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VIPER 7:03 FIRST RUN

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http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a10349049/2017-dodge-viper-gts-r-nurburgring-ring-lap-time-farnbacher/

>5s faster than GT-R Nismo on 1st run
>could barely get a good dry run in
>7th place on the leaderboard, 4th if you take out track built cars

USA

USA

USA
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>>17606303
Good job snake. Age hasn't slowed you down one bit.
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>>17606303
Kept you waiting, huh?
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>>17606314
Kept you waiting
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>>17606303
GTR fangirls on suicide watch
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>>17606332
Its not the official run. it was just their first attempt in non-perfect conditions.
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>>17606337
So it's completely irrelevant, got it.
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>>17606337
this is the best part

this car might just be as fast as a fucking 918 spyder around the track holy shit
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>>17606314
11.44 seconds slower haha

15 seconds slower than a similar road legal track toy.
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>>17606342
>So it's completely irrelevant
Just like the GTR
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>>17606348
Radicals aren't production.
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>>17606352
And has actually set an official time, and it's actually volume production.
FCA cucks eternally BTFO.
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i am a german car fanboy but i'm unironically rooting for Snek.
Hope they keep the car street legal with legal tyres etc though
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>>17606342
>ASSMAD GT-R BOI
>>17606348
>fake time
lol
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>>17606353
Viper is less production than Radical if you know what I mean ;)
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>>17606358
>record was done with a nismo n edition
>literally not production

WEEB

MORON

L O L
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>>17606367
Yea, i know what you mean. discontinued and whatnot (last one hasn't rolled off assembly line yet)
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>>17606377
>literally just a trim level
Sperg more
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>>17606352
butt blasted fan boy
sperg more
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>>17606384
https://www.carthrottle.com/post/heres-what-goes-into-building-a-nissan-gt-r-nismo-n-attack/

weeb

B T F O
T
F
O
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>>17606391
You can literally order a NISMO N-Attack on their site
Keep sperging though
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>>17606303
Honestly like to see them record two lap times. one in the wet, one in the dry.
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Weebs having a meltdown ITT
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how long till dodge goes back to sanity and stops stopping production?
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+4.6 Litres
+4 cylinders
+55hp
+161Nm
+5 seconds around a 20.8 km track

But more importantly
>GTS-R Commemorative Edition ACR: To commemorate the success of the Viper racing program starting back in the 1990s, the company will offer 100 examples of the 2017 Dodge Viper GTS-R Commemorative Edition ACR.
Only 100 made, it's invalid. Nissan will make as many Nismo N's as customers want.
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>>17606434
This, it's not volume production. It's literally irrelevant.
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>>17606434
Its just a trim of the Viper though. the Viper itself isn't limited. this was already discussed and argued. it would be like trying to discount the GT2 RS when its based on the 911 which is not limited.

>+5 seconds around a 20.8 km track
with non-perfect conditions and not even the final attempt. it will be a bigger gap than the N-attack vs 3rd party z06 test.
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>>17606454
>it will be a bigger gap than the N-attack vs 3rd party z06 test
[citation needed]
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>>17606434
-2 turbos
-2 wheels getting power
-led by a bunch of hicks and not by dodge
-bad track condition
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>>17606410
They legally can't, new safety bullshit

And FCA needs to keep Ferrari happy
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>>17606497
Ferrari isn't part of FCA anymore, so they can do what they damn well please.
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>>17606434
if you squint your eyes it almost looks like a C7 vette
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>>17606490
more importantly
--archaic transmission vs state of the art auto transmission
--funded by a bunch of poorfag americans vs funded by 10,000,000 crossover sales/year
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Lmao Alphonse ran out of arguments, no recovery for the sperg
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>>17606536
>implying you didn't take your name off
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>>17606536
Rotflmao, you literally broke this board
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>>17606454
>with non-perfect conditions
>>17606490
>bad track condition
[citation needed]
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>It wasn't easy: the privateers originally scheduled one hour of closed-track lap time on Monday, July 24th, to attempt to set a lap time. But heavy rains all day scuttled those plans, leaving the team only able to practice during open lapping sessions with significant traffic, often under wet, rainy conditions. When a brief window of track time became available this afternoon, the team scrambled into action
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>alphonse and his weeb defense force literally having a meltdown that some amateurs in the rain beat their meme machine using a literal tractor with fat tires and a wing

