why is Europe so much better than america at V8s?

>>17629346
>giant air tube turns into tiny air tube turns into giant air tube
What did they mean by that?

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they did not used to be

Im yuropoor but americans make much more powerful v8 imho.
Dont forget that somehow ford, dodge and gm somehow love n/a while merc bmw love 2+ turbos.
They get out so much power from n/a engines its kinda scary. 2018 mustang is an example.
Id wonder how much power they could get if they went amg turbo style.

>>17629373
air restrictors? gt3 car

>>17629346
I bet thats fun to work on.

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>>17629346
What yurop mean by this

>>17630008
See >>17629449

>>17630008
yeah wtf is going on there

Can't design an intake it looks like LMAO

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>>17629373
>>17630008
>>17630018
>>17630034
Here's the road version, without air restrictors.

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>>17629346
>h-h-haha y-yeah we make good V8's
>n-no they don't come with good transmissions

>pic related
>real V8 + real transmission

>>17629401
v8s are kinda freedom lands game its became apart of american culture

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>>17630034
faster than your car bro.

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American V8 is more reliable and easier to service. Might not make as much power out of the box but it has lots of untapped potential and unleashes after simple bolt ons and porting leads and the throttle body. It's a wrenchers/hobbyist wet dream.

>>17630065
that thing takes ANGERY to a new level

>>17630043
modern automatics shift faster than manuals

>>17630065
>Needs forced induction

>>17630085
>American
>reliable

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>>17630115
>yuropoor engineering
>reliable

Is there a better engine than the LS? In terms of size, weight, and power.

>>17630130
No.

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>>17630129
yeah

>>17630104
is that good or bad?

>>17630130
well how about the 911 gt3 4.0?
has 500hp. just 6 cyl and a better redline. not a small engine but its not heavy

>>17630115
Strictly talking V8's. Yes

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>>17630102
>he can't drive for shit yet he needs the quickest shifting transmission

if you're not a literal racecar driver a dual-clutch is absolutely useless you fucking degenerate

>>17630130
Ariel V8

>>17630102
Yet actual track the times when driven by top tier deiver tend to almost identical between manuals and autos. Its why GM stuck with a manual for the ZL11LE as the regular zl1 on a track had similar times both auto and manuals. I can only imagine how fun a manual modern amg would be...

>>17630153
retard. a regular automatic is still faster than a manual in 2017

>>17630153
why is the seat so close? did a manlet sit there?

>>17630161
Yet the track record king is a manual. Really makes me think.

>>17630161
Who cares about bench racing those last bits of seconds? Fun is subjective but i will take it over floppy paddels any day

>>17629401

don't forget that mercedes got 563hp from an n/a V8. that's more than any american production car

>>17630144
https://youtu.be/qRtgUuYFX0M

500-700hp LS builds are out there completely naturally aspirated.

>>17630174
would be faster with a dct

>>17630182
but not at the same redline.
and you are now comparing a built engine to stock

>>17630182
leave it to a retarded amerifat to bring heavily modified engines as an example into a discussion about production engines

>>17630195
OP never specified "stock production engines" and even posted a fucking racecar engine.

>>17630201
>Is there a better engine than the LS? In terms of size, weight, and power.
you're retarded if you think the ls is the best engine, modified or not.

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>>17630034
Neither can amerifats LMAO

>>17629346
because that v8 is worth a good 50k more than than the pony v8 you want to compare it to.
>expensive engines are better than much much cheaper engines

what a surprise anon, now find me a european v8 that can compete with an american v8 in price and performance.

>>17630195
It's retarded to compare $250k Mercedes and Porsches to a $35k Camaro SS. With a little porting, headers, came it totally competes and still is a fraction of the cost.

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Because they trashed pushrods a long time ago whilst murrika still relies on antiquated garbage

M159 a best V8 ever made

>>17630206
The LS is the ultimate tuner engine, because it's widely available, has ludicrous amounts of aftermarket support, can make insane levels of power at almost any budget with any aspiration type, and it's lighter and physically smaller than pretty much every DOHC V8.

>>17630224
no shit, the discussion isn't about price. the retarded amerifat said
.>Is there a better engine than the LS? In terms of size, weight, and power.

