>there's people who would unironically spend $60k on

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>>17718738
>buying a $60k car is now considered noveau riche

stop being a poorfagggot and worrying what other people do with their money

>>17718749
No, faggot, buying a fucking $60k rebadged VW over an all American icon is considered nouveau riche.

>>17718749
I said buying not leasing

>>17718738
>a landbarge from the 60s is better than a new sedan

enjoy your death from a fender bender

>>17718738
Has it been restomodded with modern brakes, suspension and HVAC? If not, do not want.

>>17718763
>HVAC
T. Pansy

>>17718763
This

enjoy your pitman arm or drag link or whatever prehistoric shit you have

>>17718755
I dont like Volkswagen Audi Group either

but why are you obsessed with what people do with their own money.

You probably don't have a car, that must be it. Thats why you made this thread

>>17718757
Are you illiterate

>>17718767
t. doesn't live in Arizona

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>>17718763
Seems like it's not. https://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/d/1970-dodge-challenger-t/6201303760.html
I wouldn't want it if it was modded, but the fact that the engine isn't the original one bothers me a bit still.
>>17718759
>muh safety
lmao fucking numale
>>17718767
this
>>17718755
also this
any Audi that isn't the R8 is badge-whore bait, hence made for the nouveau riche

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>ugly
>slow
>uncomfortable
>awful to drive
>horrible economy

I mean an Audi A4 is better in every possible way

>>17718771
He's not me, I'm the one you called illiterate. But I agree with him nevertheless. And I'm not obsessed, just appalled. The lack of taste people have nowadays is utterly heartbreaking.

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>>17718783
actually it would be the perfect car if it was white
but you wouldn't understand, it's a freedom thing

hold the fuck up, are you telling me that the Toyota Supra is now at the same fucking price point as god damn old boomer muscle cars?

JESUS FUCK, why the fuck would you be a Poopra fanboy anymore?

>>17718786
most people always saw cars as something to get you from A to B destinations. nothing else. Most people aren't car enthusiasts.

You are just a pretentious fuck thinking you are better because you want to drive an older car that you can't even afford yourself.

>>17718793
Im an American

I know freedom

its how I know American cars from back then are garbage

especially when its an old ugly 383 pos that costs the same as a RS3

>>17718738
>t. boomer

>>17718738

>winga dinga dinga dinga

>>17718738
>$60k
more like s4
I generally prefer faster cars, and as such would chose the $50k audi with $10k in mods

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>>17718794
That one is probably cheaper because of the non-original engine, but I agree with you
>>17718801
It's not about it being older.
It's about it being raw and iconic while the other is bland and generic. It's about it being a work of art while the other is a cuckbox.
And you're right about me being unable to afford one... for now.
>>17718805
How is it ugly? You have no taste.
>RS3
lmfao enjoy your audisteer further worsened by it being a Haldex.
And by the way, it's sad that an American doesn't understand the value of freedom.
>>17718813
I'm 25
>>17718839
A fully loaded A4 is 60k

>>17718843
>A fully loaded A4 is 60k
and has a ton of features that challenger doesn't. compare the equivalent a4 its $39,000

>>17718843
the freedom to buy a better car is quite well understood by me

just because its an overrated shitbox doesnt mean its a good looking car

especially not with those awful walmart tier wheels

>>17718854
you live in post-freedom America
you aren't free to buy any car you want, regulations went beyond reasonable after 1973
>>17718853
>(((features)))
Yeah, like a 2.0 4-banger, kek

>>17718863
cars are better now
theres more market freedom now as well

2.0 4 banger is still faster than the Challenger

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>>17718870
>cars are better now
>theres more market freedom now as well
lmao

>>17718879
your opinion doesnt outweigh objective facts

>>17718843

If you had the chance to daily the Challenger vs the A4, and you had an actual job and social life you spent a lot of time in the car getting to, you'd choose the A4. But you're a poor manchild who thinks image outweighs practicality.

Iconic doesn't count for shit when the car handles like ass, gets single digit MPG, breaks down, and isn't very comfortable. All the shit no one talks about these days was very real in the '60s-70s--cars not starting below freezing, flooding, gas leaks, brake failures, etc.

I have a newer muscle car and I'd trade it in a second for a BMW that's just as fast and a hell of a lot better built.

>>17718738
why would I want an old shitpile that gets BTFU by a modern minivan?

>>17718895
>>17718879
>>17718863
reminder you can get an s4 for the price of that challenger

>>17718898
RS3 starts at $54,500 too

>>17718895
>muh image
>muh practicality
lel, tell me what the Challenger can't do that the A4 can
most of what you said are dumb memes, and it probably breaks down less than the rebadged VW. Plus image is what an Audi buyer is after, because they would buy a VW Passat if not for that. The 383 gets 12 miles per gallon, a non-issue in America. It's not about "image", it's about enjoyment.

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>>17718915
go fast, either in a straight line or around a corner

>>17718905
yummy. 335 ft-lbs of torque from 2500rpm stock, over 400 with a rechip

>>17718898
>>17718905
I'd rather get a Boxster.
Plus those are base models, weren't "features" your argument lads?
>>17718925
>201 km/h isn't going fast
lol

>>17718935
a base model econobox today has more features than a 70s car let alone a premium sedan

>>17718935
>Plus those are base models, weren't "features" your argument lads

Features were >>17718843's arugment
>A fully loaded A4 is 60k
I know reading is hard sometimes

pity that challenger is limited to 201km/h

>>17718738

Good Ol Merican Muscle
>No Airbags
>No ABS
>Carburated
>No Luxury Features
>No AC
>Boomer Magnet

Das A4
>Practical for Modern Age

A4 is $30k new you cuck, an S4 is about 50k.
That being said I'd never buy another Audi, Cause Audi is a shit car to own if you're poverty tier.