You cannot make this shit up
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based pushrods win yet again
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>>17606502
FCA shareholders own 90% of Ferrari
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>>17606561
my god if they get a full, quality attempt

it could be a 6:58 car

FUCK AMERICAN SAFETY BULLSHIT GOD DAMNIT
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>>17606657
>tfw fucking soccermoms have killed cool cars in the states forever
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Does the Viper have any new fancy technology?
What are its specs?

t. been living under a rock
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>>17607013

\\DOWNFORCE//
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NO

DELET THIS
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>>17607013
Better stability control. better traction control. might have active steering though not entirely sure. its been normie'ized a bit so it appeals to the average joe more. an Automatic version would've helped sales a lot though.
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>>17607013
Big fucking tires and big fucking wings, propelled by a big fucking engine.
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I love the snek but I'm not a USA fanboy
so I'll cheer for snek only, sorry burgers
SNEK SNEK SNEK
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>>17607043
That's fine, anon.
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someone make an edit of this but with the viper
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>>17607062
which episode of sabagebu so I can screenshot it
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>>17607062
I think you mean Alphonse kek
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>>17607065
I don't know, have no seen it
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>>17607075
Me and Alphonse are a different person

>>17607065
also just add the viper under the lambo
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Thank you for accepting this deft like an honorable man s/o/viet, meanwhile Alphonse is so assblasted because he got btfo along with his shitty threads
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Itt: gtr fan girls crying and being in denial
>b-b-but it's not production
That's not the point when laptimes are all that matter and the viper did that in unfavorable conditions
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>>17607091
>>17607095
at least it was not the corvette

that would've atually make me assmad
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>>17607037
What size tires?
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>>17606303
no video made. lol, sperg more
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>>17607114
295s at the front, 355s at the back.
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>>17607121
no video made of the GTR either. lol, sperg more
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>>17607126
thicc
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>>17607135
wrong. sperg harder
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>>17607148
wrong. sperg harder
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>>17607076
>>17607084
alright I have the episodes download, I'll skim through them
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>>17606392
Where? Show me where because last I looked you had to buy the actual Nissan GTR, contact a Nissan dealer and have the request put out for them to give you the package, wait to see if they even say yes, send your car out and pay close to $80k and then wait for the damned thing to come back.
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>>17607171
just add the viper under the lambo dude
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>>17607158
sperg more
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>>17607179
the quality of the original is shit, I take pride in my work faggot
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>>17607194
its a fucking meme
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>>17607217
>not taking pride in the quality of your memes
I spent 15 minutes specifically cropping Jezza's thumb on pic related, just to make it look like the image is actually on the paper he's holding.
If you're gonna meme, do it well.
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100 examples of the 2017 Dodge Viper GTS-R Commemorative Edition ACR.

so the GT-R Nismo is still the fastest production car, got it.
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>>17607239
nope, sperg more
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>Nissan fangirl meltdown ITT
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>>17607258
not an argument
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>The pinnacle of automotive technology with a performance version specifically made for nords
>4wd, DCT TTV6
>beaten by RWD redneck car, powered by a big ol' 10 cylinder that goes through an old school manual gearbox
>that just has a bit of a wing and fatter tyres
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>>17607239
still lost lmao, and even lost to a rebadged vw lmao
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>>17607295
And your argument is still slower than a fat fiat 124
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>>17607225
>just to make it look like the image is actually on the paper he's holding.
>didn't add compression artifacts and unfocus blur to the image to make it look like it's actually in the scene
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so the GT-R Nismo is still the fastest production car, got it.
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>>17607312
Will this satisfy you?
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so the GT-R Nismo is still the owner of the most assmad fangirls, got it.
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>>17607336
sperg more
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>>17607336
cry more bitch boy, it wasn't a production car. it was a special run of 100
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>84 posts, 29 assmad Nismo fangirls
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>>17607348
and 55 assmad pushcucks
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>>17607337
>>17607340
Your tears are delicious.
oh, and see >>17607336
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>>17607348
>>17607350
cry more bitch boy, it wasn't a production car. it was a special run of 100
no matter how many times you say "lol ur butthurt" it doesn't change the fact that it isn't a production car
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>>17607358
lol look at this loser melting down
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>>17607358
>stalking the thread so he can respond instantly
This is some next level of butthurt
It's just a viper with a bodykit. Nothing special about it.
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>>17607363
>>17607370
before you type "lol ur butthurt" yet again, please refer to >>17607358
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>>17607358
see >>17607336
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>>17607376
pretty sure that changed after this thread
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>>17607374
>>17607376
see
>>17607363
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>could of been a good thread were /o/tists got together to cheer on Snek
>ruined by muh usa vs muh jap shitposting
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>>17607390
Just ignore it and appreciate how dodge managed to git-er done.
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The Viper "GTS-R" is literally a just a visual trim package for the ACR and nothing else, along with the 1:28 and Snakeskin packages. Stay fucking BTFO Nissucks
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>Viper? Who is she?
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>>17607419
stay btfo https://nurburgringlaptimes.com/lap-times-top-100/
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>>17607419
It still has more in it. This is the first try on bad conditions.
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>tfw your kid makes a car in the shed that btfos everyone

