Which is the best?

GENESIS

>>17542750
Porsche

>>17542750
they're all shit, but of those 3, mercedes

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Merc has the most fun options but is also the least reliable.

>>17542750
From Germany in General:
Too easy: Porsche, by a good margin.

If Luxury:
Merc, Audi and BMW are just wannabes. The S-class blows away anything by the other two.

Especially Audi, they're just VWs with a different badge. The German equivalent of Lincoln.

>>17542847
Which is too bead because pre90s Merc was known for their apocalypse proof built quality. Just look at all the 70s and 80's era Mercs that are still running in Africa.

>>17542750
Assuming we're talking about cars sold in the United States (no A-Class, A1, 1-Series, etc.)

Best sports cars: Porsche
Best luxury cars: Mercedes-Benz
Best sports sedans/coupes: BMW or Mercedes-AMG
Best interiors/highway cruisers: Audi

>ITT: busriders rate cars they've never even driven.

>>17542750
Mercedes>bmw>power gap>VAG

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The Ultimate Driving Machine of course

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>>17543259
This right here my nigga

>>17543259
>ultimate driving machine
>with wheels like 4 inches too large

>>17543382
hehe ur just mad u cant afford them ;))

>>17542823
spbp

Cadillac
Coor
Ald
Digger
Ihinks
Lts
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Aadillac
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>>17543382
18s too large on a M3 lmao ok

>>17543420
this

>>17542855
I'd rather have a Lincoln than an Audi desu

>>17542750
Qs someone who has actually owned all three I would recommend BMW for fun and Audi for comfort. Merc is in the middle. (if you compare like for like).
Most people in this thread are just spewing conjecture.

>>17543522
>poorfag BBS LMs

KEK

Official Rating:

Mercedes
BMW

....

Audi

>>17542750
Audi is cheapest to repair. Has the best interior design. Good 4wd, great all around car.
Merc for muh luxury, various tech features and comfyness.
BMW for sportyness, precise steering, superb iDrive system, doriftu.

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>>17543331
so im not the only /o/tist with a black e60

>>17544545
>showing your license plate

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>>17544551
so? there are like 3 people browsing 4chan from my country lmao.

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>>17544558
as for BMW/Benz/Audi:
I've owned all of them (my last car was a W211 and I work at a Merc dealership) and even though BMW interior designs may be lagging behind the sound insulation and ergonomics are still better than Merc or Audi in most cases.
BMW handling is superior to Audi and Benz but it compromises comfort a bit so if you are an old person a Mercedes would be best for you.
tldr If you care about driving pleasure get a BMW

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easy

We all know this comes down to
>BMW M Division
>AMG
>RS Quattro
And M takes my top spot since it still offers manual transmissions.

>>17544545
Nope, there's you me and probably 1 other guy

Cool rims by the way

>>17542789
Urinocally this

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Mercs are good luxury and retain their image as luxury brand.
Bmws often driven by idiots but actually good cars, compromise on performance/luxury, but a good compromise. Like honda with fwd.
Audi is just trash for trash people. Rich people sometimes drive them.
But 90% of audi drivers drive cheap garbage and pretend they're hot shit. I mean its same with bimmer and kinda with merc but bimmerfags atleast take theirs to the track adn bimmers are good.

30% of audi drivers pay like 4k for an quattro or an RS or some shit and sit in parking lots blasting music because they get their shit pushed in everywhere and that's all they can do. Or they buy a newer and shinier one for same money and pretend they're richfags and make pathedic passes at girls.
60% of audi fags are literal white trailer trash as europs can be. Live in fucking squalor wear wife beaters every day and are overall shit human beings. They think they are enlightened gentlemen for driving their 400 eur audi shitbox around and show up to streetrace meets to do fwd burnouts and when it is time to change locations and everyone arrives at the racing area, all audis mysteriously dissapear.

tl;dr audis are dogshit

>>17543259
>those wheels
>car slammed on broken suspension

Ultimate Scrape Machine more like it

>>17544540
> Has the best interior design
have you ever sat in a fucking Audi? stop talking out of your ass.

I'd buy a Mercedes all over these wannabe' s

>>17542889
This. 190e and 500e were the shit.

>>17544519
Aix
Ut
Dgain
Iony

>>17543522
that would be a nice car if the suspension wasn't broken and the wheels weren't chinkshit

>>17544649
Notice I said interior design, not build or material quality. While looks are subjective, Audi since 90s era made the best looking interiors. While Mercedes was good too, BMW was and remains shit in design till this day. Also layout of cockpit in Audi is really well thought out.

>>17544600
so much this.
can relate
I actually had an argument with poorfag audi fanboys where they were claiming FWD and AWD help you turn
in short audi fanboys are deluded

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>>17544456
cost more than your shitbox

>>17544638
and still the fastest here 8)

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>>17545929

*block you path*

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>>17544775
>BMW was and remains shit in design till this day.

