Why aren't American cars popular outside the US?

>>17747749
Because only Americunts are dumb enough to buy such shitty cars.

>>17747749
Not saying it applies to all American cars but often it's
>vulgar styling
>poor quality,shitty interiors
>thirsty engines
>too big

the fuck?

driving a corvette or trans am in japan or Britain and NOT being the coolest guy there? not even possible

>>17747762
Not to mention import taxes. Even in countries with relatively low tariffs you still have to factor in various socialistic Eurocuck wealth redistribution schemes that the people's states impose on us. At the end of the day one can usually get a locally manufactured car of equivalent quality for a similar price.

Because import taxes are high. A new corvette stingray z51 costs $93000 in germany versus like $60000 in the US.

2015+ Mustang is extremly popular though

Because in yurop a mustang costs $100,000

performance is shit despite of expensiveness
too big
5km per a liter

>>17747789
You fucking idiot.

>>17747789
TheY are like 40-45k i think
For that price you can buy a mustang with over 400 horses or a barebones mercedes 1.8l with 100 ps

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>>17747749

Because we like quality cars here

>>17747749
Emission taxes.

>>17747749
Because you can't fucking by one, without spending a premium to get it imported, then compliant with your country's motoring laws. That being said, I've seen heaps of Mustangs since they started selling them domestically.

actual main cause? no distribution network

the moment they started selling Mustangs through official European Ford dealerships, they became quite a common sight

>>17747765
I live in Britain and I've only ever seen one Corvette in my entire life, it was a red C5. It's super rare to see even a Mustang, and I've only ever seen one Camaro too.

Fuel consumption, petrol is more expensive over here.

Overpriced over here. They have to be imported, so they are fairly uncommon, so naturally they come with a high price.

Over here in the UK people seem to be asking for 20k for the older gen V8s, but the americans can pick these up for nothing.

>>17747814
You have never seen a Chrysler?

Americana cars are fairly popular in Ausland and China.

>>17747812
>>17747813
Any answer that isn't some form of these posts is wrong.

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>all those morons here not realizing that American cars don't consist only of V8 mustangs camaros and corvettes

>>17747844
That was the dream. Everything with V8s. The dream still lives in another timeline. The timeline of maximum Glory. No OPEC oil embargo, no smog equipment, not catalytic converter, no Ralph Nader, no Jimmy Peanut Dick Carter. They know, or imagine what we used to know about ourselves, if its not V8 and RWD its not American.

>>17747749
fuel consumption, import taxes, size, autotragics, more expensive parts since import only, less repair shops actually being able to fix your shit

>>17747822
Shit like the 300C yeah, and I think I've seen a Crossfire once or twice.

>>17747885
No PT's or Voyagers?

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They are pretty popular outside the US. Canada has a similar market and all of south america have plenty of american models. 40% of the chinese market is american cars. When I was in Dubai I was also impress that anything that was not a supercar was a chevrolet and in Israel they have lots of american cars too.

The only place they are rare is in western europe.

Cos 3 reasons:
Europe and asia tax the americans to promote their own shit, they are biased as fuck.

No parking spaces, so they prefer smaller cars.

europe and asia ppl prefer small-tiny cara with 800-1600 cc engines. They dont have much of a car culture.
Im from israel bte, no dog in the fight. I just like cars

>>17747902
no european car has a 800cc engine though

>>17747749
I just walked past a Trans-Am. In the last year, the only muscle cars I've seen over here are that one, owned by a guy a know and a new Camaro owned by a guy on the next street over. They're rare as hell. For full sized pickups, I see a few F150s occasionally. Dad owned an imported Harley edition once, it was great but ran afoul of height and width restrictions constantly.

Also, they don't sell them over here and they're not RHD. t. UK. It's why we're massive weebs over here, Jap imports are RHD too.

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>>17747911
You can definitely get 1000cc, pic related. 59 to a turbocharged 116 HP.

>>17747888
Ok I get your point.

But when you think 'American Car', you don't think PT Cruiser, you think Corvette.

>>17747945
You have never seen a Cherokee, Wrangler, Durango or RAM?
It seems like there's like three ''American cars'' by the average /o/ posters logic.
I should seriously block this site. I keep coming back here to waste my time after I forget how much it sucks. This place is degrading as shit.

>>17747749

I would rather drive the shitboxes of Europe than the ones we get in America. At least in Eurocuckland they can call a shitbox a shitbox honestly.

