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so, I bought a new car

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so, I bought a new car
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>>17491696
wtf did u shop the license plate on ??
Ljubljana faggot
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>>17491701
nope
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>>17491696
>weighs as much as a stripped out volvo 240 land barge while being literally 4 feet shorter in length and 3 inches narrower
>tiny ass anemic engine with no power
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>>17491750
any other awful baits? pls post them all
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>>17491755
How is that bait?
Everything there is a fact, baits are half truths or outright lies, all of that is complete truth.
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>>17491756
post them all
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>>17491760
Did I give you a complex?
You seem rather emotional right now over these facts.
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>>17491765
>bait
>nope, it's a fact
>u mad

it's funny how shitposters always have the same replies. cute!
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>>17491777
Explain the falsehoods in my post, point them out for me.
You should have zero issue doing this, right?
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>>17491696
Wut engine?
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>>17491755
>>17491760
>>17491777
>buys shit car
>triggered when /o/ calls it a shit car

>this level of damage control
Gee
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>>17491696
what car did you buy?
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Welcome to the family
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>>17491895
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I'm v jelly
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>>17491899
Oh, nice. I like the new tail lights.
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so you bought a car aimed at girls?
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>>17491929
>That back end
Absolutely awful, but that triple light set up is pure fuckin sex. Saw one in person was pretty good minus the weird shaped body and ass. I am jelly of your logo too
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Benvenuto, also I hate yellow but it actually doesn't look bad on that car.
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>>17491990
>t. massive denial expert
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>>17491990
A heavy, slow, overpriced and quickly depreciating car aimed at homosexuals and women*
My gay friend owns a fiat 500 lol
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>another Fiat thread
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>>17492023
>heavy

No. 1100 kg

>slow

No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ8QSw9Z-Co
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>>17492078
Forgot

>overpriced

True but mostly depends on the trim.

I've been offered a 145 hp entry level 595 base model for 14.900€ which is not bad.

With a reasonable amount of money you can tune the engine up to 595 competizione specs and over because the 1.4 is bulletproof, just change the intercooler and turbo
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>>17492085
>>17492078
Eh, it is quite heavy for such a tiny car, but with safety standards today and Italians not really being known for weight saving as say, Mazda it makes sense. As for price, the depreciation is nice because you can pick a lightly used couple year old model for half what it was new, or even less. Like you said, the engine is pretty low powered, but very reliable. Probably the only solid thing Fiat makes.
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>>17492105
>Italian not known for weight reduction

The Alfa Romeo Giulia - apart from the Quadrifoglio - is the lightest model among competitors.

However the 500 chassis is derived from the Fiat panda, it's not 100% specific.
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>>17492119
Yeah that's what I meant. When they want to, they can put a lot of effort into car design. With the 500, they just said "we want to make the panda look like an old 500" and that was really the only design requirement. Then for the Abarth they just slapped a turbo on it and New suspension and went out to lunch. I kinda like it for that. Still wish we got the panda over here.
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nice! did your boyfriend liked that color?!
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>>17491750
>volvo 240
>land barge
Lol nah.
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>>17492233
>4 feet longer
>3 inches wider
>same weight
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
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>>17492235
3 narrower* lmfao
Absolutely inexcusable
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>>17492235
>Stripped out old vehicle weighs the same as pigfat modern vehicle
Shockedface.jpg
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>>17492276
>four feet longer
FOUR
FEET
Even stock it's at 2800 which isn't even that far off lol
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>>17492289
I'm not defending it, I'm just saying modern cars, even small ones that have no right to be are inexplicably heavy because everything needs 3,000 airbags and 5 star ratings. It's retarded that a city car weighs so much.
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>>17492334
Except there are plenty of cars that are similar in size but weigh less.
They didn't even try.
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>>17492343
Like what? Not trying to start anything just genuinely curious, cause even cars like the Golf or Fiesta are larger or 5 doors. Off the top of my head I'd imagine the new Twingo is closest to its size, and probably weighs less as it shares a chassis with the Smart.
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>>17491696
truly sexy lad
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>>17492360
The miata is bigger and weighs less for one, the fiesta is bigger and weighs a bit more, but if the fiat was scaled up to the same size, would weigh much more.
Like I said, they really didn't even try.
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>>17492369
The Miata is literally the only comparable modern car that's lighter, and even then it's the same weight if you get the hardtop to match the Abarth. Fiesta ST nice but it's is 200lb more.
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post god awful interior
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>>17492395
>Fiesta ST nice but it's is 200lb more.
It's also almost 2 feet longer.... fucking hell man did you even read what i typed?
Also, the miata is bigger than the fiat and it's lighter.
Bigger yet lighter.
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>>17492369
The Miata is a dedicated roadster, however, but yeah Mazda worked some magic. The current one is larger but even lighter than the previous model, isn't it?
As far as the Fiesta goes I think it's a case of diminishing returns. You get smaller and smaller and the weight savings you can make and keep the car within modern standards become less and less. The Fiesta is larger but how much of that is just stretched body work and a slightly longer chassis, with more internal volume? Simply scaling the 500 up isn't an entirely accurate judgement of how much it would weigh, because the drivetrain would stay the same size, the chassis would get a bit longer. I'm not an expert so if this sounds wrong then really let me have it.
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>>17492400
So the Fiesta ST is bigger and heavier... Two negatives.

