Who Italian car here?

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>>17716208
I wish.

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>>17716208
who blown head gasket and broken window winder here ?

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I've been learning more and more about Italian cars lately and appreciate them, but probably will never own one. I genuinely feel bad for Maserati.

>who rust and breakdown here

>>17716396
>eternal city
>crappy Fords

>>17716383
Feel bad why? What happened?

>>17716528
I think he's referring to the fact that maserati is now owned by ferrari and ferrari keeps their cars intentionally underpowered

>who manufacturers that havent made any good cars after 90's here

>>17716592

>Ferrari keeps non-Ferrari cars intentionally underpowered.

Fixed that for you.

>>17717203
Yeah that's what I was implying

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>>17717203
>tfw enzo ferrari swore a vendetta against fiat

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i like to know that my car will start in the morning.

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>waiting for my Swiss 156 bro

>>17716208
I drive a tortellini

>>17717263
Who keyed it?

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>>17716396
This isn't a japscrap thread.

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>>17717268
Are you talking about the hood?
Was probably just bird poop or dirt

>>17717232
Then why would you buy this old shitheap?

>>17717283
160k miles, mint, drives like a dream, hasn't let me down in the last several years + dat 4.0 V8 and a manual swap.

>>17717299
Then what are you doing in this thread

>>17716383
At least they aren't kept alive to crank out shitboxes like lancia.

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Reposting the goodness from yesterday's thread, because mah dick.

I'm not the owner.

>>17717232
>BMW
>i like to know that my windows wont go up in the morning.
>i like to know that my power seats will be stuck in the morning.
>i like to know that my radio will reset and ask for the anti-theft code, despite the battery being brand new in the morning.

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>>17717324

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>>17717328

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>>17717330

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>>17717334

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>>17717337
Done.

Now we wait for heartbreaker to come here and tell us how shitty this car is.

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Friendly reminder that Montecarlo blue is the patrician choice

I actually want to upgrade my 159 to a giulia in a few years
I wanna get the 2.0 turbo with 280 horses

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>>17717334
what you could be driving for the same price

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>>17717572
or this

>>17717572
A Maserati granturismo for 50.000€?

>Audi with a body kit
>Italian

>>17717325
>Italian cars
>i like to know that my car will stop working anytime.
the things you've mentioned never happened to me famalam

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>>17716208
Check

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>>17717636
>Busso

HNNNGGG

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl19l_9VvBQ

+

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETSpaLqk-0U

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>Everybody's got a boner from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTef0xwMvhk

>>17717325
Cool memes. Everyone knows Italian cars are unreliable as fuck dude, they are beautiful and sound nice though

Nope, American human

>maserati is now owned by ferrari
Incorrect.

>>17717773
You never owned one. It's so obvious.

>>17717339
I love it but does it really not come with s clutch? Wtf boring

>>17717861
Only the 2.2 136/150/180 hp Diesel and the V6 Quadrifoglio

>>17717232
You really can't play this meme if you are driving a used BMW.

>>17717325
sounds like non critical failures

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>>17717263
Here I am. Nice to see you again, how are you?
Anything you're up to at the moment?

I just finished removing the whole interior of my 156 so I can start welding the floor rust. I also plan to stance it by about 20 mm.
It's deregistered at the moment, because this will be kind of a big project.

I got a Toyota just for using until I am finished. But I started missing my Alfa about 2 weeks into driving it. So I'm borrowing my fathers 159 at the moment. pic related

>>17717316
It's just not fair

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Does italian bike count?
Aprilia master race

So who on /o/ actually owns an Italian car?

>>17718881
very few

>>17718881
There are people with Abarth 500/595 and Longpostguy with a brand new 124 Abarth.

Other guys with Fiat Punto (mjet for example), other with Alfa Romeo GT/156/159/Giulia, a guy with a MiTo.

Indeed, there is some people.

>>17718881
guy with the 360

>>17718881
My mum has a Fiat Palio

>>17718940
>Longpostguy with a brand new 124 Abarth.
You mean that retard who was using /o/ as his blog? Fuck that guy

>>17719326
Mods, please?
Get this filth off my board

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>>17717636
>>17717736
the godmachine

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Is this the greatest Italian car ever made?

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>>17719762
Yes.

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>>17718223
Come on in, very pretty bike.
>>17719762
I'd have one if they sold it here desu.
>>17718881
Checking in.

>>17719748
I want my dick to be chromed

>>17720102
sexy

>>17718940
>MiTo
Barf

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>>17717265
>>17717278
>>17718056
This is THE sexiest front that was ever be made.

>>17718940
There's a portuguese guy with a Giulietta too. And some other anon, too.
There's the yellow punto anon, and at least 3 more anons with Puntos.

>>17716208
USA USA USA USA USA
>t.Ausfag

>>17721512
phwoar, great looking car

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>>17716208
You missed a couple rebadged fiat desu.