Good job chaps.
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>>17607434
lmao doesnt count because its not production
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>>17607448
see
>>17607363
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>>17607426
>>17607433
10 seconds after the huracan
OBSESSED
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lel. So a bunch of boomers basically just got together and used a stock snek to put down one of the fastest laps around the ring?

wtf
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>>17607457
not an argument
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>>17607464
Boomers likely wouldn't have cared. these guys were dedicated shitposters whoever they were. most of us just argue in our bedrooms. these guys used their own money. i would never take it that far no matter how much i liked the car.
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>>17607419
Viper? Never heard of her bro
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>>17607225
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>Still slower than a road car built in some guys shed in England
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>>17607861
KEK
nismofags and gm fangirls simultaneously btfo
snek is the king
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>>17606303
SNEK! SNEK! SNEK!

Sub-7m when?
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>>17607867
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>>17606497
what safety bullshit?
what specifically is getting outlawed?
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>>17607919
Viper can't fit side curtain airbags
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>>17607919
side airbags. FCA thought it was not worth the redesign(that would've ruined the car's performance to some degree), so they are dropping production altogether.
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>>17607930
>>17607922

>tfw car i own has literally zero airbags

fucking hippies, killing everything good
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>>17606434
>1st.
>+4.6 Litres
gt-r has at least 1 bar of boost stock
>2nd.
>+4 cylinders
>actually a handicap
+55hp
>see 2nd
>3rd.
>+161Nm
irrelevant as you can juggle gear ratios the way you want
>4rd.
>+5 seconds around a 20.8 km track
so 0.65s around Spa is also irrelevant?
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>>17607934
And queue a crashed Viper
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>>17607934
>Celebrating 7th place this hard
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>>17607037
>>17606570
This pretty much sums it up. Yesterday's parts today! Just bigger.

Dodge engineers knew they had some serious work cut out for them if they wanted to remain competitive with everyone else. So what do, high tech components? Adjustable turbine forced induction? All wheel drive? Perfect the balance? Hybrid drive? F1-style transmission?

Nope. None of that... too hard, and we're lazy. Just make everything bigger. The beauty is in the simplicity, that's the art of it

I'm going to be really sad when this goes away because then the States will only have Corvette. Dark times
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>>17608096
I don't think people realize how much more technology the new vipers have compared to the last gens.
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>>17608127
Well yeah, you could also glue a blinking LED to a rock and argue the rock is now more technologically advanced. The point was it's not utilizing present day cutting edge tech very effectively
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>>17606303
>snek beats the JEE TEE ARU
>it is just a lightweight manual car with a big engine
>and most importantly
>REAR
>WHEEL
>DRIVE
>when everyone was saying "b-b-b-b-but rwd is finished! awd is better!"
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>Snek
>8.4L V10
>3300lbs
>GT-R and new NSX
>3.8L V6TT
>3900lbs
Why do people call American cars fat again?
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>>17608044
>I-it's not l-like you're the fastest
>S-see i-it doesn't really count
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>>17608242
The best part is the VR38DETT is only like 50lbs lighter than the 8.4 Viper V10 lol
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not an official time so it means nothing

benchracers literally spent 6 figures to do this
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>>17608270
the VR is the better engine tho
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>>17608280
>Being slower is better
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>>17608270
50lbs lighter with well over 100lbs of turbo and piping while being a DOHC

Viper engine really is a horrible sounding pig
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>>17608215
Modern stability and traction control is quite a deal more than an LED light.
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>>17608296
>Viper engine really is a horrible sounding pig
Not him but C'mon it's not bad, nowhere near the best
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>>17608288
except that the fastest VR is faster than the fastest viper v10???
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It's unfortunate that we have no plans for a next generation viper.
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>>17608307
dude nah

