[D a i l y B i k e T h r e a d - /dbt/]

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Thank you Satan.
I rode an MT-09 today, it was the first time I ever rode anything with more than 48 PS and I have to say... it wasn't as scary as I thought. Yeah the front gets light if you WOT in 1st or 2nd and I did a sick little drift when I gave a little too much throttle around a left bend but it won't absolutely rek your shit if you're careful with the right hand.
I can see why it'd be a bad bike to start on though. Absolute noobs can't into throttle control. It was pretty jerky as it is, especially while trying to slalom in 2nd.
t. rode A2 bikes for 2+ years

Honda Bulldog WHEN

>>17683671
does that mean you will stop telling everyone to start on a piece of shit now?
its like a big powerful car, they are easier to drive at the speed limit than an econobox that is revvings its guts out to do 70mph

>>17683666
I've been offered a CB125E for $1200 AUD (950 usd), with only 2000KM and new tyres. Is this a good deal? I know its a slow bike but I wanna get a cheap bike that won't cost a lot to maintain or insure. Cheapest decent 250's all seem to be at least ~2500 where I am and they all have higher KM's

>>17683506
I rode the mt-09 at 6'6/198cm and it really didn't suit me.

>>17683677
No, the CB 500 is a good starter bike and the GS 500 is still the Best Beginner Bike. Did you even read what I wrote? The MT 09 would be atrocious as a starter bike precisely because noobs cannot into throttle control and would end up looping that jerky piece of shit. It's fun, but it takes self-restraint.

>>17683681
Do not start on a 125.

>>17683690
You mean you can't into throttle control and ride into trucks?
stop talking for others, you are like those people in that video from the last thread that run into the crashed groms and fall over due to having no leg strength drobe.

>>17683690
What size would you recommend then? Most people suggest something like the Ninja 250/300 for a beginner.

>>17683702
not drobe but i recommend anything 400-750cc or what ever cruiser suits your fancy.

>>17683694
I can into throttle control, which you can tell from how I didn't loop the bike and didn't lowside on bumpy roads, train tracks etc while cornering. 2 years of daily riding will help anyone not be a shit rider, even if they were shit to begin with (like me, which I'll admit).
The majority of 18 year olds are just shitheads with no restraint and no self-control. Yes we get it, you're a special snowflake, you started on a liter and managed not to crash, well done. The majority if beginners (to whom we must cater with our suggestions) would not be so lucky.
My leg strength is perfectly fine, thank you very much.

>>17683702
Any standard / naked between 35 and 80 PS.

>>17683681
After a week you'll wish you spent the extra $1000 and got a 250.

>>17683707
Post your thighs

https://youtu.be/q6mqochYOUA

This guy drunk, stolen bike, wanted criminal, or what?

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>>17683710
Literally me.

>>17683671
>It was pretty jerky as it is, especially while trying to slalom in 2nd.
That's just due to shitty fueling, power commander fixes the fz's in a big way.

>>17683717
id fuck your sister drobe.
post the pics of her on your bike.

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>>17683718
I heard as much. Did they update the fuel maps for the Tracer as well? Instructor said if I thought the MT was jerky I should feel his Tracer.
Not that it matters, there's only one liter I'm really interested in.
MAJESTIC

>>17683721
At work, don't have the pic on this PC.
She's single again you know.

>>17683725
whats her number?

>>17683727
4

>>17683725
Please don't get an expensive bike you'll just ruin it with your shitty riding

>>17683735
I'll buy an S1000RR and ride it into a truck just 4u.
And because they're ugly as fuck, but mostly to trigger you.

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>>17683730
is that her age?

>>17683738
Quit pretending you aren't a broke fucker drobe

>>17683756
That was 3 years ago when I didn't have a job. Uni is almost done, in 6 months I'm getting decent dosh.
I'm still a cheap fucker though, I'll probably end up keeping the CB another 2 years, then getting a used Hornet or something for a couple years until the MAJESTIC porpoise is cheap.

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>>17683666
>666
Hail satin!

How's dbt this lovely morning?

>>17683767
>buying a notork bike

>>17683797
>being a nobike shitposter

>>17683798
I'm trying to stop you from making a grave mistake

Hornets look cool but they're a shit
Unless you're talking about the 919's

>>17683802
Calm down anon, I'm not going to buy one based on looks. When the time comes to upgrade bikes, I'm test riding the contenders and picking the one that feels the best to me. I mentioned the Hornet by name because I sat on one and liked how it felt (seating position), and because it has roughly the amount of power I am looking for in my next bike.
And I quite like revvy engines 2bh.

>>17683808
Lol, what makes you think I'm not calm?
Why do you have such an awful taste in bikes though?

>>17683818
Not him, but taste is subjective u fkn sperg

Just learned that my gaskets are made of paper wtf how da fuk don't they leak?

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My first 10,000 km.
How much do you got on your bike? and did you bought it new?

>>17683822
To an extent, no same person should enjoy the taste of shit

>>17683824
A bit over 2462 lad. Babby's first bike and I bought it pre-reg at 3 miles.

>>17683824
42000km, bought it at 34 last year

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I can't sleep.
Thinking about the throttle stop screw.
Why are there two?
Why did the pirated manual lie to me that there's only one?
Am I supposed to use the top one if the bottom doesn't help?

>>17683824
My bike is 20 years old. Bought it 2 years ago at 38,000 km, am now at 59,000.

>>17683681
If you're in AU, find a CBR250RR. They're cheap (especially with higher KMs). Don't be worried of 90,000km+ models, those engines are bulletproof with basic maintenance. Absolute god machine.

>>17683846
>why are there two
There's only one, right? It's labeled 36 in the left hand illustration, and 10 in the right hand one.

>>17683666
Are CB400's reliable? A few for sale in my area and I'm interested in getting one. They're all around 2011-2012.

>>17683902
Don't they need new rings by the time they hit 50 k miles? It's a fucking 20k rpm engine after all.

>>17683904
>10
19, obviously.

>>17683902
Honda knows how to build a motor. I remember a test from years ago that tested a CBR900 motor at brand new, 1K, 15K, 30K and 60K miles.

Put out the most power the more miles it racked up. I may not personally care for Honda motorcycles but goddamn they are reliable.

>>17683904
It's the one labeled 19 on the right and 36 on the left.
But in the right it can clearly reach throttle, but on the left there's 32 right above it.

>>17683908
>new rings
>new anything on the god machine

I'm telling you, bulletproof. Mine just had a very major service at nearly 90,000km (I was paranoid, told them to check everything) and the only problems were a wheel bearing and worn brakes.

