Talk me out of buying this 2015 BMW m235i RWD Coupe with 18k

>>17632641
because it looks fucking retarded.. should be enough

>BMW luxury
Lol
If you consider luxury less options, less seat space, less legroom, and less trunkspace then sure. Hope you can borrow mommy's car while it's in the shop for failures every month.

>>17632641
Why not an M2?

>>17632657
too expensive and too big. also this can easily be tuned to be faster

>>17632647
>>17632650
t. jealous poorfags

>>17632699
>wants bmw
>not poor

you know there's people in their 20s in much higher end cars than that, failure

>>17632699
>getting a car for people who can't afford M
>calling others poorfags
lel

>>17632704
>I-I'm not poor! BMWs are bad because they're not expensive enough, c-cuck!

Not op but where's your Ferrari, poorfag?

>>17632704
>some chinese kids drive lamborghinis paid for by their parents.. failure!

lol

>>17632688
Who cares how fast it goes, you'll still be missing the M package suspension, brakes and all the other goodies

Great car. Consider the 435i but I say go for it.

>>17632741
I'm pretty sure it comes with the brakes, saw one yesterday and it had the M brakes

Seems you really want it OP and it's a great car. I would rather an M2 or an M4 but if this is the limit of your budget then go for it.

No but in all reality why does this car look like it has downs.. looks like a z4 on crack. I could see an edgy girl driving it I guess

>>17632724
every dude with a 40 hour work week can afford a bmw, and then they proceed to double park it like it's something special

>>17632846
where's yours?

>>17633105
about to drop OPs car's worth as a downpayment for a use Continental

>>17632641
It's my dream car op.

>>17633977
>bragging about being rich
>has to buy a used bentley

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>>17634000
Why is an m235 your dream car? Like wtf nigga

Yeah maybe an M2 or an M5 but why would the cheaper mockup of an M2 be your dream car over the real thing?
Also checked those

>>17633977
>about to drop OPs car's worth as a downpayment for a use Continental

You gonna have cash left over for watermelons and koolaid?

>>17634013
Because it's more affordable than an M2.

>>17634153
No no I understand that, but that's not what a dream car is. A dream car is usually meant to mean a car that one would absolutely love to have but is out of feasible reach, like a koenigsegg or some shit like that.

What you've described is simply "the car I'm planning to buy eventually"

>>17634223
I guess that's true.

I'm just being realistic.

>>17632641
It's a pretty fun car and it looks good. I'd buy it.

>>17632647
lol you're either blind or clinically retarded.

>>17634439
>looks good
LMFAO.. 9/10 troll made me laugh at loud so I'll give you that. one of the funnier tripfags props

>>17634427
Nothing wrong with that, you're better off thinking about attainable things than pining over the intangible

ever heard cla from merc? it's a good looking too..

>>17634487
CLA is not comparable to an M235i.

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>>17634487
>cla
>fwd merc
Plz kys

>>17634498
Why? You'd have to be a fucking idiot to take a fucking m235i over a cla

>>17634512
>cla
>fwd merc
yfw that "fwd merc" has a faster 0-60 and quarter mile than your shitty girl mobile

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>>17634553
>FWD
>that pig-ugly interior

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>>17634572
The Merc has a better interior than the BMW you fucking idiot

Not to mention exterior, 0-60, quarter mile, race track, etc (literally everything)

>b-b-but fwd based!!!1111
kys you fucking idiot

>>17632641
bmw luxury

>>17634615
assmad merc fangirl detected

>>17634638
when u cant respond facts with counterarguments so
>hurruheuhruh ur so butthurt bro XD XD XD xD

good to see bmw drivers are autistic on the road and off

>>17634650
You're so mad that nobody likes your fwd cuckmobile jeez dude get over it

>>17634679
Whatever you say bro, if you want a slow ugly girl car then you do you man

>>17634685
In all seriousness CLA45 is literally 0.1 sec faster 0-60, it's also heavier and not offered in manual on top it all it's fwd this is why OP prefers the m235i.

