Name a worse place to be a car enthusiast in Canada.

I can't. Southern Onterrible is the worst place in North America to be a car enthusiast.

>>17656766
Alberta roads and weather hurt my soul, but you're right. Ontario sucks.

>>17656766
Burger here, what's wrong with Canada, other than being cucked leftists?

>>17656784
Ontario is basically California but without any good roads.

>>17656766
Quebec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp65_UvYF-A

Any problems that Ontario car enthusiasts have here are entirely self-inflicted. If you're not a brain dead shitbag degenerate it's a lot better here than many other places

Canada as a whole

>>17656831
Alberta is good aside from boring roads. Cheap(ish) fuel, insurance, and JDM ownership. I'll take gravel over acidic salt any day of the week. BC and NS are pricier but have nice roads.

>>17656854
Edmonton is getting acid salt next winter, woo!

Bc is probably the best place, insurance and gas are pricier though. My bike insurance jumped from 45/month full coverage to 250/month for liability when I moved to BC from AB.

>>17656880
Oh, great. I was planning to move to Cold Lake next year. Guess I'll limit my time in Edmonton during the winter then.

>>17656880
That's still probably cheaper than Ontario.

>>17656854
The NS is a pretty good place to be an enthusiast.

When I went into the DMV to get my beginners there was a woman there who had been driving for 35 years without her license before getting caught.

If you're from here you know someone who knows someone who can swap an engine in their driveway and will work for beer and cigarettes.

There's a pretty steady supply of used cars coming from out west that aren't rust buckets, and if you do have a rust bucket your mechanic will sign off on it anyway since cars rust out here fast enough he can pretend it was fine when it left the shop.

So many nice coastal roads

Nederland

>>17656766
Prince edward Island

Ontario is a SHITHOLE.

http://barrie.ctvnews.ca/mobile/lamborghini-among-12-vehicles-impounded-for-stunt-driving-on-hwy-400-1.3351309

These guys were on a rally, and people "thought" they were speeding, no cops witnessed anything, and just vehicularily profiled these guys for stunt driving. Got impounded for a week and had to pay for that.

These guys raised $15k last year for a Christmas toy drive in one day.

>>17656880
How can Alberta have such cheap insurance? It just doesn't make sense why the same thing costs literally 10x as much in Ontario.

Cheap Alberta insurance keeps a lot of people i know living there, even with the economy having gone to shit.

>>17656766
Fort Good Hope.
> Barely any roads
> Everything has to be brought in by aircraft or ship, so parts take ages
> Middle of fucking nowhere
> Really far north so it's cold all year round

>>17656973
I always wondered what it'd be like living in some remote far north town, driving something like a lifted Focus RS/WRX STI with scandanavian winter tires. It sounds like a lot of fun.

Why is Ontario bad?

>>17656880
>Bc is probably the best place
I pay $200 fucking dollars a month for insurance on a shitty, shitty shitty old honda fucking fit, and that's with a 15% discount. Yesterday I got smogged by some faggot coal roller with "TRUMP" all along his 50ft tall truck. I regularly get driven off the road by old ladies trying to lane change into my car, i've been rear ended at a red light twice in a year, and somebody hit and run me at the gym a few weeks ago. And the only enthusiasts around here are 16 year old wigger vaping skinny douchelord faggots who suck each other off in their $1500 slammed straight piped maintenance neglected BMWs.

No, this province is a shithole.

>>17656938
They had dash cam footage. Hence why it never got any more coverage. These people all got throughly fucked over so there was no publicity to be had of their supposed courageous escape from a throughly corrupt system which was the narrative at the time

I wonder what it'd be like to be a car enthusiast on a Pacific Island like Guam, Polynesia, Micronesia, ect

>>17657070
Apparently relatively speaking it's not bad in the Philippines

>touge
>small community of strong enthusiasts
>people that always move out of your way when hooning
>police don't do shit

>>17656991
Where should I start?
>the insurance is fucking atrocious
>road salts in the winter are extremely acidic
>the taxes are terrible
>lots of bureaucracy, such as charging taxes for private used cars
>inspections makes the idea of buying disposable 300$ shitboxes for the winter impossible
>roads are boring and poorly maintained
>nearly impossible to drive an RHD vehicle here
>Toronto is a dump
I hate this fucking province, can't wait to leave it.