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Kind of.

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>>17723286
Both brands have been long dead desu

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>>17723286
The list is too long.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automobile_manufacturers_of_Italy

>>17719762
I quite like driving my mother her Panda, funny little car

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Mama Mia!
>Has a legit "Z" vin

>>17718056
hey man i'm good, how are you?
i still haven't had time for the green brake calipers and i'm busy as hell lately

good luck on the project!
i also realized that every single 156 i've seen the last few months was completely fucked up so i might want to buy a 156 in good condition and just let it sit somewhere just to save it..

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>>17723195
you're god damn right

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Who /lancia/ here?

>>17724067
Integrale or fwd?

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Bamp

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S
O
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N

P
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H
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>>17718881
I do
>>17724712

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>>17724712
>made a sticker out of this
>put it on your car
>???
>+10 hp
>girls will ask you the meaning of that exotic logo and will fuck you for you superior taste

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>>17724857

READY
SET
GO

>>17724880
>>17724857
Why would I put an Alfa Romeo sticker on my Fiat

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reporting in

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>>17724927
Ferrari does it.
What are you, a chicken?

>>17725599
>Put an Alfa sticker on a Fiat
Nah brah.

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Who's taken their Italian to the beach?

>>17725737
Which Alfa is this?

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>>17725745
1976 alfetta gt

>>17725751
Nice.
>Tfw I'll probably never drive an alfasud on the California coastline
Fug

>>17725763
One day

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>>17725588

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>>17718881
>So who on /o/ actually owns an Italian car?
I have a 4C and it's awesome

3rd wolder here. I want to thank italians for the ultimate kino fiat uno.

>>17726305
it looks like a comfy little shitbox

>>17726230
>4C coupe with 4C roadster headlights
R u afraid of spiders kek

>>17727261
that's how they come in burger

>>17726230
want

>>17727264
Fucking burgers
I hope at least the giulia is selling in the US else it's rip for alfa

>>17721460
I own a MiTo and I'm quite happy about it. Pre 2014 models are shit tho..

>>17726305
Any Uno turbos there?

>>17727299
It's getting leased like crazy.

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>removed my license plate the other day to put on a frameless plate holder
FUCK WHY CAN I NOT LIVE IN AMERICA AND DRIVE WITHOUT A FRONT LICENSE PLATE

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>posting cuckmobiles

heh

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muh passion
muh soul

>>17717232
>i like to know that my car will start in the morning.
>LT
easy, just steal another one in germany, like you people do

>>17724456
i want to fuck that butt

>>17724067
I wish. I was thinking about buying a delta hf turbo, an integrale is prohibitly expensive, a good one is even more expensive

In the meantime Im force to drive a lancia ypsilon. Please forgive me Vincenzo Lancia.

Hearing about Chinese wanting to buy fiat I was almost glad, maybe they will resuscitate the brand, fiat is letting it rot like autobianchi, nevertheless it's a 110 year old brand, with lots of history behind it. I cannot see why they decided to bet all on Alfa and nothing on Lancia in the 90ies, and its not like in those times Alfa had some good cars, quite the contrary

>>17727945
The most durable fiat ever made.

Is it a FIRE?

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>>17719762
no, the old 4WD model is
it's kind of a meme here in spaghettiland too

>>17727976
>Lancia rotting

It's partially true, they have no money for them ATM but you have to consider that apart from the rally heritage Lancia is not as recognisable as Alfa Romeo worldwide, also its reputation is bad in some countries like UK (Lancia ypsilon there is sold as Chrysler).

HOWEVER, Lancia is developing a specialty car like the 4C, maybe a new stratos.

They want to keep the brand alive so they can revive it, they just need to understand how.

I'd go full Italian Lexus, aka style and luxury above the rest but with hybrid and electric engines.

Yes I know...

>>17728036
>I'd go full Italian Lexus, aka style and luxury above the rest but with hybrid and electric engines.
sounds like a good idea IMHO.

i'm resolved to never own a big brand car. life's too short for that. my next car is an infiniti

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Makes me sad knowing I'll probably never own a GTV6

>>17728019
The Panda 4X4 is the god of little 4x4 shitboxes.

It can do everything.

https://youtu.be/kYmtZKD6RVY

https://youtu.be/BTjnCmcp-eo

>>17728019
I had 1995 model until a few months ago.

It rolled down a hill while stationary, probably because of unbalaced load (firewood) or a landslide; maybe both.

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>>17718881
Slovenian Punto anon reporting in.

>>17720102
Pure secks

>>17728041
I did kinda the same driving a Lexus myself in Italy, they're niche cars, and I can safely say that I'm satisfied because the car suits my needs and also is very recognisable.

