>>17749577
>>17749354
>costs twice as much

>>17749593
>they peaked with the e39
opinion discarded
they jumped the shark when they abandoned BMW's signature design with circular headlamps, and E39 is the ugliest of its era.

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>>17749639
But the e39 still has circular headlamps, pic related.

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hail! hail! hail and kill!

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>>17749742
behind a glass, much like the E36
at least the E38 LCI and E46 tried to fix that a bit

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>>17749751
kek, saved

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>>17749639
ah yes
a car should look the same for 50 years and not evolve

>>17748884
The M division can only offer manual up to 450hp/ 600Nm. Their marketing leader said that's the reason why they won't offer manuals with their new cars,

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>>17749292
>those boxy flares
>not standing out.

lol you're an idiot.

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>>17749783
mercedes tried to implement the 4 round seperate headlights until the early 00's.
the lamp design did not age very well with modern car body designs

>>17749803
>m division can only offer manual up to 450hp
I know their marketing leader said so but it's bullshit.
How come the M5 F10 and M6 F13 could have 600hp with manual transmissions.

>>17749245
there is a small visual difference between an M Sport and a true M E24, E36, E34 and E39 though.
this is nothing new

>>17749796
nice strawman
you can evolve while being faithful to your past
>>17749817
it looks like shit on that car but that has a lot to do with other design features
the W211 looks much better

>>17748983
This.

BMWs may be great, I wouldn't know because they combined bland and ugly in one styling package and couldn't lower my self to drive something that is associated with try hard faggots, and self absorbed pieces of shit.

>>17749593
Sorry mate the e60 had the high revving n/a V10 of the gods. Looks are subjective but I think it looks a little better too. Also
>200mph

>>17749593
How is it possible to have taste this shitty?

Those rims are fucking disgusting

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>03' 540 m-sport

>>17750449
name one brand that has "evolved" with staying true to it's past
w211 looks better but still looks dated when compared to the e60

>>17748884
Get with the times grandpa. Manual is being phased put for superior automatic gearboxes.

>>17751786
>"Manual is being phased put for superior automated manual gearboxes"
Fixed for you grandpa. Stick to your hydromatic slushbox.

>>17748878
I had seen the M5 in other leaks before, at first I didn't like it but now the design has already grown on me.
I only wish it had more aggressive fender flares

>>17748884
Stop asking for manuals and not buying them. You're part of the problem faggot.

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>>17751740
I'll name ten because fuck you, that's why
>Lamborghini
>Aston Martin
>Porsche
>Chevrolet
>Ford
>Dodge
>Fiat
>Mini
>VW
>Jeep

>>17751972
>the design has already grown on me
nice euphemism for resignation

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>>17753101
This is now a godmachine thread

>>17748889
And Into the trash it goes....

>>17748884
a manual transmission would just make it slower, especially with a faggot like you driving

>>17748889
>nobody was buying
>manual M cars shooting in value like crazy while auto M cars depreciate

>>17753101
>dodge
>VW
>Chevrolet
>Fiat
Lmao wat
rest are meme brands
Name one classic Volkswagen that resembles the VW Aerton or new Passat

>>17753124
http://blog.caranddriver.com/its-last-call-for-the-manual-transmission-bmw-m5/
>“Demand had dropped to zero”

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>>17753125
That's not how it works
name one current BMW that looks like a BMW

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>>17753125

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>>17753125
and "meme brands" isn't an argument

>>17748889
only boomers afford/dumb enough for new M cars and they too old to drive damn manual

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>>17753125
:^)

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>>17753125

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>>17753171
>>17753162
>>17753155
>>17753147
>>17753146
If you honestly think these cars resemble the originals in any way you are a retard.

>>17753179
If you don't see the resemblance, YOU are the retard. Of course they're different, they're supposed to evoke, not be identical to the originals.

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>>17753179
>>17753190
Oh and BTW the new Challenger is the embodiment of round headlights well integrated in a modern car.

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>>17753190
Lmao okay, in that case there is the same ''''resemblance'''' between the new BMWs and the old ones too.

