JDM LS SWAP IRRITABILITY

>>17654175
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jJIVK-daGk
Do it.

>>17654175
Why not just buy a GM car if you want a GM car so bad?

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>Give me a reason

Nigger it's your car and your money, why do you give a fuck what other people think?

Little bitch nigger.

>>17654213

RX-7 is cheap to buy, looks awesome and is a nice future slippery sausage project. The biggest issue is that car is the oil thirsty engine, let's be honest.

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>>17654215

Why are you in a fucking website made to interact with other people if you don't give a fuck what anybody thinks?


Bix nood muggafugga

>>17654220
I'd rather get a dead engine RX8 and LD swap it. I see a lot of prstine condition RX8's with dead engine going for <2k.

>>17654220
Do your solution is to fuck the balance all to hell? Wouldn't buying oil be cheaper than buying a new engine, suspension, engine mounts, custom wiring harness, modified firewall, and transmission?
If you want a corvette buy a corvette.

>>17654213
GM engine is not GM chassis

Engine swaps exist because manufacturers trying to shoot for demographics and shit won't always give you exactly what you want at your price point

>>17654257
Maintaining a rotary costs a couple grand a year in oil, extra burnt gas, plugs, coils, and apex seals

>>17654260
My flat mates fd is 120000ks without a rebuild and still starts fine. It gets the same fuel economy as my twin turbo z although it can't be hypermiled as easily.

As long as you do the life support mods and keep up with maintenance it's no more unreliable than any other 90s sports car


Yes I know this thread is bait but I will post anyway to red pill lurkers

>>17654268
The rebuild is only like $500-800 of that couple grand you're spending over a petrol engine with similar output

>>17654260
So it's cheaper to spend 9 grand minus the engine and transmission? LSfags are so fucking stupid.

>>17654257

How is it cheaper in the long term to maintain a Rotatory engine? Eats up more fuel and oil than a V6 or V8 and gives out a lot less performance.


LS swap seems like a no brainer

>>17654276
>9 grand
>LS swap

Are you unironically paying a shop to do it, or starting from scratch on a car nobody has done it too before? Are you buying a brand fucking new crate engine?

>>17654286
Show me the receipts from your LS swap. Do you even have a garage?

>>17654286
>>17654289

How much does an LS swap usually cost? I am reading online, it runs around 6 to 15k

>>17654274
this post is so retarded, rotary rebuilds aren't cheaper than any other rebuild.

>>17654315
Nobody here has actually researched one, much less done one. They'll unironically tell you that it's $500 and an afternoon.

>>17654322
I've done one, got about 2000 into the car so far including engine, trans, ECU and the car itself.

>>17654324

Which car? 2k is super cheap for an LS swap. Makes me want to buy an RX-7 and do one right now.

>>17654175
I don't, especially with cars like the 86/brz/frs. FA20 is a piece of shit and should be scrapped. LS3 makes it a decent car.

>>17654331
I guarantee it wasn't an rx7. It was probably some old GM shit.

>>17654331
>>17654334
volvo 240

>>17654337

You made some crazy sleeper?

>>17654331
Don't expect it to cost 2k to LS swap an RX7 unless you already have the car, a welder and a work place to get it done.

>>17654341

Nah, I was expecting at least 7k, not accounting for the car.

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>>17654339
Finally got the tig welder to weld up the exhaust and intake and steering shaft but my HOA is cucking me, need to move to a shitty mexican area instead of white yuppieville

>>17654347
You're talking about how cheap it is and it's not even done yet? What a fucking idiot.

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>>17654353
There's not really much left to do lol
You don't even know what's involved in a swap, all the hard work is done.

>>17654353

He is almost done, what are you on about?

>>17654175
It's all about balance, sports cars are highly refined to have a nice balance between all their components from the factory. Everything is matched together nicely and it takes years of development (not to mention the years of experience) to achieve that balance.

When you do any modifications to a sports car you are jeopardizing that balance. Trusted aftermarket manufacturers and trusted tuners have also put in a lot of development (and experience) to try and maintain a good balance with their upgrades, however their upgrades are usually fairly minor - in order to keep that balance.

Swapping an entirely different motor, - not just different dimensionally but completely different characteristically, is a massive change to make on a sports car and it may take a lot of work to get the car back into a good drivable balance again.

>>17654357
>>17654347

That's awesome

>>17654359
Yeah, it's only taken him like 3 months.
I hope all the anons recommending this have welding gear and skills.

>>17654360

There's a shit ton of guides on how to LS swap an RX-7 and maintain the balance from factory.

>>17654367
It only took a week to get that far, it's been sitting with nothing done to it since.

>>17654370
Step 1: buy a corvette.

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>>17654372

I don't want a Corvette, I want an RX-7 with a Corvette Engine.

>>17654370
Maybe enough people have done it by now that they've figured out what else to do to the car... or maybe they are full of shit and their cars suck.
I honestly don't know but you should always take modification guides on the internet with a grain of salt.

>>17654372
Unironically this.

>>17654387

V8 RX-7 is not a fucking mystery, my man. RX-7 get all sorts of swaps for skiddy torpedo projects.

OP's future car

>https://youtu.be/ZcjpXbMiCtg?t=360

>>17654393
>skiddy torpedo projects.

My fucking point exactly, people who have no idea what the fuck they are doing who absolutely ruin the balance and drive-ability of a car.

>>17654422

Waah waah. Buy an RX-7 for yourself and keep it mint if you care so much, cunt.

>>17654429
>get BTFO
>keep posting
Why?

>>17654429

I have actually spent a lot of time and effort bringing my MR2 back to as close to stock as I can get it.
I literally don't care what you do to your RX-7 I'm just telling you my knowledge about cars, balance and engine swaps.

He's a good example for anyone interested:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy1GKdyu7QE
Two KP-61 Starlets:
>one with the stock motor highly modified and the rest of the car to suit
>one with a 4AGZE with the rest of the car modified (butchered) to suit
The 4AGZE ran a slightly faster lap time as expected for the extra power but which one do you think Dorikin enjoyed driving more????

Because people such as yourself are retards and normal people dont like when retards act retarded.

>>17654260
case and point

>>17654450

How did I get BTFO just because some purists thinks I am some high as fuck teen ricer for wanting to do an LS swap for a car known to have a not very reliable engine?

Just because we don't stop you from being a faggot doesn't mean we won't call you one. Fucking retard.