>>17747749
GM sells plenty of econoboxes all over the world, and Fords are really popular in the UK

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>brash styling perceived as tasteless by many
>corners cut on materials and assembly make them look crude and cheap, and impact satisfaction and even reliability
>deficiencies in engineering precision substituted by size
>size demands higher fuel consumption and therefore higher running costs and is impractical in daily driving
>most models would have to be grey imported and have no support network
>price isn't a selling point anymore after shipping costs and import taxes
Why WOULD they be popular?

>>17748169
And most Ford and GM models sold in Europe were actually designed in Europe. In fact there are more European designed Ford and GM models for sale in the US than there are American designed Ford and GM models for sale in Europe.

Europoors couldn't be afford the gas money for one, not even the rich europoors

>>17748224
And there are more American designed Hondas in America than there are Japanese designed ones

It's almost as if automakers are multinational corporations that design products for a certain market in mind

>>17748248
All I was saying is that European Fords are generally good enough for the US, even replacing American models in some cases like the Transit or the Focus (the American exclusive second gen Focus turned out to be a complete basketcase), while American Fords generally aren't good enough for Europe with a few exceptions like the Edge which isn't selling well at all and the Mustang which sells on novelty. And then there's those cases of Honda selling global Accords as upscale Acuras in the US while the American Accord is a complete econoshitbox.

>>17748263
The American Accord is actually nice though. The TLX was smaller, they just through in some leather, upped the compression and called it a "luxury" car

>>17748263
All Fords are global now

Corvettes are condidered exotics in Europe.

They're big!
(foreign roads are narrow.)
They have big engines!
(foreign lands either tax by displacement, have high gas tax, or both)
They're exotic!
(It's not as unreliable as Italian cars, but they aren't as stylish, either.)
(Also, since they are made in States and not in the domestic country, parts are harder to come by, like an inversion of German cars here.)
They're cheap!
(Not overseas, they are not.)

>>17747804
well yeah, but why doesn't the rest of the world like them?

>>17747749
They are popular outside the US.

>>17748380
That's not true. The rest of the world likes Toyotas, too.

>>17748383
ironically Toyotas are more American than most """American""" brands these days

>>17747911
dumb arse

>>17747749
Because they're expensive and not very good.

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>>17747749
Because they're rubbish

>>17748224
True, the only good Ford cars are European, liek the Fiesta, Focus and GT(40)

>>17747749
When it comes to muscle cars etc the reason besides the rarity is how much more taxes you have to pay because of the high displacement combined with the fuel consumption.

>>17747822
Do PT Cruisers count?

Here in Germany there are loads of the current Mustang and Camaro (more Mustangs though). Corvettes can be spotted every now and then on the Autobahn. Everything else from the US that was not officially sold in Germany is extremely rare. I've seen more Skylines and Stageas than muscle cars from before 2000 although the latter are handled more as driver's cars here while american cars seem to be more of a collector's thing.

>>17747971
>You have never seen a Cherokee, Wrangler, Durango or RAM?
Literally no.

>>17747773
>>17747779
And they say we have protectionist tariffs...

>>17748692
we don't actually. the US is a bastion of free trade compared to most other places.

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>>17748699
That's what I'm saying. That's ridiculous.

What is it, cronyism between government and customs and manufacturers?

>>17747749
Yurocucks can't compete and are too poor to afford American cars. In these ways they keep the yuropeasants buying small 2 cylinder cuck mobiles. Only Americans have the freedom to play with V8 monsters.

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>>17747803
Those are so fucking ugly. I can't stand the look of those vans.

Pic related is top tier look

>>17747911
The entire euro A segment uses anything from .6L to 1.6 in very special cases like the up! GTI. Most A segment tin cans top out at .9L

>>17748765
My grandpa had a van just like that, it smelled like orange spray and cigs.

>>17748714

Customs are just an executive function, like the Police. For the rest, yes, there's a lot of that.

>>17747752
>>17747804
>>17748587
lol fuck off top gear watcher

>>17748776
>anything from .6L
show me one ( 1 ) modern european car with a 600cc engine lmao

>>17747891
I can't remember seeing a petrol station in Monaco.

>>17748714
>from the country that bans grey imports less than 25 years old and gives preferential treatment to Detroit truckbarges and SUV shitbuckets in every single regard
>hurr muh yuropeen cronyism

>>17749625
Ironically the 25 year rule is a protection for euro companies because nobody here wanted to buy the trash they made for the american market

>>17747792
>5km per a liter
what did he mean by this

>>17747752
Pretty much this. Nobody else is gullible or cloistered enough.

>>17748311
No they aren't. The US still gets gimped models, but they all have the same name.

