What does /o/ like more? JDM or land yachts?

since landbarges are awful at everything from looks to driving pleasure to economy to even comfort JDM is the easy answer

>>17743133
ever ridden in a land barge takumi?

>>17743141
ridden and driven

least favorite vehicle type I have had the displeasure of being in

>>17743144
I like em, I like the jdm handling stuff too, but I wouldn't give jdm the point on comfort

>>17743128
While there's a sizable minority of real men on /o/ that like land yachts the majority prefer effeminate jdm cars like the Miata

>no whitewalls
sacrilege

>>17743146
I hate the seats in landbarges

they have like no support and its just plush and the suspension feels more unsettling than anything to me

I am only speaking of old American ones tho

>>17743128
jokes aside why did you post two land barges ?

if I have to travel 5 or 8 hours give me the land barge
if it is less than 3 hours or only a few minutes I take almost anything with a roof and windows
Jeder zu ihren eigenen

>>17743151
>miata
>Jdm

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i learned to drive in an R33, so... JDM

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>>17743128
>implying those are mutually exclusive

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Both actually, each in their own way. JDM evokes thoughts about a distant society with its very own delicate characteristics and phenomenal aesthetics. Murribarges on the other hand are brash and not at all in a bad way. They have their own cultural frame as well.

Practically speaking they both have their upsides and downsides. Barges are easier to come by in Europe, including spare parts, and have the steering on the correct side, but they're also impractically huge and drink a hole into your wallet. JDM would be the more sensible choice, but it's far rarer to find and you'll be sitting on the wrong side of the car. If I were Australian or British the choice would be easier.

>>17743256
hello Kiwi

>>17743317
actually, no. I live i think as far as humanly possible from NZ. Dad was just had way too much dough, and wanted me to be able to drive both Right and and left hand drive. Secand car was an E31 but he really liked it, so i barely drove it

>>17743317
no pleb here has only the r32 GTS-t
strange enough GXi GTE are less often on the road

land-yachts don't have as much hype tax on them as JDM cars do, and I don't really like driving fast that much anyway. It's so awesome cruising through a sleepy town in a lumbering V8 that displaces 26 liters, but only makes 28 bhp.

Should be known that it's not hard nor expensive at all to de-smog those old Ford 460s and turn them into animals.

>>17743153
>unable to get comfy
Sad.

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Post an actual landyacht not that downsized late 70's-80's trash

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>>17743618
>"It's only 18.5 feet instead of 20 feet. This is an outrage."

>>17743628
It looks noticeably worse, compare the downsized Cadillacs and Lincolns to the prime ones and you will see

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>>17743641
Would rather drive this than your deathtrap boomer shit.

>drive a landbarge with an automatic
>go insane after about 30 minutes but can't break out a book or anything because i have to steer and brake
>start talking to myself
>start talking to imaginary people
>print out a piece of paper with maki nishikino's face on it and make it my conversation partner
>play fucking "I spy" with it
>this needs to stop
>buy rickety manual jap import
>find myself able to be a normal human being again
>makis taped to headrests: 0

JDM yo.

>>17743665
Was it autism?

>>17743659
>50 years old is more of a deathtrap than a mere 40 years old
Here we have a person who has completely dissociated from reality in his efforts to argue with strangers on the internet.

>>17743669
I don't know but if it was, the gutless shitbox cvic cured it in less than a week.

>actually having to shift gears on the highway
It's a mindsaver.

>>17743672
>*30
ftfy gramps

Enjoy burning to death when you get in a fender bender.

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>>17743641
It's not a length issue, it's a height issue. The '80s Town Car is 219 inches long but has a particularly tall greenhouse. Also it's missing 2 inches in width but you wouldn't notice. It's mainly the roof height.

Here's a real downsize.

>>17743687
I don't think they had real crumple zones and cabin reinforcement in the 80s either. All the shock of an impact was transferred directly to the driver except for maybe an airbag, and the whole of the car crumpled around you requiring the jaws of life to get out. Your chosen "old car" isn't any better or safer than another older car just because you like it, faggot.

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>>17743697
This. Americans cars basically didn't evolve for decades, they only designed new bodystyles, took their sweet time adapting the engines to smog requirements and added a driver airbag at some point. Actual change only occured starting in the '90s.

>>17743711
And goddamn do we love 'em for it.

