ITT : Features that should be standard on all cars.

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>Not just slamming your drink behind the rear passenger seat so it can warm up but definitely not come loose during driving.

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Fuck it, I'll risk the flame war.

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Anyone else think parking brake levers are gay as fuck?

It feels like yanking a rock hard dick up in the air every time you want to park up. Buttons are superior.

>>17557228
Can't put my finger on it, but this image bothers me a little.

I think a roll cage should be standard to reinforce the roof. Hopefully that way they can make cars with smaller pillars and decrease blind spots

>>17557286
I'm used to reverse being to the left of first, so seeing a smaller shift pattern with reverse where 6th is on my car bothers me

>>17557299
Discount alien shifter is bothersome

anti glare mirrors are a godsend

>>17557258
That's just a chode though

>>17557258
>Stop on an uphill
>Try to engage handbrake
>seat heating comes on
>try again, doors lock
>finally engaged it
>see gap in traffic, go for it
>can't find button again, miss the gap

>>17557258
Guaranteed Replies

>>17557354

People actually need their handbrake to take off on a hill? lmao

>>17557365
>he uses the clutch to hold himself on a hill

Enjoy replacing it every 10,000 miles

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>>17557228
>>17557286

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Every 4 door with Sedan styling should open up like this in the back.

>just get a hatchback

No. They are ugly cuck mobiles. I want a car that looks like a traditional Sedan but opens up fully for easier storage.

Honda should have done with this with '18 Accord.

>>17557381

So you think I sit there clutching it instead of having my foot on the brake? Thats a pretty retarded thing to think

>>17557258
We should really make everything electronic controlledby this point. Parking brakes, service brakes, throttle, windows, ignition, steering, transmission, engine, everything is electronic at this point. There's really zero contract between the driver and anything in the car now

>>17557414
I want to see you taking off on a hill in a car with no torque at low rpm's while stacy stopped 5cm behind you

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Skoda stole that from RR, but seriously this should be standard.

>>17557258
>want to impress the gyaldem
>can't properly drift bcuz 1.2 Corsa with VXR badges
>go screaming round corner, press handbrake button
>car comes to a screeching halt
Yeah nah, fuck your electronic cuckbrake

>>17557365
>is stopped
>isn't in neutral with handbrake on
*fails driving test*

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>>17557228

>>17557354

Cars like this probably have hill assist..

>>17557354
dude... why don't you just use the brakes?

>>17557708
Because you're supposed to have the handbrake on. It's a safety thing as well, if some mong rear-ends you you stay put instead of slamming into the car in front

>>17557708
Read >>17557492

>>17557492
Pretty easy to do actually for anyone who has decent coordination of clutch & throttle... or there's easy mode where you let Stacy keep you from rolling back more than 5 cm.

>>17557713
>Because you're supposed to have the handbrake on
You must be british, I hear they teach yall to do that at driving school and during your exam.

>Hatchbacks with removable rear seats.
Don't have more than one passenger? No need to lug around 200-300lbs of extra weight. Better acceleration, better fuel economy, and more cargo room.

>mudguards
>window ventshade things so you can have fresh air when it's raining

>>17557681
Which sucks, if you're in the inside of a turn and you can't see shit unless you creep forward a bit you have to keep pressing the button again at the right moment, timing that is easier with a handbrake you can slip a little

>>17557492
>>17557492
That is called a hill start, you learn that at any driving school in Europe, if your clutch isn't fucked you'll be able to do it no handbrake required.

That would be Stacy's fault anyway, proper safety distances, she didn't maintain.

>>17557492
I have yet to drive a car that can't keep itself from falling backwards by slipping the clutch at idle the short lapse of time you employ changing the right foot from the brake to the accelerator.

>>17557754
>>17557492
I totally get his point, that is a fear I have to, but fuck me I just got my license last month and don't have a car to drive daily, so yeah I get it. But if you been driving for a while, everyday..I really don't get why you're having that problem, get an automatic, they're comfier if you're in the city anyway.

>>17557743
You'll fuck your clutch like that, not everyone has big enough feet to hill toe the gas pedal or the skill to switch from the brake to the gas pedal quickly. /o/tists can, but not the asian granny in front of you. And if you're european you should know it will be your fault if she's standing still. Road cars should be made so that even unskilled drivers can drive them properly.