I think GTRs sound like shit but the Viper is one of the worst sounding cars Ive ever heard
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Still slower than a sedan.
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>>17608333
GT3 spec vipers would be faster than that.
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>>17608339
Then let's test it
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>>17607302
Audi is the rebadged VW you sperglord, get your fuhrer mobiles right.
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>>17607037
God Bless
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>>17608310
You can mod a Viper ya know. It's not a strung out V6
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>>17608333
>Subaru made the fastest 4 door street-illegal race car that isn't actually used in any racing championship and doesn't even have rear seats
Wow Subaru, congratulations on making up your own category and winning in it.
>>17608364
GT3 Cup cars are faster.
http://www.carscoops.com/2016/09/ford-gt-clocks-record-nurburgring-lap.html
7:58 over the 24.4km circuit would be proportionally a 6:48 over the 20.8km Nordschliefe.
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>7:03
>not even in optimal conditions
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>>17608426
What category did the viper actually win in?
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>>17608451
On the nurburgring they have different names for the classes of cars that race there. some "SP9" and "SP7" or something along those lines. they are closely related to GT3 cars though if not with different regulations.

Viper was in the "SP9" class when it won the Nurburgring in the early 2000s.

Modern GT3 spec vipers haven't been raced at the ring. wish they were for another shot at winning. that would give the Viper a truly great send off.
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>>17608478
I am talking about the viper in the OP.
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>>17608502
Causing weeb butthurt
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>>17608421
Dude imagine how Xbox huge a turbo would have to be to supply ènough air to that engine.
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>>17608520
Sequential quad turbo? Two huge ones that require two small ones just to spool up? I think that'd be neat
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>>17608421
still slower than the fastest VR you braindead autist

let's not forget that the VR makes 800hp with just a tune
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>>17608531
Uh, no? 8.4L = huge amounts of exhaust gasses to spool the turbo. Turbos on big engines don't lag like they do on 4cyls. A simple twin turbo kit will make 1200HP+ reliably on stock internals with no fuss.
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https://youtu.be/-NdCPhMJbCc

thread theme
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>>17608541
>He thinks that's impressive

Challenger makes that from the factory LMAO
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>s/o/viet in full damage control
ALL THE DAY LONG BRO.
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>>17608580
Nismocucks are scrambling for some sort of advantage now that they are BTFO forever.

Been a rough month for Nismocucks, first the AMG GTR and now this.
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>>17607866
>built in a cuck shed
>in England
story checks out
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>>17608541
Dude vipers were being tuned past 1000hp back in the 90's.
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S/o/viet used to claim Vipers used 100% Lamborghini engines lol
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>>17608580
the doesn't have a viper v10???

>>17608598
and??? the fastest VR is still faster down the quarter than the fastest viper v10

the viper v10 is an outdated engine

>>17608593
>>17608590
>doesn't even know what we are talking about
sperg more

>GT R
the AMG GT R is slower???
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Would any straight male really chose a fucking rice cooker over a Viper? You have to really hate cars to do that. I despise dodge/chrysler/fiat but I love the Viper. A true enthusiast car.
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>>17608609
thats because they do

>>17608612
tons of people considering the Viper was cancelled lol
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>>17608617
>thats because they do


Imagine being this stupid, folks.
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>>17608610
Are you retarded?
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>>17608617
Vipers never had the normalfag appeal like HURR SKYLINE GTR did. More sales does not equal better product. By that logic McDonald's is the best cuisine in the world. Faggot.
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>Nissan fangirls going full Chernobyl because their postercar got BTFO by a Sebring in a bodykit
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So a hick made car outperformed Nissan's top engineers?
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>>17608625
stay BTFO and sperg more

the viper v10 is trash, the viper would be better with an allow modern hemi

>>17608621
stay BTFO and sperg more

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viper_engine

>Lamborghini engineers revamped Dodge's cast-iron block V10 for the Viper by recasting the block and heads in aluminum alloy. Prototype blocks were cast by Lamborghini

>>17608636
>n-no it d-doesn't count!
lol, the initial argument was that no one in their right mind would buy a GTR over a Viper, yet the Viper got cancelled due to poor sales