It may not have a "real" gearbox or a punchy engine but I'm also satisfied since I have in return 23 to 25 km/l consumptions and the engine is good memes aside. Consider that here the most selling engine for premium hatchbacks are fucking 1.6 Diesel with 110 hp and Mercedes with the A Class uses a Renault Diesel as entry level engine and my CT is even faster outside the 0-100.

Having said that, when Alfa Romeo will release the new rwd premium Giulietta based on Giorgio™ Platform, I'll go for that since the Giulia is too big for me.

>>17724720
>Citroen 2CV

Aw sheeit

>>17717768

>FWD

>>17724857
>>girls will ask you the meaning of that exotic logo and will fuck you for you superior taste

more like

>other alfa owners will come ask you what broke down on yours till now

>>17728120
>Alfa owners
>USA

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>>17728119
I forgot that here only fwd Hondas are accepted, even if that car handles better than a same year 3 Series.

https://youtu.be/zON4bWsl2Ek

Is it worth it converting a fwd alfa with a busso engine to rwd?
Thinking about doing it to a 156 or GT or even a Brera

>>17717334
It's an m3 with a slightly different grille.

>>17728151
sounds cool

>>17728151
Except that it shits on the m3 performance wise
Except that it is way more beautiful than the m3
Except that it has a way nicer interior without a glued on iPad in the center console with an interior that looks like its pre pre predecessor
Except that you don't see it on the road every two seconds
The original concept of the m3 was literally an alfa rip off because they invented the sporty sedan

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>>17727898
It would look awesome without a plate. But Alfas are already way better looking than cars where the plate is mounted in the middle, on the left just looks way better.
Some people here in Switzerland just put their plate behind their windshield (mostly Audi drivers), but I don't think it's worth it, as it doesn't look very good behind the windshield either. Our plates (Wechselnummer) can be removed and used for two cars. Most people have a standard black plastic frame. But what I like and have on my cars are the older style chrome frames.

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>>17728179
I thought about putting the license plate behind the windshield too but I don't wanna draw attention of the cops

I replaced my generic black frame with a frameless one and I think it already looks way better

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>>17728117
I'm amazed that my Fiat is smaller than a 2cv. It blows my mind.

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Holy fuck

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HNNNNNNGHHH

>>17728272
Sexiest front end ever

>>17728277
nice

>>17717273
>diesel fiat

https://youtu.be/J77ccoVAHQ0

@ 5.25 he switches to Race mode, before he was in dynamic

>>17728270
Holy shit I might do this to my 159

>>17728270
>THE GIULIA IS A BMW COPY!!!1!11
>HURR A RED M3 I SWEAR

Meanwhile this tuning shows us how relatable are the lines of the Giulia with previous models.

>>17728322
The original m3 is literally a giulia copy lmao

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>>17728339
DELET THIS

>>17728361
>tfw Alfa invented the sporty sedan
How can BMW even compete?

>>17728363
Was the triumph dolomite earlier?

>>17728403
No, the dolomite was a 70s car but the giulia debuted in the early 60s

>>17728414
Neat. Seems like everyone jumped on that bandwagon (BMW 02 models, Fiat 124, dolomite, others) but that being said, they had already had the giulietta previously.

>>17728637
I'm actually saving up for a giulia gt 1300 junior atm but ill have to completely rip the seats out and redo everything because I'm too tall for a standard one lol

>>17717581

First of all these are much more expensive

Secondly the Giulia is objectively better looking that both of these

Thirdly those are literally nigger tier paintjobs

>>17718881
m...me

>>17718940
>>17722839
I have a brava 1.4

>>17718881

I have a 1.4 multiair turbo Punto which is alright

99kw and 0-62 in 8.5 seconds is alright for a cheapo daily

>>17727264
First time burgers do something right to the imports. The spider headlights are hideous!

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>>17728703
Wait to see the back

>>17728721
Puke
Why does America hate European cars so much that they ruin every single European car?

>>17728281
>clarkson isn't alfa romeo

>>17728679
Well let's see it, amico.
>>17728261
Who owns the 2CV?
>>17728103
A cute.

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>>17729216
No idea I just thought it was neat

>>17729297
Why does it have a swiss numberplate?

>>17729366
That's probably where it was imported from. Or they did it to give the vehicle a look from a domestic market where it'd been sold in

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>>17719762
>not the 100hp

Nope

>>17729413
If i'm ever going to have way too much time or money on my hands I am going to swap a 2l V6 Turbo into one of those.

>>17729512
might as well just buy a 500 Abarth

>>17729535
I recommend it

>>17729512
???

It's an ultra small city car, there's no space.

Put the 1.4 tjet instead

>>17729562
I would think it'd fit. And if not, the 1750 would.

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>>17719762
No. This is.

Can you fit a Ferrari v8 in an 159?
Just asking in case I get rich overnight and I can ridiculously modify my car

>>17729690
No idea but you can fit a V6 Busso with the F430 throttle body.