Nah you're just retarded

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>>17547764
Closer, but wrong.

>>17547757
i dig the blob of a steering wheel
i also like how theres several unused button cutouts on an M5, paying for 'quality' over quantity I see.

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>>17547813
yeah I know, if only it looked more like this basic bitch toyota interior right here

>>17547833
guess what retard i'm not the person you originally replied to that looks like garbage too, similar to all european cars

>>17547855
What car looks good then you stupid cunt? American cars have the worst interiors of all and japs luxury cars literally copy the germans

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>>17547861
settle down fritz

>>17547878
Hey I'm not German but that actually looks pretty good

>>17547886
its not my favorite but I picked something I thought you'd like

>>17547769
I heard that Infiniti a shit. Is it just buttblasted Hans and friends?

Mercedes > BWM > Audi

It's a fact.

>>17547890
I'm a sucker for that stitched leather

Show us your favorite then

>>17547757
You sound like a fanboy. Bmw interiors are dogshit compared to merc/audi. Thats the compromise, you get a better driving experience at the expense of comfiness.

>>17547833
Speaking of basic bitch cars, you cant even get ventilated seats in the 3 series

>>17543259
>ultimate driving machine
>never able to drive because it's broken

>>17548209
>ventilated seats

rich people bullshit

>>17542750
If it was the 90's BMW, If it was the 70's Mercedes, If we were on Bizzaro earth where everything wrong is right and ever thing broken was considered fixed, Then Audi.

>>17548209
Yeah I'm a fanboy, loved bimmers since I was a little kid

What does that have to do with audi interiors being objectively worse? I'll grant that bimmers do in fact trade some comfort for speed and driving fun but I've never seen an audi interior that I thought was nicer than the interior of an equivalent class bimmer, can't say the same for merc though as they are on top of the interior game for most of their vehicles.

>>17548209
Also the 3 series is entry level, pretty sure you can't get ventilated seats on an entry level audi yeah?

Also no one gives a shit about ventilated seats anyway, would you take that audi interior I posted over the bimmer interior I posted simply because of ventilated seats? I highly doubt that. One extremely niche feature doesn't make up for cheap materials and bland design my friend.

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>>17542750
Not those

>>17547757
that interior is a decade old

>kill
>marry
>fuck

>>17549281
That's the point, 2 decades old and still superior to any audi interior

>>17549293
Kill all German cars
Fuck Lexus
Marry Genesis

A lot of you faggots are talking about old era cars which is relevant to most as you would only buy used ones.

However current year offerings is a more important question.

My vote goes for BMW because they still make manuals.

>>17547982

Infinitis own if you want a daily but the paddle shifters are boring.

If they kept making stick shift cars I would buy one brand new - they are the closest thing America's luxury brands have to offer that are actually good.

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/thread

wew. that was hard.

>>17542823
Aguante

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>>17549469
>those lcd gauge clusters straight out of a ps2 game

>>17542847
>>17542889

quality indexes all show mercedes superior to beamers and most audi models (badged up shitty VW)

thats why people lease bmw, but buy merc or lexus

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>>17549496
For an LCD display, its rather elegant.

You wanna talk video game shit then look at Audi's LCD screens.

>>17549533
Nah nigga, thats cheap looking as fuck
Nothing elegant about it

>>17549552
Tasteless fools are entitled to their shitty opinions.

>>17549469

lol that little tiny penis lever is probably the handbrake

>>17549569
You sound buttmad, not everyone is going to agree with you in life

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Best balance
>Petrol BMW at home
>Diesel Benz at work

>>17542750
if you talking new, then Audi. Really athletic and comfy. New BMWs are dogshit aside from the Mcars. Mercedes is meh, hipster tier with their entry models for kids.

This is coming from an e34/e36/e46/e39/e38/ fan

>>17549800
But the new s4 doesn't have a clutch

>>17549417
How's their reliability compared to the Euros or Lexus?
I'm fine with paddle shifters since it'll be a daily drive but if I don't even get that much in reliability or upkeep then I might as well go euro for the extra snobbishness.

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Literally the best interior
>driver oriented
>clean

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>>17549510
>quality indexes all show mercedes superior to beamers and most audi models
KEK

>>17550069
i thought Ford was one of the last?

>>17549800
>new audis are athletic
>horribly balanced understeer mobiles
>extremely overweight

>>17550065
Yup and no retarded electronics clusterfuck or corny analog clock

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The cars are only as good as the drivers. Bimmerfags where I live drive like their hot shit, but too afraid of going over 60 on surface streets, so their cars' potential is untapped

Audi, refer to pic related. These people shouldn't even be behind the wheel.

