/CCG/ - Classic Car General That's Not a Drawing edition.

>>17645919
>Spray carb cleaner around the base of the carb, where the manifold interfaces with the head, et cetera.

Yep, there was a leak at the base. Thought I had the adapter plate down tight but apparently not. Works better now, though still has a bit of a bog, though much more manageable than before.

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My Bronco really used to be a fucking pile

>>17651805
Well now that you've corrected the vacuum leak your tune may no longer be correct.

>>17651820
I did return the idle mixture with vacuum gauge....is it supposed to be done in drive for an automatic? That's how I did it.

As for the jetting and such, well, when I ordered the carb all I said was the that it was a 225 slant 6 at about 800ft ASL.

I did not find any other leaks with the carb cleaner, I sprayed all around the manifold, brake booster, carb plates, distributor.

Next step I guess is a compression test...

>>17651854
*redo the idle mixture

>>17651790
How do I de-bug a car that's been sitting?

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Had some boomer wanting to trade a 77 monza and 41 delux for my customline. Shame the delux was a rusted pos. Kept saying how it was rust free (car is covered in rust, floors are gone and there are holes everywhere). I wouldnt have minded the 5 min drive to look except he kept saying the 53 isnt worth anything compared to his "highly desired chevy."

>>17651883
How rare are things like those marker glass housings

>>17651861
Park it in the hot ass sun

>>17651854
Is the engine actually a 225?
Does it have EGR?

>>17651861
Yuk. That shit scares the shit out of me. Fucking windows down, doors open and like spoobfeedme said, park it in the hot ass sun. Then go through everything with a can of bug spray handy.

>>17651937
They're one of the few bits that are legitimately expensive on these cars. My advice; buy a rusty parts car.

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>>17652024
>spoob

>>17651995
>>17652024
I doubt parking it in the sun will work, that's how it's been for the past year or so. I'm thinking pressure wash the shit out of the outside and vacuum/detail the interior, see where that gets me

>>17651995
Unless someone swapped in another one, yes, the codes say 225.

>EGR?

Is this it? (Not my engine) If so, it's not hooked up

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>>17652081
>Forgets pic

>>17651861
Bug bomb it.

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>>17651995
Also, what's this piece circled in red? Again not my engine, but my car has it. Old air cleaner (old one wouldn't work with new carb) had a fitting for it but new one doesn't.

>>17652056
Kek. I covet a Glock now senpai. Also is there a safe way to service my C6 auto? Flush? Chemicals? What can I do.

>>17652068
>I doubt parking it in the sun will work,
Do you leave it covered? My Corvair is like a bug graveyard right now.


>>17652087
>>17652081
Yes that's EGR, pull it off and turn it 180 degrees, rtv the bolt holes and the sides and run it like that to see if it runs better. The connection is on the inside of the device.
>>17652108
Not sure, mine doesn't have that. If yours has the doodad hooked to the air cleaner that's most likely why it's hesitating.

>>17652124
As noted, that EGR pic is not my car. Should I just find a place to plug it in?

As for the other piece, it had an air cleaner like the pic, so it was just being sucked in BEFORE the venturies. Right now It's just got tape over it and it seems to be holding. It bolts onto the block right behind the #6 exhaust.

>>17652148
Pretty good chances your EGR and all of the exhaust passages for it are completely plugged with Carbon, No one ever seemed to replace those back in the day

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>>17652148
>As noted, that EGR pic is not my car. Should I just find a place to plug it in?
No, there is no external connection to the EGR plate even though it looks like there is. When the exhaust gets hot it pushes open a valve which lets the exhaust leak into the intake manifold. The only way to stop this is to flip the whole thing 180 degrees or spend like $70 for a block off plate.
If your 225 is old though it might cause it to knock a little bit.


>As for the other piece, it had an air cleaner like the pic,
Not sure if we're on the same page exactly.
I'm talking specifically about the OSAC valve, The consensus is that it does nothing but make your engine run like shit just to meet emissions.

Why don't you take a picture of your engine?>>17652204
And this, my EGR was caked but still functional, blocking it off reduced some of the hesitation.

>>17652228
>Whyt don't you take a picture
I will when it's day. Anyway, I don't think it's OSAC, it plugged into the bottom of the air cleaner, with no valve on that end of the hose.

>>17652305
I'll have to go take a gander at mine then tomorrow and see if it have it. It's probably not causing any problems though.

>>17652320
I doubt it'd cause problems since it vented into the air cleaner and so wouldn't use vacuum,

>>17652354
Sounds like some crude PCV contraption. Doe you have a hose coming from the valve cover to hook onto the carb?

>>17652059
Kek

>>17652113
Maybe dump some trans-x additive in there to clean it up. Use the procedure I outlined in the last thread to flush it.

>>17652404
Yes, I have a true vlave-cover PCV valve hooked into the base of carb.

>>17652448
wow m8 you have a mutant engine or something i ain't never heard of that.

>>17652478
Well it has the Super 225 setup retrofitted from a 78 Aspen, the car is 71.

>>17651790
My turd gen has some random 350 swapped in and it needs a battery. How do I know what battery to go with? Also are those shitty $50 batteries from walmart worth it? I'm kinda broke lol

>>17652108
>>17652124
That's a check valve for an exhaust air injection system.

That was the '60s/70s solution for having too much unburned hydrocarbons in the exhaust: Jam some fresh air in there and let it burn.
Or, y'know, get catalyzed.

Completely unnecessary unless you live in an area which requires emissions tests.

>>17652674
Just buy one that will fit in the battery tray, around 600-650 CCA

>>17652848
Thanks bro. Gonna need to cut the battery tray out sometime. It's all rusted out...

>>17652445
I'll take a look

>>17651790
How much is an old carb worth? I've got a couple laying around. I think they're 4 barrels

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Yay, my car applies.

>1984 Jeep CJ-7
>Lots of work. Got the car for free from my mother as a graduation present, but needed a lot of new shit because the carburetor flooded.
>Been advised to sell the thing, still holding on to it because its got true character, something the new Jeeps lack.

No rust, somehow after laying in a field for years through pouring rain and other obstacles. You jelly?

Fucking shit, I'm so not used to the parking brake being in such a weird ass place, I drove all the way to a restaurant (~1.5mi) with it on, barely any resistance

How fucked is it/am I

>>17652911
Depends on the model. A thermoquad won't be worth as much as a period 750 holley double pumper

>>17652911
Dirty pieces that need a rebuild, maybe $20, $40
Clean and ready to go, it depends what they are.

