>2017 >not seizing the opportunity to drive a L-head before

Is America outlawing things again?

>>17544812
>muh environment
>muh chillins
>muh emmishons

>>17544801
>unironically clinging to obsolete technology because lul guise it's not illegal yet

>>17544859
Forgot to say, obsolete and objectively inferior

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>>17544859
>>17544862
You sound just like a teslafag. You'll probably cheer when the "obsolete and objectively inferior" practice of driving is outlawed. >>>/n/

>teslacucks on twitter literally defending this

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>>17544859
>>17544862
>stop preserving historic artifacts, they're like so outdated you guise, I mean come oooon, it's 2017!
Flatheads haven't been installed in new production vehicles for over 50 years now, and retroactively banning historic items is just absolutely retarded.

>>17544893

>Muh minimalism

What a hideous interior

Exactly that the kind of buyer that treats a car as an appliance would expect. Disgusting.

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>>17544901
>stop preserving historic artifacts
nice strawman, I was just criticizing the idea of driving them instead of a current car
>and retroactively banning historic items
pretty sure you're banned from driving them if not to a show :^)
>>17544893
maybe I will, once self-driving vehicles become better drivers than ourselves. And Teslas and other EVs haven't made ICE cars obsolete yet. Lithium based cars are likely to become obsolete before the combustion engine is.
>tfw no mr fusion under the hood of my car

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>>17544918
could be worse tbqh

>>17544938
>I was just criticizing the idea of driving them instead of a current car
Nobody daily drives a flathead.

>>17544956
OP seemed to advocate doing so

>>17544956
also enjoy your 21 MPG

>>17544956
>No pleb daily drives a flathead.
FTFY
>>17544974
>implying that's bad
>>17544940
>that little blue chub
top kek

>>17545007
>>implying that's bad
the average modern shitbox gets better economy with more comfort and performance

>>17544812
>>17544851
>california = america

stop posting

>>17545136
>reddit spacing
>implying it's a california only issue

F you. I prefer F heads.

>>17545202
Literally only redditors fall for the reddit spacing meme, kys

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>>17545449
>t. redditor

>>17545468
>posting an anime pic in an attempt to fit in with le quirky anime forum xd!
>t. redditor

>>17544940
would be acceptable if it wasn't for that god awful tacky plastic

>>17544938
>pretty sure you're banned from driving them if not to a show :^)
Only if they have vintage/Historical plates, at least where I live. Get normal plates instead and you can daily drive your T-bucket or '37 Cord or Olds Curved Dash all fucking day if you want.

>>17545507
Why do people get those plates? Can you get normal plates after you already have the historical ones? Does it have to pass modern emission standards?

>>17545479
>le try hard reddit policeman
time to go back

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>>17545479
>being this butthurt
>projecting

>>17545514
Insurance purposes, usually. Cheaper to insure if you legally can only drive it X miles a year and only to/from car shows, and often a requirement for the specific types of insurance people put on irreplaceable classic cars.

>>17544893
Why are teslafags pro immigration while they believe the robots will take all the jobs in 5 years time?

>>17545594
Because they believe everything they are told

>>17545620
pretty much

>wanting to drive old shitty tech

lol

cant wait for ICE in general to be banned from the roads alongside with outdated manual input required cars

>banning
You can't back vehicles that already existence as road legal in America. It's called grandfathering

>>17546576
except you can easily ban vehicles that produce emissions from public roads

>>17546614
If you built a k code 1966 mustang today, you legally couldn't sell it to the public for road legal use. It doesn't conform to current legislation.

Yet you can sell register them for road use in America. See my point?

>>17546614
Except you still can't. They're still grandfathered

>>17546645
>>17546644
not when you ban them from the roads you dumb fucks

already been done in Paris where every car older than 1997 is illegal to be on the streets during the weekdays

nothing to do with new cars holy shit

>>17546666
Well America isnt as cucked.

>>17546666
Paris isn't America. There's a benefit to certain freedoms, and it could easily be beaten in us courts. It's the same reason I can buy a M16a3 from a private party and own it legally even though it's illegal to purchase brand new

>>17546674
yeah

here your car that is newer than 1992 and the gubmit doesnt like it will just be taken from you and destroyed

muh freedumbs

>>17546682
you are retarded

grandfather law is irrelevant in this discussion

>>17546666
>yurop
kek

>>17546701
>here your car that is newer than 1992 and the gubmit doesnt like it will just be taken from you and destroyed
We have this thing called the 4th amendment in America. It means that I'm protected from searches and seizures of my person, papers and effects unless I've gone through due process of law.

>grandfather law is irrelevant in this discussion
It's completely relevant to this discussion. It's there reason your argument doesn't stand.

>>17546712
nope

you are just stupid as hell

not surprising since thats been youre long standing tradition

somehow if you ban something it cant be banned because you said so

somehow search warrants dont exist either

>>17546725
>somehow search warrants dont exist either
Search warrants are due process of the law you dingus.