Honestly I wouldn't buy either car I would save for something better

>>17634553
Well for starters it has 2 too many doors you fucking spastic.

Everyone else has covered the other things.

>>17634615
Are you fucked in the head?
How can one unironically defend the CLA?
I work at a Benz dealership and the CLA has the shittiest inteior I've ever seen on a Mercedes, sagging inteior bits after 1 year of use, cheapest materials everywhere, slow crappy infotainment etc.
The CLA also looks like a crapping dog and it has fucking Haldex awd i.e it's fucking boring.
0-60 stats is for people who don't know shit about cars (people like you)

i cross shopped an m240i with several other similar cars and ended up with a 1LE camaro for several reasons. It ended up being about $8k cheaper (new prices), the insurance quote was MUCH cheaper, is faster in every way, has a comparable interior and rear seat, doesnt have that much bigger of a footprint etc.

>>17635073
I like camaros too but bimmers are my favorite. How is the visibility? I've heard people complain that the windows are too small

>>17635081
visibility is fine out of the front and sides, the only time i notice the giant rear pillars is backing out of the driveway. the camera does enough but its not perfect

>>17632699
>hes literally asking us to convince him not to.

>>17635119
Seems like a pretty good car though, I've been completely opposed to buying American for a long time but those new camaros are a great deal considering the price.

>>17632641
I read quite a lot about the 235i when I was considering getting one and apparently the shifter is awful in those. BMWs manual gearboxes have always been average but this one is extra bad

I also like the 135i more. Lighter and cuter

>>17634553
>it's faster in a straight line so therefore it's better

you have to be 18 or older to post here

>>17634806
You are actually fucking braindead if that is your argument. did you get into the bleach drawer as a child? genuinely curious

>>17635017
And the m235i doesnt? the m235i has fucking plastic everywhere and looks like shit, at least the mercs interior looks moderately luxious

>looks like a crapping dog
Nice subjective point. Looks 10x more badass than the BMW, especially at night. The alignment of the m235i is just wrong, it looks disgustingly weird as a coupe

>0-60 stats is for people who dont know shit about cars
Ohhhh I see, the way to judge a car is "hurrr derrr I worked at a Merc dealership and the cla looks like shit!!!!"

Lmao literally do everyone a favor and commit suicide right now

>>17635707
Faster in a straight line, around track, and quarter mile. That obviously fucking matters. Learn a single thing about automobiles rather than getting asshurt your shitty car is always going to be behid the Merc you fucking aut

>>17636151
>the only thing that matters is how fast it is

you have to be 18 or older to post here

The only good BMW's are older ones. Fact.

If youre buying a new car used, get something like a Genesis or a g37. Hell, even a used SS is around that price range an is leagues better than new BMW crap.

>>17632641
Enjoy your shit reliability and expensive repairs

While it might easily tune, it is not necessarily safe. Tunes are dangerous even on Porsches and your car is not that.

>>17632647
this

>>17636269
god bmw drivers are so stupid it hurts

>>17636308
fwd cucks, everybody

>>17636352
slow laptimes, 0-60, quartermile, ugly exterior, interior, everybody

>>17636151
A stock M235i is on par with the pig ugly CLA on track. Add stickier tyres and it kills the CLA every day of the week while being 10 times more fun to drive.
Just watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDKrcZ7xLY8
True petrolheads prefer oversteer and fun while autistic benchracers like you only care about 0-60 times.

