Name a better American luxury barge than the 96 fleetwood

A E S T H E T I C

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9J3jVlunQ6U

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>>17677643

>>17677639
I miss the b-bodies

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I can't.

>dat tow package

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>>17677639
>handbuilt, has power windows, six way power seats, transistorized radio, power vent windows, air suspension, central locking, air conditioning, automatic headlight dimmer, 345hp, bigger than 21st century condos, and costs more than a Rolls all in 1959

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>>17677639
The 86 Fleetwood of course

I hate GM but 1996 and before they were ok

>RWD v8 impalas / caprice
>roadmasters
and other rwd landyachts.

Post 96 its fwd v6 bullshit

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>>17677639

>Name a better American luxury barge than the 96 fleetwood

96 Fleetwood doesn't look enough like a spaceship. 57 Imperial.

>>17678552
they were ahead of the industry curve.

GM was always ahead of the curve. the Aztek alone predicted modern SUV design.

shame we didnt stop it before it was too late

>>17678510
Isn't that a '60?

>>17678602
YES

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>>17678602
dang

>>17678881
shit you're right, at least the pt cruiser didn't predict modern design though

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70s and 80s barges were a lot more comfy. The 90s Cadillacs are nice, but not nearly as cozy.

I drive a 92.

Also, Northstar is SHIT.

>>17680123
I drove a 90s seville with northstar in yurop since they are preety common cadillac model over here. The engine itself is great (even jeremy clarckson loved it) but the reliability really makes this engine look bad. Also sevilles are fucking great cars

>>17680260
When it comes to being a daily driver, reliability sits above all else. Horsepower doesn't mean anything if you've blown a head at 105k miles.

>name a better piece of shit

>>17680269
Yeah I get that but cadillacs and other v8 cars(especially american cars) in europe are almost exclusively weekend cruisers except the new ones. Thats why I wanted to buy it even though I know about engine problems.

>>17680328
Definitely check for a gasket leak then. Northstars are notorious for blowing heads.

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>>17678885

1959 Cadillac Brougham. It doesn't look like a 59 because it was modified by a third party like the Chevy El Morocco (pic related). They were special order. Only 99 were ever made and it's a very rare and valuable classic.

The Brougham was more or less the inspiration for the 60 Cadillac and was used as a template to tone down the more flamboyant design elements in the 59 model. Best way to identify it is the the windshield. The 59 and 60 both had the wrap around windshields, while the Brougham has a more conventional windscreen similar to what was used in the 61 and 62 Cadillacs. The reason it was ditched on the Brougham (and all models starting in 1961) was to make it easier to get in and out of the car.

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If Europa is so great, why don't they have luxury land barges?

>>17680271
Hit me with the memes bro! Meme it up. I'm sure you can come up with something.

>>17677643
Yeea boi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EigJD7T0AZc

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>>17681454

Because while the world was reeling from WWII, America was still high as fuck snorting the radioactive fallout from the nukes we dropped on Japan. What better way to assert your dominance in the world than having your citizens drive 19 ft long finned monstrosities while other nations had to be content with public transit, Vespa scooters, and tiny practical cars. Where of have we to have been because for? It's basically just a giant dick waving competition where size really doesn't matter because if your dick is bigger than ours, your argument is invalid because industrial superpower.

>>17681583
Let's also not forget that Europe's streets couldn't handle them. They're just too big here.

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>Cadillac

Disgust.png

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>>17680123
fuck yeah 70s cadillac

>>17680298
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>>17681484
So was "Triple Black" simply their standard color black or did they have a regular black and also a triple black?

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I'm a fan of the Imperial LeBaron.

>>17683922
If I had to guess that's referring to a black exterior, a black interior, and one more thing I don't know which.

>>17681454
Narrow streets.

>>17678552
Yeah. But they really didn't drive that nice. Other than just rolling down the highway, they were kinda sad. That's why honda accords and Yoda camerys took over. Pre 96 gm, ford, dodge were all RWD cars that handled like fwd cars and had 120 wheel horsepower.

>>17677643
sheeeeeeeeeeeeit

>>17681583
I like this

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I've had a hard on for 1st gen Panthers for as long as I can remember

>>17677643
if not the northstar engine those 90ies-2000s caddies would be nice. I would even get one in europe

>>17680328
install LPG bud.

>>17681454
what other anons said+ cuckery and love for diesels and the SUPERIOR EUROPEAN CARS feels, + insane gas costs. The lowest grade petrol you can get in EU is 95 octane, and yes it costs like 1.10 euro per liter, so that would be like 5 bucks a galon or so.

>>17679535
it predicted the quality

>>17684656
second gen town car is best town car though

>>17685087
I think lpg is pointless in my case. Im not concerned in fuel economy since its purpose wouldn't be DD but just a hoby vehicle. Its just that a few years back I could afford that caddy(always wanted one and Im a huge cadillac fan) but shortly after test drive a few financial troubles accured and I still haven't fully recoverd so thats the reason I cant buy it. The biggest expense would be insurance, taxes, and registration and I just dont have the money at the moment to pay more for the government bullshit yearly than the car itself is worth.