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>>17729690
This is what the Lancia Thema 8.32 did. Fantastic car.
A Thema with a Ferrari V8 equipped with the finest leather and wood you could get. It even has an active, electrically controlled spoiler.
You can get it for 8-15k$ here in Switzerland. But you need to replace the timing belt every 20k KM which requires the engine to be taken out completely. It also requires some special spare parts.

>>17729627
legit ultra comfy, my neighbor had one. best car to be in hands down.

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>>17729627

>>17729892
hngggg

>>17729892
>10/10 shop

If this thing had an Audi badge would unironically sell like hotcakes.

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>>17729752
The Thema 8.32 probably has been the apex of Lancia Luxury, it was the best supersedan ever when it was on sale.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHnyFsaxWsY

I read a book about Lancia's history and when talking about the Lancia Thema 8.32 it was written that the engineers and designers wanted a car that was so luxurious that the hands of the driver/passenger would only have touched premium materials everywhere in the cabin.

It was true since that car was way better made and more luxurious than a same year Mercedes.

>Press F to pay respects

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Also take a look at this youtube channel, it's "Fiat Centro Storico" (Fiat historyc archive) and it's full of ultra rare old spots and informative videos in high quality.

Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjJZdbH-zbs

The channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJMFl8nEgJEnWUJGgO34H9A

>>17730360
Fucked up, goddamn phone.

>Centro Storico Fiat --> Fiat Historical Centre

>>17728053
That is driving over lake Washington, Bellevue in the background.

Very pretty car.

>>17717229
let off some steam bennet

>>17716208
Me

>>17729734
159 Ti Sportwagon in rosso ruby with gold wheels Twin turbo v6 busso with f430 throttle and rwd conversion incoming
>>17729752
>>17730340
Jesus fucking Christ this thing makes me hard af

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How do you guys feel not owning a boat named Giulia?

shitbox general?

>>17718881
there are many poorfags from southern europe on here that can only afford a fiat.

>>17732678
Yeah, italian cars are utter garbage.

>>17732693
Post your car namefag

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>>17732731
now post your unreliable italian pos.

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>>17732748
Sick unpainted bumper billy

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>>17732775
>fiat garbage

lmaoing at your life

>>17732795
>American talking shit about things he doesn't even know about

I'm lmaoing at your cheap and ugly pick up truck that doesn't even get you ugly inbred redneck pussy because it ain't 'Murrican

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>>17732843
>stupid paisano thinks i'm american

lmoa, i'm canadian you dumb sperg. I know alot about italian cars to know that they're junk and can't even make it to 200k miles without having to replace the engine in one.

One thing for sure is that my truck can out last you piece of shit fiat garbage. Try reaching 1 million miles alone with the original engine and then come back to me.

>doesn't even get you ugly inbred redneck pussy because it ain't 'Murrican
thank god i have a lady, and bought her a lexus. another car brand that obliterates you shitty spaghetti automobiles.

>>17732855
>bought her a lexus
cuck

>>17717768
>General Motors 3.2 engine

>>17732748
nice ride

>>17732867
>cuck
except i'm not? no need to project yourself getting cucked by Tyrone again.
>>17732872
thanks

>>17732884
lol implying your bull doesn't use your wife's lexus to make runs to the convenience store for colt 45 and zig zags

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>>17732855
The last alfa sold before the 4C in Canada was the gtv so please tell me how you know how unreliable the 159/mito/Giulietta are?
Did you read about that on this Cambodian abortion clinic guestbook?

My 159 currently has 140k km and no problems at all and my 2.2l aluminum engine should hit 250k km without problems

Also, how boring does your life have to be that you want to drive the same car up to 1 mil miles and have to drive an ugly plastic piece of shit with a fucked up exterior and interior? Are you poor?
My car already has a few stains in the leather seats and a few stone chips on the hood and it's making me feel uncomfortable
I can't imagine how a already cheap plastic car must look like inside after 500k

Hey Canadian where did you go?
Did your gfs Lexus break down and you couldn't afford repairing it?
I mean it's kinda hard driving a 1 mil miles plastic shit truck to save some money to buy the gf a Lexus..

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>>17732923
that's one ugly fucking fiat, Austrians shouldn't have a taste that bad.

>>17732923
> Stains on seat
> Not wanting to keep your car for ever

Why are you here?

Also
> Having a car with cheap plastic, ever
Get a Fiat Stilo, the interiors of those are fucken beasts, I've never seen so much steel reinforcing and half in thick panels, they Litterally have inserts and machine screws holding everything

Makes my dick hard

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>>17733105
>calling the 159 ugly
Jesus Christ please show me your car I'm so curious to see what shit car you must drive

>>17733099
Ayyy brah
Nice facelift, what engine?