Self control test: Listen to the entire Initial D OST while riding without going above the speedlimit once

>>17683920
I seriously have no idea how they manage to pull 45HP out of a tiny 20k RPM I4, let alone make the thing capable of withstanding 27 years of learner rider abuse. And the thing only weighs 160kg soaking wet. Will always be my favourite bike.

>>17683923
Also bike bandit calls both of them "carb adjuster" which tells me I'm blessed to try and spin the 32. But why would they put it there if not to prevent me from seeing idle throttle position too low?

Has /dbt/ seen the movie Torque?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxoVMuWkluA

>>17683796
I'm pretty well Anon.
What ship are you on?

>>17683923
Oh I see.
Do not question the Carb God. Offer him your firstborn and swear to dedicate your life to fighting the skid demon and all will be well.

>>17683934
You ought to look up the RC166. 250cc inline 6 racebike.

>>17683947
Good to hear my man!

Nothing fancy. Just a govt boat doing boat stuff

>>17683823
its treated paper

>>17683938
total bs how does he jump without a ramp 4/10 not realistic

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>>17683666
Is the ninja 650 a "boring" choice? I'm looking to move up to something in the middleweight class, and I really like the ninja/Z 650s for their ergos and looks, but all research points me back to the FZ instead.

>>17684012
What have you been riding so far? If 125 it's a decent enough choice, if 250 or above get something a bit more powerful.
Check ergos on cycle-ergo.com and most importantly, go and test ride those bikes that are possible choices. If it feels right, buy it, even if it doesn't look as good on paper.

>>17684012
maybe

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>>17684015
I have a 390 duke right now that I've been riding daily as my summer commuter and for some weekend trips as well as just doing parking lot drills (cornering, emergency braking, etc).

On the highway it's perfectly smooth, but passing and getting out of people's way at speed requires a few downshifts and I'm not confident about it even then. I could wait for a 790 duke, but I'm a little worried it will be "too much".

>>17684029
Yeah, just test ride some bikes.
>passing and getting out of people's way at speed requires a few downshifts
How is that a problem?
>I'm not confident about it even then
Sounds like you need to git gudder at judging speeds and distances instead of getting a more powerful bike, 2bh.

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Why is painting so bloody boring.

>>17684039
It's not but the bike obviously isn't meant to be doing responsive work at higher speeds. I meant I'm not confident about it because it doesn't feel as capable higher up.

>>17684118
I really love doing it. Just don't stick around while it dries. Clamp looks good.

>>17684140
>doesn't feel as capable higher up
This might come as a surprise for you, but you generally don't need to accelerate to 60 over the speed of whomever you're passing within 0.2 seconds. Here's what can go wrong when you're overtaking on a (relatively) gutless bike:
>lose control and run into a ditch / the vehicle you're passing
Even likelier on a more powerful bike if you whiskey throttle.
>get rear-ended by Porsche overtaking you and slowfag in front of you
Do shoulder checks and look in the mirrors before overtaking. Signal early.
>overtaking distance too long because speed difference is low
You need to get better at judging the distance it'll take you to overtake and decide if it's worth the risk if it gets close. Like, if the guy you're trying to overtake is doing 10 under the limit right now, but has been speeding 20 over the limit through towns and another town is coming up just after the overtaking zone, you might want to give it a pass.
Your engine isn't going to miraculously blow up or anything and if you fear you'll run out of power (as in, hit top speed and be unable to accelerate further), chances are it's not worth it to overtake the guy unless you're on the Autobahn, he's in the left hand lane overtaking a slow truck and you're coming up on him at high speed already.

TL;DR
Unless you ride a 125 or under, your bike will accelerate as fast or faster than most cars you'll encounter on the road. They somehow manage to overtake one another while taking up more space than you, so why shouldn't you?

>>17684118
Fuck my life.
A part fell in the grass.

>>17684175
I'm not saying that I don't have a lot to learn after just a year of riding, but there's a reason people aren't lining up to buy 300s for highway commuter bikes. I ride on the highway all the time, it's not that it's impossible, it's just annoying. I'm not going 60 over the speed of the person I'm passing, nor do I need to do it in .0.2 seconds.

>>17684187
Really, it's your decision and if you want a more powerful bike, knock yourself out. I just think that if you're still "worried" about things on your current bike, maybe you should work on your abilities first and get more confident before jumping on a bike that will give you even more things to worry about.

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>>17684184
hahahahha

>>17684175
This is just incorrect. Overtaking on a fast bike is far, far safer than on a slower one, assuming you have the ability to control the power.

You can get up to speed to overtake faster, require a shorter distance to do it in, can slow down faster to pull back in lane if required, can get past drivers quickly who don't see you and merge into your lane, and you don't have to worry about anything behind you, because they won't catch you.

I wanna start riding a bike and I've been thinking about something. I heard from multiple places the throttle is a problem for a new rider, accidentally opens up trying to turn etc, is there something that will lock how much gas handle can move? Something you can set maybe, as you learn you let the handle move more and more but have a locking mechanism for accidental opening.

>>17684270
yes, your wrist. turn it less and the throttle opens less

>>17684270
That doesnt sound like a good idea

>>17684270
You're overthinking it. Like waaaay way overthinking it.
What you are imagining happening isn't even a thing.

>>17684278
>>17684282
>>17684276
I mean what would be the downside of this? It definetly would give me more confidence. It would also limit bigger bikes to a smaller power.

>>17684270
The problem isn't necessarily the amount the throttle is opened, but doing it at the wrong time or in a jerky way. Get a 125 or 300 so it won't loop out on you and use the throttle smoothly, especially at the limits of traction and you won't have any problems.

>>17684270
Don't use MSF throttle holding method and you won't have this problem they address.
Since you are so conscious about this, you will probably pick a bike with a throttle that acts as an off/on switch anyway, like ninja 250.

>>17684270
>>17684289

Just get good, you have to fuck up pretty hard to have any real problem with the throttle on any normal beginners bike.
Not only that but people run into trouble by a rough closed to open throttle transition more than opening it too far unless it's at some serious lean+speed

>>17684289
Because sometimes, grasshopper.. you actually NEED more power. And if you limit the throttle travel you will fuck yourself in ways you cannot yet imagine.

>>17684289
>I mean what would be the downside of this?
not being able to open the throttle all the way

>>17684293
What do you mean by this? Neutral hand position on no-throttle is their taught method, what is wrong with this?

