Michigan Thread

why don't we talk about the fact that the light on the top of the michigan cruisers look like something Gru's minions from despicable me would put on a vehicle and yell BEE-DO BEE-DO BEE-DO

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>>17665803
I guess it's cool that they're all about >muh heritage
but it looks like somebody left their jumbo sized gummy dot on the roof of the car

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>>17665803
>>17665821
Ah yes, the famed bubble gum light. It does look pretty ridiculous. And unnecessary too now that they are using LEDs. I dunno though, it doesn't hurt that much from the overall look. The MSP Chargers scare the shit out of me just by their aesthetics. I think the bubble gum light might even help make it scarier. I think it looked most ridiculous on Crown Vicorias.

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Does this MSP Gran Fury look nice?

>>17665732
>Where do the rest of you SE Michigan br/o/s go to drive for fun
North west of the rochester-hills area has some nice curves and hills, but they're all pretty short lived.
696 is fucking awful during the day, but hard for cops to hide on at night fyi.. Just keep your eyes open, impromptu rolling races almost every night.
>watch out for sportbikes going 150mph+

>woodward is only fun the first time.
Cops everywhere, cool cars but the commercial scenery gets boring fast.
As far as fun driving/riding roads, thats almost as much as ive been able to find.

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>>17666054
Yes, msp cars in general are top tier, the only problem is the stupid buttplug light

Cali cop cars are pretty boring by comparison, your standard black and white affair. The bike cops use bmw bikes that are aesthetic as fuck though.

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>>17666129
>696 is fucking awful during the day
No kidding.

>>17666148
Rear ended? Doesnt look so bad.

that cruiser looks gay as fuck

michigan is for homos

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>>17666169
Could have been worse.
>>17666179
Probably looks better than your states police cruisers.

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>>17666194

no.

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>>17666247
I don't know how you can even argue.

>>17666129

>696
696 is definitely entertaining at night if you drive fast enough. However, I have seen a lot of cops out there. And considering that in order to be fun you need to drive speeds that would have you arrested, it is too risky for me.

I guess Michigan just has no interesting roads to drive on.

I've only been to Michigan once and most of my stay was in the UP, but I had a lot of fun driving up and down the coast, right near the mackinac island ferry was cool but busy, driving at night in the UP is fucking maximum spook with all the trees though.

>>17666247
I love seeing those on the 401, they look awesome with the color scheme. When did they change over?

The UP is garbage for enthusiast driving if you're not a hick into mudding. The roads are atrocious and speed limits are still 55 almost everywhere.

>>17665732
Drive to Corktown don't have .5 million dollars for a loft apartment. Park a mile away because I don't want to look like I drove a car and not a local. Walk back to car after hanging out at coffee shops bars and the UFO. Car is gone because Detroit is there ghetto and even gentrification won't get rid of crime with blacks still around.

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>>17665836
KEK THAT TALL SINGLE LIGHT

COPS HERE WENT TO ULTRA THIN LED LIGHTBARS SO THEIR PROFILE ISNT SO OBVIOUS IN YOUR REAR VIEW, CATCH MORE SPEEDERS THAT WAY
PLUS LOTS OF UNMARKED CARS WITH NO LIGHTS ON THE ROOF AT ALL

THE 'STATE STOP POLICE' THING ON THE HOOD IS ALSO HILARIOUS

WTF MICHIGAN LEAST INTIMIDATING CRUISER IN THE COUNTRY

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>>17667644

The purpose of cops isn't to "catch speeders." They are supposed to protect and serve the public. Therefore, they should be very easy to pick out so someone seeking aid can find it quickly.

The MSP vehicles has by far one of the best designs/layouts in the country. It's hilarious watching people from lesser states trying to talk their way into slandering the MSP.

All I know is that the 2yr construction on 75 South is fucking over everyone in Detroit metro.

>>17667644
The unamarked cruisers make me paranoid as fuck. Driving 1.5 hours after buying a car with no license plate or current insurance was fun yesterday. Had to go slow but not so slow new cars would pass me.

>>17668287
Shit, I know that feel

I bought a car a while ago and drove it across three states overnight without plates or insurance. Scariest night of my life.

