[Daily Bike Thread - /dbt/]

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XR100R

Shit thread.
Scooters are not motorbikes
Delet

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>>17725079
Come fight me IRL faggot.

>>17725079
Honda Helix is GOAT, Anon.

>>17725097
Don't get me wrong, scooters can be fun and are very reasonable vehicles to own, but they're not bikes and therefore out of place in a bike thread. You wouldn't discuss Avatar: The Last Wind Breaker on /a/.

>>17725126
https://youtu.be/a01Ritcb_Dc?t=1

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Maybe you can help me out /dbt/, have a bit of a dilemma.
Haven't ridden in 2 weeks cause I was waiting on tire, going to replace it in a bit. My dilemma is I want to go on a ride right after, but I haven't really slept in 2 days. I feel like I would be ok, but, the safe voice in my head says don't. What do you guys think.

Have some anime and bike, just cause.

>>17725097
He's in the FL Keys.

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What are you working on dbt?
Gotta clean and adjust my carb and am gonna plastidip the plastics to try getting them to be all one colour instead of 15 different shades of sunfaded piss yellow.
Also gotta wash my drz and clean and lube the chain

>>17725159
So go to bed and sleep.
>he hasn't trained himself to be able to have lucid dreams
>he can't have the greatest rides of all time with no risk of dying while sleeping

>>17725174
I have insomnia.
Any sleep at all is a dream.
I could probably pass out now, but I got things to do, and I don't want to keep fucking my schedule.

>>17725169
Will order new seat when available.
Need to spray over rust on exhaust can.
Time for new brake pads on dad's baiku.
New clutch plates have arrived but still have a couple 1000 kms to go before I have to change it.
Need to research how much effort and money it would take to convert my CB into a Thundersport 500 legal bike.

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So in the last thread I mentioned someone wants to give me a Kawasaki H1 that needs some mechanical restoration, and /o/ seems to think I'm going to kill myself.

Looking for ways to avoid death-related problems.

>>17725169
see >>17725159
Although, now that I think about it, now may be a good time to replace the brake pads.

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>>17725194
Wasn't it an H2?

>>17725163
Looks like jap land to me nigga

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>>17725207

H1 500 from the '70s. Something like this.

>>17725097
Living the dream. Post more pictures.

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>>17725269
>>17725218
Not me, anons.

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>>17725277
I already searched it up anyway.

What're /dbt/'s thoughts on sheepskin pads? I saw some guy with one on a KLR and it looked both a: comfy af and b:sick af. Like a heavy metal album cover.

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>>17725277

>>17725292
They're comfy, I occasionally use one on my FJR. Also have a bigger one for my car because black leather sucks ass in the summer.

>>17725319
black leather also sucks in the winter, takes so long to get warm and sucks all the heat out of you.

My work car has leather seats, I don't get the draw of them at all.

>>17725292
Gay as fuck.

>>17725292
My bandit came with one. Doesn't really increase the comfort or padding of the seat. Apparently it keeps your ass warm during cold rides, but a) cold ass is the least of your worries on a naked bike in winter and b) it's more likely to get wet and stay wet, further chilling your ass

So I took it off. Get an airhawk or camping pillow if you're poor.

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>>17725385
Brother.

>>17725416

Cars with stickers like those are the reason I carry a quart of brake fluid with me wherever I go.

>>17725429
May I ask what you do with the brake fluid

>>17725416
What the shit those bumper sticker's trying to say? That you should make bad mistakes? That we should nuke former and now dead president Harry S. Truman?

>>17725447

Prolly just pours it on there like a cunt. It destroys paint.

>>17725416
1g frame the most aesthetic frame

I'm rebuilding the tokico 6 pots on my 2g cos they're siezed as fuck. Like two of the pistons come out until you pump the lever like four or five times.

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>>17725455
They're just stickers man, don't read into it so much.

>>17725459
Well I gave up caring. Already had my car egged twice. Lotta people out there with the mentality stop liking what I don't like.

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hello friends

So, I'm going to do the blue ridge parkway over labor day weekend and I'll be camping along the way, and I had a few questions that hopefully you guys can help me out with:

Has anyone done it over labor day weekend and know if it will be crazy busy to the point it'll be hard to have any fun on the BRP?

Do the campsites along the way typically accept walk-ins at the last second? How hard will it be to even find an open spot?

I don't know shit about camping, and I especially don't know shit about motocamping

>>17725292
i rode with one on the iron butt i did last month, i would strongly recommend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOPMY3GAeHA

>Harley comparison in 3, 2, 1...

>>17725471
pls respond

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>>17725292
I personally like beads but are you after warmbutt or ventbutt?

>>17725429
Are you sure it had nothing to do with the porn sticker and the profanity? Their kids see that shit.

Do you have autism?

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Carbs slide is binding so the throttle is sticking, what do? I miss the 2 stroke power :(

>>17725594
>literally ass beads
Trap anon?

>>17725594
I don't really know. My 750 Nighthawk seat is in excellent shape but it's yet to see a winter and I live in Oregon so it'll be a wet one. I made it fine on 800 miles across 2 days stock seat, testament to the upholstery's shape, but I'd like to preserve that leather and hang with a little extra warmth.

>>17725661
steel wool and solvent? bit of teflon on the reassembly?
new slide

>>17725661
Fuel injection conversion

>on the 3rd year she rose again
Resurrecting my sv650s 2006 after 3 yrs of garage storage. I'm planning to change oil, brake fluid, fuel, battery. I'll inspect and refill tires.
What else should I check?

>>17725707
Then beads are definitely not for you, they increase ventilation a ton so you'd have a chapped ass in the winter.

>>17725661
Check if your carb body is warped. It shouldn't bind even if the coating is rubbed off. I remember one scooter I worked on where overtightening the flange bolts warped the carb body enough to make the slide stick.

Unfortunately, if the body is warped, the remedy is probably a replacement carb. Or maybe needle files or somehow un-warpening it, neither options I have high hopes for.