Porsche, too many soccer moms in Porsche Cayennes have made me dismiss them entirely.

Mercedes, best of the three.

>>17550415
so you only judge cars only by people who drive them? how about an actual objective evaluation?

>>17542998
This

>>17544011
Same lol

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>>17547878
BTFO
T
F
O

>>17547878
looks good too bad the car itself is shit and the interior quality is awful

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>>17542750
/THREAD

Audi when your 12
Mercedes when your 16
BMW when you are 22

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>>17550065
you were close
but the e39 with aluminium trim and GPS
is the pinnacle of Interieur design
it offers all the features you demand from a modern vehicle
while still keeping the 90s simplicity and not falling for the current year meme of
trying to be luxurious and sporty at the same time through overdesign and exotic materials
like >>17547878 does

>>17550546
I dont like the navigation but yeah the aluminium trim is GOAT

>>17550560
>I dont like the navigation
I wouldn't wanna miss its functionality in a daily driver
a decent screen alone, just for selecting your music/radio station is worth the added clutter to me
and this one is clean and well integrated into the car unlike the modern ipads or giant bulges in the dash

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>>17550546
I just bought an e39 facelift diesel for flipping and can confirm, the car has goat tier ergonomics.
This is coming from a 21 year old guy who has owned 15 cars
pic related my car

>>17550044

Lexus is the literal king of reliability so its hard to compare to them.

It kinda just boils down to if you respect Nissan or not - which is a meme to hate them on this board full of bus riders. People that actually grew up doing shit like 240sx engine swaps but went to college and got real jobs tend to get Infinitis. This should give you an idea of how rare that is.

But I personally always liked Nissan when it came to their engines. They get a bad rap but if you take care of them they are surprisingly reliable and work well enough for how cheap they are. But if you go Infiniti, get the coupe cause they do those stock V6 twin turbos for the lols. It's not like you'll be redlining 0-60 at every stoplight - people in Mustangs and entry level BMWs won't even realize what you're driving because it blends into traffic like an octopus.

Avoid the SUV stuff of course.

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>>17549229
You can get ventilated seats on a4, c class, lexus is, and jaguar xe, all entry level. They're not that niche (even kias have it) and are godtier in the summer. Try them out friendo, nissan/infiniti are damn good for cooling.

After having tested almost all the entry level compacts, yea i would take the audi over bmw interior
The 6 series gran coupe is pure sex tho

>>17550606
>only one without a tablet bolted onto the dash is the Jag
Where did it all go wrong for ze Germans?

>>17550680
Who knows but that's another reason i liked the jag the most. Also audi a3 can still hide the tablet, breddy nice daily

>>17550459
nice meme

Audi interiors are quite nice but their cars drive like shit. Mercedes are dull with high build quality and they also have the honor of making the worst sounding V8 ever made (in the chav63).

BMW is das ubermensch.

e90 any good?
found one 2006 320d for 6200 euro
should I get this or a golf 6 1.4 tsi of 2009 for the same price
the bmw has more HP but which one will have less problems and stuff? I dont want that cause its gonna be my first car
I like both
the bmw seems manlier but the gold seems smaller/qter

links of both:
http://www.merrjep.al/Njoftimi/Shitet/Tiran%C3%AB/AUTOMJETE/Makina/VW-Volkswagen/Golf/Golf/OKAZION-GOLF6-1-4-TSI/4432520
http://www.merrjep.al/Njoftimi/Shitet/Tiran%C3%AB/AUTOMJETE/Makina/BMW/Seri-3/320/Bmw-320--okazion-2-0--/4387685

>>17551085
This. AMG V8's sound like wet farts. And I work at a Benz dealership so I hear them every day

>>17551019
>meme
Lol I wish it was a meme
The Giulia is so unreliable it has become a modern unreliability meme though

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>>17551137
you mean like the Fiat 500 and the 10k€ yearly maintenance costs?

>>17551168
>driving a car that even a civic could flatten

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>>17551181
that's flat out wrong though, in fact VW had to stage a crash test against a Q7 to make it look bad

>>17551188
>shilling cars made of spaghetti and garbage

>>17545929
>Calling me poorfag when he couldn't afford BBS LMs unlike me.

KEK
Here comes a speed bump m8

>>17551168
Lmao there was a Jalopnik article which had compilated all the Giulia breaking down stories.
Italians can't into reliability, there is a reason FCA is at the bottom of any reliability index
http://jalopnik.com/the-alfa-romeo-giulia-is-the-perfect-unreliable-italian-1796883384

>>17550604
Good to know. How does the newer V6 turbo hold up to their older 3.7L?