>>17665732
>What roads are best to drive on
>Michigan


Choose one

>>17667145

Years ago. They always used to be black and white, then they went with some faggot scheme for a few years before spending millions to change them all back/repaint them.

>>17665732
If you go to Detroit, Or even It's suburbs (redford, southfield). You BETTER be carrying

I was on 8 and greenfield rd just before new years and saw a car pull up to the bus stop near the plasma donation center and shoot and kill some dude sitting at the bus stop.

Broad day light, 11am on a Monday.

I don't even say the word Detroit out loud without carrying. Getting a CPL is not hard...

>>17667657
>The purpose of cops isn't to "catch speeders."

You should tell that to the other 49 states and all of Canada.

The purpose of cops, these days, is to fuck over the working class and take their disposable income.

>>17667677
>75 south onramp closed
>Take m59 detour to i75

FUCK

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>>17668615

Meh. I have lived in Southfield my entire life and have never had a problem or seen anything like t hat. Detroit, maybe, but in Southfield you should still be OK for now.

>>17668686
I know that feel. It's ok, just more time to enjoy our shitboxes, right?

>>17668902
Are you black?

>half of /o/ is Michigan

uuh 231 here, ludington meet up when lads

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>>17668908
Half--my dad is white, my mom is black. The majority of the people in my neighborhood are white though, granted I live in the Northermost part of Southfield, not down on 8 mile.

>>17669051
Post your skin shade, Can you still say nigga?

>>17668965
This. An M22 cruise in the fall would be comfy as fuark.

>>17668615
>shoot and kill some dude sitting at the bus stop.
I'd easily believe that if it's Chicago. Gangs stake out their territories and anyone not supporting them or witnesses talking to police get assassinated.

>>17669144
It's Detroit....It's bad, But not as bad as Chicago.


But seriously that did happen. Greenfield road is full of gang members, All the jewelers have stores on that road and It borders 7 mile (bloods territory).

Go into greenfield plaza on greenfield road and see for yourself. Whole building is full of jewelers (literally). People get shot and robbed weekly in that parking lot

Any Farmington fags here? I work for FH, so it's the city I know best.

>>17668902
I stopped taking 75 south to Detroit before they even started the construction. Taking the lodge is 100 times less stressful, and it's only slower by a couple minutes

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why is there never any MI meets?

>>17668615
Ive lived IN detroit all my life and never carried.
You dont get shot if you dont go around picking fights with the wanna be gangbanging kids.
Its nowhere near as bad as people think.
>>17669743
Because theres nothing to do outside of the D and people are too afraid to meet in the D.
>we should do a milan dragway meet tho.

>>17669929

Thank you. If you mind your own business and don't do anything horribly stupid, you will be fine. People exaggerate how bad it is by a lot.

>>17669929
>Because theres nothing to do outside of the D and people are too afraid to meet in the D.

You just stated perfectly why this area sucks. I hope to move out soon.

>>17669954
Summertime sucks because it is hard to hide the bulge of a CCW.

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SWMI checking in. 96 West stretch from GR down to 94 is a pretty notorious corridor for accidents and deaths. I had a close call a couple months ago with something that taught me to finally torque to spec.

>driving down 96 after work
>going 85-90 home cuz gotta shit
>hit massive pot hole
>hear the thump then a slight out of place clunk
>that don't sound good
>kept driving for a few miles before I start to hear a whirring sound
>pulled over before the Kzoo river
>get out to inspect the noise
>4 of my 5 lugs were missing
>3 studs completely snapped off
>one lug holding my wheel to the car going 85 down the highway maneuvering through traffic

I called my buddy up to come take me to AutoZone to grab lugs and studs, grab the shit, come back, realizing I don't have all the sockets I need in my toolbag. MSP and MDOT show up a few minutes after offering sockets and a flashlight. The trooper was relaxed and the MDOT guy was pretty patient. Both were surprised how I managed to drive for so long on such shitty studs. Pretty happy they showed up though.

A couple days later some guy on the radio called into 103.x-something talking about how he watched me speed down the highway with my tire wobbling in and out of my wheel well.

Never again will tight be tight.


Probably should redo the entire front end suspension on my Max, welded ball joints probably aren't the safest either.

>>17668585
This.

