Why can't the Japanese make good luxury cars?

>>17690723
What are you talking about? Lexus at least is better than the Germans. have you seen the latest LS?

>>17690723
lavish comfort and luxury are inherently against nip culture

>>17690732
t. 80 year old asian woman

>>17690723

European luxury cars are great until you start putting miles on them. At least the Jap ones don't start blowing turbos and transmission sub 100k miles.

>>17690769
>what is routine maintenance

I never understood why Americans have trouble with European cars.

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>this is a 90k Lexus

>>17690814
>paying Toyota 90k

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>this is 170k Mercedes

>>17690804

>Let's call turbo or fuel pump replacement "routine maintenance"

European logic.

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>>17690814
>cherrypicking the pleb interior

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Because every auto manufacturer is allocated a small amount of car designs that aren't complete shit throughout their history and you need to get in on them while you can. Also I'm aware that it's exotic and not luxury but you can buy an old landbarge if you want comfort.

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>>17690814
>those door panels

>>17690723
Honda sucks at making luxury cars.
Nissan's shit feels outdated.
I say Toyota is the king of Jap luxury.

>>17690836
it looks nice
except for that silly shifter

>>17690818
Why is that center console so yuge? Is there a little fridge in there?

>>17690723
I think the Q50/60 is pretty nice.

>>17690723
I was thinking about this earlier. What's the point of a luxury car in general? Comfy seats, smooth ride, minimal road noise, great climate control, great sound system, interior that looks fancy. How much better is an E Class at all of these things than a Honda Accord that it's worth the huge difference in price? I'm more of a sports car enthusiast myself, so maybe I'm missing something here.

>>17690897

>How much better is an E Class at all of these things than a Honda Accord that it's worth the huge difference in price?

It's all about that status and consumer culture. Hell, the Honda could be a better car in every way (including luxury) and people would still buy the Mercedes so they could show off to their neighbors how much debt they can accumulate.

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>>17690723
>when your $100k Japanese Aston Martin still isn't enough to impress Mr. Anon Ymous

>>17690897
The good luxury cars pay extra attention to detail throughout.

The way the current S-Class was the first to feature full LED lighting without a single halogen bulb in the car...

The way the Lexus windows slow down to a crawl so that they don't THUMP loudly when you roll them up...

Countless examples, but overall if you have the money then why not enjoy something nice?

>>17690937
maybe if they would unfuck the front end we could talk

>>17690937

>Try to copy Aston Martin
>Fail
>Still want to change 100k for it
Japs should stick to bikes

>>17691071
and grocery getters like civics and accords

>>17690988
The 86 front end looks good and then they do this horrible shit to their expensive sports car. Weird.

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>Matt’s down with it too, and he’s not just some joker off the street with no sense of taste. What does he say about it? While the legendary Lexus LFA was like a Japanese Ferrari 599, this is like a Japanese Aston Martin. It’s got dramatic styling, an interior worthy of a $100,000+ luxury car, a fantastic soundtrack from the V8, and some impressive tech to aid the driving experience, and surprisingly decent handling despite its two-ton weight, and an exclusivity that separates it from what Mercedes and BMW are slinging.

>>17691104
and even older lexus' had decent looking front ends
they just went all in with the edgy styling for some reason

>>17691123
They were pretty boring inside and out from 1990 to about 2010 though. They took two decades of criticism to heart. Yet I still commend them. They are the only Japanese brand that can compete with Europe in terms of luxury.

>>17690723
Americans make the muscle cars, Europeans make the luxury cars/supercars and Japanese make sport cars

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>>17690723

They are not creative as Germans.

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>>17690814

>glorified, overpriced prius

Nice.

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>>17691181
>Euros make the muscle cars, Euros make the luxury/supercars and Euros make the sports cars.

Fix'd that for you.

>>17691268
>>17691272
>>17691276

Chavs pls. Nobody respects you.

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>>17691268
>not creative as Germans.

Are you retarded?

To make a new German car you copy and paste the previous design --> ??? --> new model!

At least every Lexus has its own personal and unique style and interior, the same could not be said for German cars.