>>17636381
0.1 seconds slower on track, 0.1 seconds slower for 0-60 but is 10 times better looking, has a higher quality interior, comes with a manual gearbox, has proper rear wheel drive, much bigger aftermarket, is cheaper.
I like Benz but the CLA45 is a fucking piece of shit and you probably don't even own a car

>>17636389
okay, so the cla won.. great video you fucking mong

>True petrolheads prefer oversteer and fun while autistic benchracers like you only care about 0-60 times.
>True petrolheads prefer oversteer
Has anyone ever told you that you are retarded? if so, you should hug them for being so smart and then proceed to shoot yourself in the brain for having so many chromosomes you absolute fucking retard

>>17632641
Don't listen to the poorfag weebs in their shitty rustbuckets
Fucking buy it

>>17636406
>mommy won't let me have a right wheel drive car so I yell at people on 4chan

>>17636405
>10 times better looking
>has a high quality interior
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>you probably don't even own a car
If you want to project, my first car is probably more than your current car you fucking idiot

>>17636406
But the BMW won the review you autistic sperg.
Benz cucks in denial lmfao.
You are not a car guy. You are a retarded benchracer.
“For reasons that are extremely difficult to explain to normal human beings, petrolheads prefer oversteer.” is a Jeremy Clarkson quote.
Kill yourself

>>17636435
I can easily tell you've never been near a CLA or an AMG car.
I drive Mercs including the CLA every day of the week for a living.
I know that the CLA is shit.
You only see that it has better 0-60 stats and you think it looks better but you ignore everything else like the true retarded sperg you are.

>>17636436
>But the BMW won the review you autistic sperg.
>bmw won the Motortrend review!!!
Lmao, of course don't expect the retard to know MT has a notorious reputation for bias towards BMW. He chose it over a subjective reason like "fun" despite Merc winning all objective points

You are retarded, but again, every bmw driver is so nobody is surprised

>>17636450
>I work at a car dealership
>I'm really smart!
I've driven a CLA45 and M235i, but keep projecting. Projecting and subjectivity is something you bmw retards really enjoy, huh

>>17632641
>-dealership warranty until 100k miles
Bumper to bumper or is that just the power train that will never go bad

>>17636451
>you are not allowed to buy a car you like because a car with better stats exists

in that case he should buy a real merc not some fwd piece of shit

>>17636475
Of course you can buy a car because you can say "well i dont really like the look the cla and the bmw is more fun to drive".


If you go solely off times gtr will be my favorite car. It isnt, i'd much prefer a gt3

But I'm not going to sperg and start calling the gtr shit and try and justify why the gt3 is better. i get you m235i nerds really want some reassurance on but i'd quiet down here lmao

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>>17636451
>bias towards BMW
Keep grasping at straws.
MT has been bashing on BMW since the E92 era.
You'd know that if you had seen any review which includes an M car.
The CLA interior is on par with the previous gen 1 series.
The 2 series interior has better ergonomics, uses better quality materials, overall fit and finish is better.
As I said the 235i is RWD+manual and has a proper inline 6 turbo engine not a Civic tier 4 banger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkcoeg4Tyd4

>>17636498
>it's a gtr fanboy episode

that explains it

>>17636502
Also I just looked it up the CLA45 AMG base price is $52k, jesus christ it's literal M2 money.

>>17636520
Holy shit, bmw drivers are actually illiterate. i didnt think you guys were this stupid, but you cant comprehend simple sentences? holy shit you guys are beyong help lmao

>>17636502
the picture you posted disproves your point you mong. less luxurious and just as much plastic. congratulations retard

>>17636543
Where is the luxury in the CLA?
Luxury means sticking a shitty ipad mini on top of round retarded vents?
Is it the poorly integrated radio and phone controls in the middle? Reminds me of my W211 lmfao.
The BMW has proper recaro seats, driver oriented console, an actually good looking steering wheel and iDrive is something so well made that other automakers are still trying to beat.