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>>17753196
>4 round lights/coronas
>twin kidney grilles
>bumper vents
>side vents and markers
>hoffmeisters kink
>side lines
>horizontal tail light lines
If you can't see the iconic bits from the classic bimmers you should get your eyes checked.

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>>17753213
and honestly I see BMW getting attacked for not making enough design changes so this whole discussion is retarded.

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>>17753213
>exception from years ago
lmao okay
>>17753198
E36 is already the shitty nu-BMW
also if you don't see the resemblance between the cars I posted and their predecessors you'd probably say there's no resemblance between E21 and E30
>>17753217
because nu-BMW is bland and boring and needs a change urgently

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>>17753217
as you can see, E39 onwards have the disgusting pig face
the maximum exponent of this is the Active Tourer
>4 round lights/coronas
the whole headlight assembly takes priority when looking at it
>twin kidney grilles
durr, might as well say they have a logo
they have evolved into pigface BTW
>bumper vents
meme
>side vents and markers
again meme
>hoffmeisters kink
that's probably the only remain of classic BMW
>side lines
lolwut
>horizontal tail light lines
almost inappreciable

>>17753221
>bland and boring
BMW's have never looked particularly ''exciting'' (maybe with a few exceptions), they've always had a reserved, elegant look.
Long wheelbase, short overhangs, stretched bonnet, a set-back passenger cell.
Then again people are attacking BMW designs for dated looking while some /o/tists are claiming the designs shouldn't change lol.

>>17753242
I'm not saying they shouldn't change, I'm saying they should bring back the glory days like so many other brands have done. You can look elegant without looking like an appliance.
E38 LCI and E46 tried to do that with some success

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>>17753303
forgot pic
See: reserved and elegant, not bland and boring

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official release is today, some data is in:
0-60 3.2 seconds
0-124 in 11.1 seconds

>>17749824
They couldn't and the trannies broke down all the time

>>17753861
source on m5 f10 manual transmissions breaking down?

>>17748878
Looked like a 15-18 wrx at first. Ran out of ideas and went to subaru for styling?

>>17754272
it looks the same because 4 doors and similar colour?
lol, are you a female?

>>17749230
You literally said
>show me one
>shows you one
>not that one hurrr durr!!!

Funny how after BMW releases a new M3 or M5 it takes Mercedes AMG and Audi RS some years to build a proper competitor
Fastest 4 door production car currently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6J8IfLsgVs

>>17754272
get some glasses

>>17748884
I drive manual all my life now and, off course, have driven automatics as well. Slushboxes and modern automatics.
I love my manual car.
And there is no world in which i can imagine getting a manual in a car like this.
stop thinking you're special because you know how to drive a manual. In yurop everybody does it.

>>17753823
>118k€ base price
>20k€ for the "first edition"
>8-gear M Steptronic with flappy paddles

>>17757397
RS7 and E63 cost the same if not more and have been using slushboxes since forever and nobody complained.

>>17748884
I hope they make a manual M5 F90 and charge an extra €5k and call it the fedora tax. Putting a manual in this car would make it slower so what's the fucking point?

>>17757397
You need to stop thinking that all automatics are bad. The 8-speed automatic transmission that is in the new M5 is great.

>>17757066
Yeah but what they built is pretty damn impressive. I wish BMW would take a few years to build a proper M3.

>>17757417
>>17757433
Apparently I used the greentext wrong.
I just wanted to add information that was added to the intranet, I myself am a bmw guy. Also why would I complain about a car I won't be able to affort?

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>>17757445
>why would I complain about a car I won't be able to affort?

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>>17748878
it looks very good but more expensive than used lambo

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>>17749448
>lexus
>Literally who?

kek

>>17749448
>blue
>BMW
i think you mean weebaru

>>17757066
>Fastest 4 door production car currently
Giulia?