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>>17652973
>His parking brake doesn't automatically release when put into gear
Also if you didn't even notice the lack of power, that means your brake barely holds and you drums and/or cable needs adjusting.
Properly working E-brakes shouldn't even let the car move when put in gear unless you give it more gas

>>17652973
Probably not very.

Worst case, you toasted the shoes and drum. Did you smell hot brakes? How hot were the drums when you stopped and realized what had happened?

Best case, the parking brake cable is out of adjustment and it did nothing.

But, you should find a hard-packed dirt lot somewhere and do a skid test. Get up to about 20 mph and mash the brakes.
Put it in park/neutral, get out, and look at the skid marks.

If the rears don't skid, you should pull the drums and have a look in there to see why they're not working.

>>17652925
Nice Jeep, and they are easy to keep running reliably if you do preventive maintenance instead of waiting for shit to break. Parts are cheap so what's not to like?

If I didn't need pickup trucks I'd get (or assemble from aftermarket parts) a CJ-7 and mod it to suit my preferences.

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>>17626768 →
>>17626802 →

Look for options to mate a T56 to it and just be done.


Also, mustang update. Got some clips and a front spoiler to go along with the new mach 1 hood

>>17652925
Jelly of a Jeep? Not now or ever, it's a Chrysler product

>>17653022
I don't think t56 mates to a bop bell housing

>>17652925
Am pretty jelly. Those just keep climbing in value if they're kept in decent running condition. Keep it, could turn into a piece of retirement fund.

>>17653108
>Sending money to the machinist Jew
But you're better off going with a tr6060 or a magnum with a built big block

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>>17653126
In an effort to not sound too smug or pretentious i deleted that. But apparently the McLeods are really good

http://www.jegs.com/p/McLeod/McLeod-Modular-SFI-Bellhousings/2789048/10002/-1

I'm planning something that involves mounting a T56 or higher to a big block olds, and reportedly the Mcleod plates/housing combination just bolt together

>>17653126
>>17653148
also you're probably not wrong about the tr6060 being a better choice, but unless you're making ridiculous torque you're fine with just a t56, its cheaper and will handle upwards of 600lb/ft

>>17653154
They're both great choices desu

I still like the idea of a built 3 speed auto with a gear vendors unit. Muh drag times

>>17653174
Yeah, but muh mpg

>>17653198
>Gear vendors unit
Bruh

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I'm about to send in my order to summit for my transmission swap and some other odds and ends on the Pontiac 400. Could someone look this over to see if I have ordered something wrong. I'm reusing my starter from the 403 and the water pump pulley. I've got motor mounts coming from somewhere else and the power steering/ alternator bracket. I already have a flexplate and the motor is coming with the distributor, plugs, and plug wires.

>>17653218
Well, i dont actually have anything to say to that... I saw 3-speed and forgot about the gear vendors part of the sentence.

Do Overdrives perform as efficiently as a tranny simply with higher gears?

Welp I sold the datsun for my asking price. Not bad considering I bought it for 1200 and never spent any money on it. The guy is kind of a cholo but at least he wants to keep it original

>>17653002
>>His parking brake doesn't automatically release when put into gear
Was this already a thing in 1969?

>>17653005
>Best case, the parking brake cable is out of adjustment and it did nothing
I'm hoping this is the case because it's been pretty weak already. Truck still stops, so brakes are alive. Have to pump them sometimes, the pedal went all the way to the floor the other and scared the shit out of me, had to kill the motor and let it stall out in an empty lot and wait for the drums to cool down

>>17653268
That's all it is really, it's another transmission that has a high and low.

Fun thing is that you can turn a 3 speed effectively into a 6 speed with a gear vendors.

You can also have two reverse speeds.

>>17653275
My 68 Lincoln has a vacuum release E-brake and I think the earlier Continentals did as well

>>17653285
>vacuum release parking brake

that sounds almost as awful as an electronic release parking brake.

>>17653303
How so? Do you think it can't be released manually?

>>17653229
ive heard a lot of horror stories about buying cheap transmissions from online, id do some serious research on that box before ordering

>>17653350
Summit has pretty good reviews on them, That's why I chose it rather than having it rebuilt by a local guy who has some pretty bad reviews on his shop.

>>17653396
just to add to it, Most of the bad reviews I see are from people using them for racing or putting them together wrong but for DDing my trans am to and from college I think a tci will be okay.

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>clean as fuck cordoba with 60k miles for $3600
>drove from cali to texas
>the ad is from two months ago and the dude sounds 90 years old on his voicemail
fuck, now that it's probably gone I only want it more

>>17653350
>>17653396
summit have been pretty good to me. When fedex lost my electronic ignition kit they overnighted me a replacement. They've accepted some returns no questions asked as well

>>17653472
That's why I like summit, Hopefully that transmission will hold up if not I'm sure summit will help me out.

>>17653485
>>17653472
i have no doubts about summit im just sketched out by some of the products they end up with.
i was looking for an auto box for my truck a while back and almost bought one till i dug further into the company selling them and found out you get a big fuck you by the manufacturer when you have issues that are fairly common and that should be warranty on the boxes they ship

>>17653523
I'm currently reading reviews and no doubt they have some shitty customer service but on the other hand I'm not going to be racing the car and all the people saying that they are terrible blew theirs up while racing. Most of the people saying they're amazing just use it for regular driving like I'm planning on doing.

>>17653268
They apparently only use about 1 or 2 horsepower. It's a super strong cone type clutch. All the top guys at drag week rock them to lower rpms at highway speeds

>>17653028
That particular one is an AMC product.

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Say hello to my NEW daily driver:

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>>17651790
I managed to find the plates that were on the truck when I got it. I couldn't remember when it was last registered so this is pretty cool, It's been over 20 years since it was registered last.

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>>17656262
You might enjoy this, I want to do it sometime with the orange Ford. I'll need to save up a lot of cash though

http://www.roadkill.com/tally-ho-two-english-students-traverse-united-states-78-lincoln/

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So i got an offer for my 53 ferd. A 74 dart swinger with a /6. They said the carb sometimes floods, it needs an alighmment, tires, and the front grill and all put back on. They say it runs and drive. Whatelse should i look for?

>>17656302
Yeah; even the spitting image of my car, too.