>>17733107
Show me a middle class sedan that doesn't have a few stains on the leather seats at 140k km from wearing jeans
Also, how autistic do you have to be to want to drive a car forever? Are you that emotionally unstable with women too? Do you have a oneitis? Lol

Also lol, i wasn't talking about my car about cheap plastic interior
Pic related is the 159 interior and it's absolutely beautiful
>thinking the fiat stilo interior is good
Please show me your cars interior so I can have a laugh at your pleb taste

>>17717273
>POORTUGAL
>fiat 1.3 diesel
Not surprised at all.

>>17733129
Cheers man, 2.0 JTS, drinks 10w60 but has never let me down.

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>>17733156
Nice man my 2.2 jts sips 0w40 and 13 liter/100km..
>>17733167
Bella!

>>17733174
God damn that 2.2 is thirsty I'm getting 31mpg / 9.1l/100km average from the 2.0

>>17733129
I drive an E31 and the 156 and 159 are ugly
Come at me lol

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>>17733279

>>17717572
>chrome wrap
>shitty wheels
>arab

It writes itself

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>>17733167
Damn that's pretty.
>>17733234
The 1.4 turbo in the Abarth is pretty thirsty too, I average about 32 mpg.
>>17733099
Looks like a cozy town desu.
>>17732775
>That color
Sexc

>>17733641
500s in the US. I'm still in awe that Fiat managed to get those things into the US.
That thing is the total opposite of an american car.

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>>17733167

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>>17734065
These rims are pure sex

>>17732855
Unironically on base fiats the engine would be the last thing you'll ever change

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>>17734068
Jesus Christ.

I wonder how much do they cost.

>>17733279
>>17733105
>>17732748
>>17732855
Oh no, the Americans are here. I had a Toyota for exactly two weeks before I got rid of it. They're very good cars, sure. But they're absolutely boring(Notable exceptions being: Chaser, Crown, Soarer, Supra, MR2).
What's the point of having one car forever, if it's not special. This either means you view your car as a mere mode of transportation or you can't afford anything other, so you have to ruin it for everybody, just because poor Cleetus can't afford anything other than a 2004 Tundra. This is a car enthusiasts board for people who have a deeper relationship to their cars rather than just seeing them as a utility.

My mom has a 2004 fiat panda and is really shitty (I'm actually italian) I also have a friend with a alfa romeo 147

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>>17732923
>Also, how boring does your life have to be that you want to drive the same car up to 1 mil miles and have to drive an ugly plastic piece of shit with a fucked up exterior and interior?

I'm not some retard who wants to waste money buying cars every 5 or so years, if nothing is wrong with it then whats the point in changing it? Of course retards like you would do something like that, i'm just watching the money keep on stacking because I don't have to buy new cars everytime the last one breaks down, LOL!

>Are you poor?
Bought a 40k lexus, good thing that didn't dent up my wallet because of the money i've been saving. Of course Yuropoors like you would never dream of buying something new or good that's worth while.

>I can't imagine how a already cheap plastic car must look like inside after 500k
pretty good and clean since I baby my shit for it to last a long time.

>>17733074
>Did your gfs Lexus break down and you couldn't afford repairing it?

Haha funny. Japanese cars breaking down... Ever... that's a good one you fucking pasta. But no, it's working just fine, no need to mistake my cars for a piece of shit Italian auto mobile that can't even last for no more than half a decade.


>I mean it's kinda hard driving a 1 mil miles plastic shit truck to save some money to buy the gf a Lexus..

Actually it's not. Thank god I have a well paying job to save extra money by not buying trucks every 4 years like the average burger or leaf. Thank god the Lexus I bought wasn't an issue.

And thank god this truck is still running like it should, and thank heavens I don't have to spend much on maintenance.

>>17734309
>Oh no, the Americans are here.

Except I'm not American? Lmao, Italian reading comprehension.

>They're very good cars, sure. But they're absolutely boring
>absolutely boring
form over function.

>What's the point of having one car forever, if it's not special.

Because I'm not a 16 year old girl who wants a car with all the bells and whistles in it.

>>17734582
Fuck off.

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>>17734620
Cry more fiatfag

>>17734639
Nice selfie, nigger

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>>17734514
>being Italian =/= must like fca products

Also the 2004 was a nice and clever car, cheap because that is, but full of space.

Compare it to other A segment opponents and see for yourself what shit means.

>>17728149
Brera is rwd or 4wd only tho

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>>17734718
>brera is rwd
jesus fuck I wish it was, Its FWD or Q4 AWD with fuckshit weight distribution.
The best one to convert to rwd would probably be the GT, as its already a very capable car.

>>17716208
Not me, because my car isn't on the side of the road

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>>17734736
Wat
NFS listed it as rwd
Oh well, i'm planning to get either a spyder or a mr-something

>>17718881
I actually own a Lancia, bought it for 120 bucks too

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>>17734771
>rust

REPAIR

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>>17734696
>doesn't even have a tach
You pretty much can't go lower in that segment.