My first car was a 1968 Mercedes 280SE, I loved that car, and it was good to me. But man So Cal summers were brutal in that thing. Fucking brakes locked up on me every week, Steering was rough on it top. Once I got more modern cars I havnt looked back. It's a good Sunday car to own, but I wouldn't advise daily driving a classic.

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>>17718925
That doesn't match the torque on the 383
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/mopp-0209-383-engine-restore/
>>17718946
(((premium sedan)))

>>17718738
>muh chrome wheel boomer bucket

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>there's people who would unironically spend $55k on a fucking Challenger than $55k on this

>>17718953
Nah, it wasn't my argument. I used the fully loaded A4 as a reference, to show that a generic Audi midsize FWD-based design can be more expensive than a car that is a historic icon to this day.

>>17718958
>base audis
lol
>>17718969
can't argue with that logic, now we're talking
I'd buy both if I could tbqh. Screw VAG though.

>>17718959
thats gross ratings

still slower than the Audi too

and yeah its a premium car a muffler doesnt mean much

and youre defending a car known for its shoddy build quality on top of it

>>17718959
>blueprinted block
>2017 pistons, rings, rods, crank, cam
>394 ft-lbs

so a complete rebuilt and it cant even match what the Audi gets with just a chip?

>>17718982
>a literal fucking VW
>""""""""""""""""premium""""""""""""""""

>>17718982
>and yeah its a premium car a muffler doesnt mean much
on the contrary, because it's a premium car that kind of corner cutting becomes unacceptable

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>>17718991
yeh

>>17718915

You're either a child, an idiot, or a troll. Probably all three considering this is 4chan.

>>17718971
can be, if you want a list of features that would jack the price of that charger up over $100k

>>17719005
welcome to companies where everyone cheaps out

>>17719007
>audis are chirons
inb4 underageb&

>>17718915
Jesus christ, have you owned a car from the '70s? Those things are tin cans. If any company sold a new car like they'd be laughed into bankruptcy.

>>17718738
>frameless doors

absolutely disgusting

>>17719018
If you'd pick a fully loaded A4 over that Challenger you're still a cuck

>>17719026
hey why not

its a VAG product

Audi is a VW is a Bugatti is a Porsche is a Skoda

apparently how it works

>>17719045
>what are platforms
lel
Audi apologists everyone

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>>17719042
Color me a cuck then.

But if I was going to buy a 60k Audi, it'd be the ($50k) rs3 with a chip >>17718925

>>17719060
big whoop

people spend millions of dollars on economy cars labeled as Hemi Cudas

same platform same car

Audi still a better car

>>17719071
>54k for a rebadged Golf
you can be damn sure I'll call you a cuck
>>17719084
>E-body Barracuda
>economy car
b8

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>>17719115
forgot pic
>>17719084
oh and stay cucked

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man this guy is lol

>>17719115
the early ones are just Valiants and people still pay 6 digits for them

people are crazy to pay that much for a rebadged shitbox

even the Ebody could be had with a slant 6

its just a garbage shitbox

>>17718958
>No Airbags
>No ABS
the car predates those
>Carburated
>implying there's anything wrong with that
cuck
>No Luxury Features
Leather everywhere, real wood as opposed to Audi's fake wood, a fire breathing V8 among other things would disagree with that
>No AC
sissy
>Boomer Magnet
boomer guys are cool, it's the boomer women who are bitter cunts. Boomer males follow their lead whenever their wives are present though, pretty sad.
>Practical for Modern Age
Nice buzzwords

>>17719143
>even the Ebody could be had with a slant 6
better than a diesel 4 banger
BTW no one will ever pay 6 digits for a rebadged VW Golf in our lifetime

>>17719115
where can I find an AWD golf that makes 335 ft-lbs of torque at 2500rpm? that sounds badass

>>17719172
Golf R with a couple of simple mods

>>17719179
this

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>>17719179
It's so similar to the Audi one it isn't even funny, kek
Audifags on suicide watch

>>17719164
people have paid 6 figures for literal VWs

Audi is still a better car
and that diesel is better than a slant 6

>>17719191
because a Golf R is LITERALLY an S3 with a lower price tag

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>>17719198
>people have paid 6 figures for literal VWs
yeah, ICONIC, HISTORIC VWs
>Audi is still a better car
lmao
>and that diesel is better than a slant 6
it's not. Enjoy your "luxurious" tractor sounds and imbalance.

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>>17719199
Is being an Audifag the height of cuckoldry?
I'd rather be a BMWfag than an Audifag and I hate nu-BMW

>>17719214
old cars are shit

>Enjoy your "luxurious" tractor sounds and imbalance.


better than the "barely running" tractor sounds and imbalance of an american muscle ar engine

>>17719199
S3 and Golf R have the same price tag in their home market (42k€)

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>>17719239
>being this ignorant

>>17719254
That really cements the idea that the S3 is a Golf with rings on the front

>>17719179
>>17719115
>golf and golf R are same car
yeah ok

>>17719256
ignorant of what

>>17719268
>Golf and Golf aren't the same car
The fuck are you smoking and where can I get some?