>>17654479
because you think it costs nothing to do the swap and there are zero maintenance costs afterwards
for the cost of the engine and trans alone (good condition, not $500 junkyard pieces of shit) you could rebuild the rotary for half a century
fuck off

>>17654452
>Swapped car is faster
>....uh, muh driving pleasure

>>17654508
Maybe you'll learn one day.

>>17654516
the pleasure comes from his bias towards purity. a non-purist would take more pleasure in driving a work of ingenuity and dedication.

that enjoyment is purely subjective

however, the lap time is not.

>>17654518
>the pleasure comes from his bias towards purity
Speaking of subjective: That's your subjective opinion.

Now I happen to know a fair bit about Dorikin and a fair bit about driving fast and let me tell you my subjective opinion from that video:
>Tsuchiya enjoys the 4K-U Starlet more because he is an expert race car driver and it is a well balanced car. His enjoyment comes from using all the techniques he has developed, from racing cars, to drive the car faster.
He was not able to use those same techniques on the 4AGZE Starlet because it was not well balanced, particularly in the brake bias thanks to an AE86 diff conversion needed to handle the extra torque, so he instead relied on the cars raw power to set the faster lap time.

>>17654499

Yeah, except the swap one has more than double the horse power. Try to put a Turbo in a fucking Dorito engine, and see how reliable it is. Comsuption is already bad in the dorito in a base.

>>17654546
Just buy a hayabusa.

>>17654557
Or LS swap an rx7

>>17654452

>Implying it is not more fun to drive an overpowered shitbox with so much horse pew pew that it could kill you at any given time.
Dudeo brah, come on.

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>>17654557

Why the fuck a Hayabusa? What does it have to do with LS swapping a RX-7?

>>17654560
A hayabusa will be cheaper and do everything a ls swapped rx7 will, but better and most likely safer.

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>>17654571

Except the Highabuser is not a car, unlike the RX-7.

>>17654561
Well that depends on whether you want to learn/hone/express your driving skills or you just want to scare yourself with some thrills.

>>17654580
If you want to go the fastest you can in a straight line and throw away positive handling characteristics why are you letting 2 less wheels hold you back?

>>17654583

>Implying you don't learn faster when you are scared as fuck for your life

If you drive like a tranny, you'll only get good at driving like a granny.

>>17654593

Because you're bullshitting everyone by saying handling characteristics are going to scrap if you LS SWAP an RX-7 when there's ton of build guide tackling the issue on balance and weight distribution...

>>17654607
Yeah maybe at low skill levels that might be true, once you actually get good at driving you'll want a well balanced car.

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>>17654623

Cool, I guess I'll LS swap an RX-7 then and drive until I get good and want a better balanced car.


Not sure if I should sell the Dorito engine, or just burn it and recorded in a video.

>>17654628
You can't afford an ls swap.

>>17654628
You know what they say: You can't put an old head on young shoulders, I guess you'll have to learn those lessons for yourself.

>>17654175
The RX7 and RX8 are the only ones that trigger me with piston swaps, everything else I don't give a fuck, go wild. Just buy a C5 Corvette if you want an LS RX7, it would be cheaper anyway. No need to get rid of the one thing that makes an RX7/RX8 special.

>>17654569
Nothing, weebs are in melt down mode

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>>17654638
>>17654636
>>17654635
>>17654632

Definitely burning and recording. Might just play Free Bird in the background too.

>>17654642
How so?
I did a full rebuild on my 22r with new pistons, polished crank, new head with new valves, new cam, bored 20 thou over, decked block, new oil pump and bearings, new timing chain and tensioner and it still only cost me 1000.

>>17654643

Having the laugh of my life reading all the weaboo madbuttery. I love this board.

>>17654319
If you do it before you blow an apex seal all you have to do is reseal it, it only gets expensive if an apex seal goes and you have to replace one or both rotor housings and possibly a rotor. Plus while it's apart you can bridgeport the housings and make a lot more power.

>>17654650
You still need apex seals, rotor and housing, last I check a NOS rotor and housing runs about 1600 dollars

>>17654661
>bridge port
>make more power
Yeah and lose what little torque and drivability you ever had, lmfao

>>17654664
>only the seals are bad
Lol
Yeah, and when you rebuild a piston engine all you need is new rings and to resurface the cylinders with a dingle ball hone.
Same level of ghetto half assery, and it would still be cheaper on a piston engine since rings are like 40 bucks a set and apex seals are 5 times that

>>17654646
Do it. I'm still saying you can't afford it.

>>17654663
You can get a LOT of low end torque in a high overlap engine. The trick is that you lose out on power at low throttle openings.

>>17654675
You don't ever need new valve springs unless one breaks or you're replacing the cam with something more aggressive.
Also bearings and thrust washer are rarely ever out of spec, bottom ends are rarely an issue.
Even if they were out of spec a bearing set is again 40 dollars.

>It's another ''Weebs can't admit the Rotatory engine is a terribly inefficient piece of crap'' episode.

>>17654689
Yeah and you don't need new pistons either right?
Just new rings and a quick ball hone.
You're pushing a half ass rebuild for the rotary and then insisting on a full rebuild with new parts for the piston motor.
You're making false comparisons.
A realistic comparison would be new rings and a ball hone on a piston engine, which I will say is actually a pretty commonly done thing, you can even do it with the engine in the car most of the time.

>>17654695
>hate weebs
>buy jap car
Why don't you just get a corvette?

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>RX-8 rotatory
>232 BHP 1.3L

Gives you an MPG of 16 city, 22 High way.


>2015 Singray
>455BHP 6.2L

Gives you a MPG of 17 city, 29 highway.
B-but my Dorito engine is awesome!!! America sucks! Japan is better in everyway!! Fucking REDNECKS, REEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>>17654704

Because I want the RX-7, it's like a better looking Porsche 944 or Plymouth Daytona. It's an affordable car too, once the engine is swappity swooped.

>>17654716
Rotors break all the time when the apex seals tear them apart, very common for the rotor to be destroyed when the seals fail, along with the housing.

>>17654725

Also, unlike the 944 and the Daytona, RX-7 have a YUGE aftermarket that's pretty affordable, compared to fucking Porsche parts.

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>>17654728

Just imagine the low growling sound of the V8 cumming out of the RX-7, my dude.


Pure sex

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>>17654733

>LS rx7 are slower than rotary powered ones
Straight out bullshiting, I see. LS1 engines make 350, and up to 400+ with a carb easy. Good luck making a fucking Rotatory do that while being as fucking efficient and reliable as a V8.