>>17656766
singapore.

>>17656766
Alberta, Sask, Manitoba
long flat straight roads for as long as the eye can see.

>>17657182
In Alberta you can ride into the mountains / BC while still having dirt cheap Alberta insurance / no safety/smog / no private sale tax.

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>>17657159

Ontario's generally a shithole for a lot more reasons, but this is a good start. When the rest of the world hears about how shit Canada can be, just keep in mind, it's mainly Ontario they're talking about, not AB/SK/MB.

>>17656948

Ontario is basically a giant prison camp for third world immigrants to funnel into and become debt slaves to fuel our economy that's withering because our government doesn't incentivize manufacturing.

Ontario is a fucking shithole.

>>17657190
Yeah man, just drive across the entire province

>>17657159
Insurance is only high in the GTA
You sound like a bitter poorfag

>>17656938
>drive like an entitled ass in traffic
>get impounded
>"it was a rally, bro"

>more chances to make money (lol oil cucks in Alberta moving back in with mommy and daddy)
>plenty of cars that can be had for cheap
>inspections are a joke, government pays for them and Pajeets pass you for a tenner
>easy availability of aftermarket parts
>anything not available can be shipped easily
>move an hour outside of Toronto for cheap homes with large driveways and cheap insurance
>plenty of great tracks a couple hours away at most
>huge variety in the local car and bike scenes
>lots of auto manufacturing, including the Hellcat/Demon and Ford GT

Rust proof your cars, don't drive like shithead teenagers on public roads, and manage your finances you poorfags

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>>17656854
>>17657182
>Alberta is good aside from boring roads.

Alberta has some incredible roads in the mountains. aww boo hoo you have to drive an hour.

>>17657550
LOL. Bullshit, I live in 4 hours north of the GTA and pay $4000 a year for 2 cars. When I lived in NB I payed $1500

>>17657821
Something's wrong with you
https://www.kanetix.ca/insuramap

>>17657836
Nothing is wrong with me, it's just that they think a $54K car should cost me $800 a month to insure, then I got a family discount so it went to $300. No tickets or anything but I'm 21 years old.

>>17657844
>21
>drives a $54k car
Riiiiiiiight

>>17657847
I'm an army fag

>>17657851
And? I know people your age in the army and they drives Civics

>>17657856
Managing money isn't hard. I've been in for 4 years, making pretty good money and my gf works. Not hard to afford decent things. You can see my salary online lol, it's open to the public.

>>17657863
>managing money isn't hard
And yet you fail at that, driving a $54k car

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>>17657865

>>17657876
>you need to frivolously spend money on a depreciating asset to have fun
This is how poor people stay poor

>>17657879
Cars almost paid off and I'll have it for life. Are you salty because you went bankrupt or something? I'm confused.

>>17657851
You making spec pay? Paying 54k sounds awfully difficult even on P3.

>>17657886
Could have bought something for $20k easily and used the rest for a down payment on a home
>but muh car
Enjoy never building equity

>>17657889
Corporal with LDA, always been easy especially with a GF who works.

>>17657851
>army brat
Car probably costs you more than what you make in a year

>>17657902
I make 64k a year and obviously more when I'm deployed. I don't get where all these replies/hate is coming from lol. Can I ask what YOU people do or make/own?

>>17657897
What's LDA again? You must have gotten an early promotion if you're only 21.
>>17657902
Actually he makes more if he is a corporal.
http://www.forces.gc.ca/en/caf-community-pay/reg-force-ncm-class-c-rates.page

>>17657915
>bought a car that costs 84% of his annual income
>"I'm financially responsible guise!"

>>17657918
Land duty allowance for being in a deployable unit. $326 a month extra. And yes I got an advanced promotion and I'm turning 22 very soon.