>>17551305
>(((gawker)))
>>17551253
>implying the shills aren't the (((journalists))) with VAG

>>17551425
>m-muh paid shills
there are at least 5-6 independent journalists that ran into severe quality issues with the Giulia and by severe I mean getting stranded on the road lmfao

>>17551444
I'd get stranded on the road too if I was getting paid by BMW to do so

>>17549496
I know, isn't it fantastic?

>>17551289
step lip VSXX is worth more than LMs lmao

>>17542823
spbp

>>17551324

I only have experience with the vq35de and it was good enough for sliding around parking lots and mild street drifting. i never did anything bigger than a safe/wide exit ramp so its not like I was tracking them but I did daily them.

however, i have had a stock RB25 before and I just kept the boost as low as it would go and it never had a single problem. When it comes to turbos a lot of the issues you see and hearsay stems from people that will do stuff like shut the car off immediately after driving and wonder why they're having to spend thousands at the shop every year before finally giving up and buying something else

related to this, fwiw my first turbo was a SR20 and it didn't last long because I was in my early 20s trying to get into drifting and engine swaps at the same time

>>17542750
>interior: audi
>exterior: mercedes
>nothing: bmw

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>>17553155
>driving experience is nothing

>>17552425
>ravspec in the threads is charging 3600 for a set of 19in step lips
>700-900 dollars for 1 rim

M8, that's chump change compared to a 1200-1500 dollar LM.

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BMW is goat

>>17542750
They're all overpriced, over-complicated shitboxes that won't last a day after their lease expires without some sort of critical failure.

And they market to dumb new money harder than trucks market to rednecks

>>17553155
Spotted the 70 year old

>>17553174
>this meme
The old m3s and m5s are godlike driving experience but everything else is pretty meh

>>17553295
they are still better than their respective merc/audi counterparts though
and that's all OP is asking for

>>17542996
Mercedes buses are pretty popular in Yurp.

>>17544551
>scribbling out your plate
I don't get why people do this, can you enlighten me. I understand if youre putting it up for sale on CL or something and only people in your are seeing it but why do you car in you're going to post it on some obscure japanese cartoon website.There is no record of other posts if somehow they found out who you are but If you google your plate number nothing comes up and thats the extent of anything people here got.

so yeah explain why this is a bad thing?

Do i lease a new bmw 3 or a 4 gran coupe??? Pls help

>>17551324
Gonna interject in this offtopic discussion: if you're considering the newer Q series and care about road feel/handling response, then know that the new Qs have notoriously "disconnected" feeling drive-by-wire electric steering.

Can't say I have personal experience, but read/watch reviews. Can say that I own a G37 and LOVE the hydraulic steering found in the Gs and Zs pre-2014 (still in Zs) and that it is among the best modern steering racks as far as road feel and sporty precision. Reliability is never a straight answer, but Infiniti/Nissan definitely aren't at the bottom of any reliability lists. I take care of my shit and my shit runs perfectly.

>>17542847
You havent really used any of these did you?
Listen bmw is unreliable af,my dad bought a 740 LI 2012 last year,2 months after he bought it the radiator was leaking.
And audi has pretty terrible reliability
In terms of engine build quality mercedes comes on top of these 3

>>17547878
there is no disputing italian style and cocksure swagger

>>17554588
I was looking at a G37 as an alternative if the Q50 didn't feel great. They're also a bit cheaper, which is nice.
How's the ride on yours? I heard that G37s are notably stiff or rough riding, which I don't really want for a daily.

>>17554625
having worked at a mercedes dealership I can tell you that you're wrong.
reliability is
Audi


BMW
MERC

>>17554705
kek sure thing pal
if you also had worked in an Audi dealership we'd be hearing a different story

>>17542823
seconded. or fourthed?

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>>17542750
Mercedes sounds the best, BMW feels the best, Audi looks the best.
To me.

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Redpill me on Scotty Kilmer

>>17542750
In 3 segments; technology, drive, and luxury
>Audi
+Tech
+Drive
-Luxury
>Mercedes
+Drive
+Luxury
-Tech
>BMW
+Drive
-Tech
-Luxury

Note: Judged by the prices of $80k+ vehicles from all three places.
A7, S-Class, BMW 6 Series

>>17555409
what the FUCK is this asshole's problem?

>>17550069
>jd power rankings

fucking keke ur like 4 years old

a real quality index like LTQI

fuken retard kids lmao

>>17550606
merc > audi > BMW > jaguar """luxury""" (kek dem style cues and lines are amateur)

>>17542750
BMW

It's not even close, really.

>>17542750
>people legitimately dont think Mercedes is the best
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

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>>17555555
What a fucking waste of hexes goddamn

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>>17542750

Hello.

>>17554350
If you're not going to do an M car do a loaded 340xi.