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>>17636582
>The BMW has proper recaro seats
CLA performance seats are known to be extremely high quality seats and some of the best in the game

>Luxury means sticking a shitty ipad mini on top of round retarded vents?
Such a stupid meme bmw drivers try to pull. Talk about W211 interior, the console looks like BMW. The "ipad" on mercedes interior looks completely fine. Tesla did it even worse and nobody cares. The integrated display screens look so fucking dated (again, refer to w211). thats what bmw is still doing

>Where is the luxury in the CLA?
Pic related seems very luxurious to me and anyone that tries to argue that a bmw interior is more luxurious than pic related just seems preposterous

>>17636605
>Tesla did it even worse and nobody cares
It's actually one of the biggest complaints and one of the major reasons for the tesla shitposting on /o/ have you been living under a rock?

>>17636605
this fucking sticking a screen on top of the dash needs to stop

>>17636647
>one of the major reasons for the tesla shitposting on /o/
>tesla shitposting on /o/
>on /o/
You think /o/ is the market? Lol, a good many of Tesla owners bought it for the big media screen

I agree it's ridiculous but there is literally nothing wrong with Mercedes' screen

>>17636657
Disagree, but either way it's still such an attractive interior

>>17636710
it is by far the worst interior of any amg car

>>17636728
Well no shit, its their amg entry. and even that, its still really nice interior. all amgs have the center console so

>>17636760
you have shit taste

haven't you noticed that literally nobody else in this thread is defending your precious fwd shitbox

>>17636766
LOL thats because it's /o/ idiot, home of a bunch of retards with 328is

Talk to anyone without downs and a iq higher than 90 and they'll agree bmws are trash for trash

>>17636819
t. 16 year old proud owner of a $3k civic with """""""tasteful""""""" mods

>>17636842
>you have a civic
t. 328i owner he got used for literally less than the price of a new civic

>>17636819
BMW has the biggest car enthusiast community on earth and you're nothing but an edgy sperglord.
Literally all you can say is "lol bmw is shit fwd is better", neck yourself faggot.

>>17636859
t. can't into reading comprehension

>>17636876
>BMW has the biggest car enthusiast community on earth and you're nothing but an edgy sperglord.
So does Mustang, doesnt mean theyre not all a bunch of faggots degenerates too

>Literally all you can say is "lol bmw is shit fwd is better", neck yourself faggot.
Uhh, pretty sure that's all you're saying lmao. I'e given laptimes, straight lines times, quarter mile times, and you guys just say "b-b-but fwd BASED" (not even fwd lmao) "b-b-but looks bad"

>>17636605
>>17636498
>>17636451
>>17636435
>unironically defending a pig ugly overpriced FWD shitbox
>unironically choosing a FWD autotragic 4banger "sedan" over a RWD inline 6 turbo manual coupe
Nice trolle m9

>>17636884
see >>17636269

>>17636879
>can not into reading comprehension
t. can't form a coherent sentence
Read it fine, responded fine, you just didn't appreciate my response because it offended you lmao.

to your 7 grande 3 series you go

>>17636884
Mustang has the biggest community in the U.S.
BMW has the biggest community world wide.
Just go to any track day on the planet.

I can't believe these retards exist

>muh bmw is so shit you should buy a civic
This nigger is trolling right? Only a woman or a complete normie who knows fuck all about cars would prefer a civic lmao

>guy spending day and night defending cla45 which everybody in the car community knows is junk

Honestly dude just sell it and buy a better car, stop cucking yourself thinking defending it on the internet makes it a better purchase. Also, comparing it to the m235i? It should be compared to the M2 as they are the same price and in which case it is completely inferior in every way

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All these triggered bmw spergs

>>17636884
You're doing god's work son

>haldex """awd"""
>4 banger
>autotragic
>$52k
What the actual fuck

>>17636908
> Only a woman or a complete normie who knows fuck all about cars would prefer a civic lmao
The fuck are you even talking about?

how come bmw retards have such a hard time reading properly. who said anything about a civic being better mong

>>17636908
>implying i have a cla45
>inferior
again, the precious bmw nerd cannot respond as to why the m235i is better than the cla45 other than "fwd based" or subjunctive opinions about the interior

Feels good pissing off a bunch of degenerate retards with cuck bmws that are actually slow as fuck

>but my rwd!!

congrats you can do donuts, still behind the Merc stupid bitch kek

So we can summarize this thread right?