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>>17657925
It'll be paid off in 2 years and I still save $1500 a month, probably more than you make LOL. Stay mad.

>>17657930
Good shit. Still a P2 poorfag in the training system, hoping to work on Hercs to get more deployments. Will be making almost 70k in 2 years if I'm not a fuckup. What car did you get?

>>17657944
I just bought a $600k house just outside of Toronto but okay. Homes in that neighborhood are already worth $800k too

>>17657944
Nice defense mechanism, call others poor to defend your terrible financial choices

>>17657946
F-150, not a car, just felt like seeing what they would say lol. I hunt and fish alot so I need it, good for the winter here too.

>>17656766
>Name a worse place to be a car enthusiast in Canada.
PEI
Pretty shit here

>>17657978
Of course a truck cuck would overpay for farm equipment

>>17657972
>Poorfag detected

>>17657985
Meh, Lariat fully decked out, 6 1/2 box and 4x4. Got an $8000 discount with employee pricing and some other things. Got a good deal and love my truck. Needed something reliable to travel and tow my trailer.

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What is up my fellow LEAFs?
I'm bailing out of this shithole before the day of the rake comes.

>>17657978
>>17658001
MOS and posting, if you don't mind my asking?

>>17657805
>Or live in America.
I believe it's relative friend. I have amazing traffic free roads not 10 minutes from where a live in a city.

>>17657602
This. The only thing truly awful about Ontario's car situation are other car enthusiasts. Cops are bros by default but only give you a hard time it you give them a hard time

>>17658010
Cringeworthy

>>17658036
Canada is far superior in pretty much every way. I have nice roads outside the city too but they're nothing compared to the mountains. Any place worth living in the US is too expensive and fuck that 25 year law. It's 15 glorious years up here.

At least we have 94 octane at pumps, that's cool.

>>17658236
It is but I find myself taking the extra minute to mix 94 and 91 2 to 1 to get 93. Saves me a couple bucks desu. Maybe I'll go straight 94 if I start engine building

>>17658086
>Superior in pretty much every way.
>Thread dedicated to how most of Canada is shit for car enthusiasts, and detailing every particular reason why.
I think your countrymen disagree with you retard. By the way, my proper pronoun is master, better respect it or that's a hate crime in your superior country.

>>17658651
Mor elite poorfags bitching
See
>>17657602

>>17658651
Alberta and BC are amazing for Car enthusiasts. I really don't consider anything east of Alberta to be Canada really. It might as well be New USA. The maritimes are okay.

>>17658052
Enjoy your cuckbux, 900 square foot 1.3 millon dollar houses, shit weather and paki infestation and refugees.

>>17658693
Cringeworthy

>>17656823
this

>>17658681
>It's not Canada because I said so

>>17656948
Fraud and lawyers

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>>17656948
>>17657488

Ontario has extremely high fraud, especially on the auto side of things. Too many poos and chinks running fraud rings. Arabs use it to finance terrorism as well - they insure high end used vehicles, then file a claim for the "stolen" vehicle a few months later. In reality, the car is in a shipping container on its way to Qatar while we're stuck here wasting thousands on private investigators and credit checks to try and prove it's fraudulent. Our insurance laws are so fucking toothless that we can't effectively prosecute these fucks, so the companies compensate by gouging everyone with high premiums.

Source: I work for an insurance company, and its shit.

>>17659477
I'm going to quote this verbatim next time some client bitches about their renewal. Also insurance shill in the thick of this shit

>>17656766
Dubai Fag here.

All you got here is Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens, Bugattis, Paganis and Koengiseggs. Yeah and Porsche too. There are only a handful of Miatas here. I've yet to see ricer cars. Modified cars are very rare to find. However meets are there and most of em contains old US imported Lexus GS and other Lexuses because "Modders" here love Lexus so much. Modding a car is stupid expensive.

Dad owns a Maserati gran Turismo + a Gallardo. Friends own Ferraris, Lambos, etc.. I own a Lexus RC350 F sport because I like it's comfort. I find that owning and modding a car is just pointless here.