>>17719268
>trim levels are different models somehow
lol
next you'll tell me a Challenger Hellcat isn't a Challenger
>>17719269
of how balance works, dummy
Straight 6 engines are inherently balanced, that's why it was always a popular lineup for luxury cars.

>>17719261
yeah but who cares about the s3?
it's about the >>17718905
>RS3

>>17719277
>newsflash: VAG fangirls are uneducated

>>17719288
that's just a S3 with a few simple mods from the factory

>>17719277
>talking about V8s and L4s
>brings up L6s

slant sixes arent the same
they arent balanced at all very rough running engines

slant six engines guzzle gas shake and make no power to go with it

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>>17719277
>>17719272
ITT: people want to pay $60k for a 145 horsepower baracuda

>>17719299
You were the one who brought up slant-6, punk. See >>17719198.
And the balance of an inline-6 is inherent to its design.

>>17719312
nice strawman

>>17719337
>54k for a rebadged Golf
>$60k for a base model baracuda
I dont think you know what strawman means

>>17719314
and slant 6s are still rough running sacks of shit

and yeah but when it comes to sound I was referring to V8 since I said muscle car

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>>17719364
but it is a rebadged Golf, and at least I don't want to buy a Barracuda for $60k when I can have a Challenger R/T for $55k
You made up the notion that I wanted a 'Cuda for $60k, and I'm here to dispel it for once and for all.

>>17719365
>and slant 6s are still rough running sacks of shit
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHCRXJ6b4fM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXo2KY43JQo

>>17719394
>rs3 is a rebadged 210hp FWD car
in the same sense that the challenger is a rebadged 145hp baracuda

>>17719394
How is an RS3 a rebadged Golf when the I5 engine isn’t even available for the Golf

>>17719423
now go drive one and experience how awful they are instead of watching videos of them with 0 load

>>17719431
It is, without a turbo, and only in America.

>>17718738
I would rather spend 60k on an audi than on that, 60k can get you a pretty nice audi

>>17718738
Outside of collectibility, the Challenger is an inferior car all around considering the S4 you could get for about 60K. Besides, unless that one is with the coveted 440 magnum or 426 Hemi, you get a big, carburetored engine that can barely produce around 300 hp.

>>17718738
>PUSHRODS

>>17719425
>the Golf R is AWD

>>17719431
>the I5 engine isn’t even available for the Golf
wrong lol

>>17719589
>rebaged golf
golf is FWD

>>17719516
>implying peak HP is relevant
>implying it makes sense to buy a base S4
0-60 is very similar between the top A4 and the 383 MagnumT

>>17719634
Nope, the Golf is AWD in its R version

>>17719634
So is the A4

>all these people saying audi is a golf

lol what? You people are tards. Apparently every audi is a golf now?

i like my v8 awd golf

>>17719641
indeed, that would be the "Golf R"

>>17719635
>1970 Cuda 383

0-60 mph = 6.9
1/4 mile = 15.1 @ 93 mph
Top speed = 120 mph


>2017 Audi A4

0-60 MPH 5.4 sec
QUARTER MILE 14.0 sec @ 99.1 mph
Top Speed = 155 mph

its slower than a 250hp Audi sedan

>>17719650
>strawman
>>17719654
>autism
It's still a Golf. Stop pretending it's a completely different car, it's not.

>>17719664
>facts are strawman

kk, stay mad golf kid

Is an R8 a golf too?

>>17719663
>fake 0-60 times
Audi says it's 5.7 seconds
And the thread isn't about the Cuda, it's about the Challenger R/T 383, 6.2s. For the Cuda since you mentioned it's 6.4s.

>>17719690
We never said every Audi is a rebadged Golf, only the A3/S3/RS3. That's the strawman. Stay mad, Audicuck.
Also it's funny that they managed to give a mid-engine Lamborghini their signature Audisteer with the R8.

>>17719663
hell the Audi is faster than most Challengers

>1970 Dodge Challenger R/T (CD)
426ci/425hp, 3spd auto, 3.23, 0-60 - 5.8, 1/4 mile - 14. 10 @ 103.20mph

why yes its faster than a Hemi

>>17719698
umm no

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/audi/a4/2017/2017-audi-a4-20t-quattro-first-test-review/

manufacturer times dont mean much

Cuda is the same car as the Challenger basically

you cant trust old magazines tho they liked to tune up the cars for tests

>>17719713
>you cant trust old magazines tho they liked to tune up the cars for tests
lol, modern magazines are much worse
that Audi is likely chipped and whatnot

>>17719707
>I'm mad I can't afford an Audi

>>17719664
Just like the Challenger R/T is a 145hp baracuda

>>17719698
>same platform as cuda
if the logic in this thread is to be believed, they are the same car

having a better engine, drivetrain, and interior is just a "rebadge"

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>>17719713
>a brand new Audi is 0.4 seconds faster than a 47 year old car
can't make this shit up

>>17719719
even if you want to go buy manufacturer its still faster

and no back then muscle car companies were infamous for making special tunes or equipping parts that werent on factory cars to use for testing

>>17719724
a practical 250 hp sedan is faster than a "425hp" performance car thats only use is going in a straight line

muscle cars are garbage

keep in mind Im not the one who brought performance up first

lol musclecar fags are so insecure with their shit taste

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>>17719723
It's basically a rebadged Cuda, yes. But you're pretending that a rebadge+a few simple mods from the factory is just a rebadge. The car itself is the same, the power plant is more different.
>>17719726
sure thing lmfao
>trusting (((fauve)))
>>17719733
you're the one oozing insecurity ITT friendo
wanna compare any Audi to the SRT Demon?

