Why are column shifters virtually gone these days?

>>17577300
Too many people putting them in their butts. Virtually all column shifters smell like doodie.

>>17577300
gm still uses them even in their luxury cadillac suvs

>>17577314
they have column shifters on miatas?

>>17577300
My fathers car has one, it sucks

>>17577300
one of my favorite things about the tesla model s is the column shifter. reminds me of my first car, a crown vic.

>>17577300
Because they'd terrible.

>>17577370
If you can't insert a column shifter into your anus, you need to work on your acrobatics. No flexibility. SAD

Because that makes it harder to manual swap the car.

>>17577300
>Why are column shifters virtually gone these days?

For anti-theft purposes. Jamal had an easier time with columns because it's very similar in feel to holding a chicken leg. Modern shifters feel too much like penis stroking and blacks don't go for the gay shit. Brilliant engineering.

>>17577300
Mercedes uses them in their automatics

>>17577300

Transmissions aren't physically shifted by anything anymore. Having a floppy stick doesn't make sense when you can just use buttons or a knob.

All plebs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdJxBqe27zA

>TFW No 5 on the tree

>>17577563
Not really.

>>17577573
Buttons seem like an awful idea.

>Opps i fat fingered the wrong button and now my car is in park or reverse

at least with a shifter you have an idea of what you're shifting into.

Aren't Fords fitted with column shifters?

Manual transmission column shifters.

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>>17577300
No more RWD land barges to pull sweet J turns with.

>>17577300
are those just an American meme?

I've never seen them in Australia and they always confused my when I saw them in American movies.

I thought it was your handbrake or something

>>17577691
Not in any recent ines I've been in, but I'm pretty sure the police explorers do because there's a computer in the way.

>>17577300
Floor shifters are thought of as more sporty. Plus it's cheaper to make because the shift cable doesn't have to be as long. In many RWD floor-shifted cars, the shifter goes straight into the transmission, bypassing cable linkages entirely.

Some cars are meant to have column shifters, such as pickups, minivans, and full-size family cars. But they're horribly out of place in the vehicles people actually buy these days.

>>17577672
>at least with a shifter you have an idea of what you're shifting into.

Not really on a PRNDL straight line shifter, Some might have shift gates that prevent you from going into reverse at 60 but older trucks and cars feel like a rod rubbing against some lumps. On a lot of cars the only to tell what gear your in is by feeling the car roll or looking at the dash indicator. Hundreds of people have died this way.

>>17577573
Most of the last decade plus of column shifters weren't physically attached to anything, either- most vehicles with them were either fullsize sedans or minivans, both with electronically-controlled transmissions like the Ford AOD-E and 4R70, the GM 4L60, or the Chrysler A60x.

>>17577300
I used a column shifter for the first time ever (rented a GMC Sierra from UHaul to buy some plywood). Shit was so vague and floppy, hated having to really look at the dashboard to know what gear I was in.

>>17577808
You're just not used to it.

Once you drive it for a while you get a feel of the detents as you pull down on it.

I have that issue when I drive any automatic.

I own 3 vehicles, and they're all 5 spd manuals.

>>17577840
I guess you're right about getting used to it, but it just had so much slop within the detents, I'm used to normal floor-mounted autos, which have like no slop in the shifter.

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>>17577751
Correct you are.

Mercedes has them, at least in the E-class and SUV's

>>17577886
Why couldn't they do a dash shifter like in a minivan?

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>>17577896
Because then the dash shifter would take up space in the center console area. Remember different departments are going to have different amounts of shit attached to the dashboard and center area as it is- the more free space available, the better. Not to mention the officers themselves needing room to work the equipment, carry shit, fill out paperwork, etc.

The Taurus interceptors come with a column shifter as well, but because they're still based off the standard Taurus with its full center console, there still isn't as much room as the old Crown Victorias.

>>17577510
Why the christ would a car that expensive not have a paddle shifter

>>17577552
>blacks don't go for the gay shit.
My nigga hit up craigslist in any area with any black community. 50% blacks in the population? 80% of craigslist ads.

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>>17577938
>electric car with only one gear
>paddle shifters

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>>17577951

>>17577863
>>17577808
Most cars with column shifts have a couple screws under the steering column or near the pedals holding the assembly straight- slop or looseness in the shifter is often a result of one or more of those screws becoming loose or working themselves out entirely over years of use, especially likely in a rent-a-truck abused left and right.

>>17577300
They're still here, you're only gonna find them in base model pickup trucks like almost all of GM's trucks or police cars.

Automakers are trying to be innovative with the shift. By that they're turning them into dumb dial shifts or rotary shifters. I don't know why, but hey why the hell not?

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>>17577300
my old truck still does. though i think you're talking about an automatic.

>>17578051
Maybe they'll bring back the pushbuttons that were all the rage in the 60s.

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Mercs still do use them.

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>>17578281
So fucking C O M F Y

My grandmother drove my car the other day and tried to put it in drive with the windshield wiper controls.

>>17578429
Did she snap it off?

>>17578429
I do this constantly whenever I visit my dad. He owns a newer minivan with one of those dash-mounted shifters, the car I'm used to has a column shifter, every time I get in the van the first thing I do is accidentally turn on the wipers.

>>17578281
>>17578351
Nigga those are the windshield wiper stocks.

>>17578487
Then where's the shifter?

>>17578259
I saw pushbuttons shifts in some Lincolns during my visit at the autoshow.

>>17578487
Nah, I think they moved those over to the turn signals. You have to twist it to turn it on. My shitty Benz had that.

>>17577300
Most autotragics are electronically controlled these days. Don't need a cable to select the operating mode on some trannies, so they got rid of it. And no cable needed, no lever needed. Get rid of that too.

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>>17578643
Still inferior to the volume knob shifter.

>>17578687
>>17577805

>>17577583
/bigguy/

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>>17577661
So what's this?

>>17578667
Newer Mercs have rain sensing wipers so you never really touch the switch

>>17578766
Is that basically a straight line shifter on the side of your steering column? I'm guessing you need to hold down the button to move it?

>>17578795
Push up to go into reverse
Push down to go into drive
Push the silver button to park
Nudge it half way in either direction to put the car into neutral

>>17578808
What a strange system.

>>17578766
>yfw Tesla uses Mercedes shifter stalk

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>>17578879
forgot pic

>>17578887
What is that pulse looking chart behind the wheel?

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My old falcon was a three speed manual with column shift.

pros:
>can fit three people comfortably in a single cab ute

cons:
>busted ass linkage kills all the shift feel
>these were known as the 'windscreen puncher' because people frequently fucked it up going for 2nd gear

You could probably have a nice 5 speed setup now that engineers can transmit a bit of feel through modern bowden cables. It's certainly better than a floor shifter in a 3 seater ute.

>>17578858
It seems strange, but you get used to it so fast. There have been several times where I tried changing gears on other cars and just ended up turning on the wipers

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>>17578930
who's gonna sit in that center seat???

>>17578938
ur mum