It's all about "Habibi I just got my 812 Superfast what are you getting next?! Oh Hameed, I just gave my order for a 911 GT3! "

I just wish the car culture here was more diverse and not just expensive supercars. Man it must be awesome up in the US, Japan and I'm sure Canada has better car culture than here.

>>17656831
lol atleast we dont get cucked by the 25 year rule

>>17657452
MB is just a fuck ton of shitty natives man I wouldn't go there, so many of my friends moved out because all the townships are near reserves and these bum fucks get funded by the government all drop out of school and damage anything nice. Inb4 friend had a R32 come out to see it and some guy poured something and took most of the paint slashed the tires and threw a beer bottle through the passenger window :(

>>17661064
id gladly switch lives with you, sound rich af

>>17661076
the goverment needs to stop giving handouts to these degenarates, all they do is spend it on alcohol and drugs, and reserves are a shitheap because of it. I heard the exact same thing happens in australia too

The roads in Quebec are all fucked up. Its terrible for anyone with a low car. They're also assholes with stuff like window tints, lifts and modded exhausts. At least we have no yearly inspections of any kind and insurance is pretty cheap. Our gas is the most expensive in the country too.

>>17657003
bc=/=vancouver

>>17661064
Hey it's you, the RC350 guy again!

But hey man, that seems like heaven to most of us, like supercars everywhere you look at. My friend went to Dubai last year and he was constantly sending me pics of supercars he found. There were lots.

>>17661296
How is living expenses in Quebec? I'm curious to know.

>>17661433
Rent is cheap. Taxes are high (like the rest of canada). People speak french, but Montreal and Quebec City are completely billingual. Gas is expensive. The only overpriced realty in Quebec is in Montreal. The rest of the province is dirt cheap compared to the rest of canada.

Tasmania or New Zealand.

>>17661453
Most of Canada is dirt cheap outside of any big city

>>17661453
Thank you but are taxes really that high? I mean are the taxes liveable?

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>>17658010
Godspeed

>>17661453
Unless things have changed recently Montreal rent is unreal cheap compared to Toronto/Ottawa/Calgary/Edmonton/Vancouver.

Wish I could get a job in Montreal as an Anglo.

>>17661697
Its way cheaper in Montreal than Toronto and Hongkouver, but its about on par with ottawa in terms of living costs I guess. When I say Montreal, I mean Downtown core. The greater montreal area remains relatively cheap comapred to the rest of canada

>>17661076
>tfw Manitoba is only abbreviated to MB because murikans took literally all the other letters after "M"
>being cucked all the way down to the postal abbreviation

>>17661064
Why don't dubaifags make cars? You have the money, but you import them all.
Is it because no car history? Is it because you guys don't know how?
Why is there no GM or Ford for the sandnigger world?

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>>17661758
>Go on youtube
>ARAB SUPERCARS
>German car, Italian car, Italian car, Italian car, german car, british car, german car
>0 arab cars
lel

just because a car has squiggly shit on the license plate doesn't make it arab.

>>17658693
>>17658806

He's actually right tho...
Im renting in a 2.3 million house in downtown markham, its FUCKING TINY. The weather is shit, we don't even get a decent week of snow for snow drifting in the winter. The immigrants are all toxic because theyre trying to get rich quick and can't speak English.

When people say ontario is bad, its mostly just the GTA + waterloo

>>17661825
I've seen 5000sq ft houses in Markham got for that much easily, you're getting over charged

>>17661825
>Markham
Literally anything outside of Thornhill is disease, and house prices are ridiculously inflated.

On the bright side, I've seen R34 Skylines drive up Bayview, which is something you can't see in America because of that stupid 25-year law. Moved away now though, and it's much better

>>17661830
well its decently sized for a townhouse in the city. I rent it out with 6 other guys for like $600/ea.