What bike is this?

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>>17725069
Scooters are neat!

I don't ride one anymore.

And sp it goes

>>17725732
Get a Lithium battery. I've bought two, they really spin the engine.

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>>17725581
connecting curved roads is a fairly non-trivial task actually http://www.redblobgames.com/articles/curved-paths/ (pic is only a small section)
Also this blog has several other fascinating entries about these sorts of problems

>>17725126
I tried that once out of ignorance, actually
There was a lot of screeching

>/dbt/
>no pic of grom faggot

Why does this brings me relief?

>>17725126
>>17725822
Really? I got some tech advice on a vintage vespa here that really saved my bacon

My first bike, a klx250. Ive never drove stick so im having some issues shifting properly but I fucking love it..

Got it for 3k with only 600 miles on it, almost brand new.

>>17725126
wait avatar isnt animoo?
so im right about animoos having to be filthy pedophile fantasies then?
not innocent childrens television?

>>17725469
oh fug the uncensored galil was actually released

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>>17725841
forgot picture

>>17725837
Well I meant I asked about atla on /a/
scooters are fine around here though people will tease
Maybe in the OP is a bit strong but variety is nice

>>17725807
Lithium battery
>speeding ball of fire on the freeway
I've already decided to go with yuasa

>>17725732
dbt sticker

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>>17725581
That's nothing

>>17725871
You guys can't do a double apex?

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>>17725713
Sprayed some lube on it and it would slide okay for a couple pulls then bind and get stuck again. Hopefullu i don't need a new slide
>>17725722
Send me a motor from the new FI ktm and I'll drop it right in
>>17725753
How do I see if it's warped, looking down through it it looks straight and smooth. The bike was running fine when I stopped riding it in the spring, but now when i tried it the slide is binding. It can go wide open to half throttle fine bit it won't go below that unless I physically wiggle and pull the slide down. Then sometimes it won't go back up and I have to wiggle and force it back up. I don't see how it would warp from sitting though.
Bike is a 91 rm 250

I have an older scooter and I have to drive 40 Km combined every weekday to and from my destination where the highest speed I'm allowed to travel is 70 Km/H thanks to shitty country roads with low limits and I'm just wondering how I'm going to survive winter? There's no guarantee of snow but I need tips on how to survive the cold since this is my first winter owning a bike.

>>17725943
Im in the same boat anon but ive got a dual sport

>>17725895
If you have to force the slide then something is seriously fucked, either the carb is warped or the slide is fucked.

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>>17725883
The first one isn't a double apex per se, the second one is annoying because the second apex is absurdly close to where it merges into the other freeway so you have to find your turn-in point at the same time you're trying to judge the speed of traffic coming TOWARDS you and commit to entering during the tightest part of the corner.

Keep in mind of course the camera is way the fuck up on top of the google van and the orange cones are now guard rail so it's much harder to see what's coming while turning a bike.

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>>17725970
Fuck, don't understand how it would happen just from sitting. Going to hit it with some fine sandpaper on the little scratches tommorrow and see if that works.

>>17725852
Congrats anon, have fun and stay safe

>>17725169
I was just packing my shit up so I can leave for Eastern Oregon on Saturday morning. Want to see the damn eclipse.

>>17725807
>can't jump them
>worse in cold and heat
>more volatile
Doesn't seem worth saving 5lb. Just take a big shit and it'll be the same weight savings.

>>17726026
check the arm for binding and make sure theres no grit or corrosion in any of the moving assemblies

>>17725895
I've dealt with a friend's bike with a similar issue. Its throttle linkage was binding. I lubed it up and worked it around and it was good to go. I lubed up the slide too.

>>17726026
Is the carb off the bike?

Does anyone know if the H2 and H2R are being sold at a loss?

If there is a god he definitely hates me.
Couldn't enjoy almost anything about my ride.
Bikes running weird, prolly cause it sat for a week.
Earbuds are giving me all kinda of trouble.
People on the road are shit.
Any time theres a curve good enough to get a decent lean, there's too many people.
Why did I even leave.

>>17725852
Fun little bike man, go forth and look at the world.

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I think I'm gonna buy me a sv650 I love how it looks lads

>>17726120
Gross
Get a FZ6

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Feels bad man

>>17726166
Nah it's got that sweet 90s aesthetic

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>>17726120
Sv650 a best

>>17726242
Is that yours? How does she ride?

>>17726255
Yep, about 5k miles on it now, I've owned it since November or so.

I don't have that much to say about it to be honest; It's fast enough for me, it handles very well, the brakes are fine and have good feel.

>>17726301
As long as you're happy with the purchase that's all I need to know

>>17726120
>2017
>no USD forks
Wew

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>>17726166
gross

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Why does this have to be chink shit?
>$1000 brand new
>250cc
>street legal
>off road capable
>200lbs
>14hp
>looks cool as fug (imo)
WWWHHHYYYYYYYY

>>17726356
If it's $1000 brand new you can't really go wrong.

I had a Chinese dirt bike for a few years and never had a problem

>>17726324
Yeah I adore it, it's a great bike

>>17726356
>stop being poor

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Thinking about picking up a DR650 as a first bike. Can you guys yell at me rudely to either affirm my decision or make me question it?

>>17726387
Stop making assumptions

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>>17726402
solid bikes, good aftermarket and pretty capable all things considered.

>>17726385
Not having USD forks isn't a good thing but I'm happy for you

>>17725895
I had a carb like this. It's butterfly would stick and require force... I'd hit it with brake cleaner (pure acetone where I live) and it would be fine... Until all the acetone evaporated, then sticky...

The cure was to disassemble the carb and hit every bit with acetone. Don't soak anything rubber in acetone for more than a few seconds, it's bad for rubber. Spraying on and letting it flash off is OK. non-rubber parts can be soaked but you won't need to, probably.

If you don't want to disassemble it, then just take the top cover and float bowl off and boil it in water for fifteen or twenty minutes. Won't hurt anything and melts away all the goo.