>>17691286
>All those VW Golfs

>>17690814

That looks like a car that Daenerys, Queen of the Andals, the Rhoynar and the First Men, Protector of the Realm, Queen of Meereen, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Sea, Mother of Dragons, The Unburnt ,Breaker of Chains, Princess of Dragonstone would be driven around in.

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>>17690818

It looks great and is inspired by the classic benz.

Lexus just copied.

>>17691313
>forgetting she's the Leader of the Unsullied

As punishment, we are forcing you to marry Joffrey.

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>>17691286

>what is evolution
>Audi brought the grill from 1900s back and uss it as their signature.

>>17691350
Didn't every car in the early 1900s have that shape of grille?

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>>17691350

BMW's signature kidney grill

>>17691297

yeah see >>17691272

>>17691380
>he thinks FWD Golfs repurposed as FWD "luxury" sedans is the same as using the same components on different chassis

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>>17691391

>dat delusional lexus fangirl

If you want me to say something nice, then nice Camry.

>>17690917
The Honda Accord already is.
Reminder only AMG Merc Es can outpace the V6 Accord.

>>17691403
The majority of the Lexus lineup is rear-wheel drive.

The majority of the Audi lineup is front-wheel drive.

Stay assmad, friendo.

>>17691350
>(((evolution)))

Yeah, sure, they have been relying on the same design since forever then suddenly Walter De Silva arrived and designed the Audi A5.

From that precise moment every new Audi was the rip off of that design, they now are clueless since De Silva has gone from Audi.

>>17691374

And so? A distinctive tract is different from the whole shit design of a car.

Alfa Romeo has the same trilobe since forever but they managed to create the most beautiful car ever.

---

Are german cucks so desperate and delusional?

>>17691419

Audi outsells Lexus in the world.

>The most of the Audi lineup is all-wheel drive.

fix'd

Oh, I hear that next-gen A6 will ride on the Porsche platform that is exclusive for RWD and AWD only. Hmm...

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>>17691419
>The pinnacle of Audi production, the most advanced piece of German luxury, the Vorsprung Durk Technik icon is a fucking FWD car.

AYY LA MAYONNAISE

>>17691276
>Any euro muscle car
>better than ZL1
Now would you look at (these) crazy sons of bitches.
>>17691181
Swap Europeans with Jap on Luxury and add America on the sports car
>implying the V6 Camaro is not a god-tier sports car

>>17691350
Audi's disgusting grill create the ugliest trend in car design. Everyday I pray that Audi's "design" studios spontaneous combust.

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>>17691434
>The most of the Audi lineup is all-wheel drive.

Holy fucking shit, you're a dense motherfucker aren't you?

>(((AWD))) Audi are fwd bases + haldex

Stay mad

>>17691434
The next A6 should be a good car to drive, but you just know they're gonna fuck that exterior design all up with that GRILL.

>ITT: frustrated Audi fans

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>>17691436

>muh fwd meme

who cares.

Look at >>17691272
and this pic

>>17691439

That;s your opinion, man.

>>17691434
>Audi outsells Lexus in the world
People prefer badge over a good car. go figure.

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>>17691444
>The next A6 should be a good car to drive

Meanwhile,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8plO4AeKNU

Lexus is awesome I don't know what the hell you're talking about op

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>>17691453

oh that...

>>17691449
>fwd meme
>who cares

I care you dumbfuck, because they're charging premium money, the same you would spend for a proper car like an S Class, Lexus LS, Bmw 7 Series, etc..

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>>17691458
>>17691453

Meanwhile, the final production of SQ7...

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>>17690723

>>17691437
>Any burger musclecar
>implying its shoddy build quality can hold together long enough to complete a lap

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>>17690723
ha

>>17691466
A cherrypicked video of an Audi brick overtaking econoboxes with 1/5 power in an almost straight part of the nurburgring?

>>17691374
>kidney

It should be oficially renamed to pigsnout now.

>>17691471
It did. with the SS 1LE matching it in a head to head.

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>>17690723
Haha

>>17691466
Did it pass a GTI cabriolet?
The fuck, I had no idea VW made those. How floppy must those things be?