>>17654733
>scratched rotor
Since when does an apex seal failing simply scratch the rotor and not cause deep gouging/total destruction?

Also rods typically don't fail, the part of an engine mode likely to wear out or fail is the piston rings and valves/valve seats
The only original parts left in my 22r is the crank, block and rods, and it still only cost me 1000 dollars including the machine work.

The thread got derailed, but I'll let my two cents in.

Someone said you can put in a Mustang trans in a Crown Box, and they also said you can put in a Coyote 5.0 engine as well. At that point, you have a heavier Mustang that has even worse handling, so why not just get a proper Mustang? The problem with LS swaps is that they're so overdone, it's literally the bacon of engines. It's disappointing to see something like WICKED CAMRY RUNNING 8s UNBELIEVABLE and then reveal its an LS1 swap, of fucking course.

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>>17654743
Add a third rotor then

>>17654757
>since forever? that usually how rotors get damaged, rotors actually breaking is not common
Wrong.
The seal failing destroys the seal land, rendering the rotor useless.
>>17654756
>20k dollars later

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>>17654750

>Drag car only as examples


So basically, you admit it is impossible to have as much power as a V8 with the fuel efficiency and reliability on a Dorito engine, so you decide to change the goalposts in hopes your weird compatriots will chime in to support your bullshit.


Face it, US engines are great. RX-7 do nothing but benefit from an LS Swappity swoppity to anger the fat weaboo manboobittities.

>>17654756

>Make this inefficient and unreliable engine even worse for more than what would cost you to do a fucking LS1 swap

>>17654770
>roof
>block
The block isn't up, the head is
I've seen you make a bunch of simple mistakes that anybody with mechanical aptitude would be able to spot, I remember you said some really retarded shit like 2 months ago, I should find that.

>>17654357
why is your exhaust manifold backwards

>>17654783
It's a turbo manifold, the turbo mounts in the corner of the fender where the battery used to go

>>17654780

Keep sperging, commie. No one here has talked about drag racing or track racing. I am looking for horsepower & reliability. V8's offer the best back for your buck.
Get over it.

>>17654790
He posted on /sp/ during lemans and he had a mexican flag, dude didn't realize sp has flags

>>17654798
>10k
Maybe if you don't count the price of the engine.

>>17654798
>nope, an LS swap is 10k at minimum
What?
I could sell a car I LS swap for 7k and make 3-4k profit easily, the swap itself isn't expensive it's the labor involved.
If you do the labor yourself it's very cheap.

>>17654801
>asking a furfag if he is autistic

>>17654798

Here, commie. Listen, listen with your commie ears.


>https://youtu.be/uGJrKM93xbY?t=117


You see this, coomie? Look, look with your commie eyes.


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_mCTmoKXJ8

>>17654804
lmao
Nobody wants and engine mount made of spot welded rebar. Besides, truckers are the scum of the earth, who would buy from you?

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>>17654819

I am LS Swapping the RX-7. No need for low test beta engines revving high like the voice of a queer.


V8, HIGH TEST, MANLY SOUNDS. GROOOOWL.

>>17654820
Spot welded rebar?
I just dropped 3k on a TIG welder so I can make custom titanium and stainless exhausts, aluminum intakes etc
Stay btfo bus rider

>>17654831
>LS swaps are so cheap I just dropped an extra 3k to be able to do it

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>>17654838
No, I dropped 3k so I can improve my quality to levels that will be highly desirable and easy to sell.
You can LS swap with a harbor freight wire feed and a grinder, or you can step it up to the next level and fabricate dope shit that people will pay out the ass for.
Spent about an hour today playing around with the AC portion of the machine, trying out welding aluminum, def have a lot more to learn but it's already getting better looking.

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>>17654838
>>17654847

There's a reason Dorito engines are not in production anymore, and will never be.

>>17654862
It's fuel economy and emissions regulations, neither of which are relevant on 25 year old cars you're considering putting a V8 into.

>>17654866
No????? I have a brand new 2017 model sitting in my driveway right now with an LS3.

>>17654866

V8's definitly are.

>>17654869

>It's fuel economy and emissions regulations, neither of which are relevant on 25 year old cars you're considering putting a V8 into.

It's also horsepower, reliability and oil consumption. Rotaries are just inefficient and there's no way around it.

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>>17654877

Rotatory engines are no in production.

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>>17654877


>>17654875
If you're not premixing with a rotary you're dumb. Helps with reliability. There's even a Sohn adapter that adds a reservoir you put 2 stroke oil into instead of drawing oil from the pan for the OMP system and meters it properly for you.

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>>17654882

>Being so poor you can't a afford an RX-7, so you bitch about people who can and want to modify it

>>17654894
Not yet. Production is set to end October 20th.

>>17654894
>you can buy housings so therefor the engine is still in production
what

>>17654936
And you can buy every part for an LS, even after they go out of production, that doesn't mean it's in production tho.
Once again, false comparisons.

>>17654955
>loses the argument
>better move the goalposts real quick
lmao

>>17654894
>I don't even wan't an rx7????

You better not, because you can't afford it anyway. I say the same thing about the Testarrosa, you know?


Why would anyone ever want that cocaine dealer piece of spaghetti crap.

>>17654901
God to see you still have some American in you, kiddo.

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>>17654969

>Changing goal posts yet again


Lmao

Man, you clearly have never owned a BMW or Toyota if you think rotaries burn oil
My 118i burned a quart a month after 1 year of ownership and my friend's mrs has to have a spare bottle in the frunk just in case

>>17655009

No, I have not. I was considering buying an E36 but the maintenance issues got me away from it, plus I think the FC looks are sexy as fuck.

>>17655014
I agree
If i get tired of my rx8 I'm getting an FC since they're now exempt from emissions and inspection

>>17655019

>they're now exempt from emissions and inspection


Oh crap, that's awesome. How's the RX-8?

>>17655026
Great
Ported exhaust, cat delete and good tires and It's the best fun you can get on the road
If you get one have it compression checked and try to let the exhaust breathe

>>17655036
>and It's the best fun you can get on the road
Short of an LS swap

>>17655036

Awesome, stay safe out there pal. If you end up buying an FC, good luck with the buy.

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>>17655047

This was an awesome thread, I am off to be productive now dude. You're a cool guy, MrCrummy.


>>17654969
>>17654901

*Growl sounds*

>>17655026
RX-8 is pratically a rotary Miata.