>>17554686
they're good if you cant find a 350 or 370z for a fair price

anything nissan does that is rwd will usually be a good platform to build a fun car off. the hard part is finding one that hasnt been beaten to shit because like hondas they tend to attract a certain kind of inexperienced enthusiast that means well but doesnt consider driving a car for more than 280k miles

>>17555489
You drove the shittiest BMW and compared it to the best of the others, you fucking retard.

>>17555568
It's because I'm God damned right.

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Made over $500 betting with my friend, that has a BMW, that anyone we pass driving this car doesn't look above the age of 20.

Feels good man

>>17555555
>Looks for 17555555
>Its probably on the Audi/Mercedes/BMW thread

>>17549229
Pretty sure the VW CC has vented seats as well. Those have nice interiors and are pretty cheap too.

>>17555646
Yea I've noticed some demographic swings for certain luxury brands as well. Mercedes used older models seem to be coveted in the spic market. That market also seems to love the Nissan's especially Altimas. It's uncanny.

Also does anyone else think many of the newer designs are dogshit? Lexus and Toyota in general looks fucking awful. All their new stuff looks atrocious. Honda has had a similar problem. Looking at the Acura lines like TSX and TL and some other base Honda brands the designs have just been god awful. Mercedes 2010ish+ looks fine.

>>17555725
>Mercedes 2010ish+ looks fine.
agreed
Mercedes had a dark age in the 00s

>>17555725
>>17555734
or more like late 90s and most of the 00s
The W204 was the first part of their renaissance, but they're fucking up the interiors again. W204 facelift was GOAT.

>>17555725
i like new lexus,

new acura and honda gross
not hot about toyota

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How did I do fellow kids

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>>17553180
post your Varrstoens ya fuckin poser lmao

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>>17555804
Another of the 3
11 yrs we've been together

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>>17555804
> silver
Were they the cheapest or are you just boring?

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Ford.

Ecoboost is the best.

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>>17555855
Did someone say Ecoboost?

>>17555608
A 350 or 370 is probably out of the question for me, since I want some rear seats.

How are Nissan/Infiniti's AWD? I'm up innamountains and I was leaning towards an AWD to deal with the shitty weather and road conditions. It's the same reason I was factoring in the suspension. Roadwork here is pants on head retarded and a lot of the streets are in questionable condition.

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>>17555865
ecoBOOOOOOOOOOOSTTTTTT!!!!

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who do you guys like to trigger more? Mrcumdump or GyspsySpecial400?

they are both insecure as fuck and overcompensate hard for the lack of paternal and just so easy to trigger

personally preffer the gypsy because doesn't fuck dogs

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>>17555851
U mean gods color?
go fuck urself fatass

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>>17555907
>fatass
lol g00d1

What a shit boring color

>>17555734
Good analogy that fits with my opinion as well.
>>17555785
I think the new Lexus looks even worse than the new Toyota even if similar or same. They made the grill front end somehow worse. The Acura and Hondas I'm talking 2008ish/2010 and newer. The MDX looks okay though.

>>17555926
>the red means lust

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>>17555926
Says the goy with white Virgin wheels

Hellrot or gtfo

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>>17555935
It is hellrot ya dumb foreigner

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The wagon and sportback models look interesting. The regal GS version was a fun drive.

>>17555955
> pos Buick
> fun
LOL fukin /o/ you faggots crack me up

Aircooled Porsches>>>Marked up Subarus>>>Pre-Daimler Chrysler Benzes>>Bmw's from 1930's to 1991>>>Post-DC Benzes>>>Post '91 BMW's>>>yugos>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>flaming bag of dog shit>>>>>>>>>>AUDIs.

>>17555968
Drive one of the older (2012?) regal GS w/ manual. It's not bad. Buicks are pretty nice nowadays especially since GM usually has all sorts of deals.

>>17555955
id rather drive a 90s fiesta than that shitbox

>>17555851
>>drive a dumped E36
>>call others cheap

>>17555953
Fine then Imola or gtfo
Whichever one u don't have spicboi

>>17555981
Dunno I'd rather have the 90's Park Avenue with the 3.8 and supercharger. Heads up display and all the whistles. Comfy as hell.

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>>17555978
No it's not lmao
Nice compared to what?

>>17555987
> have 10k in wheels and supercharger
more than your entire shitbox

>>17556003
Why would you put 10k into an antique?

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>>17556023
That's just on 2 things m8, there's probably 3x more ;)

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>>17556033
>ruining a perfectly good car with overpriced mods and shit rims

>>17556053
you forgot the part where he ruined the suspension geometry
the height of faggotry

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>>17556003
>spent that much on an e36
> I don't think so tim.targa

>>17556023
More credit than brains, obviously

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>>17556076
> If I parrot things others say it means it's true!