>>17757317
>In yurop everybody does it.
and they wouldn't have it any other way
the only europeans I know who want automatics are people with disabilities, for example the sad case in a Volvo owners club of a guy whose left leg is failing so he needs something without a clutch

>>17757426
>>17757433
>hurr durr speed is what makes driving pleasurable
jump off a cliff already retards

Should I an:
e39 530d
e46 320d
e87 120d
or go audi a3 8p 2.0tfsi quattro

Why does this car have an aluminium hood instead of a carbon fiber one?

>>17757898
>yes
>yes
>look up if it's one of the engines prone for timing-chain issues
>the only one with a gas-engine

>>17757691
the giulia can't do 0-200kph in 11.1 seconds
and remember that it loses to the m3 on almost every track review

>>17757898
Should I an:
You should an hero

>>17757655
the gsf is slow as shit
it was "better" to JC because it has a n/a engine

>>17757954
>muh spoon and egg races
7:32 cuck

>>17757978
same day same driver tests speak of the car's actual performance, not some unsupervised pre production test mule time.
Funny how retarded italishills fail to realize how useless unsupervised track times are.

>>17757986
>damage control

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>>17757986
>BMW unsupervised pre production test mules are unable to beat Alfa's unsupervised pre production test mules
German engineering supremacy at its finest

>>17757693
You're talking out of your ass.
A lot of normies drive automatics. And rightfully so.
I wouldn't know anybody that would buy this car AND insists on manual.
Source: i'm actually European. I drive in Europe. I know people who get cars like this in Europe. I know people who insist on manuals in Europe. I know the two groups have 0 overlap.

>>17757968
It made better use of its power and it also handled more naturally, making it more fun to drive.

Chris Harris liked it better than the F10 for the same reasons.
https://youtu.be/sIHQfqwLYys

>>17758003
There are no BMW test mule lap times.
I was talking about actual unbiased track reviews where the old underpowered M3 rapes the Alfa on track which italicucks love to deny.

>>17757947
its 2006 so M47TU2D20 does that have a problem? I heard N47 did
the a3 is a bi fuel with cng what do I need to know about it?
>>17757963
helo hows ur shitbox treating you

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>>17748884
>All this kids falling for such easy bait
Phew /o/ really has the most summerchilds

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How can American sedans ever compete? This is like first league vs. amateurs league.

>>17758009
>I wouldn't know anybody that would buy this car AND insists on manual.
of course, because that car is a fucking autotragic

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>>17758027
>There are no BMW test mule lap times.
so you admit BMW literally can't compete?

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>>17758657
reminder that BMW only managed to win Le Mans once

>>17750621
m8 looks so weird when spelled properly. I think I'm getting dizzy.

>>17758657
BMW doesn't care about setting up fake lap times, they got nothing to prove unlike Alfa.
But even after all this advertising and publicity stunts the Giulia still sells like 5 cars per month.

>>17753823
>0-60 3.2 seconds
It means this car can do sub 3 seconds.

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>amerifats searching for flaws
>looking stupid because trying too hard

>>17758757
Oh yeah, the M5 F10 official time was 4.4 seconds while reviews and real life tests proved that it can do a 3.7-3.9 second 0-60.
I wonder how fast the 40 year edition or the Competition package will be, maybe 2.5-2.7 seconds?

>>17758759

Cuz it is German. Ebil car.

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>>17757915
Asking the real questions and be ignored.

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>>17758759
Friendly reminder that the red fucking paint you see in the picture costs 19.800€.

>>17758780
rich people don't care lol
>>17758778
so far I remember M5's never had carbon hoods, apparently the m5 doesn't need it

>>17758780
Sauce?

Probably from your triggered arse

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>>17758788
https://www.motor1.com/news/177582/2018-bmw-m5-videos/

>there’s a First Edition featuring a fancy Frozen Dark Red Metallic paint from the BMW Individual catalog that will jack up the starting price by €19,500

>>17758804
the first edition comes with bigger wheels as standard, upgraded seats, individual interior trim, individual paint and it's a limited run car.
A fully optioned M5 probably costs even more.

>>17758821
>limited run
I mean limited production run, 400 examples will be built.

>>17758787
>apparently the m5 doesn't need it

Wrong.

The M5 would surely beneficiate from a carbon fiber hood, but the jews @ Bmw won't give it to you as a standard feature.