Pretty sure you don't get fully independent suspension on US-spec Focuses.

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because outside of the american continent they are too expensive and low quality compared to the alternatives elsewhere in the world

>>17747749
American cars are made for America. Most are completely unusable on our roads especially once you start to factor in taxes and fuel costs.

There is a reason Ford Europe does all the design for non-American cars.

>>17747813
The Mustang is still very uncommon and they're now being sold with a Ford ecoboost engine for Europoors lol

>>17749688
Yes you do. They're all the same now

>>17749699
that's silly, because coming from a relatively poor armpit of Europe (Poland), I see mostly 5.0 GT Mustangs bought as company cars, because they're so cheap, especially when you can deduct income tax and VAT

almost nobody buys 2.3 versions, because there's no point

>>17749902
surely youre joking

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>>17747749
Taxes

>>17749362
My dad went through like 5 or 6 of them, even the old chryslers and dodge caravans. Trannies never made it more than a few thousand klicks over 100k

Because they are shit
No one wants to go to the effort to import something that is shit
So it's obvious that Americans only buy them because it's why they easily have access to. Like the ugly beta who can only sex fat chicks

>>17747749

Only refugees are allowed to drive V8s in the caliphate of Europe.

All white men must drive these:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lKq1fGtXFM

>>17750177
So he bought a new van instead of another tranny?

They are. If someone has and American muscle/sports car in a euorpean country, more than likely theyre rich and it attracts attention.

You Europeans love american cars no matter how much they say otherwise. You surround them whenever you spot someone driving them because theyre so damned rare and put a good portion of your average cars to shame.

If in europe you put a Dodge Challenger Hellcat and Audi R8 next to each other in a parking lot, more people are gonna flock to the Challenger because they're so damned uncommon that most people don't even know what it is. Same rule applies to classic cars just about everywhere else.

>>17749621
Gotta get fuel for their supercars somehow.

>>17750970
Europeans don't give two shits about American cars
Yoire delusional if you think otherwise.

>>17747749
cuz they sux

>>17747749
The last time i checked in Argentina, the 2017 Mustang GT (with a localized package, a bit different/nicer than the base GT) was almost 120k out of the door (yes, U.S. dollars).
Also, premium gas price was more than 5/gal (again, U.S. dollars).

Displacement tax
Displacement tax
Displacement tax
No dealer network
No parts support
Displacement tax

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Figured I'd ask here cause its about murican cars and op img is a c5 vette.

I like cars and really want to be able to have fun at the track (road course is 30 mins away and a 1/4 mile drag strip about 45 mins away). And I also just want to be able to have fun driving the car around on fair weather days.
I'm a learning hobbyist mechanic I don't know much yet but I've been building tools and knowledge up with my 1994 Mustang GT. It just is too old/rough to really put the time/effort into I want.

Even in stock form the C5 seems to have what I want in power/handling. But I would still want to try doing a few things myself like bolt ons and suspension.

Anyway I'm looking at pic related.
I test drove it about an hour ago and it runs and drives great.
It has 144k miles. He has paperwork for a RPM level IV rebuild for the T56 dated from last winter which he said was at 140k. It's their lowest and cheapest rebuild at $2600.

The only mods are
Tick Master Cylinder
Tick Slave speed bleeder
Muffler Delete
LS7 Clutch (Done with rebuilt trans)
Mail order tune on it. said it picked up some power but his main reasoning was getting rid of the skip shift function.

He has records for a new water pump, manifold gaskets, plugs/wires. Also it had a lifter issue and had heads pulled and new LS7 lifters. WIth that was new headgaskets and heads were cleaned and surfaced at a machine shop with new seals and whatnot.

All done in summer 2016

He has just used it for a fun daily driver for last 2 years and road coursed it twice.

Seems super well maintained. He's firm at $8000. I was looking to spend around 10-12k since I find them with like 60-70k miles but this one is a lot cheaper and has the fresh trans and it really did shift absolutely beautiful so it's attracting me.

Thoughts?

>>17754096
also it's a 1999

>>17749640
Ironically Mercedes suggested it but Detroit benefitted even more from it and also had someone they could blame it on. It was a win-win for Detroit and therefore for Washington.

>>17750970
>If someone has and American muscle/sports car in a euorpean country, more than likely theyre rich and it attracts attention.
More likely they're average wealthy but much more tasteless than others. It takes a special kind of tastelessness and hunger for attention to want to be seen in gaudy American shitbuckets outside of America.