>>17556053
t. guy who owns an actual piece of shit

>>17556079
It's been mechanically restored, all new trim, window seals, you name it 8)

>>17556079
nice, V16?

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A challenger appears

>>17556097
>being proud of spendig that much on what is literally one of the worst BMW's of all time.
>not restoring 1930's art deco masterpieces

>>17556099
Pierce-Arrow Straight 8. You can balance a nickel on its side on the valve cover at idle.

>>17556105
>and promptly goes home with its tail between its legs

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>>17556111
> pretending to be a boomer and purposely liking trash
> not driving the dogshit out of your supreme douchemobile
Lol your life must be shit anon

>>17555811
Here>>17553190
>Varrstoens
I don't like that companies designs

I'll also post the 16' range I own with time stamp if you so please :^)

>>17556105
New chevy sedans looks pretty nice. I don't know how well the Cruze models work with the turbo. I wonder if they're any good. Perhaps I'm weird but the impala and malibu lines really good design at the curb. Newer caddys are hit or miss with me. Might be the huge vertical light thing.

>>17556131
>pretending to be wealthy amd polishing a turd, but doing so in a fashion that makes it indistinguishable from other polished turds.
>not having the fab skills or mechanical knowhow or taste or financial means to appreciate actual classics
>thinking that boomers were alive in the '30's

>>17556131
>posts spicmobile, desperately seeking approval.
>projects miserable life on to others

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>>17556149
You just follow whatever your dad's into you poser transboomer lmao

>>17556159
I wonder why you didn't post your mundane $800 shitbox?

>>17556003
>No it's not lmao
regal gs is a turbo w/ manual six. it's a fun ride but not as fun as a grand national. tradeoffs all that. assume you don't try different things or haven't at all yet.

>>17556164
>still being this asspained about the lack of approval for his bought ride
>projection intensifies
>still thinks boomers were alive in the '30's

>>17556164
Make 20k a year
Spend it all on making a car shit

>>17556149
I've always had daydreams about restoring an IROC or a Starion. The old 90's 300z's are nice too. Issue is they've likely been modded by some asshole already.

>>17556164
I posted my $40k profit generating American Rolls Royce. Do you even barnfind, bro?

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>>17556167
Nah man I'm just not a shit thing apologist
GM is trash

>>17556182
> Bought
Yeah and your immobile brass shitbox is "built", you're a supreme enthusiast in your inferior pos

>>17556193
It's not Forza ya fukin loser

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>>17556164
>not wrenching and sharing good times with your own father
>staying this mad about everything

>>17556210
>Nah man I'm just not a shit thing apologist
>GM is trash
brand loyalty gets you nowhere son. All makes have bad models and runs. naive.

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>>17556210
[Buttblastedness intensifies]

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>>17556225
GM isn't good at anything lmao
You'd be somewhat believable if you posted something other than a fwd Buick shitbox

>>17556210
>asspain intensifies, straw-grasping increases
>i-i-i don't know how to work on cars, thus no one else does, either.
I re-did the plumbing, put in a new wool headliner, rebuilt the brakes/transmission, fabbed up a new exhaust, and after putting fresh gas in it, the engine fired right up...despite being parked in the 50's.
Just took it on a coast to coast roadtrip, borderbunny.
Your pleBMW is a glorified grenade of a shitbox and you are a stupid spic.

>>17542750
Dear God not Audi

-audi owner

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>>17556242
I'd be mad too if I owned some horse drawn pos

>>17556216
My guess is that daddy wasn't there. Hence the persona and the "pay attention to meeeee/ CRAAAWWWLLLlIIIINNG IIINNN MY SKIN" red paint.

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>>17556118
fucking nice
this is the Caddy I thought it was at first

>>17556248
It's okay. I'm sure your dad had his reasons for leaving. Do you tell yourself it's not your fault?

>>17556111
>h on what is literally one of the worst BMW's of all time
agreed, the E36 was the beginning of the end
I have no respect for BMWs after the E30

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>>17556257
a-all the time >;-[

>>17556263
good thing we all value the opinions of Pontiac Boneville owning poorfags

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Mercedes S500? Nevermind the good awful rims. I currently own an Audi A4 2008, it's at 95k miles and I'm afraid it's going to break down any day now

>>17556253
Caddies of the era are amazing vehicles, but Pierce-Arrows were second only to duesenberg. It's a very different driving experience, for damned sure, but it's not unpleasant. The ridiiculous overbuilding of everything on the car is breath-taking, too. Case in point, that's original paint. Back in the day, it was $10 (1930's bux) a gallon. PA used about 10 gallons of the shit. Buffed right back to its original luster. The straight 8 is essentially a boat anchor by modern standards, but it's buttery smooth and the car can do 70 on the freeway all day, thanks to the overdrive. Interesting fact: You don't need to use the clutch to shift.