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>>17726324
>21'st century
>damper rod forks

Great bike though

>>17726405
>pissin' and moanin' about $1k

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>>17726402
Xr650 is better

>>17726435
>>17726416
>>17726324

Is this the new shitty meme?

>>17726452
>reading comprehension

>>17726455
>XRR as a first bike
who gets dibs on it when he dies?

>>17726466
The XRL exists too
XRR isnt even powerful anyway

>>17726456
Only shitty thing here is the sv650 forks

My brother left his 2007 Ninja 250 under my deck 4 years ago where it's sat, unrun, unmaintained but covered from the elements for the most part, mostly just still exposed to heat and cold. How much of a chore would it be to get it running again? Where would I start? I'm not that mechanically inclined, but was thinking might be a good way to learn unless I fuck it up completely. I've only rode the occasional friend's dirt bike as a kid, so I was thinking about getting something for the road.

He lives in another state and said if I can get it running, I can have it, but I'm not sure the labor is worth the difference in just buying a different one.

>>17726468
yes it exists, but you posted the XRR
and at 300some pounds and tall, its a good recipe for a rookie to whiskey off something

I've been watching dirt bike blowing up and fire compilations. KTM doesn't seem overrepresented in breakdowns but they sure are in fires.

>>17726497
I couldnt find as RAD of a picture of the XRL
Calm your autism

>>17726492
>clean carb
>replace fluids
>brum brum
>replace tires
ez

>>17726518
post relevant images, not the wrong bike entirely then

>>17726536
No. I will not.
Learn to deal with your crippling autism

>>17726541
>projecting as damage control
keep trying

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>>17726455
From what I've read you're right, but it's harder to find decent used ones, it's more expensive, and I dont think it has as much aftermarket.

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FZ6
Yes/no?
I can get one for under $3k with less than 10k miles.

>>17726356
>250cc
>14hp

what the heck

>>17726589
Pretty normal for old aircooled stuff.

>>17726599
I've never owned a liquid cooled bike or a four stroke but that still seems wild. A suzuki ts90 will get 10hp out with only 90cc and that was in the early seventies.

>>17726617
Are you new to bikes?
2 strokes make more power than 4 strokes

>>17726589
>>17726617
>chinese
>held to modern emissions standards

>>17726599
Not really, even an air cooled 250 from the 70's or 80's should have at least 20.

>>17726646
Post examples with sources that arent modded or race bikes.

So is there a trick to getting a good deal on a new motorbike? I want to buy a new(or a model year older) ninja 650 in cali.
There doesn't seem to be a "true bike." and I haven't seen any invoice prices etc. So how does one haggle or not at a dealership?

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>>17726651

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>>17726654
missed my pic

>>17726584
Yes they're great

>>17726468
The 650L is a shitty bike compared to the R version.
Plus I don't even think the R is street legal.

>>17725594
>that ammo can
>that lashing
>that everything
unf

>>17726646
Honda rebel 250s make 16hp
And its a 2cyl
Normal air cooled usually stayed under 100hp/L because they cant cool efficiently for higher power.
>>17726666
18hp isnt much either

>>17726676
I disagree.
And the XRR is legal in my state

>>17726651
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_sr250%2080.htm

It's not like it's that mind blowing of a claim, this was the first one I found but I'm sure there are more.

Anyone ride in the rain frequently? I'm moving to seattle, and haven't had much experience riding in the rain yet.

Besides making sure I accelerate / brake more slowly, what can I do to make riding in the rain safer / more enjoyable?

>>17726703
Buy a van to put your bike in so you can drive your bike to work incase it doesn't rain.

>>17726682
the 80s xl250s came with 24hp

>>17726709
No

>>17726219
Why do sportbike bros always ride straight armed like this? It looks goofy.

>>17726703
Yes I ride my bike for 8 months of the year in the PNW

Get some baggy rain pants, heated grips, and good turd

>>17726719
>good turd
Good tires

Fucking autistic phone

>>17726703
Buy one of those one piece textile rain suits, comfy as fuck.

>>17726717
The closer to vertical your back is the more comfortable you are, or at least it takes some strain off holding yourself up.

>>17726423
Pine-sol, seriously ( google it if you think I'm fuckin with ya ) Just put the whole fucking thing in a big tub of it.

>honda dominating again
wew

i hope honda never makes V4 sportbike

maintenance on my VFR is shit

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>>17726050
>>17726051
I believe it is the slide for sure because it still moves rough when I use my fingers to push it up an down, I'll look it over again tomorrow after work
>>17726061
Yeah it's off, I had just took it apart and cleaned it because I though it had a stuck float or stuck needle but it is the slide itself that's sticking.
>>17726423
Yeah I took it apart and cleaned everything, it moves okay while the slide is wet from lube or cleaner but then gets stuck again just after
Gonna look at it again tomorrow, had very little time today

>>17725069
Why don't 600cc bikes get all the tech?

What if I don't want a literbike, but I want the goodies?

>>17726813
>falling for the VFR meme
We told you bro

gonna buy a street triple, non R

can either buy 2013 non abs for 4600(8k miles) or a 2014 abs for 5100 (3k miles)

what do? my budget for a bike was fucking 4k

>>17726915
Save more money until you're comfortable spending that much.

>>17726915
I'd go for the cheaper one unless there was an update in 2014. ABS isn't worth $500 to me.

>>17726915
Save more money, get the lower mile ( and newer one ) with the ABS. $ 500 extra is cheap for 1 year newer, 1/2 the miles and a worthwhile safety feature.

>>17726870
600s are nothing more than the poorfag versions of liter bikes at this point. The class is dead

>>17727057
I'm not a poorfag, but I've only rode for a year now, and I want to work my way up. A liter bike right now doesn't seem like a good idea.

>>17727065
Then get an older one

>>17727031
Until I owned a bike with ABS and a Slipper clutch on it I wasn't sold on either. Now that I have one with both I would solidly say that they are worth 500-1000 premium for both if they are well done systems. If they aren't well done, cost more than that, or aren't available on the exact bike you want they aren't needed.