>>17608637
no one is denying the fact that the Viper is faster around the ring???
are you autistic???
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>>17608642
Do you see the supertext next to that statement where it states [citation needed]?
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>Slower than 2 Brits, 2 Italians, a German and even a Chinese car
>Americans proclaim this as some kind of massive victory

Have a bit of ambition lads
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God bless Dodge
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>>17608642
I rike snek, but let's be fair, snek is probably the least hick out of all American performance cars other than the Ford GT. It's not even dodge's most powerful car, and it's much more of a cornering car than both the original viper or any of America's performance cars.
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>>17608575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1mlCPMYtPk
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Goddamn s/o/viet, get back to discord and calm down. You're really on edge.
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>>17608938
nice meme
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>>17608096
More like AWD is a fucking meme if you want 35% of your power just pissed away, in addition to being heavier than RWD.

Or maybe, JUST maybe, RWD truly is superior, and all this technology was just smoke and mirrors? Much like how "modern autos shift faster than a human can", yet a manual beat an automatic? Or how "forced induction is the replacement for displacement", while ignoring turbo lag, throttle response, and significantly reduced engine reliability?

The only way modern trends would be BTFO in a major way is if Mazda made a brand new rotary that not only meets emissions testings, but it also destroys on the 'ring.
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>>17606303
Limited production track built car, quick take out all the other limited production track built cars because they shit on it.

>>17606353
Yes they are, or were when they were current, the new ones are also production, they just haven't been run on the Ring yet.

>>17606380
There are also fewer being made than the SR8-LM.
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>>17610316
Snek BTFO by some Brits in a shed.
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>>17610316
>Limited production
The Viper isn't limited production. trim production =/= model limited production.

>Yes they are
They aren't on the production section of the nurburgring wiki and even Sport Auto said they aren't. the Huracan is the only one recognized as fastest production car on the ring.
>There are also fewer being made than the SR8-LM.
There were around 600 Vipers sold last year. are you saying there are more than 600 radicals being sold per year?
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I've been living under a rock as well : is snek discontinued or not? /o/ was all "rip snek" a few weeks ago, but I haven't looked into it since then.
So can you still buy a brand new snek?
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>>17610872

>>17607930
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OHHHH SAYYYY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>17608662
Wut? The modern HEMI is a horribly underpowered engine. The v10 is insurmountably better.
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>>17606548
Did you even read the article? It rained pretty much all day
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>>17610961

>the hemi sucks, the hemi is better!
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>>17610988
Viper engine is a "Hemi"?
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*rams my cock down your throats*
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>>17610982
And when they got an opening they took it.
Which means the track was a good enough condition to go all out.
Back to english class kid.
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>>17606364
Fake time?
Splain please.
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UOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO
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>viper being cancelled due to a variety of unfortunate coincidences
>"NAH BRUH DEY JUS DON SELL"
keep sperging bruh

Mighty snek TAKE MY ENERGY
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Could they bring the viper back as a limited Production vehicle?
Also I can't but feel Dodge Nerf'd the viper power wise somehow.
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>>17608662
>block and heads
changing from one metal to another = %100
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>>17610946
yes
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>>17611123

only able to practice during open lapping sessions with significant traffic, often under wet, rainy conditions. (THIS PART,STUPID)When a brief window of track time became available this afternoon, the team scrambled into action.

The "opening" is not weather based,it was traffic based,as in the track time they reserved became partially available.
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Yet that didn't save the snek. F to pay respects to snek.
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>>17607358
Mechanically unchanged, just a special livery. Cry more faggot.
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>>17611031
Not production faggot, also had a shorter course to run
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i like both cars though
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>>17611653
>This limited edition package will include the Extreme Aero Package, the carbon ceramic brakes and the exterior carbon package. Dodge then adds a pearl white exterior paint with Blue Pearl GTS stripes, American flags on the pillars, red seat belts, production ACR interior, a serialized dash plaque with the GTS-R logo and a matching car cover with the owner’s name over the driver’s door.
>Extreme Aero Package
>carbon ceramic brakes
>cosmetic changes
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>>17613055
>>Extreme Aero Package
>>carbon ceramic brakes
All options available on the non-Commemorative Edition ACRs.
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>>17613055
>extreme aero package
>carbon ceramics
>both things the ACR comes with
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>>17606570
>using a literal tractor with fat tires and a wing