>>17630236
>and it's lighter and physically smaller than pretty much every DOHC V8.
kek. can't believe how deluded you have to be to believe this

>>17630246
The Audi 4.2 in >>17630129 is supposed to be a "compact" V8, yet it's larger in every dimension than an LS, it's heavier, and only packs 2/3rds the displacement.
Not to mention it's stressed to fuck so you can't get any significant amount of additional power out of it.

>>17630194
so why the fuck does a higher redline matter? i would rather have an engine make 500hp at 5k rpm than 9k rpm

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>>17630258
here's a dohc v8 that is smaller than an ls
pushrods are ancient technology that need to be let go of already

>>17630238
Ok. And the answer is the LS when it's brought to full potential.

>>17630263
Yuropoors love to brag about how """"technologically advanced"""" they are, then get mad when a big fucking pushrod engine with massive tires and a massive wing wipes the floor with their flagship """"technology showcase"""" hypercars.

>>17630264
boutique low production engine vs cheap mass production engine also lol no torque

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>>17630265
alright, here's one engine that is already better than an ls >>17630264
I can think of tons more

>>17630264
Except OHC has literally been around for longer than OHV.

Oh, and enjoy rebuilding that thing every 50k.

>>17630270
why are yuropoors always trying to make excuses and compare garbage over regulated engines to ours

>>17630274
>>17630278
>moving the goalposts because you got proved wrong
I'm sorry, if I recall the question was
>Is there a better engine than the LS? In terms of size, weight, and power.

>>17630194
A couple thousand dollar build on an engine that can be bought for another couple thousand, vs the engine from a $150,000 car, which would cost over $30,000 alone.

>>17630277
That's a V12 dum dum

>>17630281
>pushrods are ancient technology that need to be let go already
That statement in your post is what I was attacking, because it's bullshit.

>>17630281
alright the goalposts weren't set at anything other the size weight and power aftermarket isn't excluded https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqwooshRxA 1000whp 268k mile ls1

>>17630289
>Is there a better engine than the LS? In terms of size, weight, and power.
where does it say anything about it having to be a v8?
>>17630291
ohc is clearly the superior technology so I'm not even going to bother arguing
>>17630302
not sure what you're trying to prove. there are tons more euro v8s with more power than that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13Dffs_pSqw

>>17630194
>>17630287
Also I'd bet the pushrod v8 is smaller in size than a dohc flat six

>>17630313
1000whp cheaper and easier than anything you can do with a euro made engine

>>17630313
>So desperate has to bring V12s in a V8 thread

If you want to play that game let's just remind you of the recent lap record at the Ring.

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Ok a little comparison

MB-AMG M159
>Dry Weight: 439 lbs
>Displacement: 6.2 L
>Power: 631 hp
>Torque: 650 Nm
>HP/L: 101.8
>Nm/L: 104.8

Ford Voodoo
>Dry Weight: 444 lbs
>Displacement: 5.2 L
>Power: 526 hp
>Torque: 582 Nm
>HP/L: 101.2
>Nm/L: 111.9

And this is literally America's best engineering.
Stop sucking chevy's dick the LS and pushrods are ancient shitty engineering.

The final nail in the coffin for pushrod faggots is the LT5.

>>17630326
>>17630329
arguing with ameritards is brain numbing. we're discussing this
>Is there a better engine than the LS? In terms of size, weight, and power.
now tell me, is price or engine configuration mentioned there?
jesus christ

>>17630179
ferrari got the same with 1.7 litres less

>>17630313
>ohc is clearly the superior technology so I'm not even going to bother arguing

Can you have cylinder deavtivation in an OHC engine? Is it possible? Because this sort of thing is sort of important for a few things, and is a reason why Toyota Tundra v8's are a fucking joke in regards to efficiency. Oh, and also power.

Everything in its place, dumbass.

>>17630339
Look at the OP for the general gist of the topic.

>>17630341
But is physically bigger.

>>17630333
and those engines come in care that cost a hell of a lot less

>>17629346
alright so what is the cheapest engine to make over 1000whp with?

>>17629346
American V8s are available to anyone and as such are made for a much Lower price point.
European V8s are saved for top sports cars with 2-4 times the price of American v8 cars.

>>17630339
that junkyard turbo setup makes way more power per pound than that ariel atom v8

>>17630352
>produce something shit but cheap
>therefore it's better
why is it that american's can't produce anything worthwhile to compare to euro engineering

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Europe: invented the V8
America: invented cuckold porn

>>17630376
shit? its more reliable service costs are lower and costs way the fuck less to begin with euro engines are overpriced garbage

>>17630367
An LS.