>>17557731
Yep. In pretty much every country where people mostly drive manuals you're taught that way
>>17557743
You can do it without the handbrake obviously, but why would you hold yourself on the footbrake at a stop? It's more effort and presents more of a safety hazard.

>>17557754
Nice wearing your clutch unnecessarily. Have you ever tried it with a heavy load or trailer. If you want to do it without handbrake, either heel toe the gas or press the accelerator before the car can gain any momentum.

>seppos unironically think you should heel toe or have to jump between the brake and accelerator just to do a hill start
kek

>>17557773
>Yep. In pretty much every country where people mostly drive manuals you're taught that way

I got mine this year, they didn't teach me that way, in fact the instructor took me to a steep ass hill to teach me hill start, and the examiner also took me to a steep ass hill and made me stop and start it again.
>but why would you hold yourself on the footbrake at a stop? It's more effort and presents more of a safety hazard.

You could argue it presents a safety hazard to use the handbrake as a crutch also, which is better depends on the person you ask. I was taught one way so your way looks dangerous to me because, what if I lose control of the car when I release the handbrake, but then again like I said above, I'm a new driver and don't have the car to drive daily and train this shit.

>what if I lose control of the car when I release the handbrake
If you can't keep the car under control with one hand on the steering wheel, you shouldn't be allowed to drive a manual. Plus your hand is already on the handbrake, just pull it again if you fuck up, a lot less movement than braking with your foot in this case.

>>17557258
no fuck you brake vapor will kill me without it. I need to be able to control the emergency brake.

>>17557397
for most modern compacts then I agree. could make it less difficult to put things in when rear seats are down.

>>17557811
>again like I said above, I'm a new driver and don't have the car to drive daily and train this shit

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>>17557768
>i just got my license last month
>im gonna tell you what car to drive

>>17557832
>using handbrake at the red light with stacy 5cm from your bumper

>>17557049
Cupholder delete
Touchscreen delete
Electric steering delete
Hydraulic steering
4 zone climate control
Gated shifter

>>17557773
>It's more effort and presents more of a safety hazard.
It's really not. Only britfags seem to think this, it must be part of their driving training. It takes less than a second to switch your brake foot to your clutch foot and apply the throttle, and you might roll back a few inches but anybody that's not kissing your bumper like a moron isn't in any danger. It's easier and makes more sense to keep the speed controls with the feet and leave the steering and shifting to the hands.

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>>17557842
i'm not the guy who said that, but i honestly dont know why theres so many people that think using the handbrake on hills makes you a bitch
its easier and its better for the car, name one disadvantage

>>17557855
IDK hydro electric would be better than straight hydro. I'm saying this as someone with hydraulic steering.

>>17557049
>manual transmission
>6 gear + overdrive
>VVT/VVL
>forged internals
>DOHC
>variable length intake runners
>individual throttle bodies
>5 digit redline
>torsen differential
>FR/MR/RR drivetrain
>50/50 weight distribution
>sup 800kg weight
>doubble whishbone suspension
>bucket seats
>funktional aero
>bucket seats
>windshield

>>17557827
Nor did I when I just got my license, but controlling your car with one hand and being confident in that is the first thing you should practise when given the chance, even when you're in an automatic

>>17557620
>have to step outside in order to extract it
>open/close door too fast the umbrella shoots out
>water collects in the door when inserting wet umbrella
>

>>17557768
how old are you?

>>17557864
>hat, but i honestly dont know why theres so many people that think using the handbrake on hills makes you a bitch

no one is saying it makes him a bitch, it just takes you out of controlling the car, any extra steps means there's more there to fuck up. why would you want to make it more complicated than it has to be?

like i said, whether its more dangerous or not, that depends on the driver

>>17557049
nothing's as great as having your soda heated up

>>17557784
>what are small engines

>>17557492
My car has 93 Nm and I live in a city full of hills.
I don´t torture my clutch.

>>17557890
how does using an additional way to control your car give you less control of the car

>>17557890
Actually it increases control, as you can release the brake as the clutch engages

>>17557875
>Mr standard
I'll pass. rr standard can become a thing again though for economy. I don't have a problem with ff as long as it's light. also I'd rather cruise control over over drive.