In the tradition laid down by Lamborghini Vs Ferrari.
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>>17613065
>>17613071
>ACR
Limited production run (Viper) of a limited production run (ACR) of a limited production run (GTS-R Commemorative Edition ACR)
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>>17613147
The Viper isn't limited though
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>>17613151
Order one right now.
Oh wait, you can't because all production orders have been filled
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>>17613166
>ending production = the car was limited from the factory
Id post a pretending to be retarded.jpg but that>>17613071
anon already did.
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>>17607013
lots of mechanical grip
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrehQjsz5ck
me rn
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>>17606303
U S A

U S A
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>>17614777
goddamn i'm proud to be an american
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It took Americans millions of dollars, thousands and thousands of man hours and a high-end, very expensive, limited run sports car to beat an i4 econo-box's time on a 20km track. But we did it America, we finally beat the Japs at something.
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Has anyone talked with Soviet? The gtr was like his nakama.
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>>17615114

sick b8 bro, I'm sure you'll get a bunch of (You)s from this one
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>>17606353
>>17606367
>>17607866
>>17610316
The SR8-LM is not road legal, it is """""road legal""""" in that they were able to apply for MFG development plates and it's theoretically just a performance trim on the SR4, but 0 SR8LMs have ever been registered by a customer. If you let the oil temp fall under 200 degrees, you have to stop the motor and use an oil heater. It's essentially an LMP1 that everybody winked at, and has never been certified for emissions or road worthiness.
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>>17615166
I was here the moment this thread was posted
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>>17607525

Same here
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>>17615686
Even if the Viper passes up the GTR, I'm sure Nissan will do something to get back the title. I have to say though, out of all the american cars I do like the Viper. The SRT guys seem to be one of the only competent American performance divisions.
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>>17606346
and it's AMERICAN.


FUCK YEAH :D
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>>17615187
Let go down this rabbit hole.
All times are invalid because the drivers are wearing full-faced helmets that would obstruct your view while driving on a road and land you in legal trouble.
The fastest production car will now be determined by whoever went around with an open face helmet on. Someone in a BMW 325 would be my guess.
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>>17616462
Oh you mean those helmets?
Those motorcycle helmets?
Which are allowed, nay, required to use the track?
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>>17609142
>The only way modern trends would be BTFO in a major way is if Mazda made a brand new rotary that not only meets emissions testings, but it also destroys on the 'ring.

This makes me moist just thinking about it
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>third party
>still not volume production
literally irrelevant
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>>17616581
That shit would be so cash
Make it a 4 or 6 rotor for extra butthurt
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>>17616575
Any full faced helmet that would not be representative of the cars equipment on the road.

Actually being production (which the Viper is not) would mean that the helmet had to come with the car as standard equipment.
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>>17606303
Wow, it finally made a round without breaking down.
Impressive, Dodge.
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>>17616622
man that is the dumbest argument i have heard over track times.
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>>17616697
Perfectly in line with the thread then
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>>17616067
Ya the srt team is awesome. It's a shame the normal cars dodge/fiat (minus the 124 spider abarth) makes are fucking garbage and they're going to need to be bailed out in the next 4 years.
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>>17616962
FCA isn't going to need a bailout anytime soon because they are too large and are still making money regardless of what cars they have that fail.

Fiat makes a lot of money on their Fiats.
Jeep makes a lot of money on their Jeeps.
Ram makes a lot of money on their trucks.

In order for Dodge or Chrysler to fail the Giant that is FCA would have to go down. that could also potentially effect Hyundai and Mitsubishi who all collaborated with FCA to make engines they could all use to meet emissions and save on development cost under the Global Engine Alliance. FCA is likely never going to sell Chrysler because it would mean throwing a large series of dealer networks they can use to sell Fiats and market share in the US away.
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>>17616995
True enough, they are huge. It's just a shame that the build quality on stiff like the dart, base challenger/charger, fiat 500, ect is so garbage.
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Any updates on the snek?
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>>17616067
Doubt it. The newest model of the GTR isnt much more performance oriented than the last one that set the record, and they'd probably have to do a platform redesign if anything.
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>>17616462
>The fastest production car will now be determined by whoever went around with an open face helmet on. Someone in a BMW 325 would be my guess.
Where's that video of the guy going ham on the 'ring in an RUF CTR with nothing but a polo shirt and loafers?
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>>17618777
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BjEypd3c7AQ
absolute madman
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I think we can all agree that snek is an amazing car and its sad to see it go, weebs and eurocucks will disagree and have a meltdown but deep down they know its true which makes the meltdown even worse
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