>>17684269
>assuming you have the ability to control the power.
But that's just it. Anon rode a gutless shitbike so far, so he doesn't have the ability to control the power. That comes with riding powerful bikes. Before switching to a more powerful bike, he should get more confident so he doesn't ride the powerful bike like a complete pussy, and then gets scared when there's suddenly a lot of power if he whiskey throttles because the road is bumpy or whatever.

You are completely correct, mind you. I just think that Anon doesn't sound like he's ready to learn to control the power of a (much) bigger bike, and upgrading to a Ninja 650 isn't going to be a big enough step to justify it.

>>17684311
You realize it's asinine as soon as you try to hold wot for any extended period of time, which is going to be very common on a low power bike. Keep hand neutral on stable throttle instead. Release (trust the spring) and lever thumb against the control cluster when you need to use front brake very quickly.

>>17684301
>>17684303
how is a new rider opening full throttle and not crashing

>>17684346
how is opening the throttle going to make anyone crash?

>>17684375
panic, hit the brakes and lock up or just panic and swerve to the side of the road

>>17684289
>It definetly would give me more confidence.

The flaw here is you know nothing so your confidence metrics are questionable at best.

Want to get good? STUDY what is proven then PRACTICE what is proven. Riding is not intuitive (neither is driving).

Fuck what you think. Destroy or abandon all your preconceptions then approach learning with an open mind.

If worried, don't begin on a sportbike. (Sportbike autists hate everything else so ignore them.) Find something small and docile then use that to see if you like motorcycling. Motorcyclists go through many motorcycles over a lifetime. Keep what you like, sell off what you don't.

>>17684375

You could loop it if it's a strong enough engine. Most people aren't that retarded but some are.

The risk of starting on a supersport isn't necessarily the bike itself, it's that new riders easily get overconfident and ride beyond their skill. And on a 600 you can end up going a lot faster than you should before you realize it..

However, this is America, you do what you want. If a new rider wants to start on a fuckin BOOSA BRUH I'm not gonna stop them. Semper Fi, roll Tide, you do you brother.

>>17684420
If you are capable of panic you shouldn't operate a motor vehicle let along a motorcycle.

Your personality should be such that you can respond with urgency but if you are the sort of person who can freak out, you don't need a motorcycle because you aren't emotionally stable.

Not everyone should be on a bike. IMO anyone who doesn't strongly feel they belong on two wheels in the first place should find another hobby. The world is flooded with motorcycle operators already and, unlike when it was an outsider culture, every retarded nigger buys a bike then raises my insurance rates by crashing.

>>17684184
Use your magnet on a stick retrieval tool.

>>17684446

He didn't really mean panic, he meant a survival reaction. Practice and knowledge is what prevents survival reactions. If a turn goes bad it's counter-intuitive to give it MORE gas, but it's generally true. "When in doubt, throttle out"

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>>17684270

Throttle Control IS riding a motorcycle. If you can't trust yourself with the throttle, you can't ride a bike. And you need to be able to use the throttle to maintain proper suspension.

As fucking corny as the acting is, watch Twist of the Wrist 2. Watch it again. Read the book. Read Proficient Motorcycling (get it on Amazon). Understand how motorcycles work, and you'll feel more confident.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni2a2zUia_A

(deleted and reposted to change youtube link to the one with the corny acting not abridged because it's funny)

>>17683690
>noobs cannot into throttle control

when i was new, throttle control was literally the easiest part. wrist in line with or below the bar (or else it gets numb in 3 seconds), hand at an angle to the bar (or else it gets numb from being at an awkward angle. all bars are angled). i hit potholes, i sneezed, and i never whisky throttled except when i almost dropped the bike doing a U turn (clutch in of course) trying to hold it up from the throttle side of the bars

>>17684270
A stock WR450f purchased in the USA market has a long throttle stop screw to do exactly what you are proposing. Most folks bin it immediately and put a standard length one in or cut the original down.

It will work to reduce power on a more powerful bike.

Whether it is a good idea or not for you is completely subjective. If you were able to accomplish it on your bike easily I'd think you would also remove it within a week or two or riding. It's not that difficult to get the concept of using the throttle.

>>17684535

A lot of new bikes also have rider modes that smooth the throttle but someone this nervous probably isn't going to go for something like a recent model year street triple as their first bike

>>17684463
I'm just saying, I've watched many bike crashes on youtube that could be prevented if throttle could be limited.

>>17684543
Oh but I wanted to get an mt09 as the first bike actually. I'm a very careful person while driving cars but I also would like to get something I like visually. Also traction control and ABS and slippery clutches are nice add-ons bigger bikes have.

>>17684570
or just dont get a litrebike with no experience.

jesus christ some people...

>>17684586
you are an idiot

>>17684609
how so? is there a beginners bike with the same features?

>>17684617
almost every bike has ABS these days, slipper clutches are a meme and traction control is certainly not needed if you dont ride like you are on a track.

>>17684617

Honda's CB500 series has ABS. As do the other naked bikes in a similar price range. Lots of bikes released within the past few years have ABS that aren't super sports.

>>17684617
You'll end up a shit rider incapable of handling a bike in hairy situations. Learn to ride first on a shit bike.

>>17684617
You ought to know how to brake properly instead of relying on ABS.

>went to Montreal for the long weekend
>got stuck in several traffic jams on the highway
>in 5th and 6th gear, bike has an odd new vibration
>sprocket and chain look fine, though chain needs to be adjusted and regreased
Did I just nuke my transmission?

>>17684716

Nobody said anything about relying on ABS but it's absolutely stupid to choose to not have it if you have the option and can afford it easily.

>>17684724
Why would idling in traffic fuck up your transmission?

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how hard can I use the front break? how do you work out where the limit of traction is?

Few weeks ago i was on some twisties and was coming to the end of the run, saw my turn off, hit the front break and slowed from probably 80 to 20, but overshot my left turn my a meter or two and was turned slightly left (with the breaks still on) ... wheel slid out from under me and scraped along for 2m maybe.

Obviously shouldnt have tried to turn at all and let off the breaks but it's knocked my confidence - how do i find the limit of traction?

>>17684731
Very high idle, stomping from neutral to first.

>>17684738
Which wheel lost traction and slid?

>>17684668
>>17684716
You can't be an experienced rider if you crash and die.
I'd say ABS isn't necessary. I haven't owned a bike with it yet. But it is good to have, and you can still learn to not rely on ABS on a bike with it.
Just pull the fuse, dingleberry. See how that effects your riding. When it gets wet, pussy out and put it in. Done like dinner.
>>17684731
Because I overgeared it to keep the revs down while moving to conserve heat, and having to cycle through every gear every time we stopped was a pain.
There were times where I was in 5/6 at like 20kph. There were times when I turned the bike off and walked because it was that fucking slow.
>>17684739
Thankfully I'm not that bad.