>>17665732
>I've thought of going into Detroit due to the lack of police presence
There are plenty of police but they protect the wealthy areas mostly. It's been a bitter complaint by various neighborhoods that have managed to avoid being totally depleted of residents due to white flight. Those neighborhoods are like oasis in the middle of blight zones.

Anthony Bourdain made a documentary video about Detroit. He's normally quite liberal and a big fan and supporter of increased diversity and refugee immigration from Africa, but even he was shocked:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLSSzQyJqlA

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>>17671457

You replaced your studs on the side of the road? How long did that take. That's usually no small job. Did you have to take off the hub and whatnot?

>>17671457


So do you think you undertightened or overtightened them? I heard that you usually can identify undertightened lug nuts because of the vibration long before they fail. Over tightened lugs on the other hand apparently will just snap unexpectedly and therefore are more dangerous.

Sounds like you did a good job getting yourself out of the situation safely.

>>17668686
>I wanna go to lakeside!
B-but the construction is a pain
>Do it you suck.
Then I whip into the turnaround at 45 mph for fun twists for 50 feet and she sceams.

Also, Gratiot "Cruise" Today, no classic for me but I'll drive around anyway.

>>17665732
I live in Chicago suburbs, but work for a CPA firm based out of Southfield actually, so im around there pretty often. From an outsiders view, its actually pretty great. Overall shit just seems to move better. There still the douche drivers, and probably a bigger lack of signalling, but people seem to be with it more. I think the 70mph speed limit is a big contributor. IDK why the fuck we still fuck with 55-60 MPH in CHI.

>>17672553
Yeah, I've only been to Chicago a few times and I agree the traffic is worse there for sure.

Just curious if there is an people in the 989 area who know some decent roads to cruise down.

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>>17672495
Ye. Wasn't terribly long, only about 35 minutes to get them on and tight. The whole hub did have to come off, no shortcutting it unfortunately.

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>>17672502
I'm fairly certain it was a mix of both. When the car was in pic related stage I forgot to tighten a few of the lugs when test driving, and I'm pretty sure I tore up a bit of the thread on some of the stock studs. Should have replaced them but never gave it a second thought. 8,000 miles later I had to anyway, lel.

The rest were probably overtightened as shit and at least 3 of them snapped right off.

Definitely going to be more cautious about that shit, I'd prefer to do that kinda work in the garage without semis passing two feet away in the wind.

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>>17672553
Traffic does suck during the day but cruising down 40 and 90 at night is pretty fun. A lot of the locals like to travel in packs at Mach speed. A lot of pic related too.

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>>17672886
M-55 if you like to hit deer and meet the Bad Axe MSP post.

any UP people have truck recs for snow plowing? gonna move there soon

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>>17674494
HOLY SHIT THIS PIC

>>17665732
I'm in Ann arbor for the summer and the traffic sucks in all directions
Roads are crap
that being said huron river road is a beautiful and fun road, just watch for cops

>>17676525
fag

>>17668615
>be me
>college student in Indiana
>volunteer for Democratic Party around election time (no particular candidate, just the party)
>we get bussed to Detroit to do voter registration
>get off at the Rosa Parks Bus Station downtown, which is the hub for all of the bus routes
>approach people on cocaine and ask them if they are registered to vote
>approach people with paper bags of alcohol and ask them if they are registered to vote
>approach angry looking man in a big, brown overcoat struggling to light his cigarette in the gusty, 20 degree wind, and ask him if he is registered to vote
>nothing sketchy happens
>never felt like my life was in danger, or any crap like that

Yes, Detroit is bad, but people don't just kill/assault randos for fun. I think that it's over-dramatized

I'm thinking about interning at the GM Tech Center in Warren next summer. I also might apply for some internships at the Renaissance Center, but I'd be lucky to get one there.

If I end up getting an interview and getting the internship, how far north should I get my apartment? Warren is around 11 Mile, and some of the areas around the Tech Center seem a little sketch, so I might need to go north a little bit. There are actually some cozy looking apartments around Wayne State, so I might end up doing that if I work at the Ren Center. I don't know what the crime rates around there are like, though. Any advice for a 20 year old kid that wants to live in Detroit for 3 months is welcome

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>>17667644
ann arbor/pittsfield squad vehicles look pretty cool I think.