>>17727080
Slipper clutch I use all the time. I've been riding for 12 years now, my last bike had ABS, my current bike doesn't, and I've never missed it.

Not saying that's going to be the same for everybody but I was just talking about my personal preferences

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why do all motorcycle gangs ride harleys?

why do none ride sportbikes?

i wanna be part of dat ganglife

is it ok to cut out a small part of the cheekpads in my helmet so i can fit my glasses ?

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Got my first bike guys xD

>>17727313
There are plenty of local gangs on sport bikes, just not any that are operating on a national scale and get that level of press coverage.

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Why do no motorcycle gangs ride adventure bikes?

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>>17725256
About that...

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>tfw no Zealous Ant bike
It hurts, bros.

>pop seat on FZ6
>literally nothing there
>pop tank
>battery crammed under an unusable fuse box
>wires going behind frame rails like keeping the underside of the tank looking clean was a design goal
>everything else crammed under the airbox

Is there a such thing as a fuel injected bike that is easy to work on?

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>>17727433
>not having can bus
I pity the pleb

>>17727433
Modern Japanese bikes are complete shit to work on.

Between making everything inaccessible and the JIS screws everywhere it makes me want to kill myself.

>>17727438
That would be even worse actually

Every nip bike I've owned before this had the harness accessible to the point where you could trace it with your eye so long as the tank was lifted and the seat removed. This one is hidden alongside the frame rails like the under-tank and under-seat areas were meant to be showroom items, so removing half the damn bike is necessary to even look at it. What the fuck.

>>17727431
>The Ninja 1000 is also strangely fitted with an electronicspeed limiter,[10]not because it is capable of exceeding the 300km/h (186mph) agreed to in thegentlemen's agreementbut apparently to keep its top speed the same as the unfaired and unlimited Z1000.
KEKED

>>17727456
What
Source

>>17727460
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kawasaki_Ninja_1000
You should set your sights on the superior angry duck sports tourer

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>>17727464
Forgot pic

>>17727466
I want to put a baby in that bike

>Make a sportbike comfy
>add 80+lbs of weight

Fucking why

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>>17727466
Why did you post a wiki link to the Ninja 1000?
The BMW doesn't make my wee wee hard like the Ninja or the MAJESTIC porpoise do. It looks too much like an adventure bike.

>>17727473
Don't forget
>make a sportbike naked
>cuck it's engine by 40HP

>>17727476
Because of he asked for the source?
Have they updated the gsxf yet or is it still the 145hp with bad fueling?

>>17727488
Oh right. Wikipedia is not a source, anyone can edit it. I checked the source linked in that article and basically, that was the articles author bullshitting around -- representatives couldn't say what the limit was, the author ASSUMED it was the same as the Z1000's and then ASSUMED that the Z doesn't have one because of its inferior aerodynamics.
This illustrates nicely one of the problems with people nowadays (well, always, really): everyone just parrots whatever shit they heard that reinforces beliefs they already hold, without checking the source of thinking about it for a second.

>>17727488
I don't think they've updated the GSX-S1000F yet, haven't checked. I just like its styling.

>>17727473
Theory 1: Cost cutting using cheaper swingarms, increasing cargo capacity with stronger subframes for old men who carry their fat wife along with their gear (unlike young guys who strap everything to the passenger seat because your givi shit is too expensive and girls should get their own bikes)
Theory 2: Conspiracy to keep people buying sportbikes

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What do you guys think of the GS500?

I'm looking for a cheap first bike that I can ride to work and still have fun with on weekends.

Are there any other naked bikes around a similar size that I should look at as well?

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>>17727506
The GS500 is objectively the best beginner bike.
> mileage
It's a mid-sized 4stroke twin cylinder bike, so it drinks less than 6 liters per 100 km.
> handling
It handles nothing like a supersport, spoiling you for when you get something else. But it can also corner much better than something like a cruiser, and actually uses its entire rear tire unlike a Ninja 250.
> brakes
They are complete shit and their only redeeming feature is that they're disc brakes. This is good because the longer braking distance forces new riders to plan ahead and start braking early. No ABS means they learn to brake properly I'd they don't want to get shrekt.
> power
It sits right at the power limit for A2 bikes which is great for euros. It's torquey enough to be faster off the line than most cars you'll encounter in the city. But it also feels relatively gutless so a) it's forgiving of mistakes and b) you can ride it at the limit without putting yourself into too much danger. It reaches up to 180 km/h which is fast enough for highway riding.
> carbs
It being carbed means that if you run into problems, you can learn to fix them yourself instead of heading to the mechanic every time.
> seating position
Upright, slightly forward means it's a neutral riding position so you can figure out what you want afterwards. The seat is relatively uncomfortable making literally every other bike after it will feel like heaven on your ass.
> price and availability
Parts and the bikes themselves are cheap and plentiful. If you crash and fuck up one of your fairings it's 40 euros to replace it with original parts. Engine needs little maintenance. Beginner riders are typically not financially independent, so this is a big plus for them.
> suspension
It's a budget suspension factoring into the overall low cost of getting a GS 500. If you want better suspension it's easy to swap. Therefore it gives beginners an opportunity to learn working on suspension while keeping the cost manageable.

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>>17727506
it's garbage for eurocucks

buy the superior outdated 500 twin. it's better in literally every way.

but carbs are a shit
>hurr you can fix it yourself!
Fixing EFI problems: Replacing a bad sensor or leaky injector
Fixing carb problems: Complete dissasembly of the carbs, sourcing new gaskets, rebuilding that shit, followed by tuning and syncing everything from scratch

>>17727506
It's cheap

Not much else to say about it, it's a shitty motorcycle in every regard but the price reflects that.

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>>17727520
>superior outdated 500 twin
>Kawasaki
you were so close.