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>>17719740
dang a simple Audi family sedan
not even anything fancy btfos the musclefag so bad he has to bring up purpose built drag cars

a Demon is a tenth faster than a 30 year old Audi that can do more than go straight lmao

so thats rather embarrasing for Dodge

>>17719769
>not even stock
lmfao
the best R8 can't touch the Demon

>>17719776
it left the factory like that so yeah its stock

all you have to do is throw in a corner and the Demon is done

>>17719740
>a few simple mods
kek

a "golf with a few simple mods" being an rs3 is the same as the civic with a few simple mods

in otherwords, faster than the muscle car

except the rs3 is nicer too

>>17719783
>the factory
you mean the team's workshop
the Quattro sold to people wasn't nearly as aggressively tuned

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>>17719790
>engine ahead of the front axle
>nicer

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>casually posting a picture of me driving my car out of a cars and coffee in this thread for no reason

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>>17719803
post the one where you understeer into the crowd

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>le old ameritrash car is le good meme

kys OP

>>17718738

>$55K death trap

No thanks

I rather buy $100K rebadged toyota

>>17719806
>le ebin maymay
you have to go back
I picked the Challenger for a single reason: it's a extremely desirable car, a classic and you can get one for the same money that buys you a brand new fully loaded A4. To me that's a no-brainer. Just like the choice between an A8 and a Panamera for around 85k. On top of that, the value of the classic will only go up, the Audi will depreciate.

>>17719805
i tried to find it but all that came up were american muscle cars spinning out into telephone poles, concrete abutments, throngs of onlookers, parked cars, and various other stationary objects not located on a public roadway.

>>17719821
lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8plO4AeKNU

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>>17719816
sperg more

>>17719816
>for the same money that buys you a brand new fully loaded A4

which you only picked because its not comparable

>>17719830
fuck off alphonse

>>17719840
I am not alphonse

sperg more and stay BTFO

>>17719832
exactly, it's only comparable in price
it literally makes no sense to get a generic, boring Audi over a classic Challenger unless you want to impress normalfags who drool over a badge

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>>17719842
>le soviet and alphonse aren't the same guy meme
the dogfucker exposed you, piece of shit

>>17719844
the comparable audi is the rs3. even the base model a4 has features the challenger doesn't, selecting a fully loaded a4 just shows you had to artificially jack up the price to compare it to the challenger

>>17719844
>tfw ywn have a white Challenger R/T to impress Zöe Bell
hold me /o/
I will never know the taste of her pusy

>>17719857
Buying an Audi with no options is the height of nouveauricheism

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>>17719849
>the dogfucker exposed you
nope, I am not american, He knows because he has seen me shitpost in /sp/ and /int/

he refuses to acknowledge such thing because he is obsesed with his delusionals, after all he is a fucking furfaggot

>>17719864
I'll take my faster, more comfortable nouveauriche RS3 then

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>>17719859
>Zoë Bell

>>17719872
at least you admit it
now back to the original question, why do we allow you to breathe?

>>17719890
mainly because I prefer faster, more comfortable cars

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>>17718915
>lel, tell me what the Challenger can't do that the A4 can
I can survive a 35 mph crash in an A4 lol.

You are a fucking retard kid, I hope you never pass your driving test.

>>17719880
>t. literal nigger

>>17719828
thats not a cars and coffee, thats a race track. and also a gigantic SUV, so im not quite sure what point you think you were making by posting that.

if you would like, i can spend 5, maybe 10 minutes amassing a list of youtube video links so long it would exceed the character limit of a 4chan post comprosed solely of RWD american muscle cars crashing into everything within sight while traveling under 10 mph in the process of leaving a car show.

let me know if youd be interested in something like that and ill get started.

>>17719900
well, you worry about that. I'll worry about not crashing.

>>17719906
The SUV was driven by a professional test driver
try again

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>>17719914
lol try again? okay, so if my car wasnt actually a car, but was in fact a gigantic SUV, and this gigantic SUV was going too fast around a tight turn on a race track, i would crash. my SUV. which i dont have.

meanwhile actual bone stock mustangs, camaros, challengers, corvettes, etc are famous for constantly smashing into everything around them while driving literally under 10 mph on a public road.

how was that?

oh btw heres a funny picture.

So in short:
1- A car that looks good and attracts all the dicks to your yard while having no other redeeming qualities.
2- A car that looks fine, doesn't attract unwanted attention, drives better and is more comfortable.

55k...?

for that money i could get a good used E60 M5, if we are talking about german sedans

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>>17720355
now with a picture. Also, V10 godness

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>>17718738

nuff said

>>17720364
why is it that every one of those i see, the asshole who owns it straight-piped it and it sounds like absolute garbage?

>>17720410
asshole drivers? I believe that is a US thing, but if everyone says it, i guess its true there, so sure

But i would really not say that engine sounds bad, especially approaching the redline

>>17718738
More leftover for you, mate. Stop being a salty poorfag and buy yourself a rusted-out boomer shitheap to restore.

>>17720371
>compares relatively new lambo to 70s muscle car
Do you breath through your mouth?