>>17691468
>>17691475
>posting Lexus from an era when they had no style and were basically Mercedes ripoff
>also stanced

>>17691483
matching M4 GTS in head to head*

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Reminder that glorious nipponese don't export their best luxury cars because filthy dishonorable gaijin are unworthy.

>>17691465
>>17691449
>>17691441
>>17691434
>>17691436
>>17691419
>>17691391

There are no FWD A5, A7 and A8 available in USA. We have only FWD A3, A4, and A6.

I would say not majority. Just some.

>>17691503
Its almost like Japan's town car. extremely solid but also very geriatric.

>>17691434
>The most of the Audi lineup is all-wheel drive.
>being this delusional

Basic models are all fwd. Only high end and performance models are awd and even A7s and A8s have/had fwd models.

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>>17690804
Yeah, if an $8000 engine out service to replace the chain tensioners and cam adjusters made of paper maché count as routine maintenance.

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ITT: Triggered German cars haters

>>17691517

Those fwd base models are the majority of purchased Audis though.

>>17690732
Word

>>17691525

>Basic models are all fwd. Only high end and performance models are awd and even A7s and A8s have/had fwd models.


According to Audi's USA sites, it is not true.

Other markets could have those FWD models, but in US, we don;t have FWD models for A5, A7, and A8. Look up urself.

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>>17691517
>Usa = the world
>no

Still, they're based upon fwd models.

Also another top pleb feature of fwd Audi is that in the rear seats they still have the tunnel for the drive shaft even if they don't need it...because that layout is an arrangement for derived awd models, and you end up with less space in the rear seats for something you don't have.

kek

>>17690732
Lexus is still far behind Mercedes, Maybach, Bentley, Rolls Royce.

>>17691550
Maybe because those last 3 all cost several times more than a Lexus?

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>>17691541
In one breath, Audi's global sales are touted, then in the next breath, we're only allowed to reference US sales.

>>17691545
>because that layout is an arrangement for derived awd models, and you end up with less space in the rear seats for something you don't have.

>what is exhaust system

most cars have that. What's a big deal with you?

Lexus ES has that as well.

>>17691550
>Rolls Royce

Oh yes, because a RR that costs 4 times a Lexus LS is a perfect comparison even considered that the interior is crafted by artisans and not by machines.

>>17691558


nice article with no sources or anything

>>17691557
Yup, but OP is asking
>Why can't the Japanese make good luxury cars?
while Europeans can?

>mfw Mercedes is the only car manufacturer to produce an armored luxury car
If you're rich enough to spend a house down payment on a car, you might as well just buy an S600 Guard or an S600 Pullman Guard and higher a driver for the weekends.

>>17691550
But not Aston Martin though...

>>17691545
>Still, they're based upon fwd models.

then all lexus cars are based upon fwd models. see >>17691272

>>17691561
>What's the deal

The vast majority of Audi sold worldwide is fwd and they are flawed by the "defects" of the fewer awd models they sell.

>>17691573
That is a fucking MODULAR platform, you know what modular means right?

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>>17691570
>Mercedes is the only car manufacturer to produce an armored luxury car
Nah
https://www.bmw-special-sales.com/en/topics/security-vehicles/overview.html
>mfw you drive in the Ultimate Armored Driving Machine

>>17691575

That's what the buyers want. They don't give a fuck about whether it is RWD or not.

>>17691550
Other than some fancy gizmos that you get on those cars that probably can't be found on the Lexus it is of higher quality and to make a S-class competitor (LS) with Toyota service cost puts it above them IMO.

>>17691590
>That's what the buyers want.
kek
This is how I know you're one of vw's target customers.

>>17691568
It has basically been the trend for the last decade in the US luxury market. This is easily Googleable.

The data is solid, unlike the tears of the VW Golf fans ITT.

>Mercedes’ sales in the United States sales fell 0.8 percent to 340,237 in 2016, with December sales dropping 6.4 percent to 32,011 vehicles.