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>>17684746
Front wheel, i wasnt using the rear brake really

>>17684730
If youre a new rider and you buy a new street bike that most likely doesnt have the option to turn off ABS, your not going to be able to brake properly without it.

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I'm thinking about building a custom exhaust for my FZ6 after I chop the subframe and since I'm putting on slip ons without a resonator, I don't think they'll be quiet enough with a straight pipe.
What would flow better, a straight pipe or a glass pack muffler? Or should I keep the catalytic converter?
Pic is the mid pipe with cat

>>17684750
Sounds like you lugged the shit out of it, still that wouldnt effect the transmission.

Was it aircooled, or is your bike just prone to overheating?

>>17684764

You realize ABS doesn't kick in under normal circumstances, right? If you brake properly you'll never even realize you have it.

>itt poorfags who try to convince themselves that proven safety features are bad

>>17684738
Find a long, straight road with no traffic. Accelerate to a given speed, press front brake for a second, look at your speed. Repeat until your front wheel slips. By releasing after a short time, your wheel gets traction back and the bike will right itself. Repeat for different speeds.
Keep in mind that traction varies wildly with tire temperature, tire compound, ground and ambient temperature. Never ride at or close to 100% on public roads, leave that for the track.

>>17684773
If you keep the cat you would likely not need a retune, and if your subject to emissions youd be in the clear.

Even if you get more power with a straight pipe you could loose low and midrange power from a loss of back pressure for exhaust scavenging

>>17684776
It's liquid cooled and it's not really prone to overheating so far. But I also baby it and avoid traffic jams like the plague because the human overheats too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE59MMDGW2Q

>67hp

I'm looking to buy my first bike and would rather have something I can keep for a while instead of getting a 300 and selling it after a year or two.
Would a CBR500R be a good choice?

I'd really like a street triple eventually, but I know it'd be a really dumb idea to get one as a first bike.

>>17684784
>knowing how to brake to the threshold of traction is bad

I never claimed ABS is bad, just that a new rider ought not to buy a brand new bike with a suite of electronic assistants that can act as a crutch.

>>17684716
nobike who has no idea how ABS works.

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>>17684805
>Would a CBR500R be a good choice?

Yes. Watch some review videos, see what you think. It's a beautiful bike and if you like the sport styling I think you'll be happy with it. I ride the naked version and it's fun as fuck, though I am probably going to upgrade to a 600cc supersport in the next couple years when I save up some money.

>>17684820

Meant to include a review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC2z8M9u5Fw

>>17684795
Fair enough, the only thingnyou were really being hard on was the engine itself and the clutch, unless its super bad id just keep on riding and see if anything else happens.

>>17684802
>67 heritage power

>>17684789
Or, have a bike with ABS and do the same routine. When you feel the brake pulse you have also found the limits of the tires without risking a front tuck.

>>17684813
>t. Retard who cant find the utility in riding without electronic nannies

>>17684807
The standard argument around here is " don't buy a new bike because you'll drop it "

>buys new bike with ABS, doesn't drop it.

>>17684838
Wrong, ABS by definition has to step in BEFORE the front tire is blocked.

>>17684802
Why doesn't' HD make more powerful engines? Vtwins aren't inherently weak, what's the deal? Are they content with mediocrity?

>>17684802
>talking shit about cigars

What a plebian.

>>17684830
That's my plan. I'm going to do a once over on the bike. Chain and tires, see if that dispels the gremlin. It's probably nothing serious. If I was being hard on the engine, there's not much I can do anyway.

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>>17684848
Oh yeah you got me good...fucker

>nobike

>>17684794
I actually have a straight pipe with slip ons and a custom tune at the moment so I don't think back pressure is a huge issue. I plan on selling my current system to fund this project. I'll be shortening the exhaust by about a foot so Im wondering if anyone knows what would benefit the bike more - cat, glass pack, or straight pipe.

Wait what the fuck that was only an MT 07 I rode today.
I was wondering why it wasn't such a big jump in power from my A2 shitbike.
REEEE

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>>17684862
Yeah, really lughing the engine is only really bad if you do it a shitload.

What bike anyway?

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>>17683824
Like 4 000 km. Had about 12 000 km on my 125, which was new when I got it.
23 000 km on my 50cc scooter, which had around 10 000 km when I got it.

Yeah the kms racked up pretty fast even on the slow bikes when I had no other means of transportation. Now I cage way too much... 370 000 km on the cage.

>>17684805
GS500

>>17684869
>before the limit is at the limit
Man you should like get into MotoGP with your superior grasp of when the bike is at its limits.

>>17684851
ABS detects wheels slip

> step in BEFORE

Hurr durr fucking derp

>>17684855
clinging to antiquated engine designs mostly.

Pushrods with hydro-tappets cant rev very high, keeping the engines air-cooled for the most time prevented higher compression etc...

>>17684855
>Why doesn't' HD make more powerful engines?
Because Harley owners keep buying them and insisting torque is better.
>Are they content with mediocrity?
Yes. That is Harley's legacy.

>>17684866
If its already tuned for straight pipes you may as well do straights again.

You going shorter to shed weight?

>>17684851
Man what is with the ABS hate on this general?

>>17684894

/o/ is full of poorfags who think they're street rossi and will never, ever fuck up. Also nobikes

>>17684864
>ill call him a nobike because I cant think of anything else to say

Top zozzle

>>17684882
Ackshyually, ABS detects when wheel speed differs from the expected value by a set amount. You see, even when your wheel isn't blocked, it's still slipping a little bit, turning slower than the road is going by underneath it. Same is true of the rear wheel; even if you don't do a proper burnout the rear will wear out in the middle if you launch all the time, because the rear is slipping without sliding.
ABS steps in when the slip is so great that the wheel is close to blocking. That's when it steps in.

>>17684894
ABS isn't bad per se, I just want people to understand what it does and doesn't do. I agree with this anon though >>17684807
Learn to ride without the nannies, then add them as convenient.

>>17684866
>dbt is full of engineers

>>17684851
You don't really know how ABS works, do you? It doesn't have magical crystal ball of skids, it senses when the tire is not spinning anymore and then releases brake pressure to get it spinning again.

>>17684901
I have nothing against ABS for street riding, but you have to be realistic about what it actually does and what it cannot do.

>>17684906
>when wheel speed differs from the expected value by a set amount

Sooooo slipping, got it.