German fag here and I can say american cars are highly desired not cause of reliability or anything (im not saying they are) but just because its hard to find them. Taxes and importing fees and such made them very costly new and they hold value here.

A v6 camaro firebird or mustang in good shape that sells for $2000-3000 in america from what I saw when I was a college transfer student at Iowa Sate in the US for a semester are the same cars that will go here for 7000-10000. A v8 model will bring 20-40k here depending on condition and km/miles. I'm talking US dollars roughly converted in my head.

A c5 corvette that is spoken of being so cheap like >>17754096 will bring equivalent here of maybe $40,000-50,000 US dollars. There actually more of them than the Trans am or camaro so a v8 fbody will bring as much value as the corvettes.

Mustangs are a bit cheaper there are more v6s around. V8s are pricey though.

Also same goes for old american trucks. Like 70-2000 GM trucks are verrry valueable here too.

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not luxurious enough
not a status symbol
doesn't create lust
doesn't show class or taste
doesn't turn heads
lastly, in some habeeb countries you need to one up your friends. If mohackmed has a 200ft boat, you need a 300 ft boat. If Abdul has a Bugatti, you need a gold plated Bugatti with a $15 million license plate

>>17754153
To be fair Lamborghinis are the gaudiest babbys first supercar you can find anywhere.

They look childish. If 8 year old boys were wealthy enough to buy cars they'd be very popular.

>>17754151
I've had my fair share of looking at American cars and honestly they sell for exactly as much as in the US plus shipping and taxes. You're hardly going to make any profit whatsoever on importing American cars, the price difference merely covers expenses.

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>>17754159
What about these?

>>17747749
tiny roads
everybody is broke

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>>17754188
same guy

>>17754096
Buy it and scour the internet for some better wheels
The other style the C5 had was miles better

>>17754172
They sell for a lot here.. but importing older cars is very tedious and sometimes impossible so it is rarely done. Most of what is here is only what was imported when brand new.

>muh shipping and taxes
What a silly excuse. If there were a market they'd be available, just like Japanese cars. They're not because they look awful and unpractical, and have an exaggerated reputation for drinking too much fuel.

>>17754208
Since I'm buying it mostly for leisure cruising and some track duty I was going to pick up a set of these C6 zr1 replicas
http://www.oewheelsllc.com/17-Fits-Chevrolet-C6-ZR1-Wheel-Matte-Black-17x9-5

Was going to use the stock wheels for strictly track use with some performance radials and just put some BFG street comps on the Zr1 replicas.

>>17754188
They're alright, at least they're #rare and off the beaten path.

outside of the us people actually care about what they invest in
if they wanna pay top notch they go with something like german cars
american cars are like the consoles of the gaming world while germans are the pcs

>Corvette vs. GTR
>North Americans commonly agree the GTR is 10% better but for a 40% premium
When you take the competition outside of the domestic market however...
>Corvette vs. GTR
>GTR is 10% better and 10% cheaper
Basically, if it wasn't for the domestic advantage or selling cheap rebadge Daewoos globally, GM can't compete.

>>17750970
>Dodge Challenger Hellcat
There are some streets in Bristol where the Hellcat wouldn't even fit in its designated lane. I like American cars, but some of them are just too damn big to fit into European roads.

>>17749645
Miles per gallon in metric. Retard

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>>17755400
>when protectionist governments tax the shit out of an imported item, they become more expensive to purchase

Really activates the almonds

>>17754099

99+ are the best C5s. Rear end improvements and stability control standard.

>>17749695
Even in Aus where we have the right roads, people would rather have a Falcon or a Commodore

>>17747826
I heard buick was super popular in china, but they turned out just to be badge engineered vauxhalls and holdens. There just doesn't to be any effort in exporting American made cars.

>>17747749
because they're designed 4 u Americans, i don't enjoy driving shitty soft suspensions i normal everyday cars, I feel like on a bout during the drive then...

>>17754188
>>17754202
>literally my childhood dream car collection
Who is this guy? And how do I take over his life?

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>>17747752
FPBP. They're shit. The only good ones are engineered and built in England. Not murifats at all like the AC Cobra and GT40.

>>17747752
Like fords aren't incredibly popular worldwide and especially in Europe.

Goddamn dishonest euros.

>>17757363
ford for europe is designed in germany, amiericans couldn't go for it

>>17757282
Christ this entire post is retarded. Good bait.

China and America are the only two countries in the world where imports are exclusively better than domestic.

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>>17747749
How about you stop selling your 15k usd Mustang for 40k € in europe ?