>Second place went to Lexus, even though its sales slipped 3.9 percent to 331,228 vehicles. Lexus’ sales dropped 0.5 percent to 41,182 vehicles in December.

>BMW finished a distant third in 2016 with sales slipping 9.5 percent to 313,174 vehicles.

>Audi’s 2016 U.S. sales improved 4 percent to 210,213 vehicles — good for fourth place.

http://www.bmwblog.com/2017/01/05/mercedes-finishes-ahead-of-bmw-in-2016-u-s-luxury-car-sales/

>>17690723
Toyota will be making a Sodium car soon.

>>17691571
Are Aston and Jaguar even relevant?

>>17691590
But they should give a fuck about rear seats space because the new A4 has the worse legroom space while being fwd.

Notoriously they have more space in the back because the cabin is in a more advanced place compared to rwd cars...but that's not the case.

Give up, people only buy Audi because they're badgewhores and uninformed fucks.

>>17691579

>muh modular

All car manufactures' platforms are modular.

>>17691585
are those built in the US and then Exported to Europe?

>>17691614
So what was your point exactly in trying to selling us the idea of Lexus being glorified prius because of the modular platform?

VW does the same with the MLQ/MLB platform for almost all their brands.

>>17691617
The Audi Q5 is built in Mexico and exported in Europe, but people is still convinced to be buying a "german" car.

>>17691606
Nope

>>17691614
>modular platform
>still retain transmission tunnel for FWD cars
VAG clearly chose lower tooling costs over customer comfort or good design.

>>17691606
Jaguar is like a "once in a blue moon" kind of company.

The F-Type is the only interesting model right now.
Meanwhile they let the XJ and XF get really stale compared to all the competition, and the XE is just bleh.

Aston's a certified boutique brand, always has been. The current Vanquish and new DB11 are quite gorgeous. The Vantage is stale now.

>>17691627
BMW is also building the X7 (a V12 SUV) exclusively in the US. that is extremely odd.

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>>17691608

>new A4 has the worse legroom space

Really? Maybe you stop being a lardass.

I don't like A4, but your opinion is not true at all.

>>17691645
>>17691627

It's not really odd at all.

Which continent is more susceptible to purchasing gigantic SUVs? The Americas, or Europe?

>>17691656
Good point, it makes sense that BMW's heaviest cars are built here.

>>17691622

Not that anon,

>So what was your point exactly in trying to selling us the idea of Audi being glorified VW because of the modular platform?

>>17691637
Jag always lets their "exciting" model go stale though.
The E-type, XJS, XK8, XK. I expect the same for the F-type.

>>17690723
>Acura
Not distinct enough from its Honda relatives

>Infiniti
Subpar interiors for its class, and nignog stigma

>Lexus
Their stubborn insistence on sticking with the spindle grill, despite near unanimous disgust. People did ask for Lexus to be less boring, but the pendulum swung too far in the other direction. Edgy to a fault.

>>17691629

>VAG clearly chose lower tooling costs over customer comfort or good design.

The markets speak up itself. If it doesn;t work, then VAG would change and make them RWD or AWD only.

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>>17691673
>unanimous disgust
>literally referred to as a Nipponese Astun Murrrrtin

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>>17691667

The VAG haters won't answer this >>17691667

>>17691667
>>17691694
That Audi is less effective at it because their line-up is predominately wrong-wheel drive.

Asked and answered.

>>17691685
>using a $90,000 car as your example

Yeah, you're right. The spindle grill is wonderful.

>>17691685
That's the only good looking car with the grill though. Everything else is disgusting.

Audi's grill also ruins all its cars too.

>>17691648
Because you read from the brochure...

All the reviews I read, especially the comparisons between german sedans and the Giulia all said that the A4 has the worst rear legroom space with fron seats adjusted (read: real life use).

>>17691701
It's not the car's fault that you're too much of a poorfag to afford the good-looking cars in the line-up.

This is true across every brand.

>>17691697

I get that you hate FWD with a passion.

If you want right wheel drive, then buy one of those next level trims that always have AWD.