But its TWO POINT THREE MILLION DOLLARS. We should have like 20 acres, and a few houses for that much

>>17661839
At this point i'd do anything to have the opportunity to leave the GTA. Too bad all the jobs are here

>>17661851
Maybe in the middle of nowhere. Contrary to what some homeless 20 year old thinks, property values are tied to location, and location is tied to economic potential

You may be able to buy 20 acres for 2 million with a giant house in Listowel, but your job opportunities are going to be limited

>>17661857
I moved to Ottawa, it's like the GTA but cheaper and a bit more small town-y. If you want to go big-time, Halifax and some of the Maritime capitals actually have a lot of opportunities in IT and other industries. Alberta is also attractive, but I chose Ottawa instead. The good thing about Ottawa is that the overvaluing hasn't got the suburbs, so you can get a decent house for cheap in places like Nepean or Gloucester, and still be close to downtown.
Traffic is "bad" but if youre from Toronto it's a racetrack considering what the 401 and DVP can be like.
Also, there's a pretty big race and car show scene, and Canada's best racetrack is just outside Nepean

Is Barrie any better to live in than the GTA? I'm scared if I go too far north I'll be surrounded by redneck retards in raised F-150s

>>17661891
Better than prajeets in 2001 3 series blasting their screaming prajeet shit music

>>17661910
>he doesn't like Bhangra
It's like mudslime repellent

>>17656766
Peoples socialist republic of Denmark. 180% mark up on new cars. Terrible insurance prices, can't tune more than 20%, can't lower your car, exhausts have to be stock mostly mufflers are changed, no window tinting, can't be louder than 105 DB, every six months you have to pay half a months salary to be allowed to drive it. No wide tires, no fun allowed, arabs, police can send your car for a check up if they don't like your car (of course you have to pay for it), expensive fines. Fuck you, you have money, pay for the arabs gibs me dats, roads are salted to fuck. Displacement tax, and finally it's full of speedtraps

>>17661955
Sorry, didn't see it had to be Canada

About to move to Toronto from PEI. How bad is the traffic compared to small towns on busy days?

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>>17661969
The 401 through Toronto is the busiest highway in North America

A dash cam is a necessity because insurance fraud and radar guided cruise control makes it alright

Strong car scene here, we even have a GTA /o/tist group

>buy $5000 car
>pay $6000 for insurance per year

I'm 21 with a clean driving record and the cheapest shitboxes like 90s civic or a mk4 jetta would cost me around $500 a month to insure just because I live in Scarborough. My parents both with clean driving records and both have been driving for at least 35 years pay $800 a month for a brand new 2017 Honda Fit and a 2014 Grand Caravan.

I'm just gonna buy something from the 80's or early 90's and get classic car insurance on it so I can actually afford to keep a car. One of my friends has a 87 325i insured with Hagerty and pays 300 ish a year. Technically he's only insured to drive to like car shows and stuff like that for like 4 times a year but he dailies it and there's no way they can check. You can drive it for more but if you get in an accident and they find out you were going shopping or whatever with it they won't pay.

>>17662097
Civics are the most expensive normal cars to insure in the GTA you dumbass

>>17662152
actually it was the cheapest, just under 500, everything else I tried, including, jetta, golf, corolla. altima, accord all from around 2000 was over 500

>>17662383
You're doing something wrong. F150s are the cheapest to insure

The GTA is what makes Ontario shitty.

They give us Liberal politicians, and are filled with Chang's, poos, and dirty fucking hipsters.

The roads are routinely clogged because the public transit is garbage, and the highways all run through the city, ie: no ring roads.

When Toronto got a mayor that actually wanted to build more subway lines, the lefties bitched and moaned about LRT like the idiots they are, yet still consider Toronto a "world class city". I fucking hate the place.

Anywhere outside of the south is a nice place to drive: lots of lakes, hills, and winding roads in decent shape. Just don't drive like an idiot.

As to the CAF cpl who spent $54k on a new car: LOL. Petawawa is filled with morons like you who spend that and more on 5 litre Mustangs and fucking pickups. You people make me laugh.

