What's stopping you from driving a Porsche 911?

>>17715839
not owning one

Even if i had the money I could never spend that much on a 6 cylinder that sounds that bad.

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shitty turd world cunt

>>17715839
i don't want one

and quite frankly they're for idiots who are just learning how to have money, i'd spend it on something more interesting and f u n instead.

I dunno, never really wanted one that bad desu.

my wallet

>>17715839
Nothing, but why would I want to?

>>17715868
What type of public transport do you have to take to think a 911 isn't fun

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>>17715839

I can't afford.

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>>17715868
>And quite frankly they're for idiots who are just learning how to have money.

That is a strong generalization. I'd say that statement would be true if you were talking about Lamborghini.

I'm also assuming you probably can't afford one. So if you had that type of money what car would you get? Mr. "I'm better than people with New Money"?

>i'd spend it on something more interesting and f u n instead.

You've probably never driven one. Especially on a track so again your statement is invalid.

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>>17715889
dude probably drove one in Forza Horizon and was like "yeah I don't like Porsches"

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>>17715839
997.2's are still a bit too expensive for me

>>17715868
Lol wtf

why would people buying it care for your opinion

>>17715839

no money

My bank account

>>17715839
GT-R is better

>>17715839
Lack of money

>>17715839
cost too much
they don't even come up for sale much

They're not at all popular here so the used market is very competitive and thus overpriced.

I'm sure they're great, but there's better out there for less, so literally why?

porce

If I manage to get my life together there's a good chance I'm buying a 996.

>>17715839
Liking the 944 much more

>>17715839
too expensive, have a cayman instead

>>17715839

Because Porsche means Poser in German

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>>17715914
That's funny, because I drove one in Forza Horizon and now I love Porsches, but mostly the Salamander bodies

>>17715839
Can you still get one with a manual? Last I checked they were all switching them over to DCTs, which means you're either spastically flipping paddles or just letting the computer shift for you.

I think I'd want some training and track time first, that snap oversteer. They're not exactly the safest cars to drive if you don't know what you're doing...

Being a poor fucking nigger

How reliable are 997's? I'll be making 70k annual soon, could I daily a 911?

>>17717539
For a sports car, very reliable. Especially the facelift models, since they have a completely new engine that doesn't have a failure-prone IMS bearing anymore.

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>>17715839
It's not a Mopar.

Corvairs are better

>>17715868
lol that's Audi and lower BMWs/Mercs, not Porsche

>>17715839
How much would a used late model 911 depreciate? I've been thinking about buying one because recently I've been making good money but I don't want to throw a ton of money away by buying something expensive that's going to depreciate like hell.

>>17715839
The autistic niggers & boomers who price them at literally 3 times over their actual value

>>17715839
Poverty and student loans (yes. I'm a dipshit should have done a trade)

>>17715900
anything more than a fully loaded mirage is new money

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>>17717498
>Can you still get one with a manual?
Yes, look on http://www.porsche.com/

>DCT's

you mean PDK

>which means you're either spastically flipping paddles.

They have refined it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTvEw-Mbzv4

>I think I'd want some training and track time first, that snap oversteer. They're not exactly the safest cars to drive if you don't know what you're doing...

Unless you are driving a turbo 911 from the 80s/90s you don't need to worry about snap oversteer. Newer Porsche have all the nannies so you don't kill yourself.

>>17717780
shut up poorfaggot

>>17717780
Agreed. Based Gemballa.
RIP

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>>17717865
forgot pic

>>17715998
Was the 964 peak Porsche aesthetics?

>>17715839
Not interesting for me. I don't like German cars.

>>17717901
Yes

>>17717856
>Newer Porsche have all the nannies so you don't kill yourself.
Even without electronics, the geometry and anti-roll-bar set up discourages snap oversteer these days

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>>17715839
I know they're awesome cars but I've never liked how they look, basically they look like a slipper

Also too expensive for me at the moment

>>17715998
>classic porsche ruined by stancecuckolds
ugh

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>>17717913
>>17717901
What about the 2.7 Carrera RS?

Even if I had the money a single one would cost about as much as five different cars I'd rather own and maintain and insure for the same money.

>>17717950
hnnngggg is that a T5?

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>>17717948
>Magnus Walker
>stance

>thinking stanceworks has anything to do with "stance culture"

woo you are late to this train.