Or don;t buy Audi, Lexus, Honda, Toyota, GM (Cadillac), Ford (Lincoln) and all car manufacturers these build the FWD cars

>>17691708
>Because you read from the brochure...

No, it is the reviews.

Send me a link saying that A4 has the worst rear legroom space. I like to know.

>>17691712
LC500 is not anywhere near a top seller for Lexus. Their top sellers look like shit. Deal with it.

>>17691733
>obsessed with the poorfag models

>>17690937
The person who invented the term "japanese aston martin" deserves a raise becouse you stupid weebs bought that idea in a fucking second and are spamming this bullshit everywhere on the interweebs. The funny thing is that the lexus is complete garbage when considering how expensive their cars are and don't even come close to germans or even some american models.

>>17691741
>why can't Lexus make good luxury cars
>b-b-but they have one good looking one!

>>17691071
So much this

>>17691527
Constantly posting this terrible example

>>17691747
Lexus has the best looking interiors now.

Isn’t this what matters most in luxury cars?

>>17690723
Because big luxury cars do not sell in Japan, look to China in the next 10-20 years for affordable/quality luxury cars, they are at about where Japan was in the 90's right now with their cars.

>>17691747

I agree.

>>17691780

>Lexus has the best looking interiors now.

It looks nice to me, but best? Subjective.

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>>17691747
Sounds like envy. Audi or BMW couldn't make a car this good-looking if they tried.

>>17691750
>they have one good looking one!

Glad we're on the same page about the best-looking car out of Japan since the Z32.

>>17691648
For some reason a 1999 A4 has less leg room both front and back than 1999 Impreza, although the Impreza is AWD(which shouldn't matter that much), is both shorther and narrower.

>>17691769
How is it terrible? An $8000 service on a car worth $15k is pretty damning.

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>>17691787
Even under harsh auto show flourescent light it looks good.

I honestly am not a Lexus fanboy. They were always forgettable cars. But they're really stepping their game up.

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>>17691731
Instrumental test from Quattroruote August 2016

>>17691821

>1999

Yeah so what.

I am talking about the current one. According to the reviews, the new A4 has more legroom than 3 and C-class, even more than that Impreza.

>>17691527
I can buy a whole new ls1 engine for my car for $500

>>17691780
>interiors
>Isn’t this what matters most in luxury cars?

Exterior design is very important. Mr. Noseberg doesn't want to drive to the office in a car that looks like a fucking Transformer.

>>17691843

Interesting... but the source is from Italian Magazine, could be biased. Other reviews are contradicting with this.

>>17691870
Camaro sales beg to differ.

>>17691374
>>17691350
>Can't into high res

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>>17691872
It's not biased since Quattroruote is full sponsored by VAG group and the comparison itself has been won from the A4 (what a surprise) even if the scores said the opposite.

Here, if you want to take a peek there's the whole issue: see picture

>>17691880
Not a luxury car.

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>>17691889
Prove it.

>>17691550
What if I'm not a rich nigger?

>>17691917
Used Volvo or Saab

>>17691888

Thanks for the file. I wish that I could read Italian. Those stats are informative.

>>17691488
>implying 90's/early 00's mercs were anywhere near as godly as Lexus of that era

>>17691527
the whole reason the engine was designed like that was because of vw's autism with only using fwd platforms. in the audi they tried to fix the fwd probpem by putting the engine in front of the transaxle which they had to make the engine shorter since it was so close to the front bumper. they shouldve just fucking made rwd cars

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>>17691870
Are you telling me business men don't like aggressive styling in a luxury car?

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why can't the japanese into track+street cars?
why can't they into a proper stickshift gearbox on their worldkiller?
why can't they properly list their cars, since it was a hopped up version of the nismo and not a regular nismo?

>>17692103
>takes a track only car to beat a 10 year old road going datsun
good job America

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>>17692113

>10 year old

no try 2 years.

>>17690723
They do. Even the CEOs of American car companies own a Lexus.

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>>17691798
BMW already built a big coupe that is better looking.
It's called the 8 series.

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>>17692156
tfw new bmw 8 series is pig disgusting
What the fuck happened? How did we fall so low?