>>17684914
>It doesn't have magical crystal ball of skids
Correct. It simply measures front wheel speed and translational speed, calculates the difference and decides whether that difference has passed a threshold. If that is the case, it reduces the brake pressure.
>It senses when the tire is not spinning anymore
Wrong, it steps in before that. You'll find that real life isn't digital, there are intermediate steps between "wheel is turning as fast as it should" and "wheel isn't turning at all". In fact, there's an infinite number of intermediate steps. And here's the kicker: "wheel is turning as fast as it should" and "wheel isn't turning at all" are not even actual states of the wheel (while the bike is moving), it's always slipping juuuuuust a little bit.

>>17684924
Slipping is not the same as blocking.

>>17684924
slip=/="blocked"
>>17684906
How would you define "expected value", when you have two wheels and both are being used to brake heavily?

>>17684906
so learn to ride without ABS and possibly die because of a bad braking? sorry but doesnt make sense

>>17684866
>what would benefit the bike more
>FZ6
just get a better bike desu

>>17684802
>talks shit about the sportster engine while praising the abortion that is the twincam

There is nothing wrong with a sportster.

>>17684935
That one I'm not 100% certain about, truth be told. I think there was an explanation in the book I read last winter but I can't recall.

>>17684938
Just don't ride like a fucking retard. Leave enough margin for error, travel at appropriate speeds and you're golden.

>>17684933
I know, I just tried to keep it simple. On some old car ABS designs you can actually see the wheel being locked and released.

>>17684960
you can do the same thing with a bike that has ABS and not crash incase you fuck up. and youll know because ABS will kick in(99% close or whatever)

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>>17684890
Weight and to flow with the design I'm shooting for. I plan on making the bike a tracker/cafe racer so I'm cutting the subframe at about the midpoint of the rear wheel and going with another slipon.
You can see where the exhaust leads up right by the rear shock. I bought a 2007 laser xtreme system off ebay and plan on just using the end pipes

>>17684957
there is nothing right with harley engines in general

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>>17684977

>>17684967
>not crash in case you fuck up
Or just learn how to handle the front wheel blocking. It's not like a bike suddenly turns upside down and catches on fire and rapes you in the ass as soon as the front is blocked. You can just release the lever and that's it.

Without ABS you learn to judge the point when the front starts slipping too much and release brake pressure on your own. Basically your right hand itself is the ABS. The big plus of learning to do that is that you can hop on non-ABS bikes and not crash if you have to brake hard. If you learned on an ABS bike, your muscle memory will tell you to just grab a fistful of brake and not let go until you're stopped. Do that on a non-ABS bike and you WILL shrek yourself.

>>17684969
That's gonna look pretty cool.

>>17684986
>If you learned on an ABS bike, your muscle memory will tell you to just grab a fistful of brake and not let go until you're stopped.
boomers actually believe this

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>>17684949
Yeah that's the long term plan but I really enjoy tinkering with what I have for now.
>>17684991
Thanks. Pic is that I'm aiming for exhaust-wise except it'll be under the seat

>>17683681
>I've been offered a CB125E for $1200 AUD (950 usd), with only 2000KM and new tyres. Is this a good deal? I know its a slow bike but I wanna get a cheap bike that won't cost a lot to maintain or insure. Cheapest decent 250's all seem to be at least ~2500 where I am and they all have higher KM's
avoid entirely. Yes the cb125e is probably the cheapest bike you can buy but they are horribly slow and handle very poorly.

if youre looking at a bike for delivering food and not getting into motorcycling, go for it. at that point, just get a scooter for cheaper and enjoy the extra luggage space.

if you want to get into motorcycling, avoid it. cheap bikes do come up every now and then, especially older dirt bikes. If you buy one of these, make sure it is ADR complied so it can actually be registered.

Otherwise, just get a ragged out ninja250. theyre better than the cbr250r and still very reliable. After buying it do a full service of all fluids and filters and enjoy your glorious shitbike. Theyre still somewhat fast for a learner and are great for practising cornering.

If you can, look for a 250cc 4cyl. They are named:
- honda hornet 250 / cb250f (naked)
- honda cbr250rr / mc22 (supersport)
- suzuki bandit / gsx250f (naked)
- kawasaki balius /zr250 (naked)
- kawasaki zx2r / zxr250 (supersport)
- yamaha zeal 250 / fzx250 (naked)
- yamaha fzr250 (supersport)

any of these are very reliable, but avoid kms over 50-60,000, especially if they seem to be unserviced. They are also significantly better sounding and a touch more powerful than the ninja 250. Great starter bikes, just make sure you fit because they have small frames. They sometimes go cheap too, especially the naked models as less people know about them.

t. a guy who owned a honda hornet 250 as his first bike and loved every minute of it

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>>17685019
VREM VREM

>>17685019

$1200 AUD is a very good price for it though.

And "very slow" is relative. For non-highway use it's quick enough.

>>17684906
>slipping without sliding

You are arguing a semantic and contradicting yourself.

ABS detects a specific amount of slip for the given condition. Modern systems measure this over 200 times a second. The basis on how it works IS THE TIRE SLIDING an amount that will put you on your ass.

Early ABS on bikes was pretty slow to do this and you could feel the tire locking and unlocking the frequency was so low. Modern basic ABS systems do the exact same fucking thing just at a higher frequency so it is almost undetectable to the rider but it is still a yes/no ( open the ABS pump/close the ABS pump ) value to the ABS computer.

>>17684960
>Leave enough margin for error, travel at appropriate speeds and you're golden

I can see the future with absolute certainty of the outcome.

>>17683711
>This guy drunk, stolen bike, wanted criminal, or what?

>have crash
>be embarassed
>luckily unscathed and just want to gtfo before i have to pay for an ambulance and have the cops questioning me about speeding etc
>all these cunts trying to stop me even though im fine
>try riding off but cos im a manlet drop the bike in soft sand as i try to turn the front wheel
>some fag takes my key. why.jpg
>ask for it back and leave out of embarrassment
>ride away and pull into a side road to stop and have a break in peace

>>17684986
And this is why MotoGP riders never get it wrong on a preped track surface. They learned on a shitbike.