>>17757370
Still an American car company and we have many of the same cars that are popular over there, fiesta, focus and transit come to mind.

I hate you faggots. You constantly lie to the less traveled/cultured Americans. You assholes drive our cars and eat our fastfood while consuming our media yet are still smug assholes. Fuck you.

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Not true. Picture is number of "want to sell" postings on the biggest second-hand auto market site in Russia

>>17757395
>fiesta, focus and transit
designed in europe

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>>17757406
So is this, what's your point?

>>17757416
american cars will never be popular in Europe, why can;t u just understand this simple fact

>>17757396

But aren't most of those Chevrolets just Aveos, which are a glorified Moskvich and built in Russia?

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>>17757457
>https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/3361450/the-uks-most-popular-cars-revealed-the-brands-we-adore-and-the-colours-brits-just-cant-get-enough-of/

Explain this then.

american cars are utter shit with exception of some Fords (many of them actually designed in German Ford)

For the same reason BMW doesn't sell us their shitbox spec cars.

Americans build cheap so anyone can afford one of their cars. Kind of like the japs, but they only make cars (the WE ONLY DO ONE THING SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GOOD AT IT meme) so they have to cut costs instead of going hondamode and using profits from the lawnmower division to fund R&D.

American cars designed and produced in Europe are the only decent ones, being that Fords (fiesta, focus, etc) or Jeep (Renegade), etc..

In europe we had GM cars but they were literally not able to make a single good car so they retired from Europe...and now Opel has been sold to Frenchies. Lel

>>17747902
>They dont have much of a car culture

You couldn't be more wrong than you are now.

>>17747749
Cause we let other countries put huge taxes on our shit, while not doing it to their goods.

Its just part of that librul cuk lyfe where you sell out to globalism in order to collapse the country

They can keep their 4 bangers, ill stick with my v8s

This thread reminds me of the time the americans let other countries compete in their mountainclimb rallies. The only folk who accepted were Peugeot, and they sent a 205. It knocked about 3 minutes of every record and they didn't invite foreigners again after that.

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>>17757583

>>17754153
1. that porsche 993 i guess gt2?
2.ferrari f50
3.ferrari ff
4.aston martin v12 vanquish
5.lamborghini diablo
6.ferrari 355
7.ferrari 559
8.Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer
9.merc
10.the rest of new lambos

>>17747749
because american cars are trash

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>>17749645
>not using logic metric system
>uses retarded conversion ratios instead

Cars aren't the only shitty thing about amerdica

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>>17748699
>30% capital gains on crypto
>30%
>1/3ish
>30k on 100k profit
>free

TOPKUK

>>17757647
metric is for spergs
it was invented by french bugmen who think 1/10,000th of the distance around the earth is a more intuitive unit of measurement than the length of an average man's foot

>>17757663
>using averages as measurements
>foot length varies from 10cm to 30cm
>the earth's circumference is 10km (10.000 x 1m)
>americans are this retarded

>>17757682
>foot length varies from 10cm to 30cm
lol maybe in europe where half the population is malnourished

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>>17757682
>not knowing both

>>17757690
>he was born with 30cm feet
>his mother was so lose he actually did it

>>17757472
designed in europe, what to explain?

>>17757663
Doesn't matter how it's defined, the practical advantage is that everything stands in relation to one another by powers of ten and not by 12, 3 and 1760. A kilometer is 1000 meters and a meter is 1000 millimeters, and you can convert things simply by moving the period.

Also units do have practical relations. A kilometer is around 0.62 miles and works just as well, a meter is around 1.09 yards and works just as well, a centimeter is around 0.39 inches and works just as well, and you don't even have units small enough to be comparable to millimeters. Instead you start fucking dividing inches into 17/36ths fractions like the complete retards you are.

>>17757363
> Ford USA
> Ford Europe And The Rest Of The World

Guess which one makes the better cars.

>>17747749
Because burgers make shit cars.

>>17757876
there are two kinds of countries: ones that use metric, and ones that put men on the moon

>dividing inches into 17/36ths fractions
lol implying fractions are even hard

you're probably an aspie if fractions confuse you because they're NOT LAWGICLE

>>17758111
Ones that put men on the moon with computers making calculations in metric after converting imperial input from hillbilly astronauts.

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>>17758058
Yeah man, your 1.2l cuckbox is far superior to a taurus or an F series.

Too jelly of you guys.

tfw the only american car that i realy consider buying is a Tesla model 3
starting at 31k in germany

>>17747752
yeah harsh but true. the "German" cars for the NA market are cobbled together in mexico and they still beat american brands on their own soil.