And for banning that technology, it's not banned. You could make an L head car today, which is the topic of this thread, but it would have to meet modern standards.

You are arguing that you wouldn't be legal, it would be. No one is stopping you, it just needs to meet current legislation.

And to go further towards the main argument of this thread, you can drive previously manufactured vehicles with Flathead engines. My buddy has a 39 Ford with a Flathead and he drives it daily

>>17546797
Im arguing that you can ban whatever you want to

if the government decided to ban the sale of ICE and only allow self driving electric cars on the road then yeah it would be illegal

goddamn

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>>17546797
>kit kat kuck's buddy has seized the opportunity
based

>>17544801
Wrong board, frogposter, /b/ is to the left of here.

I daily drive a 1966 Imperial; drum brakes, points, and all. My fuel economy is between 12 and 16 MPG, but that's minimal in comparison to the fact that I love what I drive and that it serves every function I need.

>>17546666
that's gay, but i expect nothing less from france

>>17544801
I found a fucking stash of 40s coupes with flathead 6s, should i try and cop?

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>>17547101
>t. hillary


>captcha
based pusy poster captcha

>>17547102
>not LS swapping that bitch

>>17547101
wrong site normalfag, faceberg is down the hall and to the left

>>17547297
Why would I downgrade from a 440 big block?

>>17547340
>downgrade

>>17546812
Your point is true, but that's a different argument than what was originally discussed

>>17547354
An ls is a downgrade from a big block Mopar.

>>17547340
Because a 60s 440 big block is a piece of shit.

>>17547398
>An ls is a downgrade from a big block Mopar.
but it isn't
an LS isn't simply a SBC
it will deliver better performance, better economy and weigh less

>>17547340
>more power
>less weight
>more efficient

Im not even a fan of the LS but its not a downgrade

>>17547408
you're either an idiot ricer or a gm fag

>>17547425
>>17547461
samefag

>>17547461
for fucks sake, if you''re going a modern engine route with a classic at least get a brand correct engine, 5.7 liter hemis are available at virtually every pick a part or junkyard, and will keep a mopar a mopar as well as be as good as if not better than an LS

>>17547496
or you could get a 600+hp all aluminum crate engine and not have a piece of shit in your car

>>17547511
You can do the same thing for a hemi. The benefit is that everything bolts up.

Either way, there's no replacement for displacement. At that price to swap, you can just put aluminum heads on the 440 with a modern cam and btfo both motors

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>>17547297

>>17547524
lol an aluminium Hemi block is more than a complete LS engine

and no youre not getting 300 more hp from a 440 with just heads and a cam

plus it will still be a front heavy pig

big blocks are garbage

>>17547524
>The benefit is that everything bolts up.
Is there really so much backwards compatibility?
>Either way, there's no replacement for displacement. At that price to swap, you can just put aluminum heads on the 440 with a modern cam and btfo both motors
pretty sure a modern 426 HEMI will be better than the big block 440

>>17547461
Factory was 350 HP; I can tweak it a bit for more power and will do so when I rebuild it.

Why would I want to sacrifice originality when I have plenty of power? Plus, a competent transmission. If I were to swap in an LS motor, I'd also have to change over the trans as wrll.

>>17547541
His big block currently is about 9.5-10:1 compression. Some modern big flow heads, with an aggressive cam and the assorted valve train would easily get you to over 500, yet would also produce a mountain of low end torque.

You don't want to rev the motor up to get going on a 5400lb vehicle, you'd get smoked off the line by pretty much anything.

>>17547541
>talking about weight in a fuckhuge cruiser that weighs over 2 tons and is big enough to carry an emergency smart car in the trunk next to the spare tire

>>17547559
Yeah I'm fairly certain Mopar transmissions are all the same bell housing pattern. Pretty neat when consider that a modern hemi swap is easy.

Fucking sucks as a ford guy. I can name 5 different patterns off the top of my head.

>>17547559
>426 HEMI
>not a Viper V10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jSR-QFq7yQ

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>>17547565
more like 270-ish hp I bet

>orginality

how many LS swapped Imperials have you seen?

making things good takes effort just because it requires more work doesnt make it a downgrade

>>17547578
yeah you really need to rev it huh

and yeah nah on those power numbers too

>>17547581
less weight would improve the car in every way

>>17547607
>Peak torque at 4200rpm
That's pretty high in the rev range

Also don't you have a truck of peace to be dodging? Consider doing some research before talking about American engines

https://www.google.com/amp/www.hotrod.com/articles/how-you-can-build-a-stout-537hp-street-440/amp/

>>17547614
>That's pretty high in the rev range
way to miss his point, that torque curve is almost flat

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>>17547606
>wanting the world's worst sounding V10 in your car
They actually went out of their way to imitate the V8 burble with the Dodge V10 through uneven firing intervals, and all they've accomplished is making it sound catastrophically broken.