>>17654175
Just get a 944 and LS swap that. Literally nothing redeemable about those things.

>>17655213
Parts are too expensive, the aftermarket for cool mods is smaller...


Don't you like the looks of the Porsche? I think it looks awesome, desu.

>>17655151

Sounds fun, gotta try one.

>>17655392
Looks nice, apparently it's pretty comfortable, won't rust, other than that it sucks.

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>>17655079
>>17654896


Lol, S/o/viet was samefagging this thread and got banned 30 minutes ago under the tripfag of ''A.''.

>>17655398

Base FC vs Base 944. Isn't the Porsche a better car overall?

Honestly asking, I cannot find good sources. All I know is that the FC was to supposed to be a budget competitor to the Porsche, correct?

Was the Porsche actually better?

A LS swapped jdm Honda Integra type r is one of my dream projects. All that horsepower wrapped in a JDM rhd package. It would be stupid expensive to do but it would be pure magic to drive

>>17655414
TurboII FC fucking demolished the 944.

>>17655430

Yeah, but I need to know about the base models. Not interested in either the FC Turbo II or the 944 Turbo. Since I plan on LS swaping in the future...no point in paying extra for Turbo. Also, I've heard the FC Turbo is super unreliable.
If someone finds a good source comparison between both base models, please do share. Both the FC and 944 pretty much run at the same price in here.

>>17655414
Reviewers called the 944 "the best handling car of its time" pretty often. Suspension between the two is pretty similar from what I can tell, weight distribution is near enough 50/50 for both, but the RX7 uses a traditional north-south transmission whereas the 944 uses a torque tube and a modified Audi 2WD transmission between the rear wheels.

>>17655430
The Turbo II was going up against the 944 Turbo or 944 S2, no?

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>>17655424

Follow your dreams my man, I am working my ass 12 hours a day plus cleaning houses on weekends so I can afford either the FC or 944 with an LS Swap in the future.


We're all gonna make it, brah.

>>17655448
>Since I plan on LS swaping in the future...no point in paying extra for Turbo
The 944's stock transmission can't handle the torque of an LS, so you'd need a Turbo transmission.
And before you say "Why not just use the T56 that the LS most likely comes with from the donor car?", the 944 has no transmission tunnel. A T56 won't fit without lots of cutting and welding.

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>>17655449

Then what I've read was correct, seems like the 944 is an overall better car, with a perhaps worse transmission, the only short comings of the Porsche being the lower aftermarket support and expensiveness in parts...
I'll have to do some more research on the aftermarket stuff and real costs of pieces and decide. I honestly love both cars. Aesthetically wise both are awesome, if I could find an aftermarket tail light kit for the 944 with round lights, that would be really sweet.

>>17655488
I like the 944, although I'd go for an Audi inline 5 turbo swap myself.

>>17655478

I see, I didn't know that. Well shit.

>>17655499

Yeah, that Audi looks awesome. A heck of a lot better than the Quattro.

>>17655519
Ah, so LS swap advocates are also the ones who hate rally cars. Makes sense.

>>17655526
I don't hate the Quattro, it just the looks of it don't click with me.
Aren't you a bit of a drama queen?

>>17655539
Do the looks of the Lancia Stratos also not click with you?

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>>17655559

Are you fucking kidding? How's the Lancia Stratos, a sporty italian sharp look have to do with that soft round ass and droppy eyes from the Quattro?

>>17655559
>>17655601
I think we both got confused here, pal. When I said the Quattro, I meant the Audi TT Quattro. Not the Rally car.

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How cum this faggots rx7 v8 swap handles like a lotus on coilovers with a carbon tub body and aluminum chassis. Rotarys are light and small just gotta remove the front crash beam and other shit to keep the front light so it can handle the track like a jdm hachiroku

>>17655887

Both this dude and his car, are magnificent creatures. I want a ratty madmax RX7 badly.

>>17655887
Pretty much, there's a lot of sources out there of how to ls swap an RX7 and keep it a good handling skippity slids mobile.

if you own an rx-7 you dont drive it all the time so the oil consumption is a joke
no one here has the skill or money to make a custom car with a custom powerplant, if you could actually do it you would have done it already

>>17656055

What sort of retarded thinking is that?

>>17655799
Oh, if people talk about cars that have the same name I automatically assume they're talking the rally or race version.
Also, I >>17655887

>>17655887
His was Ferd 302 swapped though, wasn't it?

>>17656055

>No one here


That dude with his ratty RX7 build his car by delivering pizza. Maybe if you got yourself a fucking job, you could start saving up to buy the car you want, cunt.

>>17655407
We already know it's Alphonse, he has all the same opinions on engines and cars and uses the same 0-60 arguments, Ford shilling, LS hate etc

>>17657011

Glad he got banned, what a massive retard.

>>17657241
Bans don't do anything retard

>>17654175
Because you're basically getting a C5 that's uglier and costs way more money. Just buy a C5.

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daily reminder all the fastest rx7s are rotary powered and for LESS than the cost of buying all the shit for a crappy 300hp ls1 swap, you could have a 600hp rotary and rebuild it for half a century
prove me wrong you literally cant

oh and,
>a gm v8 has NEVER EVER won le mans
top roflmao


>>17654546
>Yeah, except the swap one has more than double the horse power
ls1 doesnt have more than double the power
try again, stupid cunt

>>17654743
>LS1 engines make 350, and up to 400+ with a carb easy
the fuck am i reading

>>17654175
>Why do purists get buttmad when people deface what they hold sacred
hmm I wonder why
>It's not your property, so why give a fuck?
wow it's almost like when people do something considered abominable to what they hold dear, it causes emotional reactions

if you really needed to ask these questions, consider suicide

>Give me a reason why one shouldn't do that.
because you can LS swap a 944

>Samefagging yet again


No even gonna bother

>>17654381
get a 944 if you want an fd with an ls just kill yourself.

>>17660217


Nah, RX-7 is more fun. Just talking about it triggers weaboos. Imagine the day I actually post it finished.

>>17659485
Daily reminder that rotaries are a flawed design and that there is no replacement for displacement

>>17660226
Why not just build a mark iv BBC
There cheaper and if built right will out preform an ls

>>17660252

Not into fourth generation big black cocks. That's some weird fetish you've got going on there.

>>17660393
Its a mark iv not a gen 4 huge difference you fucking cuck REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>17660403

Doesn't Mark 4 literally mean 4th gen?