>>17734639
Can't you read? Fuck off.

>>17734736
I'm currently eyeing pic related.
It's sex.

>>17734931
>econoshit

That car has more than 10 years and still looks nice and modern.

How did they do?

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>>17734931
>i'm so mad reeeee

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>>17734945
G I U G I A R O

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>>17734907
Cry more, fiatfaggot.

>>17716208
>lamborghini
>italian

>not just rebadged VWs

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>>17735073
>he's the special snowflake showing his shitbox toyota in an italian car thread
>cry more bwaaaaaa
lol

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>>17716208
here

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>>17735465
By the same logic the new Audi Q5 is a Mexican car, the same goes for the American BMW 3 Series.

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>>17735213
See pic related
>>17734790
Well post it boi
>>17734558
Mito a cuto

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>>17735509
>Well post it boi
I dun have pictures, and It's late so I wont go out to make any

It's 1998 Y 1.2 16V in the same colour as in the picture, with creamy alcantara interior.

I got It in 2015 for some 120$ and honestly It's the best shitbox I ever owned. I had some electricity problems but after that got fixed it's gud
It had 99k done by the previous owner and I've bumped it to 114k in like 15 months.

It has 86 hp and weighs like 900 kg so it's faster then you would expect. Factory claim 176 km/h top speed, but there are movies on you tube it finishing the spedometer, I did like 150 and got kinda scared since the tires are shit. Also engine redlines over 7k, and at 5k it just gets a kick like old vtec. funny shit

Build quality inside is out of the planet. Nothing you would expect in this class. I want to swap into something FR so I'm not investing into it, but as shitboxes go it's amazing

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hello

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>>17735210
Except someone asked for me to post my car, dumbfuck, and so I did. lol.

>>cry more bwaaaaaa
cried the fiatfag who wants me to fuck off because he's emotionally torn by me lmao.

>>17735638
Ayy

>>17735831
Breaking news: the mexican Q5 will be sold in Europe too

Me

>>17734907
nearly 13k for a 1.9 liter diesel fwd car?
Am I missing something here?
that is literally 335i/335d money.

>>17737418
>12k for a 335i
Jesus where do you live?
Where I live a 335i in good condition starts at 25k euros

>>17737424
>superior Bavarian
Salam aleikum achmed, how's the 500k km e60 520d going?
Are the cloth seats already worn out?

>>17737617
northern/eastern europe
shitty ones start at 10k, okay examples 12-15k

Obviously you retarded autists have only the starting price in mind.

13k € for a "335i" and that's it, You have the car in the garage.

Now here comes the insurance, the fuel, the tyres, the ordinary maintenance, and pray god that it doesn't happen something under the "extraordinary" maintenance category or you'll be bankrupt.

Meanwhile the sensible adult who's not manchild and is aware of his economic situation decides that a 13k Fiat Punto is the perfect choice for his budget and he'll be able to cover all the future expenses being also able to pay his food and the rent at the end of the month

>>17737712
>Eastern Europe
Aka the stolen ones

>>17737905
t. Wr anon

I have had 2 Puntos throw the head-gasket

I will never buy italian again

Fix
It
Again
Tony

>>17725672

Worse even, peasants that put ferrari logos on Fiat coupe

>>17737905
>punto
But that is the ""sporty"" Alfa GT.
If you want a "sporty" black coupe a fwd car is a waste.

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>>17738198
you no like Fiat Tipo 2.0 i.e. 16V Sedicivalvole turbo with alitalia and tricolore italia abarth decals

>>17737945
aside from interference engines with broken timing belts
head gaskets are a major weakness of fiat
also water pumps and cooling in general

electrics are not so bad as the memes make out
really depends on what year one is dealing with
>dem shift link bushings and door handle levers tho wtf mang

>>17737905
>aware of his economic situation decides that a 13k Fiat Punto..
then everyone around him dick slaps and chastises him for even considering it and pontificates the virtue of a 3k civic or corolla
giving dire warning of unreliability and difficulty of souring spares
while also making thinly veiled threats of ostracism
there are some places when even the mention of Italian cars is enough to make a pariah of people

>>17738565
>there are some places when even the mention of Italian cars is enough to make a pariah of people
for good reason too.

>>17738644
ya If i see one with a running engine
rust will have taken the body
the reverse too
perfectly good body with a dead engine
good to buy as a rolling shell if your into engine swaps

>>17739160
Pretty much this.
Especially the 335d will be just as good on gas as the 1.9 liter GT and the M57 is a million mile engine while pushing ~330hp with an ECU flash.
Also the interior is better made and would outlast any FCA product.
Oh and on top of that it can be had RWD or AWD, with perfect 50/50 weight balance

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>>17738565
My car is actually 20k new. But yeah, bought it for 14k. Not that it matters tho, since this was about an Alfa.
But yeah, it's hate and memes essentially.
My car is about 70k and no issues whatsoever. Nothing rattles, nothing broke. It's a little fun and reliable car. Couldn't ask for more.