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>>17630381
one of the biggest revolutions in automotive history was henry ford figuring out how to mass produce a v8

>>17629346
because america does things with "because that's the way they've been done" logic. European cars have their own problems, but american engineers are so fucking lazy and so afraid to progress they keep things the same and use shitty outdated technology in their cars.

>>17630346
>Cylinder Deactivation
>Done in Honda engines

>>17630387
now whats the cheapest engine to make 500whp?

>>17630403
An LS.

>>17630404
now for the final riddle whats the cheapest engine to make 300whp with?

>>17630397
That's why our big "blockbuster" movies suck so bad.

>>17630397
or rather americans choose to do the same thing cheaper and better based on techniques and technology thats tried and true

>>17630264
>pretty much every DOHC v8
i.e. not all.

>>17630411
An LS.

>>17630420
case solved LS is best engine americans make v8s better than anyone else

>>17630397
American engines
>old technology
>more power
>less physical space and weight
>reliable

European engines
>less displacement yet weigh more and occupy more space
>extremely expensive
>horrible maintenance and reliability
>government policy means only the rich can afford to drive cars with these engines

Haha but at least we have modern technology, r-right guys?

The big flaw here is comparing AMG engines to corvette or mustang engines.

Some of the AMG production numbers are well below 500, so it can be incredibly easy to have two people building these engines to high spec, and there is little need to keep the cost down, because of low volume and high cost of entry. (chevy and ford like to throw corvette and mustang engines in everything, so the make engines often in the ten's of thousands, rather than the hundreds, so skilled labor suddenly becomes an issue)

The consumer that buys a corvette, mustang, or whatever is vastly different than the consumer that wants an AMG merc. If you want to jump up and down comparing different facets of the american vs european vs asian car markets, here are some areas with actual meaningful differences, manual vs automatic, suspension, fwd vs rwd vs awd.

This is basically a bunch of people standing around arguing about which diameter of pen tip is better.

>>17630459
.7 is best pen tip

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>V8's
Nigga please

>>17630176
This so much. This is what the fags that can't drive a manual will never understand, and they're ruining cars

>>17629346
Isn't your Jew-ran Marxist government going to ban your vehicles? Lmao. I bet you cucked europoors actually think the illegal immigrants and radicals you import care about the enviroment too.

>>17630491
>radicals

Have you guys ever heard an amg v8 in person? They sound god damn awful, I generally don't like American cars but that exhaust note is horrendously ugly

>>17630476
>Not based smooth 1.6

>>17630287
but the forged titanium internals

>>17630139
That almost smooth curve downwards and then
>Fiat

he.

>>17630476
Nope. A smooth .5 is where the real action is.

>>17630195
>heavily modified
>still using the lm truck vortec intake


the dyno has a nice electric waterpump though...

>>17630144
>not heavy
>porsche h6 +turbos and intercooler

also its in a fucking GT3

>>17630612
>>17630649
A blue Pilot G-2 in .7mm is the best writing utensil known to man.

>>17630672
>GT3
>turbos and intercooler

>>17630235
OHV is a newer design than OHC

also an LS7 is comparable to the M159. they're both similar power and both dry-sump

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European V8 > American V6 > American V8

>>17630663
Hey, the stock Vortec intake isn't half bad.

>>17630333
>SLS AMG
>ford mustang

>>17630277
>FERRARI FXX V12

>>17630264
>Ariel Atom V8

>comparing supercars to cheap LS based vehicles

your so buttblasted for cherry picking these its hilarious

>>17630397
I love how buttblasted Europeans always say "America" when they're referring to GM

when its actually an Australian design
BOTH other major American manufacturers exclusively use OHC.

Remember Ford and Dodge? they're not OHV anymore and haven't been in a LONG time

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>>17630707

>>17630483
>tfw drive auto car but can heel-toe properly

"Those fags that can't drive manual"


>one day you'll realize you're a manchild with a superiority complex

>>17630707
Dodge still uses OHV though.

>>17630681
>GT3
>not intercooled twin turbo

what, you think the H6 is running like 116 octane or some shit? its not fucking N/A

>>17630724
It literally is though. GT3 is NA, GT2 is turbo'd.