The CLA is better than the m235i. Faster laptimes, faster straight line, faster around track, and more luxurious interior

>b-b-but it's a 4banger!!!!
(thats quicker)
>b-b-b-ut its fwd based!!!!
(thats quicker)
>b-b--but the m235i
(no it doesnt and youre retarded)

Feels good watching the cucks cry in defeat as they shout the same retarded things as they bleed

>>17636898
>>17636966

>>17636944
This guy already proved that both cars are on par in terms of track performance
>>17636502
but the 235i was still more fun to drive and won the review
The reasons why the 235i is better is: tunable i6 turbo
rwd
manual transmission
much cheaper to buy
Any more questions cuckboy?

>>17636966
>so insecure
lmao nobody loves your piece of shit cla keep crying fagboy

>>17636977
>manual
Manual transmission isnt better you fucking idiot, semi automatic is better. This isnt 2005 or a fucking Porsche Carrera GT, fucking faggot

>rwd
Congratulations faggot, you can drift and do donuts. It's still slower

>my car is rwd
>look at me!!! im into cars!!!
You're actually a faggot and should off yourself

>cheaper to buy
Yeah I get you're poor and care about that but i'll buy the quicker, more attractive, and quality car :-)

>>17636944
You're comparing a $52,000 car to a $34,000 car, you are a retard simple as that.

Go ahead and compare the cla45 to an m2, they're the same price. Also read your post out loud dude you have serious autism like the kind that needs medication. Are you frothing at the mouth because people don't like your trash car?

>>17636966
It is 0.1 sec faster than a car that is 18k cheaper, yet completely shit compared to a car of equivalent value

>>17636992
>implying I have a cla
>implying you dont have a 328i
>implying your iq isn't <80
Too funny

>>17633977
>used bently
>thinks he's rich

how's it feel to buy chads leftovers?

>>17636993
>slower by 0.013 seconds
>LOL BMW IS SLOW SHIT
Reminder that CLA money gets you an M2 and for $40k you get a M240i which still beats the CLA
Lmfaoo neck yourself fag

>>17636995
The base price is $45k you fucking idiot. You literally didn't even read the article you got that fact from you absolute dolt

http://www.caranddriver.com/features/bmw-m235i-2016-10best-cars-feature

My god you guys are so retarded it hurts my sides. No wonder normies laugh at mustang drivers and bmw drivers, you are so fucking stupid

>>17637028
>blatantly ignoring the fact that the CLA costs the same as the M2
>blatantly ignoring the fact that the cheaper M240i kills the CLA45
>m-muh iq
>so intelligent

>>17632641
I would rather buy an e34 or e39 and spend a fuck ton of money restoring it to better than factory condition but sounds like you'd rather drive a soulless warrantied bmw and let the dealer fix all the problems it will inevitably have.

>>17637028
And? it still costs 11k more? Haha you're still a fucking complete retard thanks for proving my point, sperg harder and cry more like I give a fuck what you think.

Please compare a 34k merc to the 34k bimmer you mentally challenged shit

>>17637047
all those facts

whewwww give it up for another 328i owner with an iq of 10

whewwwwwewwwwwwwwww

2017 m2 has a slower 0-60 and quarter mile depending on the website you use

And it still has a shitty interior and exterior

Dumb fuck try harder

>>17632641
>tuning
Kys. Just get a Chevy ss and have 400hp stock.

>>17637059
msrp cla45: 50k
m325i msrp: 45k
50k - 45k = 11k

whewwww give it up for bmw intelligence one more time whewwww

no actually why are bmw drivers so stupid, genuinely wondering

>>17637067
How does it feel to be completely defeated? Holy kek

>i-interior is b-better, e-exterior too!
>s-some websites say the merc is faster.. you dummy!