>>17556268
>being this desperate for validation
top kek
spics are the worst

>>17547982
they all use the same motor with the exception of the qx56 or whatever it is now. a motor that has a water pump driven by the timing chain. at least the bmw's water pump is electrical and can be replaced without dropping the motor and taking apart it apart

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>>17556284
I don't need validation, I'm not the one on an auto enthusiasm board with a shitbox
Poorfags confirmed for worst

>>17556295
>drives an e36
>calls other cars shit boxes

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>>17542750
Bitches don't know about my Pontiac.

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>>17556302
I drive lots of cars 8)

>>17556309
did you use uber to go back to your house to get the other cars?

>>17556281
I had a 2008 A4 2.0T Quattro. I sold it at 105k mi when the dealership said it was due for a timing belt which was going to be about $2400. Wasn't worth keeping even though the rest of the cars was in great shape. I still miss it sometimes but I bought a Benz this time around. Might go back to Audi though. Friend of mine just got an A6 and the quality is so much better than it used to be.

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>>17556318
Lyft dawg

>>17556309
>and none of them are any good

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>>17556309
>implying you didn't crash them all already.

Why is the gypsy sperging today?

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>>17556339
t. drives a handmedown Oldsmobile Alero

>>17556282
Is this >>17556323 you? lol

>>17556354
He knows he's a loser and shitposting for responses makes him feel better about himself

>>17556282
a 1930 car doing 70? Awesome!
Even more amazing considering there were no modern highways yet.

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>>17556384
t. poor fat geek with shitboxes

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>>17556355
>>17556399
lmao he is on a fucking mental meltdown right now lol

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>>17556399
>thinks he's trolling
>everyone fucking laughs at him
>thinks he's winning

Your cars suck

>>17556327
Damn, I guess I should really consider selling soon then. How much would I get for it if everything is in good condition. The A/C intake fan doesn't spin consistently at a stop, that's the only thing.

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>>17556408
Did you convince yourself that you "like" shit cars?
It's 2017 you can literally go buy taste

>>17556118
You should make a webm of that, I bet it would be quite a hoot

Audi is for women and homosexuals merc is for old fags and pakis bmw is for young profesionals enthusiasts and niggers simple as that.

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Audi is fucking shit.

Mercs definetly.
Im a BMW fan boy, but I have to admit my defeat when it comes to German cars in general. Mercs just never stop working, pretty much like and old Volvo.

>american opinion on audi

would rather kill myself

>>17542900
>Best interiors/highway cruisers: Audi
Even A3 (can) have fine interior.

>>17542789
Are they really that good?
2012s look fairly inexpensive, all things considered, for a comfy rwd v6

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*blocks your track*

>>17558430
because you're 70 years old and driving the speed limit?

>>17549469
>analogue clocks
>in current year cars

>>17558479
that is tasteful as fuck, pleb.

>>17551104
320d had issues with the timing chain scratching on parts and eventually breaking.
ask if it was looked at/ fixed

>>17555555
5 series
checks out!

>>17555955
nice Opel

Itt:
>Audi sucks
>Merc comfy
>bimmer fun
>2 stancefags arguing about who's modifications that actually reduce the performance and reliability of the car is "better"

>>17558574
lol forreal tho:
>unironic informed off-topic discussion on Infiniti for the first time in /o/ history

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>>17555555
HEXES OF TRUTH

>audi
FWD rebadged Volkswagens
>Mercedes
Don't offer manual
>BMW
For whatever reason it's a halo car or a sign of wealth despite that many aren't exciting. But they're RWD, manuals are still available and they're one of the last to still make and use a straight six

>>17559198
nissan scum here - i6 fucking owns, prolly my favorite sounding engines of cars i actually drive fast. v8s are cool but they're wild business lol

>>17559312
>i6 fucking owns, prolly my favorite sounding engines of cars i actually drive fast. v8s are cool but they're wild business lol

My nigga, I'm totally in love with I6 sounds

V8's are cool because they have the stereotypical "aggressive car" sound but at times they can be utterly cacophonous

>>17559378
>at times they can be utterly cacophonous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2an7l_khho
:^)

>>17559496
Heard one in traffic the other day, water buffalo farts and industrial drill noises

I wonder if they actually listen to the car before buying but hell they're just buying a badge in the end

>>17558500
too late its already gone
how about gold 6 1.4 tsi
I just want a smooth comfy drive and not many problems as long as I take care of it

Ok lets see
I owned SUV's from all of them
>audi q5
Bad interior
Bad exterior
Good tech
Really shit reliability
>x5
nice exterior
Bad interior
Meh reliability
> GLE 400
Good interior
Meh exterior
Nice tech
Idk about reliability i still didnt drive 5k miles on it

Ford

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BMW - Plebian
Audi - Contrarian
Merc - Patrician

They're all great though

>>17550588

Looks like it's all real buttons to. Nice.