>>17685036
>arguing a semantic
This might come as a shock to you, but in a technical context semantics are pretty fucking important.
>ABS detects a specfic amount of slip
That's precisely what I said.
>IS THE TIRE SLIDING an amount that will put you on your ass.
Wrong, the tire is sliding a minuscule amount ALL THE TIME unless you're literally at equilibrium -- neither accelerating nor decelerating. There is a certain point at which the traction between wheel and ground will sharply decrease and the wheel will (almost) stop spinning. We call that "blocking", and that is what ABS (anti blocking system) prevents by reducing the brake pressure BEFORE that threshold is reached.
Incidentally, even if your front wheel is blocked, you will not be guaranteed to fall over. In fact, I've stopped safely WITH A BLOCKED TIRE on three seperate occasions this season alone -- by choice. On several other occasions, I've blocked and unblocked the rear tire without losing control and without stopping.
>it is still a yes/no ( open the ABS pump/close the ABS pump )
True. However, opening and closing the "ABS pump" is done BEFORE the front tire is blocked.

>>17685051
If your speed is appropriate to the situation, any incident which results in locked brakes will either not be avoidable even with ABS, or will be nonlethal.

>>17685023
Aloha snackbars got to him

RIP

>>17685067
They do learn on shitbikes.
They get it wrong on a preped track surface because that is literally what tracks are for -- pushing the bike to its absolute limits, without having to leave room for error.
You will notice how hardly any MotoGP riders have died in the past decades, and how none of those casualties could have been avoided by ABS.

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>>17685075

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About to take the Illinois motorcycle license test lads. Wish me luck.

>>17685075
>ABS (anti blocking system)

It's Anti lock ( or Anti skid ) Braking System.

>>17685141
Locking == Blocking != Slipping

>people are now categorizing anything resembling a dirt bike as "sumo"
this seriously triggers my autism
ree

>>17685235
Bike classifications have always been rather fluid.
Any bike is a sumo when you twist the throttle at grass.

>>17684636
>if you dont ride like you are on a track.
But if I don't autismos will make fun of my tendies

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>>17685250
Why not just say "dual sport" or at least "dirt bike" though? This is clearly not a supermoto.

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>Husqvarna SM 610 near me for £1000
>looks REALLY SHIT

hmmm would it be possible to make this look good?


He even has the advert titled as 'motor bike' ffs

https://www.gumtree.com/p/husqvarna-motorbikes/motor-bike/1259705674

>>17685302
>would it be possible to make this look good?
not really

shit weather in most of europe for next 3 days
where the fuck do I go? distance doesn't matter too much

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>>17685302

>>17685299
Sumo goes on road and dirt
Dual sport goes on road and dirt
If a KLR, BMW GS, and Vstrom are in the same category, despite the KLR being more dirt oriented in riding position, the term is pretty flexible.
If anything a KLR has more in common with the sumos than the other two bikes, despite it being much heavier than sumos.

>>17685299
>that happy little flag flapping in the wind during a jump
This is about as 'merika as you can get. The only thing better would be an evil-black-rifle slung across his back.

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thoughts?

2007 and he wants 2900 pounds or 3700 dollars

>>17685409
The only people who would be faggots enough to open carry while riding are the same people who wear skid lids and no gear on a Harley Davidson.
The only thing Harley needs to do to complete this is a crossover H-D brand AR-15 and a Colt brand scary black rails edition Softail.

>>17685124
i believe in you

if you did your homework you'll be a ok

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anyone in Austria starting this weekend? I wanna ride the Silvretta Pass, Stelvio Pass and 2 others more eastwards.

>>17685524
You're 2 weeks late for SEM.

>>17685431
sumos are just so fucking overpriced.

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>it will neverever look like that ;_;

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why did japs give up on Vtwin sport-bikes?

>>17685524
>this weekend
I hope you're trolling or you JUST missed the niggest meet

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>>17685685

>niggest meet

Why would that take place in Austria and not Atlanta?

>>17685524
I might be hitting the Stelvio on Sunday, but probably a bit later. How long you around there?

>>17685693
Because italians

>>17685602
I fucking love underseat exhausts, why did tha go out of fashion?

Also has a kickass promo video that one, check out how he holds the line 100%.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAmnWh6rHHI

>>17685524
Fuck Stelvio, Umbrail is better and less crowded desu

>>17685812
Because dirt gets flung up and sticks onto them because the fenders are often comical

>>17685653
They are shit compared to i4s

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>>17685812
also how easy he throws it around, it seems to weigh almost nothing.

This thing could be the 2-cylinder semi-sumo with reasonable maintenance schedule we all have been waiting for.

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>>17685840
they are different yes

>>17685812
Plz don't think this was a single take. Not saying hes not good, before you get all fussy

>>17685852
>high strung sumo
>reasonable maintainance
Choose one
The sxv has really good times, It's just that once the hours are up you need to check double the stuff

>>17684855
They could. Buell took sportster engine and tuned it correctly. Look how much they appreciated that.

Harley has a severe case of engine destressing. Honda will catch up soon though.

>>17685531
The fun makes them worth it goy

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How do I get these fuckers out without damaging them

>>17686015
>cmon baybuh
>twist and shout!

>>17685918
i dont like this meme, sure its pretty highstrung but the actual road-ready bike is sold held back a bit, its literally like every other supermoto. Unless you get the racespec one youre fine, stop spreading shitty memes.

Being picky sucks.
I want to buy my first bike and I'd like to have a 30 year old dual sport.
There was a nice Yamaha Tenere that I really wanted but it got sold.
Are there any nice ones out there that aren't as big as 750 Africa Twins?

>>17686021
The little tard washer seems like it needs to be bent, its already off the bike m8, im trying to remove the whole thing

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>>17685750
friday evening till sometime next week. maybe Wednesday or Thursday

>>17685409
I did ride to range like that once and it was uneventful.

>>17685431
What are those plastic flaps on the tank for?

>>17686058
Channels air into the radiators / protects them

>>17684935
Infer deceleration from speedo data, brake pressure front and rear, compare with reference data applying to those parameters.

>>17685602
>>17685812
so obviously le shit KTM reliability is a meme for a reason but are they actually starting to get their shit together now? their bikes look snazzy but i don't want to buy one if it's gonna be a turd

>>17686078
Speedo data gives wheel rotation speed.
Actual speed can be measured with an accelerometer. Sure there's drift but it's not too much.

>>17686097
Oh yeah shit of course, I forgot about that.

>>17686105
Add MEMS gyroscope and a few German engineers and it's cornering ABS!

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>cut flaps of rubber into nigger-rigged rubber washers for baiku

>>17686031
KLRs and honda XL line up and the other jap equivalents.

A 750 AT woulf be bretty cool tho.

>>17685014
Unders seat exhausts are sex famalam.

Good starter bike for a 6'4 200 pound guy?

I feel like I'm gonna look like a clown on a Nighthawk or something.