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I rememeber looking at this car before (it was raining, and ot was the guys wife showing it to me despite not knowing anything about it) and it wouldnt even turn over (no clicking, figured dead battery). The interior seemed in pretty condition and didnt see any rust on the body.

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Do you think it's a good successor?

>>17656318

Don't do it unless you really like the car. A bodies have a pretty good after market, but the 74 is ugly IMO. 70 was best A body year.

It's an old mopar, rust RUST RUUUUUST. Check everything over and make sure you're willing to do the work instead of settling because you want out of the Ford.

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This 6 looks much more complicated than my 66s... granted it didnt have power anything or ac.

>>17656352

The further along you go, the more bullshit they stuck in there for emissions controls and the like. 69 was the beginning of the end for simple and quick DIY engine repairs. Thanks, clean air act.

>>17656349
Not settling, i just like darts. Granted it is a little too new for me, but i figured why not go look at it.

>>17656368
How hard would it be to rip all that stuff out?

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>>17656370

I like Darts too, I had a 65 with a /6. Great car, but unless they had rare options they aren't worth a lot. The A body was Chrysler's economy throwaway car, so just keep that in mind for future trading/selling.

>>17656382

Honestly, I've never had a vehicle newer than 69, so I wouldn't know. Probably a huge pain in the ass, it was all engineered in so the engine won't run right without it.

>>17656396
Ya, my 4 door 66 i only sold for 1500, but it was in rough shape.

Just noticed on their cl ad the title is salvage... shit. I wonder if thats why the front is off.

Also had a guy offering a 69 Nova with a 350, apart from it looking pretty rough, it had a 2spd in it.. i imagine thats pretty shitty for a cruiser.

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>>17656414

The powerglide isn't bad, that's what my 65 Impala has. Last time I measured, I was getting around 15mpg at highway speed. You'll be cranking some RPMs at 65+ though. Good news is, they were designed for it. Not sure how it would translate with a 350 though.

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>>17656414
Correction. A 71 nova.

>>17656428
What does your impala have?

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>>17656454

283

>>17656460
I thought you were selling the 65?

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The 71 nova

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>>17656464

Nah, going to sell the Polara and the International, keep the Impalas. The 65 is pretty much done. Just need to get the front seat reupholstered and it'll be 100%. No sense selling it for another money pit. Might as well have something nice. The 67 needs a lot, it's a great cruiser, but I'll be dumping money into that for a good year or five before it's in the same condition as the 65.

>>17653028
Mine is made in 1984, when Jeep was a subsidiary of American Motors.

>>17656466
I love novas, my dad had one. It was an i6 and he did a chevy 350/th350 swap. I think eventually it had a 383 but I can't remember since he sold it before I was born. Wish he didn't sell it since I'd probably be driving it instead of my Trans am.

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>>17656318
Spray the hood with a hose, if water ends up near the pedals you'll have to redo the wipers and clean the cowl. out.
>>17656349
You're ugly IMO

>>17656382
You don't necessarily want to rip everything out. Only OSAC and EGR reduced performance on a slant six.

>>17656396
>The A body was Chrysler's economy throwaway car,
Not necessarily, i'd like to point out that Chrysler Taxis were usually B body cars

>>17656661

>You're ugly

y-you too

>Not necessarily, etc etc

Yeah, I didn't mean for fleet stuff though, for people who couldn't afford or didn't want bigger cars.. B body is much worse for enthusiasts. It's like pulling teeth to find parts for my Polara.

>>17656661
Well it just rained, so i guess that will let me know if anything is fucked.

>>17656746
>so i guess that will let me know if anything is fucked.
Oh it will.

>>17656673
>It's like pulling teeth to find parts for my Polara.
I thought Satellite parts are interchangeable.

>>17656352
If you get the car and do an AC delete, sell me the compressor/bracket/evaporator. I could use it in my truck

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Hmmm... front is dicolored....

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>>17656959
And how fucked is this?

>>17656969

Looks like that specific "rotten trunk pan & associated areas" kind of fucked.

>>17656979
So i should pass?

>>17657032

Can't hurt to look it over with your own eyes, just make sure to be thorough.

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>>17651790
Should I even bother flushing this thing? I doubt it works very well

>>17651790
Stupid question but how street able are 2400 stalls on a torque converter?

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>>17652320
Here's pics of mine. I've simply taped off the valve and it's still there....and bottom pic is where the tube goes.

>>17657941
I've heard of many people using them on the street

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I bought a 1967 D 100 short box 2wd slant 6 today for $100

Tell me how I did

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Fucking runs, drives and even stops....

>>17658978
>>17658969

Jelly. There's awesome man. How'd you manage that deal?

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>>17658093
>>17652320
>>17652354
>>17652305
>>17652228
>>17652148

It's air injection. Like I said in >>17652819

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_air_injection

> During engine idle, brief but periodic negative pressure pulses in the exhaust system draw air through the aspirator valve and into the exhaust stream at the catalytic converter. This system, marketed as Pulse Air, was used by American Motors, Chrysler, and other manufacturers beginning in the 1970s

Chevrolet used a similar system, except with a pump.
http://www.camaros.org/emissions.shtml

Have some fucking (You)s in case some of this makes it's way through your thick skulls.

God damn.

>>17659066
Ahh, I see

...well, fuck you too

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>>17651790
How bad's this? Besides the shite on the rear end

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>>17659015
The owner of another shop down the road from mine needed it gone... he knew I wanted it, and he doesn't have enough room at his shop to hang onto it
Tecond chat and I bought it

Switched out the gay tires and wheels before I left work and drove it home

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>>17656661
>duster

My nigga...

AHHHHHHH

the datsun title wasnt a salvage after all. It was rebuilt in florida and when it was transferred to texas it was issued a blue title. Ffs it's worth at least a grand more than I asked for it and I've already got a guy coming to pick it up tmr. I don't even know if I want to sell now but it would be a massive dick move to pull out

>>17659698
rip u

>>17656597
Bluedisconova glad to see you finally admit the nova belongs to your dad and not you

>>17660291
He never claimed it was solely his car though, he always worded it as a "father and son car" and we've always known it's his fathers

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>>17651790
My 1978 Toyota Celica

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>>17660312
Shit wrong pic

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before the winter hits I hope to have all the suspension swapped out with some oem I've been eyeballing
>>17651790

>>17657181
The buildups probably plugging all the holes

>>17661053
>japshit
>classic
Pick one

>>17657181
take a hose and spray the outside to get some of that dirt off, then you should flush it.