>>17720555
it could have been a renault hatchback,a1992 volvo wagon, a mercedes van, an intercity train or literally anything with wheels and it wuld have turned better than a (classic) american muscle car

>>17720581
>rattles off multiple cars that are still newer than the musclecar
Dude, tell your guardian that your helmet's coming lose.
American muscle was build to go fast in a straight line because our country is bigger than your continent. We don't have to worry about streets 6 feet wide.

>>17720598
>We don't have to worry about streets 6 feet wide

so, you intentionally make bad handling cars?

okay, and to redo the list so even you understand:

it could have been a BMC Mini, a Saab 96, a Citroen DS a steam locomotive or anything with wheels and it would have handles better than a classic muscle car

>>17719947
>T/A
lol
those can be had for much less than 55k
try again
https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/1970-challenger-apack-panther/6248760495.html

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>>17720355
>>17720364
well, I can't blame you for that anon. There's a reason I slammed those who buy a brand new A4 in the OP. You have good taste anon, I could even say the taste of a supreme gentleman :^).

>>17720452
>stop being a poorfag
I can't for now ;_;

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>>17720670
CASE IN POINT

>>17720681
i do want to point out audi and bmw are different things

>>17720649
what are you even arguing about any more. do you even know?

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>>17720686
I never implied otherwise, I'm a BMW enthusiast and took the opportunity to repost the A8 pic

>>17720700
You brought up the T/A 0-60s as if anyone was talking about the T/A
sperg more

>>17718738
>lolpushrods

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>>17720706
im not sperging you bozo. the new a4 runs the 1/4 in 13.8. that's as fast as the fastest muscle car ever made, the 1970 buick gs stage 1. every single dodge challenger from the muscle car era was slower than a new a4 with a dinky little 2l 4 cylinder engine.

Rich successful businessman buying a fast and luxurious commuter
Or Billy Bob spending the entirety of his disability payout from his fucked back on some nostalgia mobile

Mhmm

Noveau rich or dumb shit redneck that will forever be poor
Idk

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>>17720748
>tell him to sperg more
>he spergs more
the absolute madman!

>>17720713
lol imagine the pushy you can get in a audi buble those women jsut throw themselves on accountants cars

>>17719849
Soviet is an og shit poster that was around for years as non
Alphonso started posting as Alphonso and was never around before that
Soviet and Alphonso used to fight each other
Now they are partners in crime

Get your board history right dude

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>>17720713
shoo shoo unbeliever
push rods=push gods

>>17720778
>implying Alphonse isn't one of S/o/viet's characters/online personas

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>>17720785
sperg more

>>17720787
no

>>17720881
>540 kg

>sperg more
nice projection and deflection

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>>17720907
>it's YOUR fault the viper is pigfat!

lol

>>17720918
>can't even seat two
lmao

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>>17720928
lol, sperg more pushrod cuck

>>17720932
*discharges after a lap*

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>>17720938
time attack only requires one lap

pushrods are inferior, sperg more

>>17720941
except in reliability, packaging,etc

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>>17720932
reminder that 0-60 is the only relevant day to day metric

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>>17720947
>reliability
lol nope

>packaging
lol nope

>etc
lol nope

there simply is no reason to ever use pushrod engines, 2 valves offer inferior headflow

sperg more pushrodcuck

>>17718793
what's this from?

>>17720965
see >>17720785
literally the only argument you cucks have is
>muh revs

>>17720965
except it's true, you're comparing a fucking bike motor to a car engine you dumbass

>>17720971
Vanishing Point (1971)
A classic of American cinema and a must watch. I liked it way more than Two lane blacktop.

>>17720965
also pushrods are more, reliable they don't use revs to make power first of all which puts alot less stress on an engine than a dohc rev happy rice rocket that blows itself apart or snaps a timing belt and eats itself

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>>17719733
>technology has advanced in the past 50 years

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>>17720964
drag racing goes on >>>/lgbt/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_queen
> drag is very much associated with gay men and gay culture

>>17720972
see
>>17720881
>>17720918
>>17720932

>>17720974
>with OHC a bike engine can compete with a car engine
thanks for helping me prove OHC is superior

>>17720981
>psuhrods are more reliable
nope
sperg more pushrodcuck

>>17720977
thanks,
i'm gonna watch it tonight

>>17720991
>nope
>an argument
lol kys, the only reason the bike motor is smaller is because it has to be because it's a fucking bike motor, we weren't comparing power but thanks for moving the goalposts because you're losing

>>17721000
>only reason a bike motor is smaller is because of good engineering

yes, pretty much, OHV bikes engines are still not smaller than OHC bike engines so sperg more

>you're losing
nope, pushrods are losing, name a single motorsport where pushrods are superior that hasn't banned the use of OHC, go ahead

>>17721006
ok, ok let's go real world then not professional motor sports just mundane car guy shit, this might be hard because i'm assuming you've never fucked with or street raced a car in your life, but if dohc was so superior why does my friends 04 wrx routinely get it's ass kicked by my other friends stock 98 trans am

>>17721006
>name a single motorsport where pushrods are superior that hasn't banned the use of OHC
Nürburgring

>>17720998
get some popcorn and enjoy
are you going to watch it in company? Asking because there's a naked chick roaming around in one part