>>17686015
turn left

>>17686032
the washer on the back side is meant to hold the finger screw on the airbox cover so you don't lose them. It's not meant to come apart.

>>17686196
any liter

>>17686084
Ive never had any issue with any of my ktms.
Never understood why people call them unreliable

>>17686196
Youre gonna need a dual sport, adv, or cruiser ya freak.

>>17686084
It's almost guaranteed it will have some "quirks," whether it breaks down or not.
I've always thought it was funny when reading about their LC8 street bikes how they always had serious weird issues but the owners just mention it casually like it's nothing.

>>17685602
too bad its ugly and ptwin sounds like shit

>>17685531
Overpriced as much as overrated.

>>17686276
you dont even know how it will sound.

>>17686175
I like the kawasaki one but the tank capacity is kind of ehh.
Can't drive a 750 AT because of my A2 license and 650 ATs are not so common and expensive

>>17686288

I think if you have a lot of friends with sumos it would be a lot of fun to hoon around on them. Otherwise I'd pass.

Or if you had kids and took them out dirt biking, a sumo might be worth having.

>>17686293
i heard it in the video. sounds like any other ptwin.

>>17683671
FZ 09 owner coming from a 950cc cruiser. Not scary at all and a heck of a lot of fun. Totally not a noob bike for sure. Not the power so much as the twitchy throttle.

>>17686319
FI bikes have a bad habit of being twitchy on a lot of maps. It makes me miss carbs.

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>tfw fixing up meme bikes with impossible to find parts is the only thing that gets you off

>>17686310
thats a prototype. Also it sounds kinda like a crossplane to me.

>>17686336
My first bike was an 86 Nighthawk 650 so I remember the smoothness. EFI isn't bad on cruisers for obvious reasons, but coming out of corners in 2nd on the FZ you get really good at easing the throttle.

What's up guys wr anon here

>>17686336
It's the throttle by wire that does it.
If throttle is controlled by cable EFI has no choice but to obey. But give computer throttle control and it's going to make you his bitch.

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>>17684636
I'm actually curious about traction control in the rain. Been thinking about staying small for my 250-*** upgrade, but if it works well the only other real reason is gas mileage.

How 2 get tuv without having to suck dick

>>17686296
That sucks man, im pretty happy I could just buy a 1000cc cruiser without jumping through those kind of hoops.

>>17686408
no 50-80€ available in your pocket? did you spend all of it on anime dolls again?

Is it possible to switch a bike's rear suspension? I've got a classic 1988 Yamaha Radian, and those have dual shock absorbers on either side of the back end. Now they look nice. But the ones Yamaha put on didn't do a good job, even in the time. The bike was known for bad handling and yeah, it shakes like a bull at times.
So is a monoshock swingarm design better than a dual shock?
I don't know of any sport bikes nowadays that use dual shocks at the rear wheel hub. This is why I'm thinking of this conversion.
I know anything's possible with a bit of fabrication and a lot of money. But would I be better served by picking up a pair of modern Ohlins for the ass and swapping out the front shocks?

>>17686415
Wr is not working lol I have no job

>>17686408
simple, suck two dick

>>17686421
Conversions like thay are certaintly possible, but it will require extensive modification or more likely a full replacement of the swing arm.

Buying better shocks would be way cheaper.

>>17686450
Im no fag doe

>>17686458
As long as you don't enjoy it, it isn't gay. Just do what you gotta do.

>>17686398

Why is she filling the gas tank with Martini & Rossi Dry Vermouth?

>>17686458
hey man, five dollars is five dollars

Anyone here use nitrous in their bikes? Thoughts on it?

Is it a fucking terrible idea and will you die from it?

>>17686461
>>17686465
True

>>17686408
>make sure brakes and lights work.
>have the ABE papers ready if you got certain aftermarket parts.

thats about it.

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>>17686467
A custom shop made Miracle Mike out of a mostly stock indian scout.

The only thing really done to increase speed was nitrous.

http://www.pipeburn.com/home/2017/06/16/playing-chicken-nitrous-indian-scout-sprinter-young-guns.html

>>17686467
But why

>>17686398
>girl rolling a tire along the ground
>has a screwdriver in her mouth
>holding the blade by the teeth
>with the point in her mouth
Now that's just bad shop safety. That's only the first thing I noticed. No kneepads? That's asking for problems. And exposed skin? Why would you want to get dirty like that? You just spent all that time shaving your legs and you're going to be such a slob that you don't even dress to work on the bike? And if she falls, she'll have a screwdriver poking through her cheek. Lovely.
Also no boots or protective shoes.
And fuelling up inside a shop? What if the gas flashes? There's also no point to fuelling up inside the bay unless you're testing the engine. Something that's usually not done at the same time as switching out a rear tire.
And the lady in the racing suit? What ever happened to absorbing sweat? That's gonna chafe and cause skin infections.
Also all this unnecessary techno-shit lying on the ground where people can trip on it. I know the artist needed to fill the frame. But another motorcycle would do that.

Also, a double sided swingarm on a supposedly futuristic bike. That's a fucking massive chunk of metal back there. It looks partially bowed or hollow, but engineers already figured out the curving double sided swingarms on most new bikes. And single sided swingarms exist and look more future. Shoulda done that.

The frame looks unnecessarily overbuilt. And it's hollow tubes, which aren't as rigid as trellis frames or even more futuristic stress bearing engines and transmissions.
Also, 1986 called. They want their fairings back.
Also, you usually put tires on a bike long before the five minute mark. At that point, most riders are sitting and waiting on the grid. Not dialling in their last tuneups.

Oh and you really should have the axle off before you put the rear tire back on.

0/10, would not race with.

>>17686467
when would you even use it?

>"hey im riding this 100hp+ bike in its powerband rev range and Im running through gears like crazy while holding on for dear life but hell i wish i could get a sudden boost for some extra 50!

said noone ever.

>>17686492
>200kg
>150hp
Oh damn that's impressive!

>>17686506
>americans need nitrous for that.

>>17686506
For a dead stock cruiser with a nitrous bottle plumbed in thats not bad, plus they won the race . . .

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>>17686493
To go F A S T E R

>>17686456
Modern Ohlins it is, then!
The reason this even came up is that a friend noted I could buy an FJ600 or an FZ600 for replacement parts. Both of those have mono shocks on the rear. But since the engine bolts in without issues, I got the idea that I might be able to swap the rear swingarm.