>>17691268
Germans are becoming more lefty and German automakers seem to not innovate in the ICE field anymore.

Meanwhile, Japanese are still making improvements to ICE technology.

Eventually those lefty Germans will pick Japanese cars over German cars due to Japanese improvements in ICE field.

>>17692155

Who?

>>17692175

Can you give me 2 examples of that?

>>17692175
the last time i was in europe kias were everywhere. when i lived there ferds and vws still reigned supreme

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>>17692171

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man

>>17692175
>lefty germans
>ice cars

You mean self driving electronic kei cars with 40hp, after declaring the auto nahn truck only and turning half of its width into train lines

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>>17690723

>Lexus shills

>>17692206
>being this normie
theres more than plenty train lines in germany and im sure your versa is quite the muscle car compared to what germans drive

>>17692202
>>17692171
The front is ugly as fuck. Look at it squinting
The back is fine

>>17692250

>Look at it squinting

Well, they are laser headlights.

>>17692113
>track only car
? it was a special trim edition ACR with special tires (every meaningful burgerking run has special tires)

there was nothing in it different from a regular ACR, get fukt jdmboi

>>17692202
>>17692171

It shares very little with the original except two doors. It honestly looks like they saw the LC concept and decided to copy it. Has more random creases than the LC itself does.

>>17692179
Back in the day Allan Mullaly went on record stating he was a Lexus LS owner and had to cancel his order for a new one after he was chosen to be CEO of Ford.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1029165_new-ford-ceo-admits-to-driving-a-lexus-ls430

>>17692175
>Germans are becoming more lefty

MORE!? Is this even possible?

>>17691313
What would Jon Snu drive?

>>17692968
There's no time for that

>>17693019
You know nothing.

>its a poorfags shill for lexus episode

Who would have thought

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>>17693154

I know... they are predictable.

>>17692429
Steve jobs, bill gates, Steven (((jewberg))) all drove LS400's for years back in the day.

>>17691441
A3 is Haldex whereas Quattro is polar opposite. Nigguh you ignorant

>>17690723
That's my car on the right except the 4 cyl version.

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>>17690723
its the luxury car you buy your wife so you don't have to watch her drive a precision european car into the ground.

its safe, not too fast, comfortable, takes punishment, CHEAP, and more importantly your old lady doesn't fuckin' know any better. its a "Lexus".

>>17694587
>not too fast
It's probably faster than any of the germans in equivalent trims.

>>17690937
fix the grill ffs

>>17694608
the IS may be, but the ES is literally a camry

>>17694629
>the ES is literally a camry

you say that like its a bad thing

How are the Infiniti G37 and Q50?
The G37 seem like a good bargain for what you get, and the only really bad thing I've heard about the Q50 is the optional steer by wire.

>>17694629
That's exactly why it's faster. V6 camrys are much faster cars than people give them credit for.

>>17694629
A V6 Camry. Those things make plenty of power, I think the new one makes like over 300bhp

>>17694629
Previous gens, yes. The current model shares more with the Avalon

>>17694632
>>17694670
>>17694671
>>17694767
don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with a v6 camry, and i know they're genuinely quick. for more than 40k, though, there's a lot on the market.

Lexus: Oh yeah
Infiniti: Getting there
Acura: lolno

>>17691488
That's a Nissan, not a Lexus.

>>17691569
Because Japs arent ponces nonces

>>17690723
Wat? Acura is pretty much the best starter or "entry level" luxury brand. Reliable AF. Only thing they need to do is bring back the fucking RSX.

Infinity is decent. The g37 was fucking great.

Lexus is above all. They're literally the Best luxury brand under 300k. Reliable as all fuck, comfy, and smart Japanese engineering. Not to mention Toyotas beautiful engines.

German cars outside of Porsche (and let's be honest, most porches are ugly) are a steaming pile of shit after 70k miles.

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my niggas at Infiniti hit the ball right out of the park with this.