>>17555555
wow i've never seen hexes be objectively wrong before
guess theres a first for everything

>>17563209
how is it wrong? audi is shit and merc is for old men.

>>17563209
That's because he's not wrong

>>17542750
Mercedes are the most reliable
BMW are the most fun to drive
Audi is a luxury value brand.

>>17542750
Always
Underwhelming,
Deutsch
Impotence

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>>17551168
>>17551188

>>17554705
Isn't the biggest thing with most German cars just preventative maintenance? My dad has a 2001 ML 500 and it still goes like new with 268,000km on the clock. Compression test done about 12,000km ago showed the engine was still holding up like new basically. Only major issue has been where power steering belt snapped but that wasn't too expensive a fix, otherwise just regular oil change/brake pads etc. has been all that's been necessary over the years. Also god damn do they know how to make a nice sounding engine, even though its single exhaust.

>>17542750

Skoda. Hear me out before screaming "BAIT". Skoda belong fo VW and pretty much everything in a Skoda is standard VW parts but they don't cost nearly as much.
For exemple, the shittiest Golf cost 20K€ (and it's a Golf, so everybody thinks you're a gipsy or an arab), meanwhile the cedan Octavia with a 116hp engine is at 20.5K€. So you get a pretty comfy car that is relatively dependable and won't cost 5K to change a spark plug.
Granted, Skoda aren't fun cars but for a daily car to go to work or even on vacation with the family they are nice for the price tag.

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>>17563344
Mercedes and Porsche are typically very reliable. They're engineered to survive high mileage lives on high load. They can have design fuckups as they're not perfect like their fanboys like to pretend they are but they're also not unreliable shit heaps like their detractors like to pretend. I have a 198,000 mile (about 300,000km) 1999 C280. I bought it at 90,000 miles right out of high school and abused it with shitty teenage driving and maintenance neglect. I haven't had a few problems but not anything horrific.

At 121,000 I had an obnoxious squeaking wheel mount; dealership I bought it from used fixed it for free
At 153,000 headliner started sagging, haven't bothered to replace it
At 167,000 I started having weird electrical problems where the blinkers, headlights, and windows would sporadically stop working and alarms would go off upon opening. Determined it was due to a leaking seal in the rear drivers side window seal, causing water to get onto a locking system terminal within the door. Dealership wanted $1,000 to fix it, indie shops wanted $400, fixed it for $30 in 2 hours.
At 169,000 replaced a water pump for preventative maintenance for $300
At 171,000 I had a fuel pump die on me. Thought it was a manufacturer defect, later found out the place I got gas from was cutting the fuel with tap water. Police used it to refuel their new Explorers and got clogged injectors and dead pumps. Tested gas samples and found sediment and water in it. Replacement was $300.
At 198,000 currently have a minor oil leak from valve gasket grommets. Loaned it to my mother while I was up north for a few months, during which she let the oil get to empty then overfilled it till it overflowed. Going to fix it at home for $190. Additionally I have an annoying squeak coming from front right suspension. Sounds like parts rubbing. Going to try to re-lube it for about, $25. May need new spring and shock for $360

talking about very very reliable cars:
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2009/oct/25/bmw-325-million-mile-motor

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>>17563321
ayyy is that you Italybro?

>>17563414
W202 was the last true Benz
not really representative of modern MB

>>17563584
>this garbage is what local alfistas actually drive

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>>17563599
wow, forgive me for not wanting to shell out 40k for a used 159 with dubious kilometrage

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>>17563599
Also it's a car that has given me great satisfactions despite being wrong wheel drive. It's like Clarkson says, you can't call yourself a gearhead if you haven't owned an Alfa.

>>17554686
G37 ride is decent. A little stiff since it's based of Z platform. Not just "sport stiff" but has a bit of "up-down" motion on bumpy roads. Soaks up bigger stuff better and overall good momentum. 7/10 sacrifices soft luxury, but good sportiness.

>>17555871
People generally shit on X AWD models for adding weight, but not for any other good reason afaik. Its a similar AWD system as the GTR (RWD priority, sends to front as needed) so it's probably pretty good.

are e90 any good?
found 2 2006 320d manual ones for 5700 euro
only problem is they are at around 200k km
If they have taken care of it should I do it? Will it break even if I do regular maintenance? Is it that unreliable or is it just expensive only when things do break?

>>17542789
fuck off shill
Genesis is the Rondo Music of /o/

They're probably all good in some aspects, as well as bad. I cant see myself ever owning one as they're too pricey.