You have to buy the expensive performance pack and or other Bmw M™ parts

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>>17758804

neato... If you can't afford it, stay mad and poor.

>>17758834
>19.500€ of red paint are somewhat an acceptable price if you're rich
>Bmw can ask me to pay Ford Focus money to paint a car but it's ok because I'm rich so companies are free to scam me as they want

You fanboys are the reason premium brands like Bmw are now shit, because you allowed them to sell you shit priced as pure gold.

>>17758846
Pretty much describes how Apple became successful.

>>17758765
>how fast the 40 year edition or the Competition package will be, maybe 2.5-2.7 seconds?

I remember the BMW M5 teaser threads confirming that it can do sub 3 seconds. With the 40 year edition or the Competition package, its official time would be 2.9 seconds, then this will translate into 2.4 seconds. Audi and MB will follow up on this

>>17758846
>19.500€ of red paint are somewhat an acceptable price if you're rich

See >>17758821

Learn to read before jump to conclusions.

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This video triggers some of /o/ guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf2qDAEZc2w

>>17748886
do the seats need to be so fricking huge?

>>17758857
it's not a limited edition colour specific for this new M5, you can have it as optional from the individual line.

The problem is that this same colour costed 5000€ on an M4.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2015/09/15/bmw-m4-in-frozen-red-metallic-shows-up-in-frankfurt/

>As of March 2015, the matte finishes – BMW Frozen White, Frozen Black, Frozen Red and Silver for the sporty midsize M3 and M4 – are available through the BMW Individual program and can be purchased for around 5,000 euros.

This article confirms that 19.500€ is the price for the sole paint

http://gtspirit.com/2017/08/21/official-2018-bmw-f90-m5/?nonamp=1

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>>17759271

>This article confirms that 19.500€ is the price for the sole paint

False.

>The BMW M5 First Edition. First come, first served is the motto as BMW M GmbH launches the new BMW M5 with the option of a "First Edition" special-edition model limited to a worldwide run of 400 examples and available from the start of sales in autumn 2017. Deliveries of the BMW M5 First Edition will begin in spring 2018 and production will continue until June 2018 at the latest.

>The new BMW M5 First Edition has exclusive Frozen Dark Red Metallic paintwork and also includes BMW Individual high-gloss Shadow Line trim with extended features. This means that the kidney grille, the M gills and the four tailpipes of the sports exhaust all come in high-gloss black. The M5 First Edition is fitted as standard with 20-inch seven-double-spoke lightalloy wheels in black.

>The BMW M5 First Edition also has a very individual flavour inside. The Piano Finish Black applications are complemented by a plaque on the centre console indicating the car's production number ("M5 First Edition 1/400") and pointing to the exclusivity of this BMW M5. The M5 First Edition comes as standard with high-quality M multifunction seats. It is also available with fullleather upholstery in Smoke White with red contrast stitching.

>The exclusive new BMW M5 First Edition is available for a €19,500 supplement over the standard M5.

https://www.netcarshow.com/bmw/2018-m5_first_edition/
http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/08/21/world-premiere-2018-f90-generation-bmw-m5-first-awd-m5-ever/

Get rekt, BMW hater

>>17759320
>Get rekt, German haters
fify

>>17759320
German cars shouldn't be allowed to be painted in red because they look dull as fuck, also red + black rims is nigger tier.

>implying that these cars aren't aimed at chinese tasteless niggers and actual petrol sandniggers

>literally added new turbos
Daily reminder that the last great M5 was the e60

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>>17759365
>German cars shouldn't be allowed to be painted in red because they look dull as fuck
>red + black rims is nigger tier

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

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>executive car
>need for speed launch

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>>17759369
It is the lag-free turbo.
It is ok when STI has it.

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>>17759418
it is faster than your boycar and most cars.

It is a tribute to BMW GTR in nfs most wanted.

>>17758652
do you even know what is meant by autotragic?
slushboxes. viscous coupling.
has absolutely nothing to do with modern, computer controlled gearboxes.