Unless it leaks there's no reason why a (clean) radiator wouldn't work

>>17651790
does a choke normally make a car idle kinda rough/slow? I drove my grandpa's old Nova this morning and it was idling a tad rough. I've heard that normal for old cars when it's cold but in the middle of summer?

>>17661783
Absolutely, if the choke isn't adjusted properly for each season then it could be over fueling the car longer than need be, otherwise if that's adjusted, then the idle mixture screws need to be adjusted as well

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>>17660291
I'm not that guy, My dad sold it before I was born. I'm the dude with the matte 79 trans am that's currently getting an engine swap.

Took my Bronco on a 40 mile round trip highway drive last night to my buddy's house.

It's actually not too bad running it at 70. It wasn't completely wound out, and besides some minor vibration from all my shot engine mounts, it was legitemately pleasant.

There's just something about cruising in a classic truck at night with the windows down. Its very calming. I rolled down the front windows and the tailgate window. Gets a very good draft going through the truck to keep you cool.

Im trying to diagnose a check engine light but my OBD1 scanner requires turning the car off then to accessory for a flash code. But turning my car off makes the light go away until I turn it on and drive a little bit again.

Anyone else here have obd1 with this problem? I think i already diagnosed the issue but am trying to confirm.

>>17660334
>>17660312
nice car. miles?

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>>17662495

Makes me miss my Caprice.

>>17662443
You'll have to get a blink code from shorting out two pins on the OBD plug, or by other means, what vehicle and what year?

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>>17662113
Quick update on the 400 swap if anyone is interested. I'm currently planning everything out on where the fuel lines and transmission lines are going to run. I guess the factory ran the fuel lines across the frame on Pontiac 400 cars so I'm going to have to modify my line to do that too. Because of that I was curious if anyone ever used braided fuel line with those "AN" fittings? I'm thinking about upgrading to those at some point because that routing just seems like it would make a fuel boiling issue since it goes really close to the motor but it was factory so I guess it'll be okay. Other than that I've still got 2 weeks until the motor gets here and a huge ass summit order should be here at any time.

>>17662850
i figured it out, it apparently blinks code 12 which is "no problems" 3 times before flashing your actual code.

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>>17651790
Rear frame rails are rusted out and trunk is completely gone.
Have all new metal sand new rails
Dunno how to weld or do body work and I'm broke as fuck all the time now.
It's sat in my garage for ~6 years now
Feels bad man.

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sexy.

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64 that I picked up for $3000.

>>17663821
Chevy product?

>>17663840
When my dad crashed his 74 trans am, my grandpa chopped the front half of it off and welded half a car back on. Go for it, just take your time

>>17662927
Good luck man. It'll be well worth it to get a good motor in there

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Do you think cars could ever look this good again?

The more I see modern concepts and design the further away God's light seems...

>>17664196
No, they never will and never could

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>>17664221
you're supposed to give me hope, anon

>>17664234
Go complain to the government and their safety shit

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>>17664196
You do know that aerodynamics are a thing know, right?
Volvo 740, Mercedes W124, Lada 2107, Toyota AE82, they are all dead models. Their successors have little to none similarities.
That is why Lada is finest of the finest. From 1982 all the way to 2012 in case of Lada 2107

>>17664196
No, but nothing's stopping you from buying an old car

>>17664048
Replacing the nose of these cars is a lot less complex than the same on the rear end

>>17664060
Thanks! I can't wait to drive my car again. The guy building it said that 400 hp out of it would be pretty easy with a carb upgrade and some tuning. I'm sure he's over exaggerating the output a bit but that'll be quite the upgrade regardless from a near bone stock 403.

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>Cars are considered classic at 25 years old

Sorry, some cars will never be "classics". Nobody in their right mind waxes poetic about a 92 Tercel, nor will the ever.

>>17664474
by law they are considered classic, doesn't mean people think they are

>>17659066
Fuck you and your emissions bro.

>>17659579
>General Duster

is $4500 for a merc 1985 merc 190e 5 speed manual that doesn't run a good deal? he said it ran when parked about a month ago, and that it turns over but doesn't ignite. My guess is that its a battery problem.

>>17664604
No that is a shit deal. A coworker of mine just bought a 93 500c mercedes running and driving with driveability or functionality issues for $2000. Interior and exterior was in decent shape for its age too. Had some pretty good oil leaks but it worked fine.

>>17664604
And how did you get to the conclusion that it could be a problem problem?
>Hint, it's not a battery problem if it turns over
Also not worth $4500 if it doesn't run, unless it's in very good shape

>>17664658
Sorry, with no* xxxxx issues

Do any of the ford guys know where the fuck the blower motor resistor pack will be located on my Bronco? 78 model. I somehow just stumbled across the entire shop sized wiring diagram for that truck and I'm still going through it, but I need to located the resistor pack.

>>17664658
>>17664659
the only other manual for sale is $4300 and doesn't have road worthy.
and I figured it would be a battery problem because it doesn't ignite. and its in pretty good condition, better than the only other manual available. I can always take a mechanic with me to do an on sight inspection to find out what's wrong with it.

>>17664682
Where do you live? As somedude stated, it is not a battery issue if it cranks but does not ignite.

>>17664751
aus. the manual 190E is rare as fuck here, which is why I'm so keen on it.

>>17664472
400hp is easy to make on a 400.

>>17664757
Oh, im a Texas fag, so I have no clue what its worth over there.

>>17664604
Gas or diesel?
Diesel then you'll probably spend triple what you paid trying to isolate the issue. I've never had a problem firing off a diesel after sitting for multiple months.

>>17662586
just hit 200k

>>17664823
To add to this, if it's cranking and puffing smoke it's not firing because the block is too cold. Basically what my tractor does every winter because it doesn't have glow plugs.

>>17664823
petrol. all I know is that it doesn't ignite. I'll take a mechanic with me to check it out, cause I don't know what to look for

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>>17664474
>>17664516
>MFW I DD a '91

How common the car is plays a huge part in it being a "classic". Hell, the roundnose Ford pickup can now be considered a "classic" but god damn, I see a couple dozen each day. There were billions upon billions of those damn things made.

In 30 years, when they've filtered through the Mexican landscaping crews and there's just a few left, yeah maybe they can be classics. But certainly not now.

As for the 4th gen Tercel, well, it's a superb little shitbox. Reliable and very economical.