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>>17676525
Ann Arbor looser here, can confirm this. If you enjoy driving stay far away from this place.

>non stop road work
>yet for some reason all the roads are terrible
>bad traffic at all times
>police every 10 feet
>speed limit is 35 everywhere
>A2 police don't really have anything to do, so any traffic no no of any kind is insta pull over
>really long stop lights every 100 yards

Once you get out into the rural part of Saline, there's some nice back country roads.

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Monroe fag checking in.

Lots of back roads around here to go 100+ on, such as Labo and Stoney Creek.

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>>17676814
>>17676525
At least you guys don't go to jail for smoking weed.


>>17674435
Damn, I can't say that I would have been able to do that at all (on the side of the road), let alone in half an hour. With my luck I would be beating on hub for hours and the old studs wouldn't come out.

>>17676667
Agreed. I think people massively exaggerate the personal danger.They act like they think people in Detroit murder random people for sport. Yes, it's a dangerous city, but people who haven't been to Detroit seem to have irrational fears about what is going to happen to them. The truth is that you are not that special. No one gives a fuck about you, so if you just go about your daily business it's unlikely that you will have a problem.

>>17676957

How are the police tho?

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>>17669743
>>17669929
Meetup at M1 Concourse let's do it.

>>17665803
>the light on the top of the michigan cruisers
Maybe its time to have some iconic feature like that bubble gum light make a comback. It is one way to show the populace that it's a "new" police force with a "new" attitude.

>>17677605
They never leave downtown so they're no problem at all. It's rare to catch a pig in the country.

>>17677841
Let's do it. How many dudes on this board actually live in Michigan?

another thing I've noticed is I never see cops on M14 west of 275,
275 is a shit show
go drive on 696 if you fucking hate yourself
94 is the place for your minvan to burn down
23 south of ann arbor never has cops except for dundee

>>17681514
248 reporting in

>>17677841
How many planning on going to roadkill nights? On the fence about it since last year's was a bitch for parking. shuttles, etc.
248 here.

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Coloradofag here. Might have a job in the Detroit area soon. What would I be in for?

>>17682006
Carry a gun and dont give money to "homeless" people.
Also stay away from dearborn

Hey guys, posted up in Westland for now. I travel and do IT, so I like to find a lot of fun roads to take. Hines is always a favorite, especially heading up in the Northville area. Over in South Lyon they have a ton of fun, twisty backroads, too.

>>17681514
I'll show as soon as I have a car to bring again. All i have right now is a 15 fusion. Been looking at a new fun car again, but I want to find something piss cheap that needs work.

>>17682189
Dearborn isn't even bad if you can deal with packis and arabs. I've been in the middle of some sketchy shit in Inkster, and parts of detroit though.

>>17665732
Orion road is fun, but short, and there is a spot where cops will wait (on occasion), right in the middle of the fun part.

>>17682259
Hines is nice, but you can't really go very fast, because cops.

>>17681514
248 reporting

>>17682300
Idk man, i blew by a cop going 70 down hines, and he didnt even bat an eye. I think they care more depending on time of day/people out.

We should do a hines meet.

>>17681514
live in Farmington hills, work in AA reporting in.

I went to Pine Knob last weekend and there were some pretty dank curvy roads around there.

>>17682189
Gave a homeless guy $5, 5 min later he came up to me again asking for cigarettes. I pulled out my pack, he snatched it then ran.
Fuck Ann Arbor at 3 in the morning.

>>17682648
>live in Farmington hills
Me too. What do you drive? I wonder if we've ever pulled up to one another at a stoplight.

>>17676667
>detroit people don't just kill/assault randos for fun.
It's still quite different from living in other cities. After you park, there might be someone walking by to check your doors or peer inside to see if there is something worth stealing. You don't get that elsewhere. It doesn't help that detroits tries to not record or report crime stats as it's a political and racial matter. That was an especially big problem during prior decades of black rule. The uneven and unfair law enforcement dictated by anti-discrimination politics caused "white flight" by those that could leave if their jobs or business didn't hold them down.

>>17684757
>Gave a homeless guy $5
There's lots of people who have homes that will ask the obvious outsider or tourist for money. That's how it is now. Money is money and doesn't matter to some people how they get it.