>>17557890
More steps, but simpler, the only thing you have to time right is releasing the clutch and handbrake. Otherwise you have to time moving your foot and giving the right amount of gas with releasing the clutch

>>17557879
>have to step outside in order to extract it
true
>open/close door too fast the umbrella shoots out
never happened, it's seated not just put there, you need to actually push it like a button to release it
>water collects in the door when inserting wet umbrella
There are drainage canals that drain the water outside.

Watch this
It's hillariously retarded because it's skoda india
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eplEBb4m5E

>>17557905
Nor do I, slight uphills in an unloaded car is easy and can be done with just slipping the clutch, but try it on a dirt mountainroad while pulling a trailer. The smell will be delightfull and you'll more likely spin out your rwd or fwd

>>17557926
The overdrive is to get the revs down while cruisng on a highway, since alway hanging at high rpm isn´t silent or efficient.
cruise controll just keeps your speed constant.

>>17557947
If you slip your clutch on every uphill, you´ll need to replace it verry soon...

>>17557875
spoken like a true child

>>17557937
>I don't want the carpet to stink

How would the carpet begin to stink by putting a wet umbrella on it?

You would have to expose yourself to the rain in other to get to the car to fetch the umbrella that would be in the passenger's rear door of the opposite side of the driver's side. genius

>>17557963
As I said, that's why I prefer the handbrake for any actual hill, I meant slipping the clutch as in with a normal take off, not riding it all the way

>>17557994
I just use the normal brake and release the clutch fast enough.

>>17557947
>>17557994

Explain that to me, because... you're using the clutch to take off regardless of your foot being on the brakes or having the handbrake engaged, either way your clutch is going to be used, how are you going to wear it out quicker if you're using it regardless???

>>17557992
>How would the carpet begin to stink by putting a wet umbrella on it?
dunno, maybe that's a testament to water quality in india

>You would have to expose yourself to the rain in other to get to the car to fetch the umbrella that would be in the passenger's rear door of the opposite side of the driver's side. genius
That's only a problem in right sided countries, still I dunno why they did not put it in drivers door. Prolly just trying to push it as a limo, so the umbrella is for the executive that decided to buy suberb instead of an S class, if they exist

>>17558014
Because you can give gas in advance, thus a accerating faster and reaching the minimum speed for 1st gear much quicker. You do put more force through the clutch but for less time, so much that the total distance driven while slipping the clutch is shorter

>>17558041
Supposed you have two equal cars, one driven with the handbrake on hill and another without, when you get to 150000km or shortly after you'll install a clutch kit on both of them.

>>17558059
>150.000km
Then you suck at clutching anyway, I've had my volvo since 400.000km, clutch was replaced by the previous owner. Now it's at 750.000km with the same clutch.

>>17558080
>Then you suck at clutching
Like the majority of the population, gee wouldn't you know. I'll admit im not great at it, but few people are.

>>17558080
>>17558117
A major factor is how much you drive in the city.
If you just drive on highways, chances are that your clutch will live longer than your engine since you almost never use it.
If you only drive in the city, your clutch won´t see 200.000km even if you drive carefully.

>>17558138
I work in the same city Iive in during the week, 9km every work day during rush hour. Only in the weekend I drive 200km to my actual home

>>17558138
>If you only drive in the city, your clutch won´t see 200.000km even if you drive carefully.
Yeah, major city here, lots of hills, why the fuck they put red lights at hills, it's like they're asking for it. This is why I want an automatic.

>>17557228
>pick up that can
>huhuhe

>>17558171
can't unsee

>>17557732
What car are you driving where the rear seats are 300lbs dude

modern cars with their shit tier visibility should have backup cameras standard.

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>>17558205
Now they do. Soon cars are going to be like those concepts for new airliners. There aren't any windows, but the entire outside is projected through cameras so you have a completely unobstructed view with maximum rigidity.

Pic related

>>17558213
That is ridiculously expensive and will fail at some point.
Also you won´t be able to repai it.

>>17558218
>That is ridiculously expensive
Right now it is, because it's a concept. With enough supply almost everything becomes affordable.
>and will fail at some point
Everything fails at some point
>Also you won't be able to reai it
Nope

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>>17557397
>C-pillar that goes almost all the way back to the taillights
>anything even close to a traditional sedan
The traditional sedan died in 2011.