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co-worker is selling his honda blackbird and it kind of got me interested in motorcycles

what kind of jump is it to ride motorcycle compared to regular car?

do bikes require much more maintenance than cars?

also is 4000 euros too much for a 2004 blackbird with 70 000km on it? cuz thats very little for car but i dont know that much about bikes

>>17727517
>>17727520
I'm an Ausfag, if that makes a difference.

>>17727528
it's totally fucking fucked mate, big time

every wear item on a bike takes more abuse than its equivalent on a car. even the fucking wheel bearings.

>>17727529
Stop pretending you're a complete noob, ninja 650 crash anon / cb400sf anon. Everyone knows there's only one Australian on /dbt/.

Okay, memes aside, you should look for an ER-5 / GPZ-500 or (even better) a CB 500 instead. The CBF 500 is updated with comfier ergos and fuel injection.

>>17727536
I was looking at a CB500F, but I think they're just too expensive for me.

I mean, I'd be willing to spend that much money on a bike if I knew I'd like it, but I don't know if I'll stick in the hobby at all yet.

>>17727528
>is 4000 euros too much for a 2004 blackbird with 70 000km on it?
Yes, tell that idiot to get fucked

>>17727543
So test ride one to see if you like it. You can most likely sell it for the same or even a little bit more than you bought it for, if you don't ride it much and take care of it. Plus you do realize you need gear that will probably run you like 1k AUD, right?

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>>17727536
Don't drag me down with you
>>17727543
get a used cb400sf, can find them for 2-6k depending on if it is a nc39 or nc42 and blah blah.

>>17727556
He doesn't want a CBF 500 because it's too expensive, and you're recommending him a CB400SF?

Want to ride but too hungover

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>>17727561
pic has 15k km on the clock and the dude wants a dirt bike badly, could easily get it for 3k if you showed up with cash.

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>>17727561
>>17727574
Or how about a 2011 nc42 with 28k km for the same price?

>>17727574
>>17727577
CBFs are like 3k regularly and can go as low as 2.5 AUD I reckon. Maybe even less. So if those are too expensive, SFs surely are, too.

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>>17727579
wrong.

>>17727579
I've never seen anything even close to that.
They're all upwards of $5k from what I've seen.

>>17727543
Don't get a cheap, uncomfortable bike that rides like shit either

Get a beater 90s bike that was considered good in its heyday. If something bad happens it won't be worth much less than the <$2k you paid for it.

>>17727579
I sold mine for 4k last year and it was the cheapest in the area by a decent margin

>>17727581
CB500F != CBF

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>>17727620
They are actually a very rare bike in Australia.
be lucky to find a newer one never mind an older one.

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>>17727627

>>17727631
>>17727627
Huh who'd have thought. In that case the CB400sf might actually not be a bad choice 2bh.
Whoa deja vu.

If that's still too expensive, CB 500 (PC 26 or 32, made from 93 to 03 or so). Don't get a GS 500 unless you are prepared to shitpost about it day and night proclaiming it to be the best beginner bike.

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>>17727637
Ehhh depends really, the reason you don't want a gs500 is you will be riding a fucking gs500 for nearly 4 years, talk about painful.
they can be bought for like 2k though. (pic i probably a bad example it crashed hard by the looks of those plastics)
cb400sf is at least a good bike though, you aren't going to hate the thing once your lams is up at least.

90s sportbikes are the best beginner bikes

>>17727645
Hence why I told him not to get a GS 500, dummy. The CB 500 is a decent enough bike.

>>17727648
cb500f or cbf500?
now im confused.
because i thought we agreed cb500f is too expensive and cbf500 is too exclusive.

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>>17727651
CB 500, the precursor to the CBF 500.

>>17727653
they are rare too, fairly sure the only ones in Australia would be grey imports

>>17727677
No wonder you guys are all shitposters when you don't even get normal fucking beginner bikes.

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>>17727681
That's it boii

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Topbox finally arrived, it doesn't look too bad... d-does it?

>>17727736
Tumor. Tank bag or bust senpai

>bike starting to feel real fukken sketchy now when I slow down
>have to grip the handlebar more than before
>can feel the tire not gripping as hard as I slow down
>don't have money for both brakes and tires
>could do front brake+front tire this month
>rear brake+rear tire next month
>also a general vibration has come up, and chain adjustment/tire pressure hasn't fixed it
>probably a sprocket
hoooo boy.
This is gonna be an expensive season.
I'm thinking of just toughing it out and selling the bike in the spring.
Should I?

>>17727736
Nice beautycase.

>>17727752
You seem like the kind of person who does not check his tyre pressure.
when was the last time you checked the tyre pressure?
or are you literally running them onto the wires?

>>17727752
How can you be this poor?

How is MV Augusta reliability?

On a scale of Yamaha to KTM

>>17727752
>Expensive

A tire is like $150
A chain and sprockets adds up to $80 maybe
Brake pads are $20
Brake fluid is like $10

>>17727771
Rotax/10

>>17727771
KTM looks pretty good in comparison

>>17727736
>Buys an impractical toy
>Trys to make it practical
Why do people do this? Top boxes always look bad but if you're happy with it who gives a fuck?

>>17727768
KTM level with worse parts network

>>17727779
>Implying bikes can't be practical

>>17727777
>>17727780
Fuggg, shop by my house sells them and they look and sound like sex.

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>>17726120
everytime i see a sv650 i just cant get over all the exposed stuff on the front of the engine. i dont know why but i just dont like that. i feel like something is just going to smash the shit out of it. other than that i love the way it looks.
oh and with that "chin spoiler thing" it looks better imo

>>17727779
>impractical toy
Bikes are actually very practical for everything but shit weather and carrying passengers, but expensive hard luggage makes them anything but. It just makes them expensive and ugly, and even limits your carrying options a little. Hard luggage is very much single purpose compared to ye old tie downs and waterproof bags.