>you have to make your car smaller!
>you have to make your car safer!
>you have to make your car faster!
>you have to make your car more fuel efficient!

>Chrysler: pussied out
>GM: "hold my beer"
>Ford: you are like a little baby, watch as I produce the same car effectively unchanged from 1992 to 2011

>>17744310
>Chrysler: "We're going down. Let's take AMC with us."
>GM: *shits pants*
>Ford: "Let's make a compact car, but make sure the gas tank is right in front of the rear bumper."
ftfy

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>>17744327
>"Let's make a compact car, but make sure the gas tank is right in front of the rear bumper."
>and then do the same thing with the full-size cars, and then act all surprised when those catch on fire in rear-end collisions too

Best of both worlds give me a Cressida.

>>17744310
Chrysler made amazing cars in the 80s

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>>17744597
>Chrysler made amazing cars in the 80s

>>17744605
Dodge Daytona, omni, Spirit r/t, caravan there's a few others

>>17744621
Laser, rampage, shadow, horizon and a few others that had turbo options the ones that really shined bright were the Daytona and the Omni though

>>17744605
https://www.allpar.com/model/daytona.html#general

Scott achieved the Product Planning objective as measured by comparing professional and amateur driver times on both high speed and low speed courses. The G-24 won as measured by the stop watch - but two rolled Porsche 924s at Chelsea Proving Grounds were more dramatic evidence of our achievement. (Bob Ludwig, Proving Ground Manager, told me that if they “totalled” another, I would have to pay for replacing it out of my Department’s budget.)

>>17744621
>>17744634
None of those cars were good other than the Caravan. The minivan is literally the only reason Chrysler didn't die in the 70s.

>>17744726
how were they not? turbo lightweight handled extremely well and were/are cheap

>>17744745
also no they all sold extremely well

>>17744752
>>17744745
Dix Ot D'gain Gony (E)

>>17744774
fuckin wat

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>>17743128
land barge for sure but America cant even do what they are most famous for right

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>>17744784
Chrysler fans will refute this.

>>17744691
that doesnt make it a good car

>>17744726
this

>>17744752
yeah the Caravan did

>>17744797
alright then what makes a good car? what about these cars makes it inferior to the other cars of the 80s?

>>17744795
not even a chrysler fan im a ford guy but you have to be retarded to not recognize the only american brand trying to do something different in the 80s

>>17744804
How many malaise Chrysler cars do you see on Craigslist versus GM and Ford cars?

Reliability is the most valuable attribute for a vehicle to have.

>>17744797
http://www.turbododge.com/forums/f4/f62/386915-production-figures-database.html#post2436679

>>17744804
not falling apart and being a shitbox from the factory is one of the things it would need

theyre just shitboxes with bodykits and sure K-cars sold a lot but they were awful

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>>17744810
No, you're thinking of the company they killed in the 80s.

>>17744818
the only GM and Ford cars i ever see on craigslist from the 80s are panthers and mustangs and trucks while GM consists of turd gens and trucks for chrysler i see k bodies all the time and trucks

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>>17744821
All those production numbers and you still don't see any on the road today. Really makes you think.

>>17744824
>GM and Ford is using the same formula from the 70s
>Chrysler making small turbo precursor tuner cars

>>17744834
how many 80s cars that arent turd gens or mustang on the road?

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>>17744835
>Chrysler poorly attempting to make small turbo precursor tuner cars
ftfy

>>17743289
This so much
Jap landbarges are actually better imo

>>17743128
JDM ftw

>>17744849
>literally making better tuner cars than jap land
>poorly made cars

>>17744843
I see plenty of Oldsmobiles, Cadillacs, Fords, Buicks and Lincolns on the road every day while I'm on the clock. Whenever I see a K-car, it's always falling apart.

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>>17744835
umm

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>>17744857
>better than Jap land
Chrysler fans can't be this deluded.

>>17744859
never see any other 80s cars other than turd gens moostangs and the odd panther

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>>17744790

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just because Chrysler shit about a bunch of awful turbo cars doesnt mean no one else was making boost in the states

>>17744886
A-bodies and B-bodies are everywhere around my town. Open your eyes, lad.