>>17558213
knowing of the maximum rigidity will for sure relax people as they're plunging rapidly towards the ground being able to see it with the unobstructed view

>>17557937
>you need to actually push it like a button to release it

another thing to break

>>17558232
I miss the panther platform
Hands-down the most fun you can have in an automatic

>>17558227
It will always be more expensive than windows and add another critical element to fail to the system.
Repairing it would be only possible when buying it as a spare part.

>>17557779
I have, in fact, done it with 2500 kg in a a trailer.
125k miles, still with the first clutch.

>>17558197
PT Cruiser. Rear seats and hardware weighs 268 lbs total. Luckily it's all quick-release so I never have it in there.

>>17557397
It's called a liftback you dense fuck

>>17559539
>PT Cruiser
but ... why?

You own one so I assume you know how it looks

>>17557832
You're a long way from /b/, froposter. Get lost.

>>17557862
It's a safety hazard if someone rear ends you and you don't have the handbrake on, you'll shoot forward into the car in front. This isn't just about hills, if you're stopped for more than a few seconds you should have your handbrake on and be in neutral.

>>17558213
C.O.F.F.I.N. cars when

>>17557049
I cannot remember the make or model but the car had rear interior lights with an internal battery. You could unclip them from the holders and use them as torches. Fucking lifesaver.

>>17557258
i can't imagine how shit learning to drive would be with a button handbrake. fine now that i've been driving nearly a year, but that sounds like hell

>>17558247
its probably a £10 spring or something. calm your tits. not everything has to be archaic.

>>17557658
that's not a thing. on a hill sure but not in general.

>>17557787
usually moving off without the handbrake is something you learn yourself. i'm surprised you weren't taught with the handbrake. sounds like a good way to go through a clutch teaching someone like that.

>>17558023
its a weird thing to sell a luxury model under your least luxury brand.

>>17559554
I inherited it. I will say that the looks have grown on me, I happen to think it's kinda cute in a pug-like way; so ugly that it's adorable.

>using the handbrake for anything other than parking
On a hill, use the foot brake while giving it gas with the same foot

>>17560490
Well I know that can happen.
My buddy swore by his heart on his Multipla.

>>17557228
Wassup fellow echofag

All cars should lock the doors while in drive because if you've ever had a stranger try and open it you know

>>17559542
>search "liftback cars"
>a bunch of hatchbacks come up
>hatchback - wikipedia
ebin

>>17560215
>if you're stopped for more than a few seconds you should have your handbrake on and be in neutral.

jesus christ dude

>>17560490
PT Cruisers are the true american twingo.

Underrated and destroyed by careless owners, because chrysler.

>>17561041
the car that picture is from(twingo) locks its doors when you're driving.

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>>17560215

Are you fuckin retarded nigga? If you're at a stop light you'll be doing one of two things:

1.) Stopped in neutral, with clutch left alone. Brake pedal depressed, to keep car stationary.

2.) Brake pedal depressed, as well as clutch pedal depressed. Car can be in gear. Good for quick stops, like stop signs.

You don't EVER put your handbrake on unless you're shutting off the vehicle you stupid nigger - it's an emergency brake and only clamps down on one wheel. In a lot of cases, it isn't even your full brake - it's a secondary drum brake on the inside of the hub. It has nowhere near the same power as 2-4 disc brakes.

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>>17561114

>underrated

More like underpowered and unreliable. They were fucking trash from the factory, made worse by the human trash who bought them.

Just remember - for every PT Cruiser you see out there, some FAGGOT bought that car NEW from a dealer and paid an outrageous mark-up, PDI, freight, and taxes.

For a PT Cruiser.

Absolutely disgusting.

>>17561144
>More like underpowered and unreliable. They were fucking trash from the factory, made worse by the human trash who bought them.

Like I said. the true american twingo.

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>>17560236
My dear nigger.

>>17557286
Maybe because if you flip it upside down it looks like a dick with two nuts

>>17560215
This is wrong and you are fucked

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THIS!
Blind spot mirror
Every car should have it
Not that stupid electronic beeper

can someone explain to me what the rhubarb about manuals and hills is? In my autotragic, I just hold the brake, then release it and press on the accelerator.

t. never driven a manual

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heading and speed autopilot controls

>>17562195
I love driving by instruments on the highway. You can never trust what you see through your windshield.