And like I said, the Miata is literally the only comparable car that's lighter, and even then the same weight as the Abarth if you get the hardtop to match.
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>>17492411
>>17492401
>>17492400
The Fiat also uses a cast iron block compared to the aluminum ones in the Mazda and the Ford, so part of it is on Fiat for using archaic technology. Like what previous anon said they weren't really trying to create and extremely lightweight, dedicated performance car, just a hatchback with a little more go juice.
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>>17492421
Yeah but the volvo is cast iron as well, as well as having a RWD layout which weighs even more since it has a 300lb solid truck axle in the back instead of IRS or just being FWD like the fiat is.
Like I said, inexcusable.
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>>17492438
And the Volvo is not a modern vehicle, all of which have become bloated beyond saving. Why is it constantly used as a benchmark?
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>>17492438
And the Volvo doesn't have side impact protecting beams, airbags, abs, traction control and the associated sensors, large collapsing foam dash, collapsible crash structures, a full turbo and intercooler system.
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>>17491696
Well you do have a car now, that puts you ahead of 95% of /o/
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>>17492539
Fuck why can't we go back. I want to see a modern car with every possible safety and comfort feature stripped out of it.
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>>17492539
Volvo does have side impact beams...
Has air bags as well, no idea about abs mine doesn't have it but later ones might, the dash in the 240 is huge and heavy, the heater core and condenser unit weigh like 60lbs lol also the Volvo does have crash structure, it's a Volvo.
lol fighting to justify why your car is pigfat this is great
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>>17492567
And yet every modern Volvo is 3000lb+. Pointless comparison.
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>>17492567
You might have one airbag, the Fiat has like 9.

Your Volvo is not as safe as a new economy car, the downside to that is all that safety is heavy.

>>17492560
Because the only people that would buy it have weaponized autism and those people can't afford a new car.
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>>17492571
Modern Volvo shares nothing with old Volvo short of the name.
>>17492575
>still defending a pigfat slow car that's gay and unreliable and slow thats value will drop like a rock in a matter of a year or two
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>>17492575
I have weaponized autism though. That's why I'm here.
>>17492567
The Fiesta is heavier than the Fiat but still much smaller than the Volvo, does that mean it's a horrendously pigfat car that Ford didn't even try on either?
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>>17492584
It's much bigger than the fiat so it makes sense that it weighs more
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>>17492589
And the Fiat is smaller so it makes sense that it weighs less
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>>17492583
>Modern Volvo shares nothing with old Volvo short of the name.
So the Volvo is pigfat because the 1975 Fiat 500 weighed only 1,100 pounds.
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>>17492594
But if the fiat were fiesta sized it would weigh 3000lbs, that's the whole point in making, they didn't even try.
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>>17492583
>value will drop like a rock in a matter of a year or two
That's the whole reason I'm going to buy a 14 or 15 that's depreciated by half

>>17492584
And your kind don't buy new cars

>>17492603
Cars don't just scale up in weight like that. The 4 series weighs more than the 3 despite being shorter and having more doors.
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>>17492603
Just taking the car and scaling it up won't give you an accurate measure of weight. The engine, transmission brakes and what not are the same size, the body and chassis get a little longer.
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>>17491696
I want one of these really bad.
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>>17491750
fuck off cummy
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>>17493986
I like how he's so embarrassed from getting btfo last time that he removed the trip.
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>>17493976
unnf
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>>17491696
If you're serious OP, how has the MPG been?
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>>17494391
Not OP but I have a 2015 Abarth. If I drive frugally it gets a combined 30-32, but it doesn't make the fun noises as loud that way. As it is I'm averaging about 27 mpg. That's with the 5 speed manual, not sure about the new automatic.
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>>17494391
https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/overview/226-Abarth/0-All_models.html?power_s=135&power_e=180&powerunit=2

Just to give you a base idea.

14 km/l should be easy to get, the only bad thing is that the manual gearbox lacks a 6th gear.
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>>17494409
>>17494475
Seems pretty dang good to me.
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>>17494492
That gas mileage is a joke. The thing shouldn't be called a fiat and does literally nothing well. It fails at being a small light car as it is only kinda both, it isn't fast, it isn't slow, and it doesn't get great not horrible gas mileage.