>>17685022
>Money is money and doesn't matter to some people how they get it.
Chiraq

>>17676814
>Yesterday driving in a2 on residential road
>see orange sign and cones
>sign says "Pedestrian Enforcement Area"
>See cop standing near crosswalk ready to cite someone.
>mfw

>>17685113
One way to generate lucrative pension and benefit plan jobs for friends and family is to have all sorts of nonsense jobs in government.

>>17685113
Where's your face?

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>lived in west michigan my whole life
>recently moved to oregon
>portland is now homeless metropolis
>immediately miss michigan and its lax driving laws
>miss grand rapids especially
>literally the only good thing in oregon is they don't salt the roads here

>my car still has the michigan plate, get asked about it occasionally

>>17684757
When I worked in AA I found out the "homeless" bull-shit game very early on. Don't give them a penny.

>>17684990
I've been driving my 2017 Miata recently as my daily, but I also have a Mazda 3

>>17684990
WTF, I work in farmington hills.

You don't drive an evo do you?

I always see a black evo around farmington hills

>>17682006
Get a concealed pistol license (CPL), keeps your doors locked to your car/house, and maybe get a CCTV system or alarm system for your home.


Michigan is a shall issue state, Also open carrying is legal without any permit (long gun or pistol).

I believe they are doing away with carry permits soon because MI found it unconstitutional. So you soon should be able to carry concealed with no CPL

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>>17686874
Hmm I see several Miatas in the week but not 2017s. There's a dude in FH with a viper though. You ever see him?

>>17686911
Nope I drive this.

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East Lansing checking in.

what do you all think of the new plates?

Grew up in oakland county, now live in salt lake city utah.

City streets are based off of a grid system with ground zero being temple square downtown. Been here for 10 years and still confused, the worst layouts of roads ever. They are designed to get you pulled over.

Not to mention the mormons are all retarded and ive been hit by numerous people, nothing serious.

>>17686927
I'm a (different) recent arrival to the state, so I've read up on firearm laws not too long ago.

1/ Pistols need to be registered with the county sheriff. I'm not sure how stiff of a penalty they'd hit an otherwise law-abiding citizen with if it was used and hadn't been registered. Other MI-fags weigh in? 2/ I think the conceal carry law change was mainly geared toward closing the corner case where if a coat or some other temporary covering hid an otherwise open carry firearm that the owner wouldn't be charged with conceal-carrying without a permit. I'd have to re-read to see if we got full non-permit concealed carry out of the deal. Regardless, probably doesn't go into effect until January 1. 3/ CPL is off limits for new arrivals to the state for 6 months after establishing residency. Proof of taking a training class is necessary anyway, so might as well buy a new pistol during this time and have it registered if you wanted to avoid registering your guns purchased from a free state.

>>17682648
>>17684990
>>17686911

Wow. I'm surprised so many people on /o/ are in the same city as me. I live in Southfield, but I spend the majority of my time in Farmington Hills. I drive around FH all day because I work for the city. You guys should post pictures of your cars, maybe we see each other every day.

>>17686399
>When I worked in AA I found out the "homeless" bull-shit game
The "homeless Veteran" lie was frequently used too until it was stopped all over the place. Evidently, the police started telling the scammers that falsely claiming military veteran status in print on their signs could be fraud. It was enough to scare the scammers to stop using that line to prey on sympathy.

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>>17686399

Can you explain more? How is it bullshit? Are a lot of them not actually homeless?


Can any 248fag guess what intersection it is in the related pic?

>>17689352
12 mile & Orchard Lake. Too easy.

Looking at replace my charger with something smaller/faster. Budget for this project is $8,000. Anyone got any cool Craigslist finds in MI?

>>17688083
>Not to mention the mormons are all retarded
The real problem is that mornon owned businesses pretty much discriminate based on mormon religion. Even working at the Southern Pacific railroad in Utah is like that.

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>>17689352
>Can you explain more? How is it bullshit? Are a lot of them not actually homeless?
Not that guy, but the problem comes from how culture has changed. Society fabric has broken down where many people don't care about honest, honor, or self-respect. So pretending to be homeless for social welfare bux, pretending to be mentally ill for lifetime free autism bux, or continually having children under the age of 13 for social welfare free housing and priority social welfare bux is done all the time now.