>>17630722
no they don't you fucking idiot

even the old hemi 5.7 are OHC. kys

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>>17630724

>>17630649
Precise v5 RT in .5 is best

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>>17630734
Where are the cams?

>>17630735
>>17630728
i'll admit when i'm wrong, I always thought the GT3 was just like the GT2 with a tt h6


>its a legit homologation race spec engine for the street

>>17630065
Germany, once more, taking credit for glorious austrian design

>>17630759
you were right about it being large, but its not heavier.

>>17630760
tfw germany and austria still arent united

>>17630754
>when dodge uses SOHC V8s in 1997 and ditches it for OHV in their newest models

is this proving OHVs superiority?

>>17630781
OHV is a way better engine package, but sucks when you have displacement taxes or restrictions like in most racing.

>>17629373
Confuses the air so it makes more horses.

>>17630478
>*muffled sound of oil pump bolts unscrewing themselves*

>>17630264
thats just 2 hayabusa engines stuck together

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>>17630333

Ford Mustang Shelby GT350 / GT350R:
>0-to-60-mph: 4.3 sec
>poor handling
>cheap
>It can be found in anywhere

SLS AMG:
>0-to-60-mph: 3.5 sec
>Good handling
>Expensive
>Vehicle no longer in production

A brand new Ford Mustang got BTFO by 4+ years old MB SLS AMG.

>>17630447
>American engines
>>old technology
yeah
>>more power
At the expense of reliability
>>less physical space and weight
Depend on the type of car
>>reliable
Not all them. Some are reliable.

>>17632063
>gt350 poor handling
>gt 350 4.3 0-60

b8 or troll detected. Never mind the two cars are in two different price ranges and two different classes.

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Ford V8 > any other V8

When it you consider everything from horsepower/torque/price/reliability/sound/etc Ford is best. The only issue is physical size.

>>17632132
>size
And that's where the LS comes in.

>>17632160
nope

>>17629346
I guess because americans dont always use their v8s for solely for producing power.

In contrast with american cars, europeens dont need 500 hp in a commuter car because it is not necessary.

Yurops make v8s when they need raw power in a performance car, as opposed to americans, sticking v8s in commuter cars that can barely squeeze out 120 hp.

Tl;dr: Yurop v8s are better because they use them for the purpose v8s exist, to produce power.

>>17632315
American v8s aren't commuter engines, they're utility engines which are sometimes reworked for mediocre (but affordable) performance applications. Commuters drive v6s here. The shitty 120hp American v8s were pretty much just an 80s thing.

>>17630130
>sieze
>weight
>power
The audi V-8 engines beat the LS in power/weight ratio and are smaller.

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>>17633044
>smaller and lighter
The 4.2L is a fucking boat anchor

>>17630367
2 old bridge ported 13b-MSP with new apex-seals on a single excentric shaft naturaly aspirated.

Also much more narrow and smooth than a LS...

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>>17629346
>he doesn't know what a mark iv big block Chevy is
Its like you want to be slow

>>17633067
If you compare the actual engines instead of one stripped of almost anything and the other with a huge belt assembly, the physical sieze of some Audi V-8s is smaller.
(some of them are bigger, but also have much higher stock power outputs)

>>17633106
Really?
A well put together LS2 can put 600hp out without forced induction or nitrous.

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Is there actualy a NA engine as small and light as a R26B that can match its power?
Its foot print is smaller than 2 DIN A4 sheets of paper and it produces up to 930hp.

>>17633117
>LS2
Last time I checked they topped out at 307kW stock.

>>17633140
*274kW, sorry misread that one.

>>17630673
No the pilot 1.0 is

>Prove me wrong

>>17630717
I really don't feel superior, I just don't want it to die out as an option on small cars and sports cars. Is that way too much to ask you autofags?

>>17633126
What is that? Can I Google it? Is that ok?

>>17633181
That is what just about 1000hp NA looked like in 1990.
It was build for a enderance race...

Yes, you can google it, it is just some old racing engine.

Name one yuropoor v8 better than 5.2 voodoo.

>>17633194
Not a V-8 but the 5.2 FSI is better.