>>17758731
>But even after all this advertising and publicity stunts the Giulia still sells like 5 cars per month.
>bimmer shills have to lie about Giulia sales in their desperate attempt to damage control
can't make this shit up lmao
Giulia hurt BMW sales so much that the C klasse dethroned the 3 series as the top selling premium D segment in Europe

>>17759592
>ZF8 doesn't have a torque converter
tell me more about your misconceptions on transmissions

>>17759739
>giulia hurt bmw sales
nice alternative facts
italicuck jokes are the best.

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>>17759739
>>17759978

>Giulia hurt BMW sales so much
>implying

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>>17760066
My point exactly. How did the C class rise to the top? Because the Giulia acted as a Ross Perot of car sales, taking away from the 3 series.
>>17759978
So it fell from the top because it became shit? Is that what you're saying? Because the C class didn't change much

>>17760110

BMW 3 series is a little long in the tooth. It is amazing that car is still making sales. Next Gen will obliterate an italicuckcar.

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>>17748878
>another bubble box from bmw
daily reminder bmw is a shadow of its former self, more so than other auto makers

>>17760164

Well, it is still screaming BMW to others.

>>17760110
>>17760066
Current 3 series is sold since 2011
Current C class since 2015
Giulia since 2016
No shit a 6.5 year old model isn't selling well anymore?

>>17760371
>crying inside: the post

>>17757915
Better not drop tool box on that hood. GM marketing team made me scared to drive my f150

>>17748878
Wasn't the previous 3 series the E90? It took them 38 years to use all the Es, but only 13 years to use all the Fs?

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You manual only tards are fucking hilarious. No one buys manuals in higher end sports cars, it's why most car makers don't even offer it. It doesn't even matter if the manual is better or not, it's simple supply and demand. You guys bitch and moan about BMW not offering a manual yet none of you could ever afford a M5 lol.

>>17749309
Lmao it wasn't the govt. No one was paying 55k for an SS with a shitty taxi interior.
They didn't keep up, they didn't make sales.
I'd go 40k with that shit interior, sure, but at 55k I'm expecting at least a fucking high res screen and less plastic shit.

m5 very unassuming for a car that does 0-60 in 3.2sec. love or hate it

>>17760803
>0-60 in 3.2sec
that is a factory time. In the real world, it will be less. more like sub 3 seconds.

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>>17760420
this lmao
>>17760371
It doesn't even look dated yet, fuck off
keep trying to damage control. You can't touch Alfa, cuck

>>17760775
>less plastic shit
you'd be surprised by the kind of shit in the 4 series
it even has plastic that pretends to be aluminum lol

>>17759369
E60 was hot garbage.

>>17760819
porsche is the only car maker that underrates their 0-60 times.

BMW will overrate their 0-60 like everyone else

>>17760819
>factory time
>slower than real world

lmao what fucking world dude, those numbers are made in fucking pristine conditions with everything going perfectly

>>17748889
Looks like a big pile of dogshit, my man.
Another generation of M5 is ignored and forgotten.

>>17748878
thats really fucking ugly

>>17760928
>BMW will overrate their 0-60

The reviews of German cars disagree with you.

The M5 F10 official time was 4.4 seconds while reviews and real life tests proved that it can do a 3.7-3.9 second 0-60.
S8 plus (large executive car): factory time: 3.9 seconds while real world: 3.3 seconds
GLC63 (SUV): factory time: 3.9 while real world: 3.6 seconds

>>17760948
see >>17761021

>>17757698
>speed is what makes driving pleasurable
It's an M5, you retard.

>>17757698
You want your 2 ton landbarge luxury rocket to handle like a miata and have a manual? Tall order. Become an engineer.

>>17761021
>>17761023
>paid reviews

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>>17761057
not an argument
>>17761103
nice strawman bimmercuckold

>>17761103
Oh and BTW I'm a mech engineering student so I'm already at it.

>>17758511

http://www.cadillac.com/v-series/cts-v-sedan.html

More horsepower, better styling, lower price.

New bimmers are mediocre. Audi and Mercedes are the better choices currently.