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I win.

Any Lincoln or Cadillac during their V12 and V16 eras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFT5y8USaFo

>>17685078
They sorted most of the engine problems later in the production(after 2000s) so if you can afford a dts or seville you would be probably alright. But when it comes to fleetwoods you can also find them with reliable 5.7l and (if Im not mistaken) a 4.9l.

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>>17684656
I used to really like them, after 10+ I started losing interest. Still have my Town Car though.

>>17684057
And black vinyl top

>>17684235
true, but a cadillac eldorado is roughly the size of a mercedes sprinter and people can drive sprinters here, it has a better turncircle though because the wheels are more on the corners

>>17688021
hnnnng

>>17689667
Same with S class and 7 series and other german big cars

>>17677643
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9J3jVlunQ6U

>>17691813
Damn i posted the wrong link

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rxd1BiuQ4VI

>>17681732
Especially great with the biggest production V8----> fucking 8.2 liter

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No love for the impala?

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>>17692922
My negroid, you're not alone. I'm considering getting one soon and stroking out the lt1 to 396

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chrysler 300m, the apex of egg shaped design

>>17692922
Yeah its great but not really luxury

>>17681630

Transit vans are fit down every hole that you could find in Europe.

I driver with skill could get an ameribarge most places.

I drive a Ram on roads designed for the average Jap car and the only problem I have is the 7 point turn it takes to get in and out of my yard.

Learn how to reverse park and your life is much easier.

>>17686895

>The biggest expense would be insurance, taxes, and registration

If you're in England then there is classic car stuff for this type of scenario. They are so cheap that your biggest expenses would be in keeping the thing running.

>I could have afforded it a few years back

I don't think you know what it is to actually afford something. Sure you could have purchased it, but not afford it.

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>>17695085

fuck its like an american au falcon

>>17695594
I'm from Slovenia so it has to be 30 years old to get classic car 90% discount on registration and insurance. And yes I could afford that car and all of the other expenses, the problem was I lost a substential amount of money 3years ago. In those 3 years taxes, insurance doubled or almost trippeled for cars with bigger engines than 4 litters and cars with horsepower figures above 200. Im still saving for the car but with bigger registration fees every year I just cant catch up. Also american cars are getting more popular therefore more expensive. Today I can purchase the car itself but I cant afford the running costs like I could 3 years ago so I know very well what means you can actually afford it.

>>17678534
Oh yes....

>>17684656
Oh yessssss

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>>17677639

1975 Cadillac Coupe de Ville.

>>17695085
These are comfy as fuck, I'd DD one if they didn't have such awful reputations for poor reliability.

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>>17696575
my heart is broken, my 300m died recently.well, not died... it needs a new camshaft sensor and new rear sway bar and new front control arms and new shocks and new tires

>>17696566
This is such a glorious machine a friend of mine in yurop is restoring one, even with the same red exterior coulor and white vinly top. Also has 8.2l beast of an engine

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9th gen Continental was comfy as fuck.

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>>17698063

dat digital gauge cluster

>>17698063
But not as good as the cadillacs of the same era

>>17698085

I've driven both a 99 Continental and a 97 DeVille extensively and prefer the Lincoln.

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idk why but I really like the 2008 lincoln town car, while it's not as large of a barge as others it's still got a classic look to it

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgKt6lCICuM

My 88 Town Car. Power windows, smoker windows, locks, and seats, 5 way sound with tape deck and optional CD player, automatic climate control, automatic headlights, digital dash with trip computer, 4 speed auto with automatic OD. Cushiony ride and automatic pull down trunk. 5.0 302 with lots of performance compatibility.

So when are 90s barges going to appreciate in value?

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>>17698426
I had an '85 Grand Marquis growing up with the red velvet interior. Even that was comfy as fuck.

>>17698758
i love the bench seat
comfy for DAYS
but why 2 turn signals?

>>17698772
One to turn right and one to turn left, dumbass

>>17698772
Think one was for the wipers and the other for turn signals and high beams.

>>17698758

Red velvet interiors need to make a comeback. They're comfy af. Bench seats too but I don't see that ever happening.

>>17695554
Where are you from man and what model year your car is

>>17698474
Hopefully soon, I hope the same happens with 70s and 80s barges aswell

>>17677639
basically any of them

mid 90s cadillacs were trash.

1996 Lincoln Town Car was far superior.

>>17698426
>5.0L v8

>150HP

how did they even get such a small amount of power out of 5.0L?

>>17701197
By not using a performance cam or heads/intake/exhaust.

>>17701197
The smog engines retained most of the torque though, so basically they drive like quiet diesels.