>>17739160
>go to any used car site
>blown engines on BMWs with 100k kms
lmao

The 1.9 diesel on that Alfa is more reliable than anything BMW ever made.

>>17739587
the uno and anything older than it has many problems much of fiats reputation comes from that
tipo and punto are much better
and what you have is not much different from what every company now offers or at least claims to

>it's hate and memes essentially.
even worse than that they are lazy
most jokes are just left overs from making fun of skoda

yea I get it superior people never make mistakes
and their pet brand was good once so that means it will always be good

either that or they flit from one brand to another in a fickle manner over slight things
holding in their heart no conviction or resolve to any thing other than novelty

>>17739644
Point is, Fiat is as reliable as any other brand nowadays. The memes are just that: memes.
Even then, Fiats were usually pretty reliable engine-wise. Save for the headgasket issue on the 1.2s.

>>17739744
Like what one anon said earlier, the engines have never been a huge problem, it's just that for a while a few decades back the car had a tendency to rust out from under the engine.

>>17718881
mjet

>>17739593
Any BMW inline 6 ever made is built for 500k-1 million km, especially the diesels.
Lots of 600-700k km BMWs on autoscout24 while the highest mileage Alfas are at around 400-500k km.
No need to lie to yourself, even though the severely understressed fca 1.9 liter can go pretty far a BMW 6 cyl can go way further while pushing twice the power.

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>>17739744
>Point is, Fiat is as reliable as any other brand nowadays.

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>>17739744
>Fiat is as reliable as any other brand nowadays

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>>17739744
Point is, Fiat is as reliable as any other brand nowadays.

>>17740750
>>17740888
>>17740919
>samefagging this hard

>>17742956
shitalian cars are considered shit universally, no need to samefag.

>>17742966
>t. Cletus

The Fiat Panda is the most selling car in its class in Europe, but yeah, it achieved this status by being unreliable because people who are tight on budget usually love to spend for having their car constantly fixed isn't it?

One day you'll tell us what Fiat did to (you)

>>17742994
Fiat Panda competes with toy cars like the new Twingo, Volkswagen UP, Peugeot 108, literally the cheapest shit of all shitboxes, lmfao congrats italishills.

>>17716208
Anyone have an alfa 147 or a mito? They look cool but I dont know anyone with an alfa and I don't know how they are with maintenance/general reliability

>>17743117
No idea about the petrol 147s, but the diesels are bulletproof.
Any engine on the Mito is reliable.

>>17743139
Good to hear, there are a few relatively cheap 147s near me in very good condition.
Was tailing a mito the other night in a mountain pass and it looked super fun, the round taillights and break lights really caught my eye, out of my budget atm but a man can dream.

>>17743149
Man, if you can get a 147 1.9 JTD 150hp Q2 (or even if it isn't the Q2) go for it. It's an amazing car.
As for the Mito, what engine are you interested in? If you're going for a diesel, try to get a 1.6. The 1.3 is pretty swift (it's the one I have on my car), but the 1.6 is a whole different world of torks.
As for petrol, avoid the 1.4 N/A. Go for the turbo.

>>17743164
out of curiosity, what's amazing in the 147 or mito?
All of the diesel models are slow as fuck, a 1990 BMW 325i would outpace the 1.9 JTD, they're all front wheel drive and all are tiny and cramped.
I don't see how is it more ''amazing'' that a 1.9 diesel Golf or something.

>>17743200
My teeny tiny Punto has as much torks as a 325i.
A 147 1.9 JTD has a 170hp version with 330Nm. It outpaces a 325i even in pure power. Not to mention it has 100 more torks.
It's also a newer car (therefore safer), prettier and is way less prone to be a moneypit. And you won't look like a poor douchebag.

>front wheel drive
Yeah, you're not racing. It's a daily driver.
Plus the Q2 has a mechanical diff.

>>17743164
>150hp Q2
Meant 170hp.

>>17743200
Not that anon in europe fwd isnt really considered a bad thing because pretty much all cars are like that except for bmws and a few others, people dont think of it as an option I guess and for daily driving it is no issue at all, fwd cars can be fun too, especially light cars.
For the bmw part 80s and 90s bmws are pretty expensive to mantain (unless you live in germany or adjacent countries I assume) parts are expensive and those cars hava a ton of little things that break, living in southern europe its just not viable for a poorfag to get a bimmer, my brother got memed into one and it spends more time in the shop than being driven and he opens it with a screwdriver because the key electrical system is fucked, the fucker now borrows my shitbox, everyone shittalks my 75hp 90s fiesta but it never let anyone on foot

>>17743218
do you know a car with 330 nm and 170hp is still going to be a lot slower than a 325i lmao do you think torque is some kind of magic thing

>>17743234
>goes off the line faster because more torks
>has theoretically more top speed because it's more powerful (170hp vs 168hp)
Yes?