Fucking lmao I feel embarrassed for you dude just stop already

>>17637076
Didn't you just say the merc is 45k? We just using whatever bullshit numbers we like now? Oh and it's still nearly the same price as the M2 yet worse in every way, you are retarded take your medication

M3 driver here. Here's some actual points:
>no lsd
>exhaust sounds like shit unless you dump a lot into aftermarket
>fake engine noise piped into the cabin (can't be disabled like on the M5)
>electric power steering that's numb compared to hydraulic systems
>electric nannies wont even allow you to rev-match the 6MT on your own, it does it for you
>boring look from the rear
>you'll get smoked by an equally tuned 1er or 3er

Just test drive it you fucking queer. Watching fucking youtube reviews of cars like they mean jackshit get it together millennials.

>>17637067
>m-muh 0-60 times
>muh subjective opinions
Lmfao@ this poor nigger still not realizing both him and his favourite fwdshit are laughing stock

>>17637104
still waiting for a single fact besides fwd/4banger

>i feel embarrassed for you
gee, wonder why, not bc you own a 328i or anything and are a total faggot

>Didn't you just say the merc is 45k?
No i didnt, youre a dumbass like every other bmw driver. Everyone laughs at you retards, except maybe your safe space on /o/ circlejerking other retards because you all drive rwd cars that are actually slow and ugly pieces of shit lmao

>>17637143
>ignoring that FWD/4banger/$52k/autotragic are undeniable facts

Wow, this thread is a mess. BMW drivers are getting so defensive over someones opinion, holy shit they're fucking cars that make similar times and all boil down to preference everyone calm your panties you absolute dumb shits, you too Merc

>>17637132
only good post in the thread, that thing sounds like a heap of shit now

>>17637143
>No I didn't

Uhh yeah you did? Scroll up fucking mongoloid lmao, changing the price when you get completely btfo.
>t-that wasn't me
Oh so there's a pair of retards defending the same garbage car, that's good you two should hook up and enjoy your fwd cuckboxes together

You've been completely shit on and it's been proven beyond a doubt your precious cla45 is dogshit and all you can do is screech like an autistic child who didn't get his tendies

Why so obsessed with the 328i? I don't like them either. For real though dude see a psychiatrist, you need help.

Lmfao @this CLA defending cuckboy still grasping at straws after getting constantly BTFO
i'm enjoying this thread

>>17637172
No I didnt you absolute fucking idiot, I was talking about the m235i learn to read dipshit. no bmw drivers are capable of that I know, but try

>>17637184
nice samefag

I just fucking raped everyone retard in this thread, and I have to admit, although Im laughing my ass off at you guys, it's not something hard since everyone knows bmw owners are the most autistic and stupid drivers on the road.

>>17637496
>s-samefag!
>i btfo everyone amirite???
>please like my $52k fwd 4banger
>p-please someone agree with my retarded opinions
Lmfao such a pathetic cuck.

>>17637496
c u c k

>>17632641
Get an ATS instead, Cadillac makes better BMWs than BMW

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>>17637496
>I got beaten down to a crying pulp, comparing a 52k car to a car that costs significantly less
>b-but I am winrar I raped everyone

Nah dude the opposite happened, you made yourself look like an utter autistic retard in addition to reminding everyone why the cla is such a shit car, well done

not only the CLA is overpriced fwd 4 cylinder garbage the cla fanboys are literal 16-17 year old swagboys
no true car enthusiast with the right in mind would spend M2/Mustang/Camaro money for a fwd 4cyl autotragic, only posers
>>17637496

Just read this whole thread

>>17637534
>>17637518
Not him but BMW drivers sure did a swell job repeating the same shit and looking autistic

>4 banger, fwd

4 cyl + fwd based doesn't make a car inferior. Learn about cars. If it can perform on the track and in the quarter mile then who the fuck cares? Because you can't drift it? Stupid.