Also, why a BBC and no an LS? What's your rationale?

>>17660411
The gens are the vortec blocks while the mark iv is the old school big block you can't swap parts from a mark iv to a gen 4
There cheaper just as reliable and have more after market then the ls and tend to be easier to get power out of

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>>17660427
I'll do some research and consider it, see if there's anyone who has already done it.

I can't wait to make weaboos mad by desecrating the sanctity of their favorite gook mobile with some ALPHA AMERICAN MUSCLE, HELL YEAAAH!!

>>17660460
Did a quick search doesnt seem to be many which gives you the cool points for it but it wouldn't be to hard since people do lsx swaps and I wouldnt imagine an lsx be smaller then a mark iv, you gotta swap the tranny anyways so only real fitment issues I would see are probably just fender wells and hood and of course the engine mounts but that's easy as shit
People mostly go with the ls because of efi but there are dozens of efi kits for the mark iv

idk your price range but a 489 kit some cheap heads and a good junkyard block will run you around 3800 before the efi and is anywhere from 700 bucks to about 1400 and you'll be good to at least 500hp and 550ftlbs with a carb but god knows what you could get with an efi

>>17660763
I almost have the 5k for a RX-7. I'll take me around a 6 months isolate another 5 to 7k for the swappitty swoopitty. I'll do some more basic upgrades before touching the powerplant though.


Thanks for the info, Anon. It's pretty interesting. I'll save this thread for future reference.

>>17660770
>I'll take me around a 6 months isolate another 5 to 7k for the swappitty swoopitty
try more like 20k.

>>17654220
>RX-7 is cheap to buy
Nigga where unless you mean FB/FC

>>17654260
>Maintaining a rotary costs a couple grand a year in oil, extra burnt gas, plugs, coils, and apex seals
Let me enlighten you on the reality of a rotary owner

>check oil level at every fuel up (maybe $5 for a quart when needed, since best oil for the 13B-REW is conventional 10W30)
>maybe buy 2 stroke oil if OMP is deleted (what, $3/bottle? A bottle will cover 3-5 tanks?)
>A little extra time to let the car warm up and especially cool off (hood up senpai)
>Drive the piss out of it once warm
>>coils
Literally no
>>Plugs
The only expense, but they're 30-75k mile change intervals and they're easy as fuck to change if need be.

I know LS swap cucks are stupid but you should at least give the superior rotary a try before dumping thousands of dollars on a MUH VEEAYTE swap

>>17661502

I always meant FC, altjhough I can probably snatch and F3DS for 5 to 6k if I am willing to bother importing from Japan.

>>17661401

Beats buying a modern car, I can just save and over the years do the swap and have an unique, reliable and thrilling to drive swaggity raggity mobile. I doubt it'll be that expensive anyhow, research shows otherwise.

>>17661529
>although I can probably snatch and F3DS for 5 to 6k if I am willing to bother importing from Japan.
No you can't if you're an American. Those days of cheap FDs are gone.

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>>17661540

I am not American, literally saw a 130k miles F3DS that could be imported to my nearest port for only 6k€(7k$) a couple days ago.
Tell me....would it make you angery if I bought and F3DS and did a BEE ATE Swoop?

>>17661555
You're in Europe?
That majorly fucks with the LS' value proposition and if you have vehicle inspections, have fun getting through those.

>>17661559

I cannot see why it would be a problem beyond the costs of shipping. V8's are not illegal in the 1.2L engine land.

>>17661555
Wouldn't bother me one bit m8

>Eurocuck
>LS swapping anything
kek, let's see this happen

>>17661570
Depending on your country's laws you might have to pass an individual vehicle inspection in order to get it registered again though. I know where I live that's the case as soon as you go beyond a 20% power increase.

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>>17661578
>>17661579

I am doing some research, and while it is true you have to notify any big changes to the car (You have to drive you car a specialized place so they can verify the vehicle like once every 4 years). It doesn't seem like it's illegal, and there seems to be websites dedicated to car tuning where I live.
Not that any of that European crap is enforced that much where I live, car heads over here hate retarded laws and will allow your car to continue running in the streets if some retarded legislation is cock-blocking you.
If the LS SWOOP becomes financially retarded, compared to other options, I can always have a look at our European V8s. I know for certain it's not going to be illegal, that's for sure.

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Looks like S/o/viet got banned yet again.

>>17661618
Probably best to go read up on the laws and regulations before buying anything. Maybe call up your local inspection station to see what exactly you have to adhere to and such.

And an LS swap is so common in the US because you can find a truck with an engine from the same family in every junkyard, which you can usually take home for fuckall. In Europe, not so much. You'd have to specially order the engine and everything else you need to get it working, and have it shipped over unless you get really lucky and find a wrecked F-body or Corvette.

>>17661635

Any idea how reliable European V8's are? I know for a fact they don't sound as good.


Good thinking though, I'll do some calls and inform myself.

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There seems to be a shit ton of V8 engines from Audis, BMW and Mercedes in Europe.

I found the V8 engine of an SL500 for only 1500€

>https://www.milanuncios.com/motores-de-segunda-mano/motor-mercedes-sl500-w129-119960-159595124.htm


Doesn't sound as good as American engines, but meh.

>https://youtu.be/4PBJx9XaQR0?t=23
It'll keep doing research, this is kinda cool.

>>17661640
From the German big 3, Audi probably makes the cheapest. The old belt-drive 4.2 is pretty much bulletproof and sounds great. Makes up to 360hp NA in stock form in the D2 S8, and about 300hp in most other cars.
BMW is mainly about straight-6 engines, although the E39 did come with V8 options but I've heard they're a bit maintenance-heavy. Don't know much about them, haven't really looked into them myself.
Mercedes has a bunch of awesome sounding V8s, but again, I haven't really looked into them and don't know much about pricing, maintenance and reliability although I suspect they're pretty good. They also have supercharged options available from certain AMG models.

Then there's Jaguar, with the AJ-V8, which sounds amazing and is very tuneable. Most Jags mostly had issues with the electronics, pretty sure the engines were solid.

And finally, the old Buick/Rover V8. Not the most powerful engine, but very light and with tons of aftermarket support. Originally 3.5 liters, but commonly bored and stroked up to 5 liters for racing purposes, it was good enough for TVR to power some of their complete madmanmobiles.

>>17661683

Thank you my man, I am again, saving this thread for future reference.