>>17758142
>Ford cars are popular all over the world, they must be good!
>except all the cars that sell outside of the US which are shit

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>>17747749
Too thirsty for Europe.
Too big for Japan.
Not pretentious enough for the middle east.

>>17747749
Why would I want to own American-made car though? Their displacement is huge with no adequate power (see hot hatches like Mitsubishi Colt GTI having 1.8 103kw engine). No economy whatsoever. They're not that comfy compared to Germans and those sofa-like land barges are actually fucking a size of landwhale. American styling is questionable, while I agree iconic cars like Vette, Mustang, Challenger, Camaro look cool - its mostly sports cars. Rarely somebody owns more than one car and if a person does - its a daily econo commuter for another family member, not sports car for weekends. Reliability is unknown. I'm not a fan of touring/wagon cars, but the majority of people who have families prefer them (or hatches) over sedans or, in some cases, SUVs - Americans are only good at sedans, coupes and SUVs. Literally everything thats not suitable for Euro market.

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>>17754096
>Tick Master Cylinder
>Tick Slave speed bleeder
>LS7 Clutch (Done with rebuilt trans)
Definitely good that this corvette has already had transmission issues dealt with. Mine failed 2 days after I bought it because the clutch, slave cylinder, and main oil seal were bad. The speed bleeder is a must have since you need to flush the clutch fluid around once a month.
>pic related

TLDR: I'd trust a C5 at 144k miles with a rebuilt transmission over a lower mileage C5 that has not had the transmission redone

>>17758123
BTFO

Also, >>17758111
>Implying the moon landing was real

>>17747749
Euro here.
They do everything our or japanese cars do but worse, more expensive and lower quality.
Corvette is a pathedic copy of an italian sportscar.
Caddillac is a shitty, uncomfortable, tacky lexus for gypsies.
Trucks are shit at offroad and garbage on road. You either use a van or unimog.
Only truly great american cars are muscle cars, and they even ruined those pretending they can handle.
The only true lord and savior, champion of tarmac, foreigner to the gravel, killer of drivers is
the snek.
Rest of your garbage you can go and use to stick up your ass so you can tell the sjw overlords you're homosex and not get bullied.

>>17758382
>euro attempting to form an argument
Cringing at your feeble brain m8.

>>17757406
WE WUZ FORD N SHEIT

>>17747971
Nice pasta

>>17760033
wat?

>>17747773
This and this alone. Has nothing to do with clashing styling or fuel economy.

>>17750942
Why bother to buy and install a new tranny in a van that he'd pay 300 bucks for?

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>>17747749
Because Americans are nowhere near as gay as whatever is not America,fag.

>>17748219
I like these...

>>17760077
good fucking lord

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>>17757472
d e s i g n e d i n e u r o p e

you niggers aren't even going to be getting the next fiesta because it didn't even sell in the US, LOL

>>17757544
desu there isn't as much of a car culture in the uk as there is in the us.

our cities are small so most young lads don't need to drive as you might in the US.
petrol is extortionate, and insurance prices are absolutely insane for first time drivers.

I mean, there's still a car scene here and it's a lot better than most places in europe, but yeah. and it's mostly centered on hot hatches.

>>17757583
kek, need more info on this

when did this happen / who did this?

>>17760105
WE

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>really like the C4 Grand Sport
>will never own one

Europe lives on shitboxes. They can't afford much better. A mustang gt would bankrupt most europeans. American cars are not popular because they are expensive.

>>17760188
It didn't happen. He's making shit up.

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So much eurotrash salt in this post lol


American cars ARE popular outside the US. Having been to Japan for work many times myself, only the wealthy drive imported American cars. There is a whole car culture over in Japan that glorifies even american shitboxes. I would say it is similar to how jdmfags fap over RHD Japanese imports. They don't see many of them so they have that unobtanium cool-factor.

>pic related its a dealership in Yokohama Japan that only sells American cars
>90s lincoln town car for 22 grand

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>>17760752
I wish I could find the YouTube video where they show Japanese girls that have an obsession for American cars. One girl even had a 2004 srt10 ram 1500.

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>>17760778
I went to a car meet at Daikoku parking area in my friends clapped out auto f-body camaro and it got more attention from the locals than really nice GTRs and silvias.

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>>17760752
>landbarges were the secret to getting a qt japanese gf the whole time

Holy shit.

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>>17760806

>>17760752
>car culture based around American shitboxes
I guess it's a small world after all.