Europe tries to make good engines

Americans make cheap shit

>>17630039
>same throttle body for both sides, not a mirrored set

lame

>>17633140
If we're talking about swaps, all notion of "stock" goes out the window.
Your Audi engine is already stressed to the max making ~400hp while an LS2 can still manage to find another 200 horsepower with the right parts.
Also freedom units or no units

>>17630686
>corvette has a faster best lap, higher average speed, and had a last lap 100 seconds slower but still ended just barely 4 seconds after the GT.
H-he crashed on the last lap didn't he?

>>17633266
>Audi engine is already stressed to the max making ~400hp while an LS2 can still manage to find another 200 horsepower
Source on the Audi beeing stressed ount and the LS not?

>>17633266
>Your Audi engine is already stressed to the max making ~400hp

>stressed while not even making 100hpl

anon pls

a bolt on SC will make close to 700hp on race gas and a simple exhaust and tune will have it making a decent gain

a LS2 is going to start failing at 600

>>17630381
>invented cuckold porn
Somebody didn't start with the Greeks

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5.2 voodoo is best V8. yuropoors and nipshits literally can ever compete. Just wait for the 5.2 ecoboost.

>>17633156
1.0mm is pigfat garbage

>>17633337
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOqwooshRxA&t=1s

>>17629346
Why are yuropoors always in such denial about how shit their engines are?

>>17633337
>>17635721
also fucking race gas to make 700hp thats fucking adorable

>>17629346
Indeed that's why bmw and Mercedes v8s are swapped into everything.

>>17630179
Dodge doesn't count?
Awaiting your shit excuse

>>17630500
I actually think they sound pretty tuff, and I am a pushrod faggot

>>17629346

They make it overly engineered, which in turn is overly priced. So that rich Europeans can show their fancy carbon fiber engine bay to their rich European friends.
That thing is like 5 times the price of a respectable hemi i would assume.

>>17636065
>rich Europeans
These cars are built exclusively for their Arav overlords and you know it.

>>17630034
>>17630207
Rekt'd and kek'd

>>17635721
>>17635735
>complete custom built shit with nitrous vs stock engine with a bolt on kit

lmao

American v8s are garbage

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>>17630179

>>17637946
Yeah congrats on being unable to read.

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>>17637952

>>17637961
Alright, that got a chuckle out of me.

>>17630423
>>17630420
>>17630411
>>17630403
>>17630387
>>17630367
Wring
The answer to all is the mark iv big block chevy

>>17630115
Typical European has never heard of an American pickup truck.

>>17630139
I honestly thought Mazda would be higher on that list. I've heard nothing but mostly good things from their lineups.

>>17629346
>less torque
>overly complicated engineering
>plastic everything

>better

>>17638579
>torque
>relevant

>>17634200
Lol yuropoors will never be able to compete with this.

>>17638579
>plastic everything

I have to laugh at faggots who put chrome intake pipes with no intercooler on their engines.

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>>17630088
how? Theres literally nothing angry about the G class

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> ⌘ + F "yuropoor"
> 12 results

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>>17642531

Maybe the black ones look menace

>>17642546
>using a mac

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>ctrl+f "⌘"
>1 result

>>17642531

Except the hellfire blowing down under the doors.

https://youtu.be/rRIxgpdOo1I?t=2m30s

>>17642546

>⌘

hi macfag

>>17633271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzQ1VJkcSF4

yes

>corvette can't turn

>>17630085
>hurling around excess weight.
>call it 'untapped potential' and the americuck buys it.

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>>17633093
>540
Anon pls

>>17630476
>.7 is best pen tip

.7 drafting pencil a best

>>17642564
tfw shitskins in the fatherland

>>17637939
its a bolt on turbo kit he made 992whp in another video all turbo then made this one with a bump of nitrous its a 250k mile junkyard motor btw

>>17637939
>>17643024
oh forgot to add yuropoor engines are garbage

>>17643024
not impressed in the slightest

what a hot piece of shit

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>>17643031
all that displacement to make the same power as a 2.3L audi

I was trying to keep it to warranty and whatnot but since were having garbage junk builds I guess all is fine

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oh and these are awd so they make more power on top of it

4.0 Audi V8
stock internals

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>>17642625
I went from 200rwhp to 350rwhp with just headers exhaust and tune Cai.

Bone stock ls1 more modern ls3 has even more performance with a cam u can get 400rwhp to 600+ or turbo any ls ang get 700+ on 10psi it's literally a wet dream.