>>17718016
OY MATE ITS ME MEGNUS!

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>>17718016
>denying stanceworks has anything to do with "stance culture"
literally first result for "stanceworks" on google images

>>17717856
t. a pleb who work for a living

>>17717539
Their sports cars are their most reliable models and Porsche as a manufacturer is near Lexis in terms of reliability
Not surprising since Toyota helped overhaul Porsche's manufacturing process in the 90s, it's how they could offer the Boxster for half the price of the 911 and still make money

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>>17718035

http://www.stanceworks.com/

uh huh yeah

>>17718090
>Turtlewax
Dear Lord

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>>17715839
Still too expensive. Thought about it around a year ago. The only one in my price range is the 996 and I'm not the biggest fan of those. Once the 997/991 come down in price I'll reconsider.

Pic mostly unrelated but it is my dreamboat

>>17718103
997 is just a 996

>>17718111
997.1 is pretty much a nicer 996, 997.2 has a completely new engine and is the first to get the PDK.

Too hard to find a 997.2 s manual coupe at the moment.

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>base model Carrera/Carrera S/C4S optioned out to cost as much as a GT3

LITERALLY FUCKING WHY

WHY DO THEY DO THIS?

This is on par with a V6 Mustang costing as much as a GT350. What possesses a buyer to do this? Is the Porsche options catalogue THAT enticing?

>>17720113
go build your own and see how much it comes out to

>>17720113

applies to literally any german car though.

you can spec out a fucking 3 series to cost more than a base m3

>>17720113
The GT3 is a stripped out road legal track toy. The Carreras are daily drivable sports cars

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>>17715839
but I do

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>>17720175
I dont see a Porsche in that picture.

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>>17715839
Because I'm just an average joe who barely clears $35k a year.

>>17720292
Entry level shit. True patricians are into Love Live

>>17717487
OH MAN, Sexy af Longnose Master Race.

>>17717950
The "2.7" stands for "Millions of Dollars".

>>17720303
Love Live is legit 3DCG dogshit, the show isn't even about idols, it's about le school drama FUCK OFF

>>17720180
I see nothing but beetles in this thread

>>17720330
You're talking rubbish again Jeremy

I drive over a hundred miles a day, and the cost to maintain a Porsche would cost more than I make.

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>>17715839

>the engine is in the wrong place

Hanging out past the rear axel is pretty much the only unacceptable place to put it.

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Does anyone here actually drive a Porsche? Pics mine.

>>17717856
Lol, all PDK means when translated in English is "Porsche Dual Clutch". It's a Dual Clutch Transmission. A DCT.

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>>17720395
Meh, it's a turd. I'll probably turn it into a track car and get an S63 or something

>>17715839
Enough of your convincing us to kill ourselves like Paul Walker to ban all Porsche 911s because they're too dangerous.

Should I get a 911 Carrera or a Cayman R?

Air cooled ones are retardedly expensive

>>17720523
Cayman R

>>17720523
Are you fucking retarded? Are you chugging paint again?

Cayman R.

Jesus.

>>17715839
I dont literally love sucking mens penises every day

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is pretty good car. just prepare for repair costs. yearly maintanance is only marginally more expensive than regular sport cars. tire bill is expensive. parts are expensive but plentiful still, there were many 996 made and more none oem options than the classics. plus they outperform any previous generation 911. can be had for 10-15k.

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>>17720330
its because you have your cuck goggles on.

>>17720368

rear end grip is a real thing

>>17715839
I work at a grocery store

>>17715839
I know I'll cop flak for this but I honestly don't like how they look. I understand that they are great cars, and they are fantastic value for money. But I just don't really like them. I could afford one but I probably wouldn't spend that much at the moment so I suppose price is an issue too.

>>17722538
same here. I don't hate on them, understand the heritage but don't think any of them is good looking.

>>17722126
I can't believe I convinced you to buy this and it didn't blow up in your face

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>>17722247

So is 50/50 weight distribution.

>>17722983
No open wheeled race car or hypercar is 50/50. It's a meme used to sell cars and is not ideal for performance.