>>17761139
Not an argument
I don't care if you are triggered by their superiority.

>>17761171
>mech engineering student
When you need a test pilot hit me up. Right now I'm training on a TGM-79C GM Canard right now. It's pretty fucking hard but I'm going to keep at it. Wish me luck.

>>17761177
It is slow than its German competitors in track.

>>17761188
But cheaper.

>>17761177
>http://www.cadillac.com/v-series/cts-v-sedan.html
>More horsepower, better styling, lower price.
>New bimmers are mediocre
agreed
>Audi
>better choice
top fucking kek
as much as I hate nu BMW you have to be clinically insane to say Audi is superior

>>17761186
Good luck anon
I doubt I'll ever work in the big auto companies though, seems more likely that I'll direct my efforts to performance tuning instead and making one-offs basically from scratch (except for the engine, bespoke engines are too expensive)

>>17761197
>Muh Audi hating
You sure have your nerve, telling him off that way.

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>>17761208
>pay 92k euro
>get this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZLYse15cj4

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>>17761222
>pay 100K euro (import tax)
>get one of these

topkek

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>>17761222
That is prototype. It is €89,900 plus tax, not 92K.

The final production of SQ7 performs so well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP7MuY9bqEk

>>17761229
>no one mentions GMC
>posts GMC
Stay obsessed, friend.

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>>17761177
>More horsepower
muh brute forcing power. It still lost against its competitors
>better styling
topkek
>lower price.
of course, American shitboxes being cheap are POS.

>>17761253
no, that anon is right. GM, not GMC you stupid fat redneck.

>>17761263
>being this stupid
I'm done. I give up.

>>17761241
>plus tax
>implying the govt will let you keep the tax
BTW audi.de says 91900 and I rounded up to 92k

>>17761263
>GM isn't General Motors Company
topkek

>>17758080
Kind of sad really.

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>>17761290
>>17761263
>>17761253

Google, Wiki, and Official GM say it is GM.

>>17761300
Hmm you're dedicated. I like that.

>>17761284
Thanks to vat tax. so, what's your point?
SQ7 will cost $70K in US.

>>17761305
Well, I am a GM fanboy.

>>17749630
wtf, are poor or something?

>>17761314
Okay then shithead, just steal it then. Stop bitching about things you cannot afford.

>>17761351
Rich people don't get rich by spending more than they need to

>>17761300
>General Motors Company, commonly known as GM
>General Motors Company

>>17761385

The logo says GM, therefore that anon is correct.

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>>17761257
AHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHA

>>17761314
No, what's YOUR point. You won't buy it in Ancapistan so fuck off.

>>17761390
>>17761364
Stay mad, poorfags/Antifascumbags

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>>17761388
he "corrected" a guy who called it GMC, which is not incorrect even if the official form is "GM"
sperg more
>>17761257
Putting the name "Cadillac quality" on a pic isn't an argument, anon. Specially when Audi does this kind of shit.

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>>17761396
I'm not antifa, dipshit

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>>17761397
>Specially when Audi does this kind of shit.
oh Cadillac does this too. sperg more

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>>17761397
>muh gmc
who cares. It doesn't make sense when there is GMC. SPERG MORE

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>>17761404
>XTS
>FWD """""""luxury""""""" car
not a real Caddy, plus that's from a fleet edition
sperg more

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>>17761409
>tell him to sperg more
>he actually does it
the absolute madman

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>>17761416
sperg more

>>17761425
you too. sperg more

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>>17761436
>discontinued model
sperg more

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>>17761456
>muh discontinued model
kek sperg more

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>>17761416
>not a real Caddy
>it says caddy anyway
topkek

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>>17761493
You must think B-klasse is a real Mercedes too, cuck
>>17761470
sperg more

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>>17761436
at least the smoke comes through the fake tips unlike the ones in the audi, top kek

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>people unironically defending audi ITT

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>>17761521
topkek sperg more

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>>17761536
>people unironically defending nigger/geezer car cadillac ITT

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>>17761538
>2.0T is somehow comparable to a SQ/RS
with Cadillac, you get what you pay for
with Audi it doesn't matter how much you pay, you'll get understeer and fake tips

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>>17761530
who cares. All carmakers always do this.