Eurocucks literally never drive v8s they can't even afford pussy dieselcuck

>>17643077
that looks like one pricey setup not a junkyard ls and a chinese turbo like sloppy mechanics build

>>17643092
how much does that audi v8 cost also lol sub 1000whp on stock internals

>>17643077
>>17643092
https://sites.google.com/site/sloppywiki/sloppy-builds/colorado

>>17643077
>expensive setup for racing on an audi
>junkyard thrown together ls with chinese turbo
you are so assblasted it's not even funny go back to carthrottle and come back when you're done with your shitfit

>>17629346
Europe is literally better at everything.

lol the retards got triggered by facts

American engines are shit

>>17643217
its funny because thats what a much bigger engine did and while only being 2wd lmao

why are American fans so hypocritical

>>17643221
>all that custom shit

yeah that thing is really shit

>>17643265
not my fault American engines are garbage

>>17643282
ok, go to his youtube, a start a comment fight with him since you are obviously the master car guy and know everything there is to know about building engines. also have fun getting raped by muslims in the back of your 60hp diesel hatchback

>>17643282
the fuck do you mean "all that custom shit" he just combined and reused things to make it cheaper, the shitty audi you posted has a lot more custom shit too

>>17643282
physically bigger no displacement wise yes

>>17643311
i dont get him sloppy is literally using ebay and junkyard shit to make 1000whp and this guy is comparing it to a expensive ass audi race setup

>>17643302
Im not arguing with yet another delusional American v8fag

I get enough of that on here

only thing I have to worry about being raped by are in the closet rednecks in the back of their Dodge Rams

>>17643311
the damn fuel system alone is close to $3k

custom built turbo

thing is fucking garbage dude

cant even break 1000whp which is something much smaller engines can do

>>17643318
irrelevant as usual

>>17643282
Corvette LT5 is the finest V8 ever produced.

No arguments.

>>17643341
You mean the one where they had to bring in Lotus because GM can't into DOHC?

>>17643337
you gotta be trolling man and yes the fuel system is gonna be expensive theres no way around it do you think the shitty audi setups you sperg over have any less in the fuel system?

>>17643355
>its a cheap build
>with a $3k+ fuel system
>$2k turbo system
>$1.5k engine management system
>6.0L V8 that makes less power than stock block 3.0 inline 6s

a reminder that you guys are the ones pretending its some junkyard cheap build

>>17643370
Now show the price list for those Audi builds.

>>17643370
literally the cheapest way to get 1000whp so yes it is a cheap build also i did the math and with the fuel management system its like 2800 bucks

>>17643379
sorry fuel system and fuel management system is like 2800 bucks

>>17643370
it also has a stock block, and stock internals you delusional jdm faggot

>>17643395
im the murican guy i was stating that the sloppy build is the cheapest way to get that hp shoulda clarified

>>17643400
yeah, i know

>>17643376
lol the 4.0s build is a little cheaper while using high quality parts

the turbo setup and shit is like $6800 then add in another $2500 for APR shit

wow and actual good car

>>17643379
2JZ would be cheaper

so no

>>17643395
so does the Audi which makes even more power lol

nothing impressive about that shitheap truck

>>17643405
in what world is a 2jz cheaper, the only way you are going to find a 2jz is from a dealer or high profile part out, whereas for an ls I can get in my car, drive 10 minutes to the junkyard, pull 1 of several complete ls engines, pay 150 dollars for it and go home

>>17643417
2JZ is cheaper than a LS

and i have to go to work so have fun thinking up arguments I guess

>>17643405
you forgot the fuel system and management system gaskets etc

>>17643405
>shitheap truck
>runs 9s
ok faggot, I know that you're autistic but could you at least try to appear rational

>>17643421
>2JZ is cheaper than a LS
ahahahahahhaha
AHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>17643421
ok have fun at mcdonalds

>>17643430
the truck is a shitheap that also happens to be extremely cheap and fast

>>17643440
it's supposed to be a shitheap, i should've reworded that

>>17643431
delusional redneck

can get a 2JZGTE with trans for $2000
same for an LS1 is $3500 for a worse engine

American engines
paying more for garbage

>>17643430
>1000whp
>can barely break into the 9s

its not even fast for what it is

fucking garbage

>>17643428
its not a shit engine
can actually handle it without thousands of dollar of basic shit

>>17643439
>working for a company

lmao nice projection