Luggage rack > panniers

if you want a hard case, put brackets on the hard case (pelicans are cheap) and drill a few holes in the rack that match them

>>17727788
You're better off buying an Aprilia

>>17727764
Born lower class. Going to school for a better paying job, working full time while doing so. Some people have life harder than you.
>>17727758
I've still got a lot of tread left, the tires are just beginning to lose traction.
>>17727774
>$410 for the whole kit and kaboodle
>don't have $410 in the bank right now
>still have bills to cover this month

>>17727797
What are your other expenses? TV, internet, phone?

A lot, and by a lot I mean 99%, of milennials whine about shit but it turns out they pay $100+ a month just for their leased iphone and a plan from verizon or something when they could be using an unlocked android smartphone from ebay for $50 and a plan from some prepaid company like tracphone for $15 a month. And pay for TV service and cable internet instead of DSL on top of that.

>i am but a poor student but i still gotta snapchat and stream game of thrones!

>>17727797
>tfw 22yo with $42k in the bank
>still a cheapskate and won't buy a bike because expensive

>>17727797
>Some people have life harder than you.
Nigga I rode a pedal bike when I was going to school, maybe you should have got something more practical or used public transportation.

>>17727805
i bet he's spending over a hundo on car insurance too

I want to be part of a sportbike gang

>>17727802
one of the bigger expenses of students is alcohol, but have fun trying to convince them to drop that shit rofl

>>17727808
We heard you the last 2 times

>>17727808
>ride sportbike as part of a gang
>hunched over all the time, no mobility, can't see as well, can hardly look behind you
>flashier bike is easier to spot and remember

>>17727813
I want to be part of a sportbike gang

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I want to be part of an italian motorcycle gang

no britfag, weeb, or americuck bikes allowed. Italian gear only. All leather. Final destination.

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>>17727816
I want to be part of a bicycle gang.

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>>17727794
They don't look like this though

>>17727827
It looks like a chode

>>17727821
>gang dispute between the flyin' pizzas and the horrible hondas
>horrible hondas challenge them to a race
>win by default as the majority of the flyin pizza's bikes failed to start, and the remaining crapped out and died before the race was finished
>the only horrible honda bike to fail was a VFR800 that was too overdue for a valve check

>>17727830
You need to go to a hospital ASAP

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>>17727827
Looks like hipster shit

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Am I missing anything that might be useful as a sort of check list when buying a used shitty 250 (first bike)?

- electronics work

- no severe drop damage (drop scratches inevitable at my price range

- starts cold

- able to sit and warm up for a couple minutes, bring down choke

- revs nicely, no smokes/leaks

- clutch is smooth and catches nicely, goes through the gears nicely

- levers, pegs and shifter aren't damaged/bent

- no rust in the tank

-chain lubricated, no sharks on sprocket

-paperwork for services/carb cleans

-battery

I think carburetors are what is worrying me since one failed on the last bike I test drove, how can i ensure the bike won't just die on me?

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>>17727771
They're lauded as the Italian honda for what it's worth. Though I haven't heard that phrase nearly as often ever since the RSV4 came to market.

>>17727842
>carb failure

wat

>>17727802
No TV, Internet is at fifty and I'm not reducing that because vidya, phone is 30.
I do eat fairly cheap and only eat out twice a month, unless it's social with family.
Rent is good, about six hundred a month.
I bought my bike with cash, and I do have a credit card. I just don't use it for large purchases unless I have the money to pay it within the month.
Also I should have nice things like bikes. It's still within my means, I just gotta carefully plan it out. And we're past the halfway point in the season and I've done my big rides I planned for the year.

So I'm deciding how much I should put into a bike. If I put another 400 into it, do I wanna stay on a 500 Ninja another year? I like the sport tourers, and I really wanna pick up a cheap katana 600 to do it and get some more long distance rides down.

But if I don't put money in the ninja, I will have to sell lower. But if I slap four hundred dollars on it in parts, do I take that loss?

It's pretty complex, being poor.

>>17727842
Hold the front brake and try to move it forward really hard. If it clunks don't buy it.
Prop the front up and make sure the bars move freely with a nudge.
Wipe the forks clean and then pump the fuck out of them and check for oil. No, it's never just dirt. It's oil. Wipe it clean and do it again, it's oil.
Any squeaking in the rear is bad.
Both wheels should be rock solid, not move side to side, and not make any noise if you spin them in the air.
Shift into second and then give it the fucking beans. Second is the first gear to start popping out on all bikes.

>>17727844
That's aprilia

>>17727848
>katan 600 from a ninja 500
Don't do minor upgrades and sidegrades if you're poor.

Wait a while and get an actual upgrade, like a CBR650.

>>17727850
>>17727794

I got confused by this, i'm easily confused.

>>17727856
See, this is an option too. Hold on to the Ninja while I'm in school, work my credit card to better my score, get on a good loaner, buy a new bike on a loan after I get out of school.

>>17727869
No, don't do that. Financing bikes is fucking dumb.

You can get barely ridden current year models for 70% of MSRP/whatever the owner owes+a grand because of all the people that buy them but don't ride them.

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>>17727528
>Starting on a bike that produces 100kW

>>17727874
doable

not everyone is naemd ricky racer and goes WOT everywhere until they meet a corner and die

>inb4 "these bikes don't tolerate mistakes" bullshit written by an obvious nobike/cantride scooterfag

>>17727869
>>17727873
Financing anything besides a home is retarded. Save your money and buy outright.

>>17727878
Financing a home with land is also retarded since interest is always money lost, but less retarded than throwing your money down a hook nosed toilet and living in an apartment because it is still an asset you can get returns on.

>>17727882
Finance isn't dumb if the investment's going to generate more than the cost of financing it.

Liability's cheaper than equity, it's economics 101.

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drunk af

bike pic

>>17727860
Aprilia uses outsourced engines and Suzuki parts, it's the most reliable italian brand by a longshot, problem is it's also a lot smaller than other manufacturers

>>17727873
That's another option I would consider. A good fz6, or an sv650
Part of me wants the four pot for the noise. It's vain. But I don't care.
A Honda vfr800, I could keep that a long time.
Is vtec bad on the Hondas?