M235i vs CLA45 debate is pretty much all down to which exterior/interior you prefer. I know I'd personally take CLA45 interior any day hands down, thats my fucking opinion. And nobody in this thread understands what the fuck that means instead arguing about useless shit.

>>17637571
So you'd pay M2 money for an inferior car because of the interior? Alright dude it's your money do what you'd like with it

>>17637568
hahaha and bmw drivers aren't? stupid nigger get cancer

try another stupid retarded argument to justify the cla's quicker drag time, q mile, track time faggot

>>17637571
M235i is more fun in the corners, it can do drifts, skids and burnouts, is much cheaper and comes with a manual gearbox
if you buy a car for the interior $40-50k gets you an E class or 5 series ffs

>>17637588
Okay, well now let's shift to the M2 then again if you want to bring that up.

The M2 and CLA45 also have extremely similar quarter mile, drag, track times. Again, cars are very similar performance wise. M2 probably has the edge very slightly in terms of raw "fun" you're going to have on a track, but yes, I would still pick the CLA just because it sounds great, still performs well, and the exterior/interior I prefer over BMW.

>>17637597
CLA is only good for 0-60 thanks to AWD traction
It is on par with the underpowered M235i on track
Then again you keep ignoring the fact that CLA money gets you a much faster Camaro/Mustang/M2 or used M4

>>17637616
CLA45 has similar track times with M235i.
M2 is on another level track performance wise even though it's the direct competitor to the CLA

>>17637616
Well that's fine if you like the cla for subjective reasons, I just think it is totally retarded to compare it to the m235i which is much cheaper

I mean we don't compare c300's to M4's because it is just stupid

>>17637629
>M2 is on another level track performance wise
It isn't. They are again very similar. The M2 would win a race around the track by a second or two, but nothing to deter from buying one car over the other unless all you care about is track times.

>>17637648
Well you can say the CLA is silly to compared to the M235i. But this whole thread is people saying it's "better" than the CLA. And objectively, it isn't. Now, you might argue "Value wise, the cla is worse" which would be fair. But to argue that the m235i is better than the cla45 alone is silly.

>I mean we don't compare c300's to M4's because it is just stupid
It's a 5k price difference bud it's not that unrealistic lol

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>>17637673
M2 literally walks circles around the CLA on any track.
I'm not talking 1 second difference but 4-6 seconds.

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>>17637698
Meanwhile M235i vs CLA - the M235i even was faster on 2 tracks

>>17637673
>to argue that the m235i is better than the cla45 alone is silly.

Hmm, depends on what one is looking for in a car. Some people would rather have a rwd inline 6. The performance stats are very similar so that is besides the point.

>It's a 5k price difference bud it's not that unrealistic

Uhh yeah it actually is, the M2 and Cla45 should be compared, not the cla45 and m235 it is that simple.

Or I guess by your logic we could compare a C300 and M235i, although that is completely fucking pointless

>>17637698
>>17637708
Watch videos of both cars racing and you'll get very close races each times. Sure with extremely skilled and professional drivers they might be able to milk the BMW harder, but for the most part they are close.

Plus earlier in the thread weren't you guys laughing when he brought up track times and drag times? lol

>>17637714
Despite what you may think, the M235i and cla are commonly compared. After you add options and what not the prices aren't too different

>>17632641
I'd look at Yelp or something like that and look to see if too many people are bitching about their service department. You'll see *some* bitching going on around every stealership but a high number of people bothering to bitch about it is bad. And those are the people who will be honoring that warranty.

How bored and suicidal would you get when designing car interiors. Sweating over every little detail, "brand recognition" and "design language" for buyers to be more concern with that they are looking at outside the car and feeling from the engine and suspension.

Just come up with a universal interior for all cars that will vastly cut down on the cost of design and building them.

>>17634012
at the end of the day I have a Bentley and you dont

>>17638107
you keep your bentley and insecurity and I'll keep my normally sized penis