>>17662396
I didn't look at any trucks as I had no interest in one. I'll give it a look tho. I only looked at small sedans, and I haven't actually called in anywhere. These are just online quotes. I'm most likely either gonna get insured under my dads name or find something older but in better shape and get classic car insurance. It might also be the area I live in, I'm in a not so great part of Scarborugh, I live around Markham RD and Ellesmere.

I only pay $84 / month for my integra GS-R and I live in Ontario.

Moved here from Vancouver last year (drove) and I must say the driving / road conditions in this province are disgusting. Salty slush or snow 2/3rds of the year, terrible traffic, pot holes and cracks everywhere. Living here has started to make me loathe driving and cars in general. Going back west eventually

>>17662676
>he didn't even go to a track

>>17661064
I lived in Abu Dhabi for a while, I just remember that everybody there drives like absolute shit as well.

>>17662684
ones where i am are shit

>>17662429
Those same liberal politicians forced all the shooting ranges out of the city too, under the retarded fucking premise that it would reduce gang shootings somehow.

You Ontario fags will know about the Duct cleaning phone calls from indians.

I just got one for the 1000th time.
I said "Do I tell you how to shit on your streets? Don't tell me how to clean my ducts".

the only good thing about Ontario is pissing off poo in loos

>>17662879
Put your number on the national do not call list

>>17663027
These fuckers run scams out of India for a living, you think they care about a do not call list? That list hasn't done shit for several years.

>>17662676
Saying what you pay means nothing without age and driving history.

My only REAL complaints, as a fairly average person living in Ottawa, are these:
- tracks are few and expensive, no "track days" that I know of without joining clubs and paying through the ass
- high insurance for anybody without wrinkles and a clitoris
- "safety inspection" which just gouges anybody trying to plate their shitbox.
- emissions tests (not really an issue desu, only if you mod your engine HEAVILY or remove parts of the exhaust)
- roads within an hour of me are all flat and boring.

Why

>>17664209
Did you just find me some twisties, anon?
t. Bordenfag

>>17664047
So then why would it matter whether you live in Ontario or not?

>>17656938

It was more the fact that 12 cars had been seen driving aggressively in a formation, which absolutely qualifies as stunting.

The reality is these people were the stupid ones that finally got caught in the OPP's big crack down on asshats in fancy cars and motorbikes driving like assholes, aggressively weaving in and out of traffic, driving at high speeds, ect. For a long time the OPP's no chase under any circumstance has turned the GTA into an IRL GTA.

This wont be the last time you hear about this, and they'll be doing it more when this goes to court and a judge sides with the OPP, which WILL happen.

So well I agree with you that Ontario is a shithole, this was deserved.

Fellow ontarians. What should I do to prevent rust on my WRX? I just got it in April, and I really need it to last a while. Any tips?

>>17665027
Professional rustproofing, don't cheap out and get something with a long warranty

>>17664936
Fucking thank you. I hate the blind ravenous support for this kind of shit

>muh corruption
>muh no evidence
>muh profiling
>muh revenue generation
>muh jealously
>muh wrong lane
>muh snitching illegal immigrants
>lynch Kerry Schmitt now

I fucking hate car people here. Each one is more ignorant dangerous and violent than the last

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>Just got G1 today
>Find this thread
I'm in for hell aren't I?

>>17661080
ausfag, in small rural town, can confirm the abos do the exact same things as your post and the post you quoted.

winnipeg

>>17665745
Stay away from anyone calling themselves a "car enthusiast" and you'll have no trouble at all. Driving prudently is also a good idea. Ontario isn't a fraction as bad as these people are making it out to be

>>17656826
>no safety
>no emission
stop acting like a kid and it's a nice place

>>17657182
There's some sections of highway in Manitoba, such as the old number 1 between Headingley and Portage or the 44 leading into Selkirk, that are okay. The bigger deal in my eyes is the ungodly amounts of snow and road salt.

>>17662097
What's to stop someone from just telling the insurance company they live in North Bay or whatever?

>>17666267
If you tell them you live in North Bay but all of your transactions and stuff are in Toronto or something they'll catch on and it's considered insurance fraud