Just found a Jaguar S-type engine for 1800€. Looks like European V8 rev higher, which is kinda cool and this particular one does indeed sound good


>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UJ84r-KcSs

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>>17661691
Yeah, almost all Euro V8s are DOHC which allows them to rev higher, but it does make them very wide. I've looked up dimensions of the Audi block and the LS in the past and the 4.2 is about the same height and width, but 2/3rds the length of the LS and it weighs about the same. But hey, if an FC RX7 can fit a Ford Coyote (also DOHC) it can probably fit a Merc or Jag V8.

The Rover V8 is the exception here, as it's a very light and compact pushrod design.

>>17661704

What a beautiful car.

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>>17661704

I need to know now. Do weaboos get as mad when people Euro-V8 Swappity Sweep FC RX-7s compared to when people LS Swappitty Swoop them?

>>17661704
the rover v8 is also the shitheap of american v8s, shoveled off to a failing company in britian in hopes that it might one day make money. 40 years on however we recognise it as it is, fucking terrible.
what you want is a tvr v8. 420bhp at 4.5l. all n/a

>>17661737
No idea, I haven't seen any Euro-V8 swapped RX-7s before. It's more unique than the eternal LS, but it's still desecrating the holy dorito so it'll probably at least cause some outrage.

>>17661738

I didn't even know these cars existed. There's one being sold for only 10k

The TVR Chimera

>https://youtu.be/9Apj-SSA3h0?t=24
That's one of the best sound V8 engines I've ever heard.

>>17654175
Because it's retarded. You're paying 5k for a rx7 fd chassis to put a truck motor into it and the defense is that "well uhh it's a well balanced chassis I just don't like the dorito" white
But a fucking s14 chassis you can get a chassis for 800$. It better yet put your overrated truck. Motor back into a corvette shell, those are cheaper than fds too.

Ls swaps are fine it just depends on the chassis. The miata or the s13/14 chassis are perfect candidates and they're everywhere why on earth would you buy a expensive specia! snowflake car and jam a truck engine I. It it just makes no sense

>>17661813
Christ I hate my Keyboard and the Letters Are Too Small For Me To See My Mistakez

>>17661813
This

>It's a well balanced chassis!
>hard parks and highway pulls

>>17661813
>>17661821

I was going to buy a Miata, but they are retardedly expensive where I live. FC's, 944 and 240sx are way cheaper and in higher quantities.


Let's be honest, FC look a heck of a lo better than Miatas. Plus making JDM fanboys angry is part of the fun, someone's gotta be the counter culture to the counter culture. About time we make America number 1 again. Enough of this Jap cuckery.

>>17661844
If you're going to ruin an fc make sure it's a non turbo they're basically worthless anyway.
The s14 would be a better chassis tho, it's stiffer and lighter than the ancient fc.

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>>17661893

S14 doesn't have a Dorito engine to desecrate, though. You guys will not dissuade me from my goals. A Dorito engine must be sacrificed, in the name of America.

>>17661900
Alright so you buy a fc shell for 2k and you swap yer VEEYATE MOTORRR into it and stiffen the shit out of it and still get beat by a ka24 powered s14 at the track day. Brilliant. you should be a astrophysicist with your intellect

>>17661737
People don't buy Euroshit V8's to swap in because they usually lack the aftermarket or are just too expensive

>>17661923
>Track day
>implying that'll ever happen

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>>17654787
>Turbo LS 240
You gonna die my man

>>17661844
I'd just go with an FC with a busted engine or something. I like rotaries, but not exclusively.

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>>17661926

I see. well it beats being just another Euro cuck in cuckland getting fucked by legislations and nu-males with their 1.2ls.

>>17661923


>Track day

This would be a car for spirited driving at night, mostly solo riding with some fuel propelled slippery sausage action. This is a car for the soul, for romantic drivers. You wouldn't understand.

>>17661936

I need a functional engine to actually drive the car while I save the money for the engine swap. Plus I plan on upgrading basics, including riding skills before the powerplant change anyway.

>>17661950
I suppose you could sell it on later to someone who blew his engine, or someone who wants to rotary swap his car later on. Just throwing out a perfectly functional engine, any engine, is a damn shame.

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>>17661968

I was honestly planing to record myself burning the engine while Free Bird played in the background, alongside my new Bee Ate menacing growling noises.
Weaboo butthurtery galore.

>>17654260
>Maintaining a rotary costs a couple grand a year in oil, extra burnt gas, plugs, coils, and apex seals
Unless you remove the OMP and simply premix instead, yes you will have to add about 2-3 quarts of oil between oil changes (your buying more oil of some kind either way). Yes, the gas mileage is utter shit. My FD is almost stock and gets 18mpg highway on a good day. Yes, rotories do go through plugs quickly- 15,000 miles is the recommended lifespan. But coils should last for well over 100k miles and the only reason to replace them is to make more power.

Apex seals ARE NOT something that you can simply swap out. To do that properly would require an engine rebuild. I'm convinced that most /o/tists wouldn't even know what an apex seal looks like without Googling it. The main reason that those fail prematurely is user error. Bad owners who don't let the engine warm up before driving the car, don't use the right weight of oil and or keep it topped off, do bolt on mods like exhausts without getting the car tuned, not monitoring or controlling their boost, and the most common and deadly of all- letting the engine overheat.

Sort of unrelated, but on a similar topic here, I have a Ford focus that I want to V8 swap (with the krugal engine kit) does anyone know what's the best engine that will fit in that engine mount? It only accepts Ford engines if I recall. Was thinking of a modular V8.

>>17662441
V O O D O O
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>>17662447
Explain?

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>>17662464

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>>>17662524
>>17662535
>>17662599
Check this guy out, Weaboos. He's bringing the heat sooner that I'll be able too.

>>17654607
>>Implying you don't learn faster when you are scared as fuck for your life
>If you drive like a tranny, you'll only get good at driving like a granny.
>every novice driver should start out with a 1000+ horsepower supra
kys
big power doesn't make you fast being a good driver makes you fast.
Unless its drag """"racing"""

>>17661640
american v8's sound like a sick fucking tractor
Euro v8's sound like exotic sports car and make more power per liter since the engineers are not forced to use their bodyparts for measurments

>>17662881
You're a massive fag if you don't like the rumble of a big American V8 with a hot cam.