That's probably not possible, like you said, unless I do a lot of modifications. The Radian's a double cradle frame, the FZ is it's own thing, and the FJ's looks kinda similar in images, but it might not be the same. And there'd be no point to having two mounting points for shock absorbers on the same frame to use on two different bikes.

>>17686525
If there is a bike that shares really similar architecture that has a single shock swingarm, you can cheeck if the swing arm could bolt right in, then youd just have to fab a beefed up shock mount on the frame.

Reguardless of how easy it is, its most likely cheaper to toss on a set on Ohlins.

>>17686197
Damn, if I want to replace it do I just need new to buy new ones then?

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>>17686525
dual shocks are perfectly fine but you should look into new bearings first. The stock ones are made to fit loosely since fitting them properly would take a lot of time during production. A Good mechanic can get proper ones and eliminate all play your swingarm might have which does a lot for handling.

after that get modern shocks (probably not Öhlins because they cost more than your bike)

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>>17686498

In short
>women in a shop

>>17686421
Rather than go through all that shit, spend a bunch of money and get a very small improvement, sell it and get something better.

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Where did dbt ride today?

>>17686506
>>17686508
Can euros not read, the bike had a power to weight at 1:1 and it beat all competitors including a custom BMW 1000rr

>>17686604
Unfortunately nowhere worked my ass to exhaustion at work then came home to a downpour

>>17686596
This is always an option.
But how many bikes have a brass plated cylinder cover and enough chrome to pass as a cruiser, while still being a standard naked bike?
>>17686580
Given that my bike's a dirt cheap parts box special, this is correct. Bearings, proper rear shock adjustment. I'll see about those first.

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>>17686604
to hell

>>17686625
liked

>bike says 18 litre capacity
>regularly fit about 22 litres in it

Is this dangerous? the petrol is basically brimmed around the edge.

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>>17686604
To work in the rain, back home, and to and from work again in the rain.

Who /bikeonly/ here?

>>17686676
The fuel could expand with heat, and spill out of the overflow/breather

>>17686276
I've got a 2008 690 Duke with 10K miles, and the only issue is a fuel level sensor I need to replace. Its a $20 part.
My friend has a 990 Super Duke R, and has had no problems at all with that bike either, despite thrashing it at numerous trackdays and on long street rides and multi day tours.
The only quirky, annoying things I have found about KTM's is their oil filters. There's a shitload of them, and they are annoying to change.

>riding bike today
>absolutely shocking rain pissing it down
>never seen wet like this before
>the road is basically a shallow river
>come off roundabout
>get this weird sensation that the rear wheel is 'drifting' over to the right

Did I aquaplane? Did I narly die?

>>17686604
>tfw lost my key

>>17686721
No aqua planing feels un natural as fuck you will know when you have done it. it was slipping on a slippery surface.
also you don't know heavy rain until it has rained so hard that you literally can not see 10 meters in front of you.
even cars have to stop driving when it rains like that where i live.

>riding today
>Stacy shoots out of her driveway in reverse 15feet in front of me
>she stops in middle of road out of shock

I nearly died today m8s, thank fuck I slammed on the brakes the second I saw movement

>>17686753
idk what it is about people not looking out driveways when they are pulling out.
people do it to me when i drive my truck even.

>>17686676

Not really. If anything, it's pouring out of the overfill tube onto the street.

>>17686676
What do you ride? Thats a massive tank

>>17686676
More wasteful than dangerous you are wasting about 4 litres of fuel down your overflow every time you fill up.

>>17686786
Not him, but my gsxr has an 18L tank (4.8 gallons)

Fuel light usually comes on when I've used ~3.5-4

>>17686786
18 is about average for a larger motorcycle. I get like 175km before my reserve comes on with a 18L tank, wish it was bigger.

>>17686845
>18L tank, wish it was bigger.
Yeah, when I eventually get a place with a garage, I'm gonna get a welder and fab up an extension for the tank under the seat.

>>17686786
18 is average, stop riding your faggot scrambler heritage shit.

>>17686807
wtf do you mean?

you're saying those 4 litres just disappear somewhere in the frame?

>>17686876
down the overflow yes which also generally does run through your frame and drip out under the bike.

>>17685602
I suppose if theres less bike theres less to break, good thinking there ktm

>>17686885
are you baiting me? Never heard of this overflow before.

>>17685602
Top half looks original and neat.
Bottom half looks like the guy designing the bike quit when he started there and they just called it finished.

>>17686922
it's usually one of the rubber hoses you see dangling into the bottom fairing (if you have a sportbike), but there is a air gap designed into the fuel tank, but it is designed that way so the fuel doesn't all spill out when you accelerate or brake.

>>17686922
Its not bait. Open your fucking tank. See those drain holes around the top of the filler neck? Extra gas, or water, or any fluid will run down there, thru some hoses, and out the bottom of the bike. Get underneath your bike, and you'll see several hoses, usually bundled together, poking outta somewheres. Those are the drain lines.

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>>17686922
not even memeing.
see the brim around the edge with a hole?
that is the overflow on my bike, if i fill it right up i will lose like a litre or two of fuel when going around corners for the first 50km or so.
yours may be different.

>>17686954
>>17686952
>>17686947

oh right nah I never fill past those holes.

>>17686960
by to the brim i mean below the hole there, i normally fill until the fuel is just over the divider you can kinda see inside the hole, just a waste otherwise

it's over

>>17686979
what? the thread?

>>17686982
soon™

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>>17686987
when?

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>Everyone says you need to ride the piss out of a 250/125 and go around blind corners (public roads) dragging your knee at the bike's top speed to be a good rider

Why not just get a 500/650 or weaker 600 and do track days on it? Wouldn't you git gud all the same, but without dying, or does a 250cc engine confer immunity to lowsides?

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>>17687014
Dragging your knee on the road is for retards.
Trying to drag your knee on the road is for noobs and soon to be hood ornaments.

Do a trackday with a racing school. Use their bikes. Its cheaper than ya think. Pictured, me 5 years ago getting back into shit on someone elses shitbox.

>>17687034
>he can't drag knee on road so he says it is for retards
just because you are such a shit rider that you can't do it without crashing doesn't mean everyone else can't, how else am i going to git gud for isle?

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>>17687041
Weak.

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>>17683717

>>17687041
>Can't
>Don't want to

You're at max lean angle and there's a broken down truck right in the middle of your line, nearly sideways in the road. The only way to dodge is to tigthen your line, but you're at max lean, with your knee scraping the pavement. All of a sudden, you wish you practiced emergency stops more than you practiced knee drags.

>>17683681
Of course you should buy it

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>>17687109

>>17687109

>>17687109