>>17743218
>newer therefore safer
goddamnit can you please kill yourself already?

>>17743243
It's harder for me to kill myself if I'm driving a safer car, innit?

>>17743241
oh youre talking about like a 95 325i then yes its also a lot heavier lmao. you realize any post 2003 or something 325i is going to rape a 147. btw i love italian cars hey

>>17743247
The 147 1.9 is actually lighter than a 1995 325i.
Google it.

>>17743257
yes obviously a car thats a sector bigger is heavier its obviously what i meant.

>>17743261
Never said it wasn't an higher segment, but my point still stands.

>>17743268
of course it still stands. although a modern 320d is going to rape a 147 both in the twisties and on the straights nowadays. i drive a 160 hp scirocco and a 520d wagon (1880 kg ca) sticks to the road almost like mine.

>>17743287
>although a modern 320d is going to rape a 147 both in the twisties and on the straights nowadays
Of course it will. Never said it wouldn't.

>>17743301
mjet i need to know, have you ever driven any other car other than your punto? for more than 10 minutes?

>>17728281
It should be
Clarkson: Alfa
May: Ferrari
Hammond: De Tomaso

>>17743308
I've driven many cars, Yaris, Xsaras, E46 E320, C4 1.6 HDI, Ibiza 1.9 TDi, Punto 1.9 Multijet, etc. I regularly drive my mom's E350 CDI.
Why?

>>17743316
*320D

>>17743218
just looked it up, the 170hp version is on par with the 1990 325i, both do 0-100 in 8 seconds flat.
But I'm pretty sure that for the money of a 170hp Alfa 147 you can get a nice, clean e36 328i which would be even faster - 0-100 in about 6.8 - 7.0 seconds
It would be worse for fuel economy but at least it would have that classic inline 6 sound

>>17743415
0-60 times are irrelevant in the real world. What really matters is how hard you can accelerate to overtake someone.

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>>17716208
Are Fiat Punto's shit cars? Why are they so cheap? I've heard they're really boring to drive compared to other hatchbacks.

>>17743313
Doesn't Hamster daily a 500 and May own a Panda?

>>17743474
yeah but 0-60 times usually reflect on overtaking times too.
For example the 2015 Alfa Giulietta 1.4 170hp does 0-100 in 8 seconds and 80-120 kph in 5.4 seconds while the 1995 E36 328i does 0-100 in 7 seconds and 80-120 kph in 4.7 secs.

>>17743164
>1.9 JTD
If you are a monster and dont care about the enviroment you can chiptune those (the 16v ones so JTDm) to 250hp for like 160$

>>17743667
>tfw my 159 2.2 with 185hp does 0-100 in 8.8s.................

>>17743164
Can confirm the 1.4 turbo is a fun little engine. Plenty of response and it makes all the right noises.

>>17743667
why is the difference in the 0 to 60 so much smaller than the 80 to 120 kph ?
I take it from this that the bmw makes its power later

more concern to me that passing prestige is average rpm or at least the minimum amount required to move
>for a normal 1.6 to 3.0 L car
800 idle
1000 to 3000 taking off
5000 to 6000 POWERRRR
7000+ ??? no more power only noise now

>some 50 cc scooter with a fat dude on it
12000 rpm just to start moving
then in spite of gear changes neither the engine goes slower nor the scooter any faster

of course some cars have an extra tall final gear
.eg that gear ratio could do 180 kmh with more power and rpm in the engine
but its made just to make 100 or 130 kmh bearable in terms of cooling and noise

>>17743117i
MiTo owner here, go for MY 2014 or after, (slightly) better interiors and overall build quality. Engines are fine, turbo lpg is clever if petrol is pricey where u live, if not go for everything 135hp+.

I drove a Fiat 500 rental car once.

Gear selector felt like a cheap child's toy but I otherwise liked the little thing.

I'd probably only own it as a fourth car for runabout stuff. That way I don't care as much when it shits out on me.

>>17743556
Compared to every other normal everyday hatches? Not really, but hey, want fun? Find an used evo Abarth ss.

>>17720102
Your car is such a qt3.14. Are the Italian reliability memes true? I really want one eventually either way.

>>17717263
i would shoot whoever keyedt his beauty

>>17743852
it's all about power to weight ratio and torque for overtakes

>what are euro regulamentations on engines?
>comparing an euro 0 Bmw to a cucked Euro 5/6 Alfa Romeo

>>17743922
Haven't owned it long enough to make a proper judgement of that, but it runs like a top. Changing my oil this weekend, so that'll be fun.

>>17743940
it's not key'd bro
it's a reflection of the mast in my freshly wax'd paint

>>17717232
Especially if a an old overconplicated luxury diesel engine piece of shit