>>17727847
well thats what i thought it was, im not sure since im unfamiliar with bikes

The bike's acceleration started to go to shit and when I brought it down off the throttle and stopped the bike died and wouldn't start. Smelled a lot like gas too. I wasn't sure if it was just lean mixture or if there were other problems but that put me off

>>17727850
pump forks as in pump my weight on the front of the bike? where am i looking for oil to be coming from? im new to this but ty

>>17727900
>FZ6
>SV650
More sidegrades man. You're going from one budget bike to a slightly faster budget bike, not even a significantly faster budget bike. Save a few grand and get a liter naked or near-liter like an FZ9 at the very least.

>VFR800
The maintenance is very expensive and time consuming on those even if you do it yourself.

>>17727901
pump them like a pogo stick

if there's a ring of oil anywhere on the fork, or a little oil around where the shiny part meets the not so shiny part, the fork seals are bad and need to be replaced. a shop will charge several hundred. for a novice, it's a difficult job that starts with getting the bike to stay up without a front end.

>>17727896
I'm aware I just thought he was asking about Aprilia reliability. Hence what I said about the RSV4.

Didn't know the suzuki parts bit though? I thought they'd just go shopping at the short list suppliers: brembo, marzocchi, rotax, bosch and fumbled a frame around it.

>>17727900
VTEC ruined that engine
Kicks in right in the middle so it tries to kick the rear out mid corner
And as reliable as hondas are it makes a valve check as expensive as on a desmodronic ducati

>>17727912
>fumbled a frame
Nigga wat
They make some of the best handling frames around and their hand welds hold up better than honda's

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>>17727896
>tfw my Aprilia is currently apart
>shop took so long to actually order the parts that the Aprilia shop is closed for the summer, can't send parts until they open
ebin, rain is going to start again soon

>>17727903
Liter is too expensive in my area. At least at this stage. So if the vfr800 is too much for maintenance, where do I go? Gixxer 750? Is there a sport-standard or tourer version of it after the katana was axed?

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>tfw the italians had a dbt back in 1914 with their own map
>they're more than dbt today

>>17727920
GSXR750. Save additional money for bar risers. Put some sheepskin on the seat.

Sport tourers are a meme

>>17727914
Also the worst part is that my brother was literally just in Italy, if the mechanic was a few days quicker he could have physically picked up the part and flown home with it and I'd be riding right now instead of driving my car in the heat like a sweaty cunt.

>>17725469
The correct spelling of the Russian-written sticker is "B мoём бapдaчкe ecть вoдкa". Бapдaчoк -> бapдaчкe, see? There's a mistake in grammatical case you got there.

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>>17725069
Does anyone know about customer fairings? I'd love to have old school CBR type fairing on my 250 <3 I can't seem to find much on jewgle

How do I keep my wheels clean? The brake dust, grease, and road/tire debris makes me have to clean them like every few weeks. It's a pain too because of the shape of them.

>>17727939
You have to clean them every ride or they won't stay clean.

>>17727944
Lol fuck that

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>>17727900
It's awesome. The new SV650 looks pretty good too though. Fuck the fazer.

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>>17727792
>>17727779
shitting on hard cases, wot m8?
>waterproof
>quick and easy to open and close
>quick and easy to remove and take inside
>protects your stuff from niggers
>protects your stuff from impacts

I've done a few years of sport touring and commute every day. I ran a luggage net for ages and before that a full set of wolfman waterproofs. Before that, a large duffel strapped to the seat. All of it was fiddly, all of it shifted and needed constant checks and tightening especially over washboard roads or 80+ mph blasts. Getting one thing out was a fucking drag and if the bag was wet and you opened it, all your stuff got drenched. Running the cargo net was slightly better for commuting, but still, if I decided to get some milk and bread on the way home, I would have to unstrap my work bag and then stack/crush the groceries and re-tie everything back down for the 1km trip home. Pic related.

So I'm gonna give hard bags a go for a while.

>>17727972
Why not put a backpack on your back and that other stuff under the net? I always have a cover for my bike strapped to the backseat (does not gets stolen because who the fuck needs a dirty bike cover) and use a backpack to carry my stuff.

>>17727417
because gangs are not for faggots

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>>17727981
should have mentioned that I started out with backpacks
>you will get a sore back in two seconds
>especially if you ride a sportier bike
>restricts your movement
>catches wind and buffets your body around

Pic related, I strapped my backpack to the passenger seat when I was just getting in to longer rides, it does the job. Just at the minimum convenience level.

>>17727981
Why not strap the backpack to the bike?

>not owning a waterproof backpack

>>17727953
The new sv650 looks infintely worse and more budget than anything the competitors are offering at the moment. Compared to the MT-07 or CBF650 you must be mental to get one.
You really don't want to see it up close. Everything is cheap and ucky.

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>>17727998
Get a luggage rack so you can affix the backpack to the bike using its own straps if your grab rails don't allow it

Before givi started jewing people and niggers started stealing shit, most cycle travelers who didn't ride baggers had racks for the extra tie downs and supports and just strapped carry backs to everything.

You won't see much of this shit on modern bikes except for cruisers because it doesn't look as sleek and modern, and cruiser riders generally live in places where people don't steal your shit (ie: not yurop)

>>17727998
>you will get a sore back in two seconds
You have some back problems or your backpack is too heavy for you. Seriously.
>restricts your movement
It's not like riding a motorcycle requires a lot of movement.
>catches wind and buffets your body around
Are you a little girl or a racer? I'm a skinny guy and feel ok doing 150kmph with backpach and no windshield.
>>17728000
You can, but he complained that he has to re-strap after going for groceries

>>17728021
>unzip backpack with it still strapped to the bike
>shove that shit in

Can someone explain why ktms on this board have such bad rep? Is that american thing? Or are those just bad memes? Over here in eastern yuropoor if you want a dirtbike, you only get something else if you cant afford ktm. Maintenance is the same as any other bike, but anything else definetly gets smoked powerwise, even if they have the same horspower on paper.