It's a self-reinforcing problem because feeding social welfare to the lowest common denominator only reinforces that kind of behaviour. The other problem is cancer. It breeds and breeds so that in some cities like mine 1/4 of the minority people 16 and under have children of their own. The child is the ticket to free housing and free social welfare services at taxpayer expense of course. Cancer grows fast when generations reproduce at young ages with large families each being 10 or more. One minority lady I talked to the past year had 17 come from a family of 17 children. She herself had 8 children. She emigrated from NY to CA and then to here because she heard our county was trying to solve the homeless problem, thus she wanted the free stuff.

My wealthy county is continually having to build new structures to house them out of the way of the rest of the population. You see them out in the countryside but only if you recognize those multistory apt complexes for what they are. Social welfare bux supports some businesses as stores appear near those complexes serving a somewhat captive market.

The county was a great place 30 years ago. But the immigrant homeless and prison releases of other states come here and the violent and property crime rates zoomed up.

TLDR: many peoples' personal dictionaries no longer have the word "hypocrisy", "theft", "ethics", "lying" in it, nor do they allow such words to interfere with their way of life.

>>17681991
Pay them $5 a month for mtod pay them for magazine now pay them $20 to watch them live. And get this: the team behind Motor Trend isn’t just trying to get those YouTube-loving millennials to put down their phones and pick up a magazine. It’s charging them $9.99 an issue.

>>17682325
>i blew by a cop going 70 down hines,
If he was going to a call, then the short-handed police can ignore you. It's not like AA which has a positive revenue taxbase.

>>17684757
>Gave a homeless guy $5, 5 min later he came up to me again asking for cigarettes.
Once you show you are willing to help, they come to you again. Two times is probably what they know is the max limit. So that homeless guy maxed his 2nd use of you. Instead of bumming a cig, he snatched all of them since it's not like he'll ever see you again.

Is it worth it to spend $1.5 million on a loft in Corktown if it has indoor parking ?

>>17684757
>Gave a homeless guy $5
Those fuckers get a lot of food with their EBT cards (one type of social welfare) and they frequently throw a lot of uneaten food away in our public library trash baskets. It's also another thing about libraries. I remember when there were very few trash receptables, but now we have lots of them all over the library and even at the ends of some book racks. It's so people stop throwing food items and trash on the carpeted floor.

Homeless basically live in our libraries. The soft chairs are another thing. They are good for wiping greasy or sticky hands on while eating. I see one wipe a hand across the mouth and then wipe that hand on the chair he was sitting on.

>>17691765
>Is it worth it to spend $1.5 million on a loft
If the bubble bursts, what will happen to your money? Various places in our downtown core are constantly negotiating. As a result, shops are constantly torn down to be replaced by buildings housing those same shops, parking garages, and 15 to 20 stories (at least) of office space and apartments. It's been working out and it took a few years, but it revitalized the downtown core to build upwards and have lots of people live there close to work. It really is walking and short busing distance.

A lot of care was also done to not allow social welfare offices to appear. Easier said than done since some activists are always trying to force others to fix the problem instead of ignoring it. To do that, they force homeless into areas that don't have any. This is done by locating social welfare type offices and soup kitchens and food distribution services in suburbs, office areas, and shopping areas. The homeless naturally congregate around these service centers. Their presence thus forces those areas to divert resources to handle the homeless problem. That is how activists FORCE people to fund and take care of the homeless problem. Instead of concentrating it, they try to spread it so that it is "in your face" every day. Thus, you will take care of the homeless.

>>17691847
I better buy where all the rich liberals live then. They won't have any homeless around them.

>>17687812
I like the bottom one better, but both are fairly clean and simple.

906 checking in. Speed limits being raised to 65 all around the U.P.
Lots of people are excited since it's something they've been waiting for for years.

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>>17687146
>>17689251
here's my new Miata. wave or something if you see it.

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>>17694595
Nice car. I'm jealous. I work for the city so I'm usually driving around in pick up truck that says Farmington Hills on the side of it. I'm often in larger trucks too. I spend a lot of time driving around the city. On slow days sometimes I just drive around to kill time. I can tell you that a lap around the perimeter of the FH takes about 40 minutes.