And I only see two or three a year :^)

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>>17651790
After working with a carb, I think I'd rather just go fuel injection in any future projects. I'm sure it is due to my inexperience, but still fuel injection just has too many benefits(besides cost)

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My 1970 LeMans (and 2002 GV250). Currently working on getting a new rear seat, because some chucklefuck smashed the rear window right before a rainstorm and the old foam and vinyl didn't like all the water.

>rear glass cost $700 because of dem curves

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Really need some motivation...

>>17667673
Just keep going man. When it's finaly finished you'll be able to rest.

How do you eat an elephant?
One bite at a time.

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>>17667673
Where you at bud? I finally got mine running and I was jumping up and down

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>>17667636
OFF MY GENERAL NORMIE

>>17667636
Check out FAST
(Fuel Air Spark Technologies)
They make great FI kits that are fairly easy to install with great results.

>>17667707
>>17667700
I'll also grant carbs sound much better as well.

And I'll look into that when I start a new project, which would be a long time.

>>17667700
Calm down sperg.

I would totally go with FI for my Bronco if it wasn't so expensive. I'm a modern auto tech, so FI is a little easier for me to deal with.

>>17667747
>FI is a little easier

what exactly is so hard about turning three screws in and out on a carb until the car runs right?

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>>17667694
That is an absolutely gorgeous stingray. I have a corvette too, not a classic yet though.

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>>17667689
Thanks anon. It's a mountain of work but I knew that. I've just slowed down, not having much time to do anything with it like I want to.
>>17667694
Nice vette guy. I can't wait to get there, I would feel the same way. Mine is an iroc-z, sat since the end of last winter, started doing the body work and painting.

I've torn off the bumpers and fenders, got a rust free parts car for steel. Cut, welded and bent straight the entire drivers inner-fender. About a million spot welds. The whole side got damaged from previous owner. Also I've ripped out the whole a/c system, rewired and routed everything nice. I'm going to paint the engine bay and get the fenders back on to paint. The rear is already done and ready to be put back together, new bumpers and everything.
My only problem is I'm trying to graft on a new quarter panel, I've been working around that for now until I have help. Haven't touched the driver door yet because I know there's about as much bondo on it as the quarter had. I'm using a new one from donor car instead. Aside from that I would like to have it all together, sanded and primered by the end of fall. Probably next year will I actually have it ready for paint. It just feels like eternity.

>>17667774
Because it's what I deal with every day, in service, diagnosis, and repair. I've dealt with carbs only a handful of times in my life. Its also a much more reliable year round fuel delivery system.

It's not just turning screws to tune it, you have to be well versed in carbs to know what to fix when something breaks. Float level, jets, accelerator pumps, etc. The level of discussion about carb issues in this general alone proves they can be tricky.

But, I am willing to learn, because I don't feel like paying the price for efi for my truck. I doubt I'd get any better fuel mileage with it anyway. Whenever my carb takes a shit, I'll dive into getting more familiar with them. I've rebuilt a 2 barrel ten years ago with my dad, that's the extent of my experience.

>>17668106
I can see where you're coming from. I really wouldn't say there disadvantages when it comes to FI vs carbs. Carbs are cheap and simple really. Lots of people just like it because there is something almost nostalgic and hot rod-y about them. It's old school. Some would say, who needs injection when all you want to just dump as much gas into it as possible. A finely tuned carb on top of a supercharger and or high rise intake, is a vicious machine. Then there's those LS guys...

>>17668293
I do like the old school feel of carbs. Partially why I also don't want to go to efi. I really do want to learn more about carbs, I just don't really have the opportunity to. But I will do my carb at some point when it needs it.

Kek, I actually am an LS guy, if you saw my vette I posted. But I'm not "one of THOSE LS guys". I know who you're talking about and they are annoying as fuck.

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I feel like a total tard asking this but I bought this radiator and installed it awhile ago but kept the aftermarket tranny cooler the previous owner installed. Are these bolts in the radiator for the in radiator tranny cooler and if so should I run it through there instead of the aftermarket one? Also I'll be running a 2400 stall after the tranny and motor swap so I dunno how much hotter it will get than stock.

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>go to the track after work
>2 and a half hours in traffic
>194 the whole way, never overheated
>13.25 @ 102mph
What a dream

>>17668843
Those are indeed for the trans cooler. Aftermarket coolers that run outside the radiator are generally safer and better. They keep the trans temp cooler and there's no risk of destroying the transmission from coolant contamination if the cooler busts.

Personally, I would keep the external aftermarket cooler and just plug off the radiator cooler. I've been thinking about putting an external on my crown vic actually.

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First ferd anything I've owned. It's bretty comfy, motor stumbles a little at idle and low throttle. $2500

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>>17669138
Noice m8

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>>17669066
Will do, I think I'm going to order a new one since mine is pretty bent up. Anyway, a fairly large portion of the line is rubber and starting to deteriorate. Can I get away with just replacing the rubber or should I go ahead and redo it all with metal line?

>>17669290
Just replace the rubber hoses, way easier

>>17669485
Will do, Thanks guys!

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>>17669626
Look at you, with your futuristic digital dash.
Is that an 85?

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>>17667780
It's actually not stingray! 1977 they didn't have the name
>>17667792
Thanks, and body work is a lot of work, but look at all the work you've done! You can't stop now. Like other anon said, 1 bite at a time.

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>>17669646
88 town car. Any idea what would cause the stumble?

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Maybe you saw one of these old bastardized Mitsubishis ... Doubt it tho. An 87 1st gen, 4 speed shit-box of death. Carbie, and a blown muffler make for good sound. I only gave 300. Just passed 100k :)

>>17669685
I'd start with a full tune up of Plugs, wires, cap and rotor, or at minimum, plugs and wires if the cap and rotor look okay.
Also since it's fuel injected, the Crank sensor on these are notorious for dieing and causing a no start. I'd replace it as well

>>17669685
Also, go here if you need certain info on things for this car
http://www.grandmarq.net/vb/forum.php

>>17669685
Could be an outright misfire, timing retarded, or vacuum leak. Or carb issues if it has a carb. Should probably start there.

>>17669651
Interesting. Gorgeous car either way.

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Good news is I have found someone to sell me his 2004r for 300$ fully rebuilt, bad news is I go off to college once more in a week.
I just need to pick a 350 to rebuild
The one out of a 68,70,or 71, I have done no research on the differences of the blocks so now they just sit in the shed waiting.