>>17654607
>Implying you don't learn faster when you are scared as fuck for your life
yeah because that works for all the old men, old women and numales who are deathly afraid of speed, road noise, g-forces and the police, stopping dead on a 55mph road to take a right hand turn into a parking lot because they're afraid their suspension will snap into pieces if the approach the sidewalk ramp at anything faster than 1mph, but they focus so much on completely inconsequential shit that they don't take a wide enough turn, block traffic for a whole 30 seconds and STILL manage to curb the rear wheel.

you're fucking retarded, learning is best accomplished in a focused environment where all your attention can be on the task at hand. You then layer on complexity as you master the individual aspects of the task.

>>17654175
RX7s aren't Korean though

Lmao, you realize an Rx7 burns about half a quart between oil changes right? That's less than most piston engines I've seen. If anything is the problem, it's fuel economy. They are not fragile engines if you are a competent tuner. They're much easier and cheaper to rebuild, too. Over 500 to the wheels is ridiculously attainable with a modern single and meth injection, and that would cost you about the same as an LS swap, except you're making more power and shaving weight from the front.

The LS is absolutely a light engine, but it's got nothing on a rotary. LS with t56 is over 600 lbs. 13b rew with tranny, intercooler and ALL accessories including air pump is 430, and you can shave off more than 100 from that. 300 lbs in the front of your car is a huge difference, not to mention that weight will sit farther forward, wider, and taller. Don't listen to what people say when they post corner weights before and after swapping, and the weight "didn't change". They have USDM cars with 2 massive catalytic converters, ac, power steering, and stock mufflers, which total well over 200 lbs,and are mostly things you should delete.

>>17662908
As someone who works at a tuning/engine building shop, we have seen more 2jzs pop (cylinder 1 and 6y'all) than rotaries, and don't get me started on rb26s

In Japan the FC and FD don't carry the reputation for unreliability. Quite the opposite in comparison with the other cars of the time.

>>17662855

Yeah, I agree. That's why I am not doing the swapping until I improve as a rider and do other basic mods.

>>17662881

Mnah, some Europan V8 sound dead as fuck

>>17662897

Calm down, I am going to be driving everynight for at least 6 months before changing the powerplant. Plenty of time to get prep.


>>17662907

The fuck does that mean?

>>17662908
>>17662919

I just like V8's better.

>>17662970
If you like V8s better then swap an FC not an FD. or get a corvette.

>>17663025

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pay_-WMK_Y


V8 literally makes the RX-7 better, my duderino.

>>17661932
It'll be fine

>>17663036
>Fatt Marah says something
>IT IS NOW A FACT
lmao

Rotaries are only unreliable for mouthbreathing retards

>>17663346

Cool, I'll be a mouth breathing retard with a V8 RX-7.

>>17663434
No you won't, because none of it is going to happen. You're just talking shit on a Taiwanese bean counting forum

>>17663459

Whatever makes you sleep better at night

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>>17654175
Oh hey, another lazy faggot.

If you want to swap LS just buy a C5 vette and strip it to make it light.
RX7 is for people who WANT and NEED to put extra effort into their ride.

If you want reliability get an old benz or toyota.

People like you are the darkside of RX7 fandom

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>>17663681

>the darkside of RX7 fandom


Hahahahahahaham, I can't believe you just quoted that fucking furry with tourettes that reviews cars.

>>17663732
I even rewatched that to remember myself what he said.

But it still stands. People who swap RX7 dont want RX7, they want others to think, and to say they have RX7.

I get swapping in RX8 since it's basically a family car, but RX7 does not deserve it.

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>>17663681
>>17663732

While posting a fucking crusade soldier who is supposed to be against degeneracy. Jesus christ, the level of self awareness these weaboos fucking have.

>>17663750

It'll be my car, not yours. I can do it whatever I want, if I feel like buying an RX-7 just to burn it, I can.


Do I go to your fucking home and tell you how to shave your balls?

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>>17663757
>It'll be my car, not yours. I can do it whatever I want, if I feel like buying an RX-7 just to burn it, I can.

True, but the OP posted
>Give me a reason why one shouldn't do that.

That's my reason, rx7 simply does not deserve it. After you toss the rotors away it will not be the same, with LS it will not even resemble RX7. You will of course do what you want, but why even start the thread if you sperg when someone responds.

>Do I go to your fucking home and tell you how to shave your balls?
Would you If I asked?

>>17663750
>People who swap RX7 dont want RX7, they want others to think, and to say they have RX7.
Yeah, because having an rx7 is such an accomplishment in life
Fucking LMAO HOLY SHIT
This is the cringiest shit I've read in weeks

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>>17663791
>an accomplishment

The point is that buying one of very few rotary powered cars, just to swap a regular engine into it is pointless.

Why not buy any other from myriads of non-rotary powered ones?

Stop acting retarded

>>17663779

>why even start the thread if you sperg when someone responds.

It's genuinely entertaining

>Would you If I asked?

No idea my man, mine looks like a freaking jungle down there.

>>17663808
>It's genuinely entertaining
I sometimes forget /o/ is still 4chins, other then 'vette vs gt' posting and twingo love

>No idea my man, mine looks like a freaking jungle down there.

shaving balls is a chore, I always cut myself even with electric shaver.

>>17663806
Why not use an rx7?
It's already a good fit for a swap.

>>17661813
An alloy LS weighs the same as a turbo rotary setup.

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>>17660226
>>17660460
>doing things solely to spite people
you have to be 18 to post here

>>17664279
>getting ass blasted cause someone is swaping a motor you don't like into a car you like
Face it the rotary is flawed no matter how hard you shit post on here it won't change

>>17664743
>implying I'm talking about this specific scenario
>implying I'm not making a generalized statement
Doing things just to spite people is childish, no matter the circumstance.

>>17663036
Holy shit neck yourself, if you're not a virgin you're a sister fucker

>>17664279
>>17664929

Are you new here?

>>17665780

That's it pal. Burning the Dorito, with no survivors.

op you are a special breed of autist

fuck you

>>17654324
I fucked your pussy

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>>17666025

OH YEAH BABY

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>>17666066

You'll remember me every time you eat Doritos, specially the hot flaming kind.

>>17654175
It's literally pointless, just buy a Corvette and stop being a dumbass.

>>17668780
Why did you bump this?

>>17668780

No

>>17668787

He likes it rough.

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>>17668029

A weak liberal queer like you would never understand.

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>>17669053
>>17669059
>>17669077

I am effeminate, I do have a female soul. What you guys don't get is that my female soul has a male soul being repressed inside and it wants to come out.