>>17722892
>50/50
not the better 40/60

>>17723012
>>17722892

meant
>>17722983

>>17715839
Nothing. Saving money for a cts-v cos I just don't wanna spend it on a 2 seaters. I also like the sound of v8s and Porsche never had a nice sound Imo. Kinda like the new GTR. It's probably a nice car but I have a lot of cars I'd buy at that price before I'd want a Porsche

>>17715839
Literally my dream car. Someday maybe I'll be able to afford it...

>>17722126
Are they made in Germany still or did they do like BMW and start making them in Mexico?

>>17723082
All of them are built in Stuttgart.

>>17722126
That reminds me of a last gen ford thunderbird.
Gross.

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>2005
>Porsche
>Handmade by Hanz Ubermench

>2017
>Handmade by Mohammud Binpoopan

Thanks Merkel.

>>17720180

Something about the thicc Porsches I just don't like too much.

>>17723136
>more reliable than ever
>now offering 10 year warranties

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>>17723136
Looks pretty white to me.

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>>17715839

I decided to opt for an Evo instead.

I seriously toyed with the idea of a 996/997. Specifically a Carrera 4 or 4S.

But in the end I went with the Evo X because I've always wanted one, and it's kind of a dream car for me. I still like the 997's a lot, and I think once I'm done with the Evo I will finally get one. At this point I'm still relatively young, so I figure the 997 will be a good 'turning 30' car when I get there.

>>17715839
I fear I'm not cool enough to pull one off. I drive a m3 because of this.

>>17723082
911s have always been made in Stuttgart
Except for the oldest and newest ones, Caymans and Boxsters were made in Finland

>>17715839
Cayman being better

>>17723297
how so?

>>17723297

You mean the Coxster? No thanks.

>>17715839
>What's stopping you from driving a Porsche 911?
back seats are gay

>>17723306
google is your friend.

>>17723325
you sound like one of those people that have never driven an 911 let alone a porsche but shiitpost about them anyway

>>17715839
I worry about spoiling myself

with widespread use of hybrid and self-driving tech on the horizon, I think it's a real possibility the best cars the world will ever see are 911s that have already been made or are currently in production
I don't want to have no way to upgrade

Am I the only one that really liked the more aggressively styled headlights on 996's? I find 991's and 997's look kinda too "happy" from the front.

>>17723306
Like 70% 911 chassis from the door latch to the front and everything behind is mid engine perfection

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>>17723433
On base models they look kinda odd, with the rest of the car being all rounded and soft.
The more vents, wings and splitters get added, the better they look in my opinion. The GT2 is easily the best looking 996.

Semi-related, it feels almost like the 959 was supposed to have early 996 headlights. Look at the shape of the flat part around the headlights.

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>>17723433
what >>17723454 said

>On base models they look kinda odd.

damn right

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>>17723433
>>17723454
vs this

front bumper makes a huge diff

I'll never own a 964 turbo.

>>17715998
>beetle with a bodykit

>>17723325
It's like under 18's are somehow getting on 4chan despite the warnings

>>17720164
>every gt3 is a gt3rs

>>17715839
For those who are unaware

>Carrera<Cayman GTS <Carrera S< Turbo < Turbo S < GT3 < 918

GT3RS and GT4 belong in their own class since they're stripped down track cars, a bit too uncomfortable for daily use. You should just get an M2 if you can't afford a cayman gts.

What do you guys think about buying certified? Is it worth the premium if it's only until oct. 2019?

>>17723569
>he's never driven a GT3

>>17723742
I've driven a 996 gt3. Definitely not a stripped out track car.

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Got drunk with my roommate last night, we had a discussion about 911s, and how the enthusiast market hates new Porsches and are buying up third party air-cooled recreations from Singer, RUF, and RWB instead. Ended up poorly shooping this somewhere down the line, trying to give the new 911 an older aesthetic. Thoughts?

>>17724091
You don't drive anything besides your mom's clapped out 3 series you dumb nigger

>>17724198
More like a handful of autists are overpaying for gussied up Beetles

The new 911s are selling like hot cakes and are better cars than the old ones ever were

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>>17724441
oh

>>17724457
OH SHIT

>that yellow is ugly though


>>17723601
This

>>17717539
95% of all 911's sold in Canada in the last 25 years are still on the road according to an independent survey.

But the upkeep is costlier.

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>>17724457
>that interior

jesus fucking christ. that is disgusting.

>>17717734
Not a whole lot. Service records help maintain value. The 996 generation is the only ones that really depreciated, because much IMS and ugliest 911. Iirc the IMS has only been a problem on %10 of 996's.