>>17547614
the engine you posted makes peak torque and power at a higher rpm (and less of it)

and my point is that its pretty damn flat from beginning to end

and yeah sure once you rebuild the entire thing you can make 500hp

>>17547472
>less than 50hp/liter

>>17547630
nothing wrong with the sound of a viper senpaitachi

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>>17547297
>t. dogfucker

>>17544893
>yuppies actually pay 60k for this

>>17546666
They have a fuckload of diesels in France, they're trying to prevent the city slickers from getting lung cancer just from breathing.

>>17544940
this literally worsened my depression to look at

>>17546546
ill do a V8 burnout on your grave techfag

>>17545514
In my state if you have a plate matching the year your car was manufactured, you never have to renew the registration EVER AGAIN!

Only catch? You can only legally drive the vehicle to/from a car show and in parades. It's a difficult choice. You can also go for a historical plate... same restrictions but you have to renew it every 10 years. Not worth that IMO

>>17544940
I literally can't wait to fucking die

>>17549956
>yuppies
You mean millennials anon, millennials

>>17550075
>In my state if you have a plate matching the year your car was manufactured, you never have to renew the registration EVER AGAIN!
How does that work? You need an old plate that was on any car?

>>17550003
>>17550105
Kek

>>17544801
But I have. Not as impressive as you would think though. Sounds good though.

>>17550463
>But I have.
then you're not a cuck I guess

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>>17544801
L heads becoming illegal? Must have missed that.

>>17545418
I got it, but I don't think anyone else did.

Called about insuring the old jeep with hagerty, but there are too many restrictions, probably just go with regular insurance.

>>17550253
>millenials
>affording a $60k luxury car
>affording any new production car
thanks to generations past, millenials have worse job prospects than their parents
it's retarded gen Xers that are buying Tesla's, not millenials

>>17547644
oh muh hp per liter, jesus christ go back to car throttle

>>17551322
The oldest millenials are 37 already anon

>>17550257
Correct.
Any plate from a car 25+ years old. They made year specific plates till 1984. After that you're good if the registration sticker matches the year the car was made.

>>17551979
So you have to find someone with spare plates from the year basically?

>>17547408
>t. underagefag

>>17550253
Yuppies exist today, they just don't work at Wall Street, they work as an "artist" and use daddy's money

>>17544972
Not at all. He just said to drive one before it's illegal. Learn2read.

>>17551097
Sexy got any more of the whole engine or head?

I've never even seen an F-head my engines teacher just showed us a few diagrams as part of apprentice training.

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>>17554242
Have a few, most are on a different machine though.

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>>17554242
And a further away shot. If there's any specific angle you want it's 5 ft away. That's a flathead, or an L head, with both intake amd exhaust valves in the block. An f head has the intake valves in the head. They're not very efficient, but it'll run on something like 68 octane gas.

>>17553005
I'm OP anon, I was samefagging. I made this thread as b8 and I meant DD but people took it seriously.

>>17554775
>They're not very efficient
isn't it supposed to give more power than the L head? That's what I read in wiki, but then again that's wiki.

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>>17554910
It does, I was referring to an L head (or i suppose an F head too) in comparison to anything modern, not an F being less efficient then an L. I can see the confusion, I should proofread.

>>17554975
oh I thought that could be a possibility but since I know jack about F heads I thought I'd be better off asking

>>17552023
Yep. That or ebay
I've been on and off looking for a plate for my project car for about 2 years now

Ah, but that's where you're wrong, kiddo. I've restored/driven Pierce-Arrows and Packards, great land yachts from an era where the peasantry knew their place. Power Nothing, slow as fuck...and yet, supremely satisfying to drive. Interiors like your crazy, rich old aunt's living rooms. Smooth as silk straight-eights, and craftsmanship that rivals fine art. My hunch is that as the greatest generation and the boomers die off, the market will be flooded, and you might be surprised what you can pick one up for. It's hard to believe that American marques ever gave so many fucks about quality and substance, but they did.

>>17546682
No you can't, the m16a3 was first introduced in 1994, which puts you after the closing of the machinegun registry in 1986, though you could legally buy an m16a2

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>>17559195
kit kat btfo
will he ever recover from this?

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>>17547101
does Pepe trigger you?

>>17544801
>before it becomes illegal

>>17561735
>implying it won't eventually
Some day gasoline itself will become illegal

>>17544801
>L-head
ultimate pleb, speaking as if a flathead was an unique experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7LLTzUMzUE

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>>17559272
he won't

>>17559195
>>17559272
>>17562914
>hurr durr muh technicalities
you can stop pretending there's a big difference between a m16a2 and an a3 at any moment

>>17544938
Stop posting those smileys it's cancer

>>17545202
STOP WITH THIS MEME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>17545468
Fuck off alphonse

>>17563128
This

>>17562661
What is it with Detroit Diesel shills on /o/ right now? The pieces of crap smoke like chimneys and sound perpetually broken.

>>17547630
>Objectively wrong

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>>17563164
I'm not him though

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>>17563591
>I'm not him though
>posts alphonse pic