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>>17760807
yup

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>>17760807
>what weebs think:
>if i live in a suburb and drive a camry m'fine japanese m'ladies will appreciate my sensibilities. maybe i will get a honda motorcycle to show my appreciation for japanese refinement too.
>reality:
>i live in a trailer and drive a camaro. that green thing yonder next to 'er is mah seventy two shovelhead. and that there is mah cousin john's car he got at onna dem police auctions for 'bout three fiddy.
>japanese girls: KASHIKOIIIII

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>>17760824

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They love shitty land barges

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Lots of USDM car meets over there

>>17760846
Is that a jojo reference?

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>>17760846
USDM honda facelifts and california plates. I found it kinda funny how it's the exact inverse of the honda scene in the US.

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Hnngg

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>>17760852
My favorite is when they randomly import LHD USDM versions of cars they already have available in Japan.

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>>17760846
>based Japanese can appreciate that not all American cars are shit
>semen slurping eurofags would rather have 1L diesel shitboxes

>>17760866
Europe could use a couple bombs maybe?

>>17760860
Ill stop my dump now but I have hundreds of photos of American cars that I have taken on my trips to Japan. There is a huge demand for American cars over there. You could probably make a decent amount of money exporting clean examples of stuff like silverados, 3rd gen camaros, mid 2000s mustangs, etc..

OP is retarded

>>17760522
WUZ

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>>17760880
*forgot last pic of dump damnit

>>17760880
I'd like to see some more, this is cool af

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>>17760888
I'll come back and dump some more in a bit if the thread is still alive

>>17760880
make a seperate thread and dump that shit m8

Just look at other cars. They adapt to locals. American cars never do it. Just like the rest of the world don't care about American football

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>>17760907
I'm heading out for a couple hours so I can't rn. In a bit I probably will

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one more for good measure

If you guys are interested in seeing more cool USDM stuff in Japan I recommend watching this video. Alexi is a pretty cool dude and has some sweet videos documenting the Japanese version of US car culture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIZwnTwqzC0

It's actually wierd, with imports and all that you have a distillation of car culture across the pond, and you get a "grass is greener" effect.

In Japan, there's a huge USDM culture á la
>>17760915
and in Europe, people still see old muscle cars like Roadrunners and Corvettes as really cool. Even things like the modern Corvette and Camaro/mustang are liked quite a bit, and Europeans really like cars like the Viper too, because American culture is foreign and therefore more interesting. Likewise with things like Mercs and BMW's perception here in North America

>>17760904
>>17760915
I really like those

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>>17750432
Underrated

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>>17761264
D-Dd she violate the NAP?

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American cars have a sizable following in Japan and Australia. Cant forget the Raggare in Europe either. Once in Japan I found a full sized lowered GMC with a full Dallas cowboys paint job.

>>17760914
yes for instance while other countries get a dozen different trims for the corolla, americans only get a base model shitbox with an already strained, gutless economy engine because the (auto only) camry is meant to be the nice one.

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>>17761298
the middle east too.

>>17760880
>OP is retarded
It really is just an /o/ thing. Outside of /o/, anyone that calls themselves a car enthusiast appreciates all types of cars. Every country has their goods and bads.

Opel and ford are doing fine by selling locally made cars but 2l/1.5lT engines are too expensive for Europeans and the only good American cars start with a 2l turbo.

>>17757477
that garbage trannie was from the heart of the 4th reich

>>17760752
Seeing Lincol Town Car being sold for 22 grand, doesnt necessarily means theyre popular in Japan. Just like I see lots of Mustangs, Camaros and Vettes being imported and listed for sale to my 3rd world shithole and really no one buys them, except probably for neighbour countries.

>>17760852
Cali plates are dope tho, really fucking clean and stylish. And this comes from european.

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bump with a couple more photos

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Mustang that came into my buddies shop

before

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>>17760880
These are fucking awesome. Make a thread later and dump them.

>>17760832
Is that a hose for gassing the niggers in the back seat?

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Because we like our airbags to be deployed in case of crash, you know

Because I live in a shithole which has a %206 tax on cars, so something like $50K becomes a $160K car. Fuel is like $1.30 and the minimum wage is $400. Also don't forget to multiple all of those stuff with 3.6 because of currency convertion.

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>>17747749
American cars are quite popular in Australia.
you name it and there is probably a club that does regular stuff with those cars somewhere in Australia.

>>17762526
Wwhhat country is that?

