Heel Toe Downshift techniques

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also here for the curious what happened to my car.
Picture is taken from the local newspaper. Silver car bottom left corner

I miss my CLK ._.
(I just recently had it repainted and just ordered a compressor for it as well not to mention the buttock-load of paperwork I did to get it approved aswell)

>>17601611
au

Heel toe only works on sports cars. The pedal spacing, throttle response, and other factors won't allow you to do it as properly as it should be , thinking you're doing it wrong when all you have is the wrong car

>>17601655
ok thx, yeah I was starting to suspect the pedal spacing.

Guess I'll just have to start doing hard practice once I get my GT86.

I was hoping I could do it as much as possible on the Avensis so that I didn't have to do too much practice on my future car and risk damaging it when I get it wrong.

>>17601583
Just practice more, also if you brake harder it will be easier to blip the gas pedal.

I almost feel like I'm skipping when I do it, as gay as it sounds.

>>17601726
nothing is gay if you play eurobeat while doing it :P

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heeltoe is only helpful when driving at >8/10 on a track under hard braking. it's stupid and the sure sign of a boyracing faggot on the street.

>>17601797
Not really. It's fun and makes the car smoother on safe turns

>>17601583
Forget the "downhill" and "uphill" nonsence.

Why would you brake approaching a hill?

It comes to car pedal spacing, foot size and shoe you are wearing.

Personally most times with my size 11 feet I do the "uphill" movement as trainers are wide footed. But "downhill" in formal / semi casual tighter fit shoes. Especially so if the sole is thin.

Do what feels right and practice practice. Ignore morons who say you can only do it on a track. No one is born doing things that require any sort of precision exercise, or learn from doing it in the situation it is to be used in in isolation.

>>17601828
>rainers are wide foot
Hey, good advice, there are no tracks where I live, However, I live in a country that is literally the country of Mountain passes, where people every Easter bloody risk their lives driving through passes that regularly have rock slides just to get to their cabin for a weekend. There are so many mountain passes here and very low population, I'm bound to find somewhere where there is hardly any traffic and has a good sized amount of curves.

The track would be nice and all. But I have respect for those who master the regular streets. Given that they actually organize and do their best to not get other Traficant involved.

I always use my work shoes as they are comfy as heck, look actually pretty decent as normal shoes and has metal tip protection to boot.

>heel and toe in a 2014 mustang
It's impossible lads

>>17601797
actually, if you're pretty good with heel toe and know how to match your gear to revs, you'll be driving way more fuel efficient for normal driving.
Not to mention if you turn really good at it, you'll stop any unnecessary jerking movement of the car and you'll be driving smooth as f.
So I don't see why there aren't any reason to NOT to learn it

>>17601583
It's really easy to heel toe in the 86. I always use the method on the left. At first it might feel like the brake pedal is too high but, on track or when you're hooning, you press the brake in enough where the two pedals are even.

your pedals need to be moderately close together in order for it to be more workable. stock pedals on most cars don't really facilitate it. buy some screw-in attachments that are wider and have an extended heel-toe lip on the gas pedal. You also have to be pretty bold about it, as the pedal needs to be pushed down pretty significantly for it to feel like it makes sense.

I actually don't have enough foot space to completely roll my foot to the side like in your image, I have to effectively do an in-between of that image and rolling my ankle sideways. It works just fine, however, and I'm able to click down through gears while braking very effectively.

What helped me learn mostly was just thinking about it as just rev matching and slowly adding in braking to the mix Once you figure out how to easily rev-match your downshifts, then you just have to port the concept over to doing it while braking before a given corner.