>>17761542
>niggers
>able to afford new caddys
pick one
>>17761547
>FWD """""""luxury""""""" car

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>>17761550
>>FWD """""""luxury""""""" car
pic related

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>>17761547
Not the based australians

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>>17761543
>pot calling the kettle black
meh

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>>17761553
>inb4 calling it not caddy

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>>17761564
>Holden Commodore discontinued
sperg more

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>>17761543
then what about Ferrari? No big deal?

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Audi shills in full damage control mode kek
of course FWD "caddys" aren't real caddys, they're "caddys" for people who want one and can't afford it
like the A/B/CLA/GLA klasses

If you're not driving an alpha, you're driving a beta.

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>>17761579
rub it in why dontcha

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>>17761584
again, exhaust gases are coming through those
compare that to Audi

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>>17761590

Dingus

>>17761588
Oh, then XT5 and its incoming XT4 and XT7 are not real "caddys"?

>>17761600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E781QE7ZQK8

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>>17761590
>>17761592

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>>17761590
>>17761592
So, what. Other carmakers do the same thing. For example, Lexus does it in their LX.

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>>17761608
>buying any car that does this shit

>>17761614
because buyers don;t give a F U C K about it.

>>17761619
i think you mistake buyers for normies

>>17761602
too bad, the logo on these cars still says caddy. You can't do anything about it.

>>17761627
I guess you think Korea is a democratic republic too, kek

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>been working OT for the past week
>finally have some time to myself
>notice a thread about the new M5
>want to talk about it
>too late to the thread
>thread is now shitpost central

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>>17761550

Well, they do thru EBT and stealing money from a cracka

>>17761630
not an argument

>>17761669
>an example that clearly illustrates that labels can be very deceiving is not an argument

>ywn be this much of a brainlet
feels good man
just like a tranny is a "rebadged" man pretending to be a woman, a XTS is a rebadged Chevy shitbox pretending to be a Caddy

>>17761416
this, I'd rather drive a Chevy Caprice PPV than a XTS

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>>17761669
sperg more

>>17761708
>just like a tranny is a "rebadged" man pretending to be a woman, a XTS is a rebadged Chevy shitbox pretending to be a Caddy
frosty on suicide watch

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>>17761708
>a tranny is a "rebadged" man pretending to be a woman
Topkek. You will be jailed for this in Canada.

>illustrates that labels can be very deceiving
Most guys don't care about what specific model/chassis you drive. They care about the brand name. If it says caddy, then it is caddy period.
I don't care if you think Korea is not democratic republic. If you think it is a big deal, then, it is ur problem.

>>17761728
sperg more

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>>17761745
>You will be jailed for this in Canada.
good thing I live in a free country
>Most guys don't care about what specific model/chassis you drive. They care about the brand name.
So you admit you're a badge whore?
>If it says caddy, then it is caddy period.
Like the Cimarron? top kek
>if you think
It's not that I think it's not a democratic republic. That it's not a democratic republic is objective fact.

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>>17761753
>So you admit you're a badge whore?
Most people are like that. So what.
>Like the Cimarron? top kek
Shit happened. I heard it sold very well.

>>17760883
>6 year old model bmw 3 getting outsold by a brand new C class
>must be Alfas fault!!
Why are alfa fanboys so funny?
Mercedes S class is the top selling car in the big car segment too, yet it gets outsold by the BMW 7 series and Audi A8 until Benz releases their new model.
It has been like so since the 90's.
I'm sorry but nobody cares about your special snowflake ugly red saloon.

>>17760948
>in pristine conditions
That is false though.
Most performance car manufacturers claim worse 0-60 times so any retard or noob driver can do similar 0-60 times on any shitty conditions, shitty launches, poor tyres etc.
The manufacturers are avoiding potential lawsuits that way.