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>>17724457
even this is better than that tacky shit

>>17717917
About as comfy as a nice slipper doe

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>>17724457
or this

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>>17724457
Im still recovering from your pic. that shit is disgusting m8

>>17723267
>Tfw no qt zuffenhausen gf to come home to me with grimy fingernails and smelling of petrol

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>>17724457
absolutely haram

>>17724457
>tfw apparently I'm the only person on /o/ that actually likes the 996 interior and color-matched center console

>>17724752
There's nothing wrong with the 996 interior, it's functional and well built. Ethan's example was fucking cancer

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>>17724638
Looks comfy

>>17724760
The yellow trim stripes and all the stuff on/around the cluster are a bit much and that fucking satnav unit is terrible, but other than that I've seen worse.

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>>17724788
The leather package was GOAT

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>>17724798
Extended leather package is just fucking cool. EVERY surface you can touch is wrapped in leather.

>>17715839
I like the Porsche 912 better. It's a shittier car but damn is it better than the 911s of that period. Also corvairs are better than older Porsches until the glorious 930 and 964.

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If you can't afford a 964 now, you never will.

>>17725508
bubble will burst my man

>>17717539

They are very reliable, but upkeep cost is higher due to expensive oil change.. like other luxury high-end cars.

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>>17720113
Porsche has a lawful right to do it because they are best. Meanwhile, they are laughing all the way to the bank.
Richfags probably think they are worth it, but they are very happy with their purchase.
rich chad's car - reliable, fast, sexy, chick magnet...

>>17725527
Oil changes are so expensive because they need like 10 litres of oil. But the intervals are also like every 15k miles

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>>17720164
>The GT3 is a stripped out road legal track toy.

Wrong

>>17725575
t. Never driven a 911

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>>17720395
Yes, '03 Turbo grocery getter reporting.

>>17725508
They're the shittiest of all 911s so that's cool.
Why do you think people are converting them to Singers in the first place?

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>>17723277
>choosing a literal econobox rice rocket over the most legendary sports car ever produced

>>17725508
>mfw 964 rs americas were going for 30k just a few years ago

>>17726953
>tfw could get a 964 C4 for $15k 6 years ago
>tfw also passed up on an NSX for $20k around the same time
End me boys, I'll never own either one of them at this rate

>>17725561
If an oil change like that is going to break your bank, perhaps a high end sports car isn't for you.

>>17723263
But only if you pay to have the dealer service the car? Let me guess, an oil change costs $500?

I live in washington and don't want to have to own two cars. I already own a forester and a bike.

If anything I'd replace the honda with a ducati. An 899, not an 1199. Muh corners.

>>17725740
GT3 RS is the track toy. GT3 is fine for a daily.

>>17728394
Expensive is relative. They're still under $100 if you do it yourself with proper synthetic and overpriced cartridge filters

They get cheaper in the long run when you get an adapter to use a spin on filter

>>17728441
It really isn't if you've actually compared it to anything nice. Hell even compared to a 911 Turbo

>>17728453
You can spec a regular GT3 to be pretty fucking nice, and the suspension isn't overly hard.
It's better suited for weekend duty obviously, but it's still viable as a daily.

>>17728458
It really isn't, the Turbo rides much nicer

Also lol no AC unless the original buyer whet out of their way to add it

>>17728463
Carrera - sports car
Turbo - grand touring
GT3 - super car
RS - track car

You can daily a GT3 but yeah, a Turbo or Carrera S would be nicer.

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Money.

1. The purchase cost is high.
2. The cost of insurance is high.
3. The cost of maintenance is high.
4. They're so expensive to repair that I'd be too worried to drive it as hard as they should be driven.
5. I love street drifting, having the weight of the engine in the rear makes it too easy to spin out and/or snap oversteer in an undesirable manner..

I have a '95 Miat that I bought for $2,200 - a much better choice except for straight-line speed.

>>17725889
Are they Popplers?

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>driving my Cayman on highway
>Spot a 997 gt3
>See a chick driving it

Didn't expect that one.

>>17726936

>not wanted to have fun with a rice rocket while your youth allows it before you ultimately slump into a more respectable car as you hit 30.

Fuck I might even keep the evo and buy a Cayman as well. Now wouldn't that be fun.