Tired of repressing by being a neet with no ambitions and goals in life, expecting and acting like people or life owes me something just for existing, hate on boomers for their successes in life, blaming others for my failures, shitposting in 4chan with animue smug girls to satiate my loneliness and fear of existence. No more repression, now I am a man and make my own money, have my own goals.

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>>17669336

Can you feel the COOL VIBRATIONS? If not, you will. V8 will make the little peanuts you have for balls dance to the rhythm of my now wild and unpressed male identifying gender.

>>17669352
You're not even American, you stupid ameriboo.

>>17669361

Wrong, every country belongs to America. Thus I am already in America. Didn't you get the fucking memo?

>>17669373
You've never posted a picture or any sort of proof so yeah nah

>>17669402
>hanakoposting
Fuck you for giving me these feels.

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Shouldn't this fucking spic be building the wall?

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>>17669428
>>17669436

Hey, Suits me fine. More jobs for Americans, now that ICE will be at full speed.


You're getting the cold touch.

>>17654357
What did you get the engine from?

>>17669449

>.t lazy neet commie who thinks he won't have to work a day of his life expecting for the singularity, anyday now


Wow, I rather work 15h ours a day for minimum wage than being in your position, no memes.

>>17669452

It brings jobs to Americans, it must hurt your feelings.

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>>17669513

>I was dead straight in my assumption


It's getting easier identifying losers, you all say the exact same shit. No wonder you spend so much time shitposting to excuse a tripname. You can't even maintain a car, let alone buy one.
What a waste. Get ahold of yourself, kid.

>>17669457
Silverado, 5.3

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>>17669531

I am my own ''abuser'', kid.
>waaah I have to make money to live
>waaaah stop abusing me, mom!!!


Look dude, whatever. I'll do me, you do you.

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>>17669550

I'll take that as a yes.

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>>17669591

We all do, kiddo. To have an objective version of reality, would mean to know it all and for all of us to know and understand exactly the same things.

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>>17669612

Beats being a spic

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>>17669625
>>17669633
You can't even make your own country stable, good luck conquering the US. Chinamen will rule the world, alongside Jews.

>>17669625

That looks like a Spaniard, not a spic.

strange that alphonse and soviet always start posting at the exact same time when in russia the timezones don't even align with ours, supposedly a teacher, is up in the middle of the night on 4chan, posts the same anime reaction pics as alphonse, uses the same gtr vs corvette and ford shilling etc

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>>17669699

Spaniard means, from Spain. You mongoloid.


Also

>>I don't know what Hispanic means
>Fernando Martinez is cuban

Pic related is what appears in google images, looks like a fucking Muslim to me.

And nothing of value was lost.

>>17669754
>everybody I don't like is a republican says the underage black kid living in section 8 housing

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If you say so, at the end of the day you are just another depressed neet with no ambition or hopes. We honest with me, do you even own a car?

>>17669761
He doesn't own a car, I gave him a ride home after I met him.
He would have taken the bus otherwise, that's why I gave him a ride.

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>>17669764

I see, well. You are a good man, Mrcrummy.

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>>17668029
>>17669053
lmao shitposter so strong he got deleted out of assmad
nobody has actually argued against his points

it had to happen some day...

>>17669793

Just beautiful

>>17654315
Sit down me boyo and let me let ye a tale. Many moons ago, lets call these the sweet years, LS swaps weren't as common and teenage fagos were wrecking their daddy's firebirds and corvettes left and right. The engines had been around for several years now, so prices of legit LS1's and LS6's werent so fuckall retarded. Boomers prefered their 350s and big blocks because computers and anything without a carburetor scare them. Uncle did his ls1 + 4l60 swap on his camaro for around $2500 at this time. Boomer mags like Hot Rod kept publishing their articles on LS swaps and the aftermarket caught up to make the swaps easier and keep the boomers pacemakers from going off. That didnt completely flood the market though. What ended up skyrocketed shit into fucking oblivion is when the import crowd stopped smack talking and started seeing what a lightweight aluminum v8 could do on the track and they started swapping. This was cool and all, supply and demand and whatnot, but then you get these hipster fags that pay 7k for a fucking 240 shitbox and ls swap and stance it to be "original" now, finding a 5.3 or 6.0 truck block seem to be the only feasible option as a starting point for unnecessarily angry poorfags like me that just want to join the LS club. Reeeeeee potato

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>>17654175
>Why do purists get buttmad when people LS swap JDM cars?

Because they aren't drift faggots.

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>>17660246

>>17672334
Ty ty, now get your ma to buy me some lotto tickets like a good boy, and I'll let you have a sip of some of my shitty beer as a reward.

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>>17671072
Thanks for the story grandpa.
But aren't you a boomer?

>>17673204
I'm 27, so close enough, I'd say.

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>>17657011
Nice obsession

>>17673194
fuck off alphonse

>>17674341
soviet =/= alphonse

nice obsession tho

>>17674344
>t. alphonse

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>>17675217
nice try, engine swaps are illegal in the eurabian peninsula

>>17675217
go 1uz

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>>17675437
>mfw this autist will get BTFO once he hears how much a respectable shop will charge him to homologate his LS swap

top kek, you really have no idea do you?

the homologation process alone is going to be expensive as fuck

please, for the love of god, do kep us updated on how try to pay for the cost of having your LS swapped rx7 homologated and built by a professional shop, it is ought to be a good story

btw I can get away with any engine swap here lol

>>17675454
WTF forgot my name

also, the law strictly says that you can only change the engine for a similar one, meaning same amount of cylinders and same displacement

http://www.motorzoom.es/mundo-auto/articulo/cambio-del-motor-original-cuando-debemos-homologar/70991/

top kek, literally eurocucked!!

>>17675467
if you change the same engine, in order to install a completely different a shop must do the work and certify that it is safe, which is expensive as fuck

>spends all day shitposting about how superior LS swap are
>engine swaps are illegal in spain to begin with

top kek!!

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>>17675506
>30k dollars

kek

>>17675657

>He thinks 30k is a lot

>>17675489
>we can't have engine swaps so they are dumb
Are you even aware of how sour your grapes are right now?

>>17677907
I am not from some cucked european country, dumb furfaggot

>>17677927
Worse, mexico right?

>>17677927

Ins't Mexico a fucking shithole, though?

>>17677961
>doesn't even deny he's a bean
LMAO

>>17677961

>A real human bean

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni9FCzIOX2w