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>>17721020
>let's go to the real world
>"pls pls stop proving pushrods are inferior!!"
GM and dodge are the only relevant manufacturers that still use pushrods, out of hundreds of manufacturers, and only use it on two engine blocks

if pushrods are superior why isn't every single GM car powered by them

>dohc was so superior why does my friends 04 wrx routinely get it's ass kicked by my other friends stock 98 trans am
lol, this dumb sperg belives this is an argument

post an LS engine faster than this

>>17721040
Nurburgring isn't a sport, it is a circuit you dumb sperg

do you mean nurburgring 24H? because pushrods haven't won there in years

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>>17721048
I mean Nürburging lap times, dummy

>>17721048
drag racing goes on >>>/lgbt/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drag_queen
> drag is very much associated with gay men and gay culture

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>>17721052
>Nürburging lap times
>he belives the viper is the fastest car to lap the nurbrugring

top kek

>>17721062
It's the fastest combustion production car to lap Nürburgring
sperg more, you can't dodge the Dodge

>>17721061
>>17721061
>>>/lgbt/8725133
post in that thread an LS engine faster than that

>>17721071
I'm sorry, I'm not a faggot

>>17721048
>fomoco slut
alphonse it that you
why was every mustang slower than the competing camaro then and why is it still the same way

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>>17721069
>It's the fastest combustion production car to lap Nürburgring

TOP KEK! it can't even lap it in under 7 minutes

>>17721071
sorry you have to be modded to compete faggot

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>>17721074
>can't post an LS engine faster than that modular

lol, pushrod cuck BTFO

>>17721088
see >>17721089

>>17721081
what happened to that snake

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>>17721089
>LS engine
why would I?
Chevy is for cucks
>lol, pushrod cuck BTFO
because I'm not a faggot?
There's a reason they use Chrysler big block engines in Top Fuel

>>17718843
While I would totally rather have a classic, I wouldn't want to drive it in the rain or snow, or any day where it looks like it might do those, so I also need a boring car that I'm willing to put against the elements. I now have 30k per car.

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>>17721089
lol sorry you have to turn your shitstang into a race car to compete, sperg more

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>>17719071
>tablet on the dash

>>17721099
it got BTFO by OHC

>>17721100
>why would I
then post a modern hemi faster than that modular

>There's a reason they use Chrysler big block engines in Top Fuel
because they banned the use of OHC, remember I specifically said here >>17721006
>that hasn't banned the use of OHC
OHV literally couldn't compete and begged the NHRA to ban OHC


>>17721103
>admits pushrods can't compete
BTFO

>>17721101
A literal non-issue if you give it the same protective paint modern cars have. The sheet metal was even much better and thicker in older cars. There's a reason modern cars rot to dust and old cars just get some rust you can sand away.

>>17721099
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophionyssus_natricis

>>17721112
>admits he has to bring a literal drag car to beat technology from the 60s
ford fanbois are this dumb

>>17721112
The McGee brothers tried OHC some years ago, it couldn't really compete. Prohibitive costs and takes too long to service.

>>17721125
nice projection and delusion

>>17721128
http://mcgeecams.com/history.html

>In 1995 "Aussie" Dave Grubnic climbed as high as #2 in the IHRA Top Fuel points race behind the wheel of the McGee Quad Cam Dragster.
seems like they could compete, major teams could easily get first place with it

>>17721099
Ticks

>>17721146
not a projection at all you literally are comparing a racecar to street cars you faggot

>>17721152
>pls pls belive my bullshit stories!!

nice delusion and projection, if LS engines are so fast, post one that is faster than the fastest modulars

http://www.thedrive.com/news/8661/watch-the-2500-hp-m2k-motorsports-ford-gt-hit-294-mph-at-the-texas-mile

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>>17721061
LeMans is the race series with guys constantly coming out of the closet.

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>>17721146
The second is the first of the losers

>>17721161
If modulars are so amazing why can't they keep up with 50 year old big blocks?

>>17721161
You're the one who keeps bringing up GM shit
Are you a closeted GM fangirl?
>>17721174
this

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Everyday I regret my supercharged s4 with awd especially in the winter...

>>17721161
explain why no one builds modulars outside of pro racers and how shit the modular is stock for boost

>>17721182
makes sense, I wouldn't want audisteer on a dry road, let alone on snow

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>>17721163
so you admit OHC can compete in top fuel then???
post a pushrod engine getting second place in formula 1

>>17721174
except quad cam v8's can compete with big blocks see >>17721146

>>17721177
so you admit LS engines are inferior then???

>>17721183
>ad populum
not an argument

>>17721192
Pushrods are banned in formula one. Anything but a cuck hybrid OHC V6 is banned.

>>17721191
>implying audi awd isn't superior to rwd

>>17721196
so you accept pushrods are inferior then??
OHC is banned yet that didn't stop people from using it for Top Fuel just to prove the convept

>>17721192
>avoiding why the modular is so shit at boost

>>17721192
of course LS engines are inferior, they're GM crap

>Crappy
>Hot-Running
>Engines
>Very
>Rusted
>Out
>Lose
>Every
>Time

>>17721209
>can drag race built ohc
>pushrods banned from lemans
totally the same thing you can't use an argue against pushrods never winning lemans if they're fucking banned you dumbass

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>>17721212
>modular
>shit at boost
are you fucking stupid??? literally no modern GM or chrysler engine can make 3000 hp with the stock block and crank

>>17721213
GM BTFO

the modern hemi is equally trash btw

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>>17721212
Not to mention it needs to rev to 10 000 rpm and needs a rebuild after every race and can't be driven on the streets like a 6 second big block can.