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can anyone tell me what the fuck this thing is?

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Five years in the making, today she finally came to life.

Feels good man, now to get it drive-able.

>>17671335
Good job! That's a Holley double pumper right? 4150? Tell me about the car

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>>17671378
Sure is

It's a '71 javelin I bought years ago that was supposed to be driver shape but motor was shot.

Bored .030 over
Cast pistons
Found some earlier 52cc heads to bump up the compression to 9.5:1
Had the heads machined to accept SBC studs
Comp 280h cam .490 lift and 230 duration @ .050
1.6 oldsmobile rockers
Edelbrock airgap rpm intake
MSD ignition
Hooker super comp headers

Lots of goodies.

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>>17671438
It's turning into a little bit of a frankenstein

Oh and I replaced the old borgwarner m-12 with 727 torqueflite.

>>17671188
IDK, cruise control amplifier?

Take a better picture or google the patent number on there.

>>17672996
Actually that makes sense because there's a cable running from it to the throttle linkage

>>17669685
First thing to know with any EFI is fuel pressure.

That said these were notorious for TPS's developing glitches right off idle and causing stumbling and also the Exhaust Valve Position Sensor (EVP) on the EGR valve doing the same thing and causing the engine to stumble and sag under accel as the EEC tried to work with the erratic signal resulting in overfeeding of EGR. That one's easy to check. Just pull the vacuum hose off the EGR valve and if the stumble goes away you found your issue. My money's on TPS though.

>>17669703
>88 EEC-IV
>Crank Sensor
Yeah, naw. You'd have to go back the the EEC-III for a crank sensor. The IV has a Profile Ignition Pickup (PIP) in the distributor that does like to go bad about as often as the Thick Film Ignition (TFI) module on the side of the distributor. Shame it's such a pita to replace.

>>17673570
This guy fords

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Started cleaning up my 350 today, cylinder heads and the block. It's going well. That's all I have.

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My 1984 mustang GT turbo and on top of that I'll be receiving my late father in law's 66 galaxie 500

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>>17674329
Galaxie

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>>17674364
Nice galaxie.

Speaking of galaxies, I was going to do a quick cleanup of the engine bay in mine today before I ran the brakes and put the engine back in and stuff. But then I found THIS SHIT.

RUST?

ON MY GALAXIE?

FUCK NO.

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>>17674520
Never planned on taking the fenders off, But I guess I'm going to have to. I will not tolerate any god damn rust on my car.

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>>17674527
The passenger side has slight surface rust poking through the paint, I figured while I'm at it I'll take that one off too once I put this one back on.

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>>17674520
Here's the engine bay in old gal she's got a 302 but my god is it clean

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>>17674527
I recognize these feels

>>17674527
Take care of your car and it'll take care of you

>>17674547
Looks damn nice, anon, BUT
>rust on the hood

It's only surface rust now, but you definitely want to fix that shit early on, Try to get some color matching paint or just sand it down and clear coat / paint under the hood black. Or you'll end up in my boat.

>>17674549
I love the dashboards on javelins. They look so cool!

>>17674568
I plan on going over her with a fine tooth comb top to bottom to make sure she's clean

>>17674527
Good thing you're getting at it early.

Do you plan to just spray some rust reformer or are you doing the full sand and paint?

>>17674864
I'm cutting out all the cancer and welding in new stuff.

Just saw a GTX at the bank. Same color my Duster has under the rattlecan. Shit was nice af

>>17675012
Is it that bad? It looked like surface rust.

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>>17651790
Can someone explain electric chokes? Looks like cletus tried putting one in. Looks like he routed it through the turn signal fuse and blew the fuse. As far as I can tell, the car already has some sort of choke system because pushing the gas pedal down helps a ton with starting the engine. Sorry for being a retard, never had a car with a choke before

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>>17674527
Get the fuck rid of that nasty shit man. FUCK rust

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>>17675457
It's not too bad right now, Wanna get to it before it gets worse.

>>17675689
jesus christ that choke is set far far rich.
Unscrew the 3 hold down screws a bit rotate that 100 degrees clockwise, then splice new wire onto the black ground wire and ground it somewhere.

Splice the positive red wire onto a voltage source, should be battery voltage when the key is on and the engine is running, I spliced mine into the power wire for my wiper motor.

After all that, pump the gas pedal twice, wait around 30 seconds, give the gas pedal a shot again, then look at the choke plate on the carb to make sure it's opening.

After a few minute drive, the choke plate should be open all the way, if it's not, the electric choke itself could be dead

>>17675796
>After all that, pump the gas pedal twice
I should have added "start the car" after that point

>>17675796
Will do, thanks. Do you have any idea why the red wire was hooked up to a fuse/why it blew? It was the turn signal fuse. I'm guessing pumping the gas opens the throttle which somehow operates the choke?

>>17675840
It should never have been hooked up to a fuse in the first place, PO wasn't so smart. Pumping the gas is supposed to set the fast idle and close the choke plate on carbed cars, makes it easier for cold starts. The next kick to the throttle kicks down the linkage on the choke and brings the idle down to a slightly fast or normal idle

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>>17675879
>PO wasn't so smart
Tell me about it. He left the some of the transmission pan bolts halfway unbolted...

>>17676707

rip doggo

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>>17673570
Thanks bruv I will get right on that. You can probably infer that I'm most familiar with chrysler products, I was considering moving on the lincoln real quick to pick up this ridiculously clean '79 cordoba, but I took my gf for a fancy dinner in the linc and it was so fucking comfy that I think I'll keep it. Guess it's time to read up on ferd, hopefully I can get the dog out of this low output 302 and turn it into a respectable motor

well it's been a few hours and I still don't know jack shit. This is my daily now so I gotta ask, what are the first things I should be replacing on the non-ho 302? Would swapping a mustang engine be easier or should I just swap the heads and cam? Motor has 130k miles on it.