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>>17691637
Xj-r got bumped to 575hp, sounds brutal.
Xf is still comfy cruiser, maybe v8 down the line.
Xe is best handling car in segment, beating out the ats and 3 series according to every review out there

Vantage is stale? Its a v8/v12 with available manual trans. Nothing stale about that

>>17691637
>the XE is just bleh
How?
Not trying to defend it, but I've only heard good things about it aside from the interior not being as nice as other Jag interiors.

>>17690732

Lol prove it autist

>>17690897

There are people in this world who are richer then you

>>17692171
>>17692202
only the concept
the production model will look something like that but not as overly exaggerated

>>17691545
Driveshaft passes above exhaust pipes.

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According to women if you drive infinity or Lexus you won't get any pussy .... Btfo

https://youtu.be/SxkmXpRvFMw

>>17694798
Yeah but those cars don't have nowhere near as nice of an interior or ride as well or are cheap to own

>>17692224
i'm sure clarkson said that the GS-F is better than the M5 and the other german rivals

The current generation GS is a pretty damned good car.

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>>17695665
And the M3.

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>>17695306
Talk about basic bitches
>the guys face at jeep

>>17695740
>>17695665

>not knowing that Clarkson got paid for shilling it.

kek

>>17695306

Lexus shills confirmed on suicide watch

>>17695841
That'd be an interesting tidbit, if you could prove it as fact.

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>>17690723
this design is more than 15 years old and it still looks good, name one more attractive SUV introduced around 2002

>>17694919
This car is so beautiful. Unlike>>17692171

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>>17695965

>>17693170
>>17693154
t.poorfags

>>17693170

is that prius shift?

>>17695921

If he likes them so much, why not he buy one of them?

He bought Mercedes CLK63 AMG Black Series after he tested it.

>>17696203

>not reading the filename

Yes. $100K LS shares a lot with $25K Prius. see >>17691272

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>>17695965
nominating the more muscular e53

>>17691477
this, I can cherrypick a video of a van overtaking bikes and porsches on burgerking

>>17696226
At least its not front-wheel drive. >>17691436

>>17696297

Yeah, it is good that A8 models can offer FWD and AWD.

It looks like Audi won't offer the FWD A8 in US. hmm...

>>17691685
I think it looks fantastic
it probably appeals to my Asian sensibilities, though, but no biggie
looks nice

>>17696226
So if the Audi A8 uses the same ZF shifter like a 25k car this is ok and universally accepted, but if Lexus does the same thing suddenly it's wrong.

I like how your fangirls double thinking

>>17695965
>tfw it's being discontinued

>>17696643

Not that anon

You notice that many people's reaction when Audi does the same thing, suddenly it's wrong.

Double standard.

>>17696662
Only for a few years and then it'll return as another abomination

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>>17691458
I guess it really did hit the Nurburgring.

>>17695306

>WHAT MY IS350 IS NOT A MOM CAR :-(
As a Lexus owner, I can't really give them much grief over their opinions. Honestly the only reason I don't drive an Audi or Mercedes is the prohibitive cost of maintenance. Of course, as a giddy female passenger, these recurring costs probably don't even cross their mind when comparing vehicles. They just wanna take duckface selfies in Chad's German whip.

I did have a nice kek when she didn't even know Infiniti was a luxury brand. Nog-tier indeed.
>Lexus > Infiniti > Acura

Not too surprised that they creamed over Rover and Jeep.

>>17690723
>>17691268

It's there's little need for it in general in japan plus full size cars are expensive and parking is a nightmare.

>>17692143

This isn't new, the GT-R itself it pretty bad in design. They could make it faster and lighter but the main designer things adding weight helps traction

>>17697293

>not reading pic

hurr durr

>>17690814
it looks good to me, at least it doesn't have an ipod glued on top of the dash

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>>17690818
interior looks like a work van or a dump truck

>>17690917
some people just buy what they like, $30k extra is not much for them and they dont wanna waste time haggling at all the honda dealerships

>>17691268
doesn't seem a fair comparison considering mercedes makes buses and trucks as well as taxis in germany

>>17696246
I like that one too but the facelift you posted was introduced one year after the FX, but i let that slide, at least you didnt come up with that horrible mercedes ml, i like the 2003 range rover too