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>>17721213
>Be ford in the modern era
>can't outstrip a carbed, NA, PUSHROD engine

gg

Fix
Ot
Rgain
Dony

>>17721213
>crappy
900hp stock internals under boost
>hot-running
performance variants made of aluminum to avoid that
>rusted
compared to what i see fords and jap crap way more rusted regularly you just hate gm because you're an edgelord who had to be different than everyone and get their attention

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>>17721224
no one is stopping some pushrodcuck from building his own pushrod powered LMP1 to prove the concept

pushrods simply can't compete

>>17721226
>6 seconds
slower than the modular lol

>>17721225
>3000hp on stock block and crank
suuurreeee buddy, atleast now we know you don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about

>>17721240
>>17721242
lol, triggered GM fangirls

>>17721244
ummmm what is extremely prohibitive costs and you can't just enter lemans either

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>>17721242
>>17721240
GM fan cuck detected

>can't outstrip a carbed, NA, PUSHROD engine
wrong, post a 5 second LSX engine >>17721048

>900hp stock internals under boost
literally nothing lol

>performance variants made of aluminum to avoid that
can't stand boost

>compared to what i see fords and jap crap way more rusted regularly you just hate gm because you're an edgelord who had to be different than everyone and get their attention
sperg more, Ford is superior in every single way

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>it's an Audi's marketing team derails the thread into pushrods shitposting to deflect criticism episode

>>17721244
>Pushing horsepower levels measured in thousands, the team quickly found the weak link in the factory Coyote block. “Once we started pushing toward 2,000hp, we started having problems,” Luton confessed as he described MMR’s path to the Gen X engine series. “We started to crack the blocks in the valley, between the cylinders, and essentially the block was just crumbling away.”

Fordgirls will defend this.

>>17721263
they aren't talking lsx you fucking mong, they mean pushrod in general

>>17721268
No shit, they even defend their truck beds getting pierced by empty toolboxes falling on them

>>17721263
>hehehehe i called him a fan cuck because i posted unfounded garbage he's really btfo r-right guys

>muh drag week
>muh top fuel
Literally the only arguments ohv cucks have
This says enough... ohv is complete dog shit

>>17721271
>implying Alphonse can hold a coherent conversation
I have a theory that he's actually a chat bot. His posts are always repetitive.

>>17721281
>Top Fuel dragsters are the quickest accelerating racing vehicles in the world and the fastest sanctioned category of drag racers, with the fastest competitors reaching speeds of 335 miles per hour (539 km/h) and finishing the 1,000 foot (305 m) runs in 3.7 seconds.

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>>17721255
lurk more you retarded pushrod fangirl
https://accufabracing.com/accufab-mustang

>>17721260
so you admit pushrods can't compete then?

>>17721268
>coyote
no one here is talking about the coyote, we are talking about the 4.6 and 5.4 modulars

>>17721271
>they aren't talking LSX
of course they aren't since no LSX engine can run the quarter in less than 6 seconds

>>17721273
>too poor to afford more than 1 cam
>too poor to afford a bedliner
sperg more and stay BTFO

>>17721280
>unfounded garbage
nope, lurk more and sperg more

>>17721281
i assume you are a master track driver and tear up the toegayy with takumi and alphonse every day

>>17721281
OHV reigns supreme in motorsports that are relevant. You know motorsports that normal people can actually participate in. Have fun watching a bunch of cars with really bright headlights go around for 24 hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud8iqnTBsLU

>>17721293
>m-muh bedliner
So you admit that Ford's beds are shit that needs aftermarket mods to not break?

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>>17721289
OHC can compete in Top Fuel drag racing, OHV can't compete in LMP1, Formula 1, WRC, and others, why is this???

>>17721284
>Implying I am alphonse

>>17721293
>accufab
>anywhere near stock
it literally says they didn't use stock block and internals are you really that retarded holy shit

>>17721293
>https://accufabracing.com/accufab-mustang
No mention of stock crank. fuck off

>>17721306
When OHC "competed" (and got BTFO) in Top Fuel it wasn't against the rules.

>>17721306
>OHV can't compete in LMP1, Formula 1, WRC, and others

Because those pussy sports belong in /lgbtbbq/

>>17721293
I can't argue with you I am literally talking with a bench racer who cannot comprehend anything short of full blown race cars that he is incapable of driving

>>17721266
srs question. do you have a car of your own? why dont you spend your time having constructive discussions about your car? instead youre spending it wading around in a swamp of negativity by arguing about something that dont even affect you in any way. seriously, you could be doing anything with your time. the possibilities are endless, and you choose to spend it doing this. how can a car manufacturer make someone so angry that it literally consumes them?

>>17721306
you are it's painfully obvious and you think you're being clever but you just look autistic

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>>17718738
>$60k
>a4

RS3 starts at $54k

>4.3 seconds 0-60
>awd
>can turn
>4 doors
>cheaper

>>17721321
>why dont you spend your time having constructive discussions about your car?
>implying I don't
Shitting on Audi's embarrassing cash grabs isn't "consuming" me, I do it for fun. And those memeballs urubro made really come in handy.

>>17721327
>RS3 starts at $54k
>starts
lol, Audis with no options are even worse than regular Audis, they literally make you more of a poser.

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>>17721327
>he bought a base Audi

>>17721342
fucking hysterical

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>>17721305
>wanting a bare steel bed
enjoy your dented and rusted bed, dumb GM fangirl

>>17721301
>rock crawling
>a sport
pushrod fangirls belive this

>>17721307
>it literally says they didn't use stock block and internals are you really that retarded holy shit
are you fucking stupid or is this just normal for pushrod fangirls?