>>17562169
Holy fucking useful federal safety laws. I got an idea, why dont we make a mandate that all vehicles should be inherently designed without blind spots. Such a feat is achievable using technology from the fucking stone age.

>>17562178
if you don't lift off the clutch and accelerate at just the right time you will roll backwards and crash into the automatic-driving fuckwit behind you who has pulled up mere inches from your bumper.

>>17558232
Proud to own a Panther because they're the last (and boy did they last a shockingly long time) example of the big American steel boat

>>17557085
Why not just put it in the airconditioned glove box?

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>>17557887
sigh.... too old. midlife actually. still nervous everytime i get in a fucking car, but starting from zero getting a new job next week, will soon have the money for my very own shitbox. I'm thinking about a 90s micra or a 90s peugeot 208, been seeing some 90s colts as well. oh oh there is this corolla for 800 it looks awesome, but i really want one with a adjustable steering wheel because i want to be comfy as fuck driving so who knows wtf im gonna do.

>>17557957
my problem is over drive makes passing difficult in underpowered cars plus it doesn't always save that much on gas.

>>17557049
this shit actually sucks desu, if it winter and you have a cold drink it will be fucking warm and disgusting in like 1 minute

>>17557258
jokes on you, i'm an expert on rubber/ plastic sticks

>>17557769
>Want even more retarded people onto the road.
You as an American should understand that like no one else since you're live in a can't drive union of states.

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>>17563855
what

>>17558167
Here it's an unwritten rule that people from down hill have a way of go and people coming from uphill have to wait for those from below to minimize wear and tear, unnecessary fuel consumption, pollution etc.
Best of all, it works here.
Though in USA, you'd probably have to wait 60-70 years to kill of the retards with the current driving mentality for that to work since you rather drive your speed and crash into people that enter your lane instead of letting of the throttle 10 seconds earlier, if you actually planned ahead and estimated the outcome.

>>17563867
Want me to make it into a food analogy so you understand?

People that can't cook should be allowed to work for 5 star diners.

>>17563872
Are you retarded or english is your second language? I can't understand shit of what you wrote.

>>17563893
Then you should probably retake your grade school English if you can't interact with people in written form.

>>17561131
>only clamps down on one wheel
I'm pretty sure this is totally dependent on car. On my car the handbrake is connected to both rear wheels.
>drum brakes
lel

>>17561131
>Car rear ends you while you hold brake pedal
>You get pushed back into your seat thus your feet depressed the brake pedal as your body moves back into the seat.
>Your car now rolls unhindered into the car in front.

Grats you just proved you know nothing about traffic.
Either you're an americunt or you still ride the bus.

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>>17557049

>>17557354
>he needs a parking brake to start on a hill

>>17563992
Yes, purple coolant should be standard.
The rest in that image is not wanted.

>>17564012
>he doesn't want a supercharger

Why are you even here, anon?

>>17564022
Because I like having more power, while consuming less fuel.

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If they're going to have an auto-transmission then do away with the giant shifter and just give me a knob like everything else in the car.

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>>17560236
there's a long way, remember that cars still use 12V electrical system which is 60 years old, likewise cars still use brushed motors for starters (which have shit power to weight ratio)

>>17558213
Hit some severe turbulence, electrical system goes out, your are now and a dark tube of death.

>>17557258
>Driving my moms car.
>button parking brake.
>gf accidentally bumps button while I'm going 40mph.
>car immediately stops while making ding noises.
>couldn't release the parking brake until I came to a complete stop, pressed the brakes, and then the parking button.
>luckily no one rear ended me.

That's my story.

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>>17557258
>>17566076

>>17566098
Fukken saved. That is the dumbest feature ever

>>17561124
That photo was from my Echo. I took that photo.
>>17561041
FORMER Echofag.
It was too good for this world. RIP Toyota Echo 2003-2016 forever in my heart.

I've got its badge hanging on my Civ's rear mirror, and I'm gonna install the Echo shift knob.

>>17564119
>just give me a knob like everything else in the car.
like you?

>>17566076
dont you have to press the break pedal when you use the button?
thats how it works in my car

>>17557049
How about nothing. Let the car manufacturers choose what they want to include. My car has manual windows, manual locks, manual transmission, no tilt wheel, no cup holders, no airbags, no "electronic stability control" or "crash detection" or "lane departure warning" or "blind spot monitoring system" and that's just the way I like it. You faggots ask for so many required standard features that you might as well not even drive the car. I guess that's what the bus life does to ya.