I'd like to make ~250 instead of the wimpy 140 or so it's doing right now. Good for a daily with reasonable mpg and good reliability

>>17677716
>reasonable mpg
get a spreadbore intake and carb

You can search through some junkyards for some old ford explorers if you want to build a new engine for it, those semi modern 302's put out some decent numbers. If you want to keep your old motor then 302s have some pretty cheap parts. You can secure halfway decent aftermarket heads for that motor of yours on ebay for around $1200 for both. Just try to research what pistons you have in it so you can calculate the C/R.

for cams don't go crazy on selecting the specs. sometimes even just an RV cam or a single step above that is enough to wake up a smogged out motor. As a general rule of thumb the more radical the camshaft, no matter how good it sounds, will sacrifice MPG and driveability and also bump the powerband up more and more.

in selecting a cam for MPG and driveability you'll want to choose a cam that will produce as much amount of power(both HP and toque) as low as possible in the powerband so you can use as little throttle as possible to get up to speed / cruise.

It's not quite necessary but you can also change out the rear end ratio to get some highway gears in there, which will improve your MPG dramatically. try 2.75:1 or 3.00:1 gears. Turning only around 2,000 RPM at 65 is nice.

>>17675903
Yuk. Use loctite. The bolts could just be backing out. I had that problem before.

>>17677716
I would just fix what's wrong first and go from there, I'm sure it'll run much better. Somebody wrote out a whole list of things to check first.

>>17677282
>>17677716
I'd probably hit it with gears first. 3.73 should pep it up a bit. Also the AOD valve body prior to 1990 is a known dog so you might look into updating that too.

On Windsor Fords the weak spot is the heads every time. Followed by exhaust manifolds. I'd probably just throw an Explorer motor at it if I were going that far. ECM on that is speed-density so it doesn't have a lot of room for engine mods in the software. You'll either have to get the ECM number off of it, and it's in a pita location to the left of the steering column, and then check with a site like moates.net to see if that ecm is supported by QuarterHorse. Or maybe SCT. If it's not supported you'll have to do something like convert the car to a mustang mass-air ecm. Lots of work for a Town Car imo.

>>17677903
I dunno why Ford just can't make good heads. The Super Cobra Jet has decent ports but shitty chambers and the Boss heads are really good chambers but shitty ports.

>>17676707
rip dog

F

Thanks for the advice guys. If I understand correctly, the only things needed to "convert" to HO are cam, intake, heads, correct firing order and appropriate ECU? And possibly pistons if there are clearance issues?

There are some great deals on 302 parts around TX, one guy in particular is selling everything I listed about for like $150. There's also this compete engine for 300:

https://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/pts/d/302-motor/6231543875.html

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https://dallas.craigslist.org/sdf/pts/d/ford-small-block-headers/6247400796.html

I wonder if these would fit in my engine bay. Probably free up some breathing

Are there any other other experienced road trippers in here? Need advice on how stupid of an idea it would be to use a tent as accommodation.

My brother in law, me, corvette, lotus, 7 days through back roads in texas and new mexico. I'm definitely bringing a gun. I'm experienced with long trips, but Ive never gone hard core mode with a tent. Whats the likelihood of us getting fucked with given this scenario? Obviously we would pitch the tent in semi-safe locations like rest stops.

>>17678965
Where you the hombre who was looking for a good book about the science of making horsepower? I found one in my files the other day.

Damn, I got really lucky, the guy I bought the car from is a bona fide TC expert. Contributed to this article apparently, answers all my Qs

http://www.lincolnsonline.com/tech/00066.html

>>17679139
Yes I was. Dropbox? Do people still use that?

>>17679199
>>17679139
Fundamentals of internal combustion engines by Pulkabrek is the standard engineering textbook. Google it. You can get a hardcover copy for 10$ or an E copy for free if you search engine hard enough.

All I want is for my "simple" motor swap to be done. I wanna hear the V8 rumble. Putting the motor together this weekend, dropping it in maybe next. Not sure

>>17679199
>Yes I was. Dropbox? Do people still use that?
Attempting to find a means of sending it without having to make a damn account somewhere.

>>17679232

https://2k9meduettaxila.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/engineering-fundamentals-of-the-internal-combustion-engine-2k9meduettaxila-wordpress-com.pdf

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>>17679262

>>17679199
This is a newer version than what i have but this book goes into the practical side of things.

http://bil.bongkarla.dk/Modern%20Engine%20Tuning%20-%20A%20G.Bell%20-%204%20Stroke.pdf

As in what can realistically be obtained by your engine etc.

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>>17651790
There's a hole in the bottom of my air cleaner that I think is supposed to connect to the pcv valve, but the pcv is already hooked up to the base of my carb. The hole's letting in dirty air, should I just plug it?

>>17680557
that large vacuum port on the base of your carb is meant for power brakes, I'm not sure if it's too healthy to be pulling straight vacuum on the pcv.

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>>17651790
Can anyone ID this car make? Apparently the rims are Hayashi CR.

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>>17680751
The circled one is for power brakes?

>>17680778
effay as fuck

>>17680788
I was wrong. That's the correct port for the pcv valve, I had to look it up, I've always just used that for power brakes.

>>17680837
I think the one for the power brakes is in the back somewhere. The other two in the front are hooked up to the distributor and the horn

>>17680855
>horn
Horn? wait a minute... What?

>>17680901
Uhh... that's what it looks like at least... I haven't even tried the horn out desu, thought it was disconnected

>>17680906
Yeah, the horn will be electric. I've never heard of an vacuum powered horn.

>>17680557
The hole in the base of the air cleaner assembly is to attach a hose to the fresh air inlet side of the pcv system in order to bpth supply filtered air to the pcv system and also to carry crankcase gases to the carb under acceleration where vacuum is low and the pcv valve functions poorly or not at all. This way crankcase gases are burned in any condition.

>>17680958
So where should I hook that sucker up? Another pcv?

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>>17680966
The opposite valve cover is the fresh air side it can have a just a breather on it or be connected to the hole in the air cleaner. Lots of guys run breathers. If you want it factory you'll need another pcv an the grommet for it. Here's an illustration I pulled off google that explains it.

>>17680778
that's a hakosuka brah

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Cylinder head

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>>17681636
I see your cylinder head and raise you engine block.

>>17683750
Grabber blue? Ford product? Looks good desu. And idk why mine just says cylinder head. I had more typed out. Anyway, it's off a 350 from a Caprice that's going into my truck. Just cleaning things up before I put it back together.

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New cross member is in. New rear springs to follow. And, exhaust, since the old stuff won't fit around the new cross member. Today got fucking expensive.

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Had to build a custom bracket extension since the Saginaw isn't original. Found out today it's from a 70-75 Camaro.

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Springs coming out.