>>17721315
http://www.enginelabs.com/features/clearing-up-mod-motor-misconceptions-with-john-mihovetz/
>Up until a few years ago, the fastest Modular engine had a factory Ford forged crank, running a best of 6.05-seconds in the 1/4-mile. The final misconception that we address in this article is that factory cranks can’t support huge horsepower numbers.

Go ahead, post a stock LS production block using stock heads and stock crank running the quarter in 6.05

Stay BTFO and sperg more

>>17721317
see >>17721244

>>17721319
>can't compete
>better dismiss them
sperg more and stay BTFO

>>17721320
the fastest production cars are OHC, so are the fastest production bikes, are you retarded???

>>17721325
nope, stay obsessed

>>17721328
no, seriously. i guess i just dont understand what youre doing. like, i pretty much only talk about the kind of cars i have/want/enjoy and related concepts. turbos, racing, building engines, etc. what does it solve being so negative about things that dont affect you? does it fill some kind of void? i just dont get where the motivation lies. im curious.

>>17721301
that thing is badass, I think the MMX Racing creators were inspired by it because one of the vehicles looks awfully similar
>>17721357
>enjoy your dented and rusted bed, dumb GM fangirl
>damage control
>projecting his repressed GM fangirlism on me
sad

>>17721357
>the fastest production cars are OHC
wrong

>>17721380
I guess I hope Audi will listen if it gets called out enough that their customers realize they're getting ripped off

>>17721407
dont be silly, we both know you dont actually believe that.

>>17718738
>>>17721281
>OHV reigns supreme in motorsports that are relevant. You know motorsports that normal people can actually participate in. Have fun watching a bunch of cars with really bright headlights go around for 24 hours.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ud8iqnTBsLU

You mean like wtac? All ohc cars my man
And formula specs? Pretty sure they all use ohc engines also my man

>>17721319
Drag (DRAG) LITERALLY belongs on lgbt
Its cross dressing homo shit

>>17721403
Nope

>>17721425
wtac and all the formulas are cucked by a million regulations and safety bullshit. Relevant motorsports allow you to use any engine you want.

>>17721434
I'm sure most drag strips don't allow gays, Same with NASCAR. Here in the land of the free tiny cucked engines are /lgbtqqq/

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/retired-le-mans-driver-danny-9856375

>>17721391
>GM fangirl unironically belives steel beds dont rust

Lol

>>17721452
Except wtac doesnt regulate valvetrain types you inbreed merifat

>>17721423
I believe they won't but I hope they will. But the main thing is that their stunts outrage me. The only Audi I would ever buy is the R8. In every other segment Audi is objectively inferior to the others.
My choices in 4/5 seaters:
>A segment: Renault Twingo
>B segment: Smart Forfour
>C segment: BMW 1-Series
>D segment: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
>E segment: Chrysler 300C or Chevrolet SS
>F segment: Porsche Panamera
It makes literally no sense to buy any Audi that isn't the R8

>>17721485
I am autistic; the post

>>17721454
>ford (fix it again tony) fangirl doesn't know GM paints the beds from the factory
lol

>>17721470
They regulate everything else though which forces you to use shitty 4 bangers.

>>17721495
>ad hominem
Suggest a better alternative by Audi to any of those cars if Audi is so great. Or do you want me to show how inferior they are in the SUV department too?

>>17721485
>BMW 1-Series
that's almost as bad as Audi, it even has an autistic tablet glued on the dash too
it has RWD so it gets a pass though

>>17721501
>He belives paint doesnt chip when the bed is dented and gets old

Lol

Enjoy your rust GM cuck

>>17721502
No, You are stupid

>>17721513
I am autistic; the second post

>>17721534
>what is maintenance
people like you give america a bad name

>>17721540
>fallacies and damage control from Audi's marketing team; the second post

>>17721485
>Porsche Panamera
>not Maserati Quattroporte
you dun goof'd

>>17721552
>He is so autistic he belivesnaudi spends money marketing in 4chan

Top kek

>>17721545
>maintenance
>Having to replace your bed every year because you are too por for an aluminium one or a bedliner

Top kek

>>17721568
Fair enough, I just wanted to keep a semblance of not being a FCA fangirl. But I couldn't really say no to a Ferrari V8 under the hood.

>>17721581
paint maintenance dummy

>>17721587
>Having to do all of that because he cucked himself with a steel bed and no bedliner

Why are GM fangirls so utterly stupid???

>>17721581
>deflecting
Audi is objectively inferior in every segment of the market

>>17721595
>retouching a spot
>"having to do all that"
lmfao this lazy fuck

>>17721485
>1 series
>superior to the A3
in your dreams, bimmercuck

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>>17721601
Autism; the trilogy

>>17721611
>He has to touch up his paint everytime he uses his truck

GM fangirls are unironically this fucking stupid

>>17721647
at least paint can be easily repaired, unlike a torn sheet of aluminum
stay btfo and keep sperging

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>>17721651
>Steel doesnt gets physically damaged

Lmao, GM fangirls are as stupid as a rock

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>>17721655
not by a toolbox lmfao

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>>17721661
>Too poor to afford a bedliner

>>17721673
>too dumb to buy a truck with a bed that doesn't get pierced by a simple empty toolbox falling on it
enjoy your expensive repairs if someone as dumb as you crashes into your truck