>>17562169
>>17562394
What's the point of having cars without any blind spots when most drivers don't even do the most basic checks ?
Anyway I prefer turning my head, it works well and I'm used to it.

Ecoboost

>>17564119
Column shifters should be standard with automatics. Replace the front seats with a bench too, since the shifter is gone and nobody drives an auto for fun anyway. It should be comfortable and roomy.

I really wish cars were implemented with a system to let you know what has failed or needs replacing, like let's say your tie rod needs to be replaced, or your rotors, etc. I know we technically have one in our cars, but it's limited and the rest we have to figure out what the fuck the noise is coming from and shit. That's be super fucking helpful, like a little thing on the dash that pops up a number i.e "code 342" and you look it up, oh your window motor is weak, replace soon" or something of the like. Again, I know our cars have this but I mean like a wicked detailed system to let us know EXACTLY what has failed and needs replacing.

>>17563728
Downshift to pass you knob
Even automatics do that

>>17563925
He's making fun of your terrible grammar and phrasing. English can seriously be your first language.

>>17558197
I like to store my weights on top of my seats>>17558213

>>17564385
And having windows will change anything? You're still going to die.

>>17566554
No shit.
But when he acts like a retard he'll be treated like such.

>>17566599
Sounds like you're the one who acted retarded and got all butthurt about it after getting called out.

>>17566627
>Sounds like
Stop projecting, and deal with it.

>>17566634
It looks and smells like you're the retard too

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>>17566661
Nice retort, 7 minutes of crying and that's all you got?

>>17566672
I reply when I feel like it. My ego doesn't hinge on replying to anonymous people from the first world. I'm mostly doing this for my amusement.

>>17566709
So you're an attention-seeking masochist?
Got it.

Good luck with that.

>>17566714
I feed on the replies of angry Europeans, yes. Is there anything else I already know that you're going to tell me, or are you done giving me what I want, because I'd much rather keep reading your butthurt replies.

Laughable insecurity above.
Don't reply.

>>17566740
This post reeks of irony.

Reply or don't reply.

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>>17557049
a twingo

>>17566783
modern or og 1st gen

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>>17566519
Diagnosing is half the fun.

>>17557397
muh rigidity

>>17557731
>They only teach you to drive properly in Britain
You must be a burger.

>>17557862
>Wants to go forward
>Tolerates going backward
You're not in full control of the car.

>>17557890
>Fuck up without using the handbrake
>Car moves in some undesirable way

>Fuck up using the handbrake
>Car is stopped
One is more dangerous than the other

>>17557903
One more reason to make use of the extra control which the handbrake affords you.

>>17558213
They make you open your windows for take off and landing for safety reasons. There's no way a windowless airliner would be approved.

>>17561131
>You don't EVER put your handbrake on unless you're shutting off the vehicle
Incorrect: I use it almost every time I come to a stop.

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>>17566959
>oh no people in a different part of the world drive differently than me

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>>17557397

Yes, the Dodge Shadow was truly great.

>>17557049
Electric water pumps that let you circulate coolant with the engine off. At least offer it as a cold weather package.

>>17561041
Fucking this, every single time I get in my car I always make sure to lock the doors, even the driver side door, just in case someone tries to get in m my car or if the doors malfunction or something and somehow open by themselves.

>>17566519
yeah just go ahead and add literally 2000 more sensors to the car and add $15000 to the base msrp only for 3/4 of them to break long before the actual part does.

>>17557228
cup holders

sourced a dodge neon center console for my geo to get cup holders.

>>17567203
http://www.fivestarmanufacturing.com/kat_s
ctrl+f Circulating Tank Heater

internal boomerang roof mounts

>>17557492
>tfw you realise /o/ fags dont actually know how to drive

>>17558213
lmao imagine someone with fear of flying sitting in one of these

>>17564119
going into reverse in that car for a multiple-point maneuvre looks stressful as fuck.

>>17564022
I don't want heat soak.

>>17566076
>electronic parking break still works at high speed
sounds like a shit car tbqh

>>17563983
>I've never been rear ended
sorry but that's just not what happens at all