>>17744872
>106hp
wew lad

>>17744881
WEEEW LADDD

>>17744893
>150hp
weeew you finally caught up with the mid trim

>>17744898
i love foxbody cars but 1 more hp while weighing more

the turbo k cars eventually got up to 224hp also the cars you linked are and sold like shit

>>17744901
always keep my eyes peeled and literally none of those are on the road here and i can name 3 k cars on the road where i live

>>17744909
forgot to put the hp for the suzuki and of course im only listing whatever they made in absolute top trim
>101hp

>>17744909
>moving the goalposts

talk about irrelevant

k cars are complete shit no matter how much power they made

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>>17744909
>my lightweight turd can go fast
>that means its good

>>17744810
>you have to be retarded to not recognize the only american brand trying to do something different in the 80s
You mean because every time a GM sub-brand tried doing something different they got shut down by corporate?

>>17744922
how tf did i move goal posts they are all shit cars (foxbody excluded) they made less hp handled comparably like garbage and sold like garbage my goal posts were fucking name a better car in its class

>>17744928
handles well, lightweight, cheap, easy to mod

>>17744795
>tfw born too late to work at the AMC plant in my hometown

There's a Wal-Mart there now.

>>17744940
>handles well
lol no
>lightweight
Not hard with low quality materials.
>cheap
As if that's a good thing.
>easy to mod
When your OEM parts practically fall off on their own, of course.

>>17744909
EXP made 120 hp
Sunbird made 165


>>17744935
lol Chryslerfags are always a little special

>only american brand trying to do something different in the 80s

so your wrong

and Foxbodies are complete shit as are just about every old American car

K-cars are just shitboxes to the core

>>17744929
This. See Pontiac's development of the Fiero, for one.

>>17744954
>and Foxbodies are complete shit as are just about every old American car

alright i see now jdm tite yo yurop cars are liek way bedar

>>17744954
>120hp
>165hp
weeeew lad

yeah they were ford and gm tried to do it and they axed it because they couldnt make a decent car

>>17744964
dude foxbodies are awful by nearly every measure until you dump thousands into them

even then the quality is awful

you seem to think that cheap garbage is good because its cheap

no its still garbage

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>>17744953
mmmk bb

>>17744978
>"I'm a blind consumerist fooled by 30-year-old ads."
lol

>>17744975
whats a good car bb? and foxbodies are great cars add panhard bar, lowering springs, new struts/shocks, sway bars and subframe connectors literally the best car of the 80s

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3 T O N S
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>>17744978
>people paid Mustang 5.0 money for that
>its still slower

kek
>>17744992
Foxbodies are garbage

even with that theyre worse than a stock Fbody
not even to mention proper sports cars

they have no quality to them
cheap shit cars

>>17744989
oh boy

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/1986-dodge-omni-shelby-glhs-instrumented-test-review

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/first-drives/reviews/a7841/1986-shelby-glh-s-drive-flashback/

https://www.hagerty.com/articles-videos/articles/2016/09/13/dodge-omni-glh

>>17744929
Look what they did to the Grand National.

Even today they could bring back a modern GN/GNX to compete with the Challenger and Mustang.

>>17745011
still not answering me on whats better

also worst that a stock fbody? theyre lighter have a larger cheaper aftermarket and are cheaper to buy not to mention you can actually find a manual foxbody unlike the fbody the fbody is a great car but no where near the foxbody in what you can do so easily and cheaply

>>17745011
also the glhs was made to be a track car which in doing wiped the floor with pretty much every other car

>>17745011
almost passed over
>proper sports car
weeew you yurop fags are ridiculous

>>17745036
Foxbody is more expensive
F-Body is still a much better car stock and requires less work

performance and quality

still you seem to think cheap garbage is good because its cheap and light

>>17745044
yeah I doubt it

>>17745064
you still have to overhaul the suspension of the f body and the only thing you have to do more for the foxbody is add a panhard bar its literally way better car and youll be in way less money theres about 4 turd gens in my area and theyre all ratty auto 305s while theres probably more than 10 foxbodies most of them really nice and of course all 5.0 stick cars

>yeah i doubt it
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/the-best-handling-american-car-is-archived-comparison-test-one-fine-piece-of-work-page-5

Even the hard-grunting Corvette couldn't get away during some of the high-altitude uphill runs, the Daytona boost pulling beautifully in the 'rarefied air.