>>17684338
My parents own a 67 impala, 4 door, no post. They are redoing it to look like the Supernatrual "Baby" show car. It is weird. Lots of 1 year only for 67. Someday I would like to own it and maybe ditch the supernatural stuff and have it as a nice family car.

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>>17684424

Too bad they're messing with it, but cool that they're at least taking good care of it. I love mine, despite all it's flaws that I'm slowly unfucking. New springs are in.

>>17684516
Looking good!
And yeah the Supernatural isn't my thing but I'm glad they have a car they can work on together. It's going to be nice when finished.

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Bill wasn't as bad as I was expecting- $165. Exhaust didn't have to be redone, so I saved that expense for today anyway. It will be getting done soon though, hopefully in the next week or so.

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please help

Found this '77 W123 220D with "only" 300k km on it for 500€. The exhaust is perforated and the master brake cylinder is to be replaced ( however, the guy that is selling it said he would give the parts ) but it starts and drives. I'd have to tow it back home, and before I go see it ( it's 300km away ) I'd like to know what you think about it

I don't know if I should buy this one or if I should wait to spend more on a nicer one

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>>17684825
the interior is pretty clean btw
the car had 3 owners, who were members of the same family, and the latest is getting rid of it because he can't deal with it anymore ( i think he's an old man )

>>17684825
That is in really good shape. All classic purchases are a gamble. You never really know if something is better is going to come along. I assume 500 euros is equivalent to about 750 dollars, at most 1000 dollars. In the U.S., running and driving, thats a good deal.

You're just going to have to be okay with maybe having to spend some money on it, but you will be doing that regardless on a car that old.

There is no car on the face of the earth that is 40 years old and does not need work, unless it just got a complete rebuild and restoration.

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why aren't you taking your transmission for a swim /ccg/?

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Finally rattlecanning the body.

>>17687138
Man those old Bugs look like fun. Was it red before or are you changing the color?

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Finally got started working on this thing. Cracked the spark plugs off and filled the cylinders with ATF, going to let it sit for a couple weeks now and see if that frees things up.

My question now is... wtf do I do next? If this works and gets the engine unseized should I just hook a 6V battery up, turn the key (with the plugs out obviously) and see what happens? I was staring at the engine bay this weekend kind of at a loss for where to even start.

>>17687517
Originally red, a slightly different shade though. It was resprayed yellow at some point but there were a lot of areas where the original red was visible after removing a few things.

>>17667639
Stunning car, these are a favorite of mine. I also enjoy the matching colors between it and your bike kek

>>17669689
Nice! American car dude through and through but quirky/uncommon little Jap hatchbacks are hard to resist. Love the graphics on it as well

>>17676707
F

>>17679322
GMT400 bro from Illinois?

where could i locate all the mazda 121 accoutrement to put onto a US Festiva?

do they have junkyards in euroland? can i call a guy or something?

I know a couple of you are knowledgeable about the Ford 302, so hopefully I can get some insight. I'm scoping out a slightly built-up 5.0 for my Bronco, and I want to put the GT40P headers on there rather than the E7TE headers. That'll bump my compression up to about 9.9:1 though, vs the stock 9ish:1. Will I have to run mid-grade gas rather than regular?

>>17687996
Yes sir. She's under the knife still, motor coming out next weekend! Cleaning/buttoning up the 350 now.

>>17688329
It would be a better idea to run midgrade or premium, unless you want to retard your timing a hair

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Just finished engine swap and I have a problem, pls 2 help

>350 sbc, quadrajet
>starts fine
>idles fine
>revs fine
>idle is strong enough to cruise around
>if I touch the gas even a little it makes a little pop and dies instantly
>not even a stumble like it's threatening me just *boop* off

Timing facked?

>>17688517
Get Cylinder one on TDC compression stroke and make sure the rotor is pointing at cylinder 1 then go from there

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>tfw the car you've been oogling at on craigslist finally gets sold
ITS NOT FAIR

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>>17687613
I would strongly advise against just hooking up a battery and attempting to start it. Chances are, some(if not most) of the wiring is rotten and exposed from years of exposure. With my chrysler, I did just as you have done, but I disconnected everything at the starter solonoid, and just ran the starter off of a button. This way, if there is some questionable electrical, you won't fry everything under the dash or potentially cause a fire. Also, this way you can use 12 volt just to play with the starter and get everything moving before repairing the old 6 volt system. Maybe remove the starter and just run it off of a jumper wire, to get it unstuck. Work it in and out a few times to make sure it properly engages and disengages. Manually turn the crank/fan to attempt to get the engine unsiezed. I left a cap full of marvel mystery oil in my cylinders for about 2 weeks and it broke free first try. Throw some new points, condesor, resistor, and 6 volt coil on it. Take the carb off and clean it with gasoline, making sure the secondaries operate properly as they tend to size up as well. Disconnect the fuel line at the pump, and just run a 5 gallon gas can to the fuel pump until you can have the tank cleaned( if it has old rotten gas in it, that is) once all of that has been done, attempt to start the engine. Leave the distributor loose so that you can have a friend turn it to adjust the timing while you operate the starter from a button/not the key. Once it fires up, let it run gently for a minute, and if you or someone you know is capable, you can essentially 'steam clean' the engine to help try and break up all the crap that has accumulated on the inside of the block. Maybe watch some videos first, but the simple version is to pour some water(not too much, not too little) into the carb while running at a higher rpm. It's a little tricky to keep the engine running while doing this, but hell. It does wonders if done correctly.

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>>17688549
Pic is my 1954 chrysler new yorker deluxe with the 331 Hemi, and it had been sitting since 1995. When I did all of the above, the fucker smoked and knocked and shot rust and other unidentifiable shit out of the exhaust for about 15-20 minutes straight, then ran like a fucking top. Played with it for a bit to get the timing right, then got excited and took it for a drive. Did 50mph quietly like it was no problem at all. Happiest fucking day of my life... there's no felling in the world like bringing something back to life...

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>mfw got a rebuilt 2004r off some boomer for 250$

urgh, almost time for a new thread.

i don't have enough classic related shit on my computer :(

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>>17688701
What do need?

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>>17688719
>that poor quality image

>>17688701
you could just, you know, post someones car...

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>>17688729
Or just google something

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Recently saw an ad for the 2 door version of my car for $1800, running and driving. Should I pick it up?

>313 posts

>>>17688818
>>>17688818

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>>17687011
for (You)

>>17656485
Fantastic car. Plus you can bring the whole family in it!