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Rate memes

>>17728040
In the US, many of us ride dual sports instead of trucking our offroad-only bikes to dedicated recreation areas and japanese bikes are generally better for that because of their longer maintenance intervals

And those of us that are offroad only do it a lot because it's normally right next to/on our property, and again, KTM maintenance intervals are prohibitive and unless you live next to a dealer so its getting parts.

>>17728043
Shit waifu/10

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€800 for the side panniers
€120 for it's liners
€200 for the lid (!)
€400 for the top box
€140 for the top box lid
€100 for the top box liner
€70 for the top box back support

That's €1830 / $2.2k) for Triumph ™ plastic boxes


I blame Ducati for starting all this accessory gauging boomer rape.

>>17728017
>(ie: not yurop)

That one hit home.

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>>17728040
Some people listen to too many memes and think things that happen to all dirt bikes are exclusive to KTMs.
Like the snapping in half meme, that comes from people undershooting 60ft triples normally and a KTM will snap the triple clamps when this happens, a japanese bike normally snaps its frame in half below the fuel tank in the same situation so it really is just a meme.

>>17728054
>tfw stuff like this >>17728017 is never going to make a comeback

>>17728040
KTM sells a lot of race bikes and race bikes aren't reliable.

Doesn't mean they're bad, they're faster/lighter but require more maintenance.

>>17728061
Imagine the disgusted look of the paramedic that pries that from your head

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>>17728061
>mfw i ride past this guy

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>>17728062
It's a sad face.

Currently I just ratchet one of these to the back. Not great but better than nothing.

>>17728061
2/10 would not wave at

>>17728050
I'll fucking Hemmer ur foken hed

>>17728071
I put /dbt/ stickers so there won`t be any survivors. I wont have to think about medical expenses.

>>17728095
My bike is equipped with a gravel drop. When I run into a rider with his shit waifu displayed into the open I pass him in a corner using the power of the 250 and send him flying off the mountain.

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>>17728017
>>17728062
I had a dr650 with basically exactly that, plus pannier racks and the wolfman soft bags. Undoubtedly a nice setup, you could also leave wolfmans off if you had to strap a tent or whatever to the rack.

It's okay-ish for very occasional touring but anything more than that, nah. You don't solve:
>load shift over rough roads
>load shift at high speeds
>ten billion straps
>not water proof
>doesn't protect your shit

>>17728054
This, however, is cancer. All you need is to invest in quality generic cases once, brand doesn't matter as long as it's good quality, then they can transfer across all your bikes in future. For example:
>hepco becker 50L top case $300ish
>hepco becker 35L side cases $500ish pair
>full racks for all of the above $250ish

So you have the initial outlay to buy the cases obviously, same as soft bags, but then your only expense if you change bikes is a couple hundred for the racks.

>>17728110
>load shift over rough roads
>load shift at high speeds
>ten billion straps
get better at strapping shit
>not water proof
waterproof backpack, garbage bag over anything else
>doesn't protect your shit
don't park near nignogs

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>>17728101
>>17728101
>he doesn`t have a small child in his top box
>or a small monkey in the painers
Nah lad, you can pass me on the mountain. IF I die I'll just come back wearing a mask next season anyway.

>>17728050
Okay. Greater distances is a fair point. Over here you are in a forest as soon as you leave the city. No one needs to haul anything anywhere.

Yet ktm also makes great dual sports like 690.

>>17728161
>690
>great dualsport
3 (three) BALANCE SHAFTS

>>17727935
just buy a mc19

didn't old sportbikes have huge under-tail storage compartments that could fit a six pack of beer, easy access to the carbs, electronics, and engine, and roomy ergonomics closer to today's sport tourers?

what happened?

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Is there a comfier feeling than browsing some small town's bike shop?
>>17728217
Bikes got better, faster and more varied
If you want a frunk get an NC, Mana or Across

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>>17728217

No more ram air and fiddling with carbs.

>>17728223
I'm so glad cutting 2lbs of weight off the tail and increasing rider tuck added an extra 5mph to my bike's top speed!

Do homologation rules forbid changing handlebars and rearsets for the track bikes or something?

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>>17728217
>>17728223
>>17728225
>>17728230
even nakeds and beyond have succumbed to this bullshit tbqh
>tiny tail completely useless
>valve cover rammed into the steering head
>still has plastic garnish along side of bike
>single sided swingarm needs its own snowflake stand for chain maint
>etc

gsx1000s is more of the same shit, except suzuki had the gall to class it a 'sport tourer'. m8 what poor pillion would sit on the back of that thing?

>>17728230
Yes

A huge example of this was pikes peak where now bikes who come from factory with clipons are banned

The fuck dou you need a 200hp superbike if you want to go grocery shopping?

>>17728250
At least the rear wheel is a swastika.

>>17728250
>Tail so useless the fender, blinkers, and plate light have to hang from a fucking stalk

>>17728251
Are you one of those cucks that owns 200 bikes so you never have more bike than you need for a particular journey?

>wew i sure i am glad i took the CT90 instead of the CBR1000RR. i may be just as uncomfortable and look equally gay but at least i used all of my engine's available power.

>>17728266
Nah i have one, a naked and ratchet straps for when i need to carry shit

holy fuck why is it so hard to find motorcycling friends my age

the only ones that enjoy it too cant afford a bike

and the half others tell me im a suicidal retard and organ donor

>tfw always ride alone

>>17728355
Motorcyclist friends are easy to find. When a man gets on his motorbike he ceases to become human, he comes something closer to an animal - and in the animal world body language is the only lingo that's understood.

When you see a group of bikers, get behind them and start riding with them.

At first they'll look you up and down a few times but once they see you come in peace you'll be soon accepted into the herd and there you go - motorcycle buddies.

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>>17727985
Could have fooled me

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>>17728418

>>17728418

>>17728418

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>>17728355
Why do you care about age, on this ride the youngest was 22 oldest 72 ( and he's faster than you, I'd almost put my life on it ).