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>>17761785
>I heard it sold very well.
you heard wrong, it was a flop
based mommy is going to get rid of the crappy cars and the push for more Right Wheel Drive is proof of that

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>>17762124
>over 700% sales increase in respect to past year
>nobody cares xd
literally shaking: the post

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>>17762964
>no sauce
mmkay

>running as CEO is getting tough... it has taken its toll on me.

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>>17762969

It looks great in the garage.

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>>17762984
>paid "breakdowns"

>>17762964
>being so much of a GM fangirl you call it's CEO "mommy"
lmao the absolute state of chevyfags

>>17763067
>every report or review that doesn't favour the alfa is paid

>>17763092
When a car is as close to perfection as the Alfa is, yes. Alfa and Maserati seem to be under fire lately (jalopnik is one of the most blatant sites that does it but most do it too).
For example, Doug the shill claimed there was no way to turn off the indicators on the Alfa, when it's done by pushing again to the same side and it comes back. And he claimed the Quattroporte didn't have cruise control on the stalks when his own video shows it in another take.

>>17763092
>>17763119
Forgot to add, if they lie in such minute things, how can you expect them to be truthful in the rest?
There's a coordinated effort to bring down the M3 killer.

>>17763092
vw is known to play dirty

>>17763119
Has it ever come to the mind of an Alfa fanboy that the Giulia really is NOT that good and that all the reviews which shills the Alfa is a paid review by FCA?
And do you honestly think the Giulia is the first '''''M3 killer'''''?
There have been countless ''M3 killers'' but it is generally known that the M3 is still the best car of the segment.

>>17763327
>There have been countless ''M3 killers'' but it is generally known that the M3 is still the best car of the segment.
Yet the Giulia hurt its sales so much that it was enough for the C class to come on top. Just like Ross Perot made it possible for Bill Clinton to win, the Giulia has made it possible for the C class to come on top. But it doesn't end here, unlike an election. It will eventually become the best selling D segment premium sedan in Europe.

>>17763355
>C class dethroned the 3 series because of the Alfa
see
>>17762124
>>17760371
The new 3 series will be released next year, then the 3 series will be the top selling car in the segment again until the next C class is released, it will dethrone the 3 series again and the cycle will go on.
It has been like this since the history of C class and 3 series.

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>>17763067
>muh vaghating

I bet you think this chart is paid by VW.

>>17763562
Why is FCA so fucking shit?

>>17748884
BMW M president on manual transmissions:
>"Q: Do you think BMW M will continue to offer cars with manual transmissions? How long term do you think that will remain an option?
A: Well, there are two ways of looking at manual transmissions. One is the engineering standpoint, which says it doesn’t really make sense. Even though it is lighter, it is slower, and the automated gearboxes have a better fuel consumption. So from an engineering standpoint, it does not make real sense. On the other hand, there’s this emotional thing. We still have a relevant amount of people that are wanting to drive a manual, especially on M2, M3, M4, especially in the U.S., but also worldwide. On the M2 we have a worldwide take rate for manual transmissions of about 20 percent, which is a lot. As long as the demand is there, we will stick to the manual gearboxes.
We see strong shifts in the demand for manual gearboxes. In the M3 and M4, it went down from generation to generation to where it is right now, between 15 and 20 percent. It used to be over 50. So it’s going down, but now it’s stable. In the M5 and M6 it went down to almost zero, so we had to take the manual out because there was no demand whatsoever. But the answer is that as long as there’s a strong demand for manual gearboxes, we will try and have them available in our cars."

>>17759444
It will never be as good as the GTR M3

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>>17748878
>wew lads,another generation of a shit nigger mobile that will get btfo by e63s and rs6 again
Op, post when smth of value happens please.

>>17764677
funny but the new 2016 E63 still gets wrecked by the old gen F10 M5 on track.
Also reminder that you don't even get a LSD on amg cars as standard kek.

>>17749061
what game is this

>>17764790
kek

>>17765479
that's not a game anon...

>>17749577
>550i
It got twin turbo and DOHC but apparently the Germans tend to underrated their cars since in some European countries insurances companies think that a base model 2005 cavalier is an high power car.

looks like every other bmw

>>17767317
nor is the picture