not even the glhs

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>>17743711
Goddamn do i miss early 90's landyacht design.
>tfw landyachts are dead thanks to globalism

feels bad man

>>17745094
somehow the car with better suspension needs a complete overhaul while the horrible floppy shitbox just needs a bar

and lol I can get 4th gen Z28s for less than what people want for 5.0 Foxbodies

oh hey look

>Chevrolet Camaro Z28: The winner by a mile.

in a best handling test

thanks for proving my point

the Daytona beat out a Fiero and a Foxbody lol

>>17745094
shiiiett didnt even notice that they picked the heaviest version of the daytona too wewwww

>>17745109
we werent arguing stock and yeah they handle way better stock never said different and a nice foxbody where i live is 4 grand a rotted out 305 auto is the same then you have to spend more on parts cost vs a mustang and swap in a stick and a decent engine

>>17745109
also come on bb you literally have to swap the engine and trans plus the rear end to have a decent car with a fbody while
>385 for a panhard bar

>>17745118
more goalpost moving (which I guess is just damage control at this point)

I already stated stock and most arguments have been about stock

$4000 is a high mileage 4th gen Z28 or a nice IROC
if youre lucky you will get a convertible Foxbody for that

>>17745131
shame its still worse than a stock Fbody in all categories even if you put the bar on

>>17744795
>I suck alotta dick for a living the post

>>17745146
nigga wat we havent been arguing stock with the fox vs f body this whole time and no its definitely not worse than a fbody and the cheapest f body on my craigslist is a riced out rusty pos that i can get a supercharged fox for the same price im going to sleep man

>>17745223
well your area obviously favors the Fox
its the overpriced one here

I can get a lightly modified turdgen for the price of a ragged 5.0 unless its a convertible in which case they are a couple thousand cheaper usually

and nigga you been posting stock figures and magazine reviews this whole time

even my first line was

>foxbodies are awful by nearly every measure until you dump thousands into them

no matter like I said the Fbody is already better and takes less effort

have a nice sleep anon

>>17745251
brushin teeth you have to dump thousands into either theyre 30yr old cars everything is blown out everything you do to an fbody you do to a foxbody but cheaper and you end up with a better car in the end and that was for the k car argument theyre good cars alright now im going to sleep gotta wake up in 4 hours

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>>17743128
tfw your car gets randomly posted around /o/

>>17745104
>90's are over because of globalism
Can't you still look for one if you love them so much? Or you are a normie that's afraid to stand out by driving an old car?

>>17745268
holy shit, that was almost incoherent, the foxbody is fucking trash compared to the turd gen in every way possible

>>17743128
Large and incharge land bardges.

Fuck fuel economy, fuck the enviroment, I want to ride that V8 making 70hp til the day I die.

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I want a barge for cruising around in the summer.

>>17744963
And the Banshee, every generation of it.

>>17746755
Depending on where he lives, it might be difficult. Around here all the B-bodies rusted out years ago from the snow and the salt, and then the last of them were given up for Cash for Clunkers.

>>17747801
Finding the perfect car shouldn't be easy. I crossed two countries to get mine.

>>17745018
GNX would need a complete overhaul to get past the nigger car design from the previous generations of the 80s.

A boxy 80s pony car just looks like complete shit. I'd rather have a firebird reboot as a trim level for the Camaro.

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>>17743128
Japanese land yachts

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>>17748101
Not biggu enough. A real landyacht is idiotically large for no apparent reason. You can jam ten thanksgiving turkeys between the grille and the radiator of a real landyacht. Not because it makes sense, but because they simply made it that big.

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>>17743128
Chink boxes are made for manlets who openly admit that they have homosexual thoughts and feelings.

>>17748238
Neat NB

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>>17743128
RDM

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>>17748101
Exactly, I do like the old cars with no plastic on the exterior
>>17748238
Hahahaha

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>>17748291
>no plastic on the exterior
Except for everything that's circled.

>>17748303
I meant to say I like jap Luxo cars but also those not covered in plastic, I type like a retard.

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>>17748303

>>17748125
USA USA USA

>>17743128
JDM.
They perform well and are fun.
All landbarges are good at is making the least possible power from biggest possible displacement.
t. JDM sports car owner

>>17743128
>JEE TEE ARU
>straight 6 at just over 2L displacement with twin turbo
>380~ HP at the wheels
>weighs just over 3000 pounds
>all wheel drive

>lanbarge
>10L V8
>makes just over 112 horsepower - at the crank
>weighs well over 4000 pounds
>wrong wheel drive