>>17762556
Turkey.
https://www.sahibinden.com/ford-mustang?sorting=price_desc

http://www.xe.com/currencyconverter/convert/?Amount=1&From=USD&To=TRY

http://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Turkey/gasoline_prices/

Extra: Geforce 1080: Which country pays the most?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ZFvlZY40Y

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>>17747749
because you fuckers drive on the wrong side of the road, and are stuck in a bubble where you all buy 7L engine trucks and 10 foot tall suv's for light loads and city and highway use, when the rest of the world is happy to drive a 2L 4 banger and save all their hard earned cash on things that aren't petrol.

Also thanks for pic related, like we really needed whatever the fuck this is


being said classic american cars are beautiful and Australians love them so much we improved on the formula to make our own perfect work vehicles.

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They are not good value for money over here when they're new, and importing one used is also not something most people would want to do.
Honestly there's a lot of money to be made importing old classics from the US into Europe and selling them for a healthy profit, but it would require huge capital investment and trusted business partners on both ends.

>>17760752

No, that's a niche market. Make the difference.

>>17762577
>when the rest of the world is too poor and drive a 2L 4 banger
ftfy.

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>>17760931
>>17760846
Seeing all these OBS Chevy's being (probably) maintained very well over there brings a tear to my eye.

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>>17762577
>Posts shitty american car
>Good american car hiding in the background

>>17747749

They're sought after in Europe but everything related to US cars is (artificially) expensive.

>>17762577
What perfect work vehicle are you on about?

>>17747765
No RHD version. Die while trying to overtake/ merge lane..

>>17762669
i would disagree

>>17762968
What's wrong with the 90s explorer?

>>17763068
They didn't call them Exploders for nothing anon

>>17757696
I didn't know that newborns were considered men..
Britbong reading comprehension is awful.

>>17758123
Then there are ones full of jealous, ass-blasted "men" with bad teeth.

>>17763076
Shitty V6 engine doesn't mean the whole car is bad. It did what it was built for very well.

>>17747752
fpbp

>>17760778
Just the thought of that gets me hard as diamonds.

>>17747773
compared to you britian has nice import laws

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>>17747820
Price differences between regions probably is a big reason. Its not unheard of to buy a 20 year old Trans Am/Camaro with an LS1 for well under 13,000 USD.

>>17763158
>only adults need to measure stuff

>>17763068
it's american, too big, eats too much gas, amercan interior quality, american suspension, etc... no one in europe buys these explorers, PT cruiser is much more popular here, but still nobody wants it

>>17751780
I do sometimes hear an older muscle car pass by, and i know a couple of areas with some classic sedans. Love the look of those. Its about personal preference.

>>17760841
Wish they made those with modern engines

>>17747779
These arent import taxes. GM made that price

>>17757416
kek

mustangs aren't as popular in europe bc of right hand drive design flaw, you get less power for the same car lol

not to mention emissions standards, safety standards etc.

it's why you see shitty peugeot and fiats everywhere lol

>>17748373
this poster is correct

>>17761000
I'm Europoor and I want to drive a modern Corvette one day
that car looks sexy as fucc

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>>17747749
Large displacement and high CO2 emissions means that the government charges exorbitant amounts of money to import them. An Ecoboost Mustang costs the same as a Porsche Cayman. A Mustang with a V8 costs as much as a 911.
And when those are your choices, clearly most people would opt for the Porsche.
Chevrolet doesn't even sell cars here anymore, but I've still seen a couple of C6 Corvettes. And there is a Mustang parked on my street right now. Despite the massively inflated prices, some people still buy them. There is clearly a market for those types of cars here. And if their comparative prices would be like they are in the US (i.e. base model Mustang is the same as a C-Max), they would sell like hotcakes.

That being said, Fordi is definitely one of the most popular brands here, because they have a lot of cars that are geared towards the European market. And Jeeps do alright. But Chevrolet, Dodge, Cadillac, etc. don't even have websites in my language.

>>17749921
he's not, can confirm. I've actually never seen the Ecoboost.

the sticker price of a GT in Poland is in the range of a BMW 420i so you could either have a 5.0 V8 with most of the stuff as standard or a barebones BMW with a 2.0 I4 and the sound of a vacuum cleaner. and dealerships usually charge even less than that to the point that it cost as much as a fucking 2.0TDI A4 Avant

too bad insurance and taxes might screw you over since it's based on engine displacement - Polish gov't still thinks anything over 2 litres is considered a luxury car so they slap a 18.6% tax on top of VAT.

so most of the time instead of hearing a V8 getting floored near you it's just the same clackety-clack VAG product that passes you on the highway, except now it comes with a touch screen.