I have a real fiat a 50 year old 850 which weighs 1300lbs and gets 45 miles per gallon that's right. My fifty year old car gets 10+ mpg than yours. And yes, I can cruise on the high way going 50-55 without issue. If I wanna be a faggot I have gotten it up to 70.
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>>17494475
Yeah it could really use a 6th gear for highway cruising, but I learned stick on a 1989 Foxbody GT so the five speed is a bit of stupid nostalgia for me.
>>17494492
It's not bad. Much lower than the base 500 but if you're buying an Abarth your doing it for "muh feels" and not hypermiling.
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>>17494506
>My fifty year old car gets 10+ mpg than yours
>is half the weight
Congrats, I'll take you for some gelato
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They've bastardized the abarth name by slapping it on something that's no where close to performance needed for racing. They've bastardized the 500 name by slapping it on a massive car that weighs 3x more than the original.
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>>17494527
I guess it's really 2x as good as yours because you don't drive it prudently
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>>17494538
Stay btfo cucky.
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>>17494538

Every manufacturer is doing things like that...just look at what Citroen did with DS turning it from a model to a brand.

However Abarth is still true to its heritage, they're still the official "tuner" of Fiat, so better than nothing.
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>>17494553
>driving habits have anything to do with character of vehicle being driven
Wew
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>>17494564
This. Literally every microcar from the 50s/60s that's still around in some iteration today has grown massively. And like he said Abarth is still tuning cars. It's not like Fiat just slapped the badge on there and called it good.
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>>17494000
I removed the trio because I was banned for posting a bell curve a week ago
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>>17494666
dogfucker
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>>17494674
Stay BTFO
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>>17494681
>dogfucker spergs when commanded

nice
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>>17494690
Stay BTFO
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>>17494691
Sperg more mr cucky! More!
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>>17494691
Btoy STFA
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>>17494698
Stay BTFO
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>>17494701
Yes! More! More!!
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>>17494588
>fiat abarth is as slow as a Miata
>the wrong wheels are driven
Should have just bought a Miata, and I mean a 91-98 one lol, the abarth is as slow as a stock NA/NB lmfao
>>17494714
Stay BTFO
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>>17494721
Why when I can buy a Fiat 124 and get a better looking Miata
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>>17494721
So you just lurk every thread hoping someone will mention you or something?
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were you legally obligated to provide photographic homosexual evidence or suck the sales' manager's dick before getting the keys like here in the US ?
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>>17494721
Jump mr cucky! Jump!
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>>17494732
Because the fiata makes the same power as the NA Miata and costs more, turbo means you have more parts that can break for no gain, the fiata makes the same power as the all motor Miata.
Typically you turbo a car to make more power then the NA car, but they turbod to make equal power to the NA 2.0 engine.
Pretty fucking stupid 2bh.
The fiat offers no objective gains over the Miata, only objective losses.
>>17494743
???
Why do you say this?
>>17494759
Lol good post
>>17494766
Stay BTFO
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Mrcummy fuck of from this thread and jump down a cliff, the only thing you're good at.
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>>17494793
Anytime I see someone mention you you respond within an hour or so, usually with the BTFO thing. I don't get it or what the cucky thing is about.
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>>17494804
Stay BTFO, stay objectively bad
>>17494807
I have posted maybe 3 times on /o/ in the past week, are you high?
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>>17494831
No I just come here every now and then but people are always talking about you and then this happens.
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>>17494839
Not my fault people buy objectively shitty cars, I'm just pointing it out for them.
They reply like this because cognitive dissonance is in full force.
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>>17494848
>Not my fault people buy objectively shitty cars

At least they're able to safely drive them and don't manage to completely fuck up and nearly die when cruising at 20 mph.
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>>17491696
FIX
IT
AGAIN
TONY
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>>17494848
>Objectively
I think you mean subjectively :^) a car can't be objectively good or bad if it is good in the eyes of some and bad in the eyes of others.

Consider staying BTFO
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>>17494848
That's dumb. Most of the times I've seen you give mechanical advice it's been pretty good.
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>>17494857
Last time I drove my festiva out there nothing went wrong, same road and everything
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>>17494857
>T. Doesn't own or do dangerous things
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>>17494857
jesus fucking christ
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>>17494860
>a car can't be objectively bad
The dissonance is so strong it's insane
>>17494864
Yeah I'm a mechanic, have been for like 10 years.
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>>17494860
>Consider staying BTFO
>implying he has a choice in the matter
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>>17494871
>driving @ 20 mph
>dangerous

pick one
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>>17494868
what a shame, we were all hoping you would kill yourself
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>>17494877
That sounds handy, and it'd make you better versed in this kind of stuff than most people on /o/. So how'd you lose control of a Volvo at 20 mph? :^)
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>>17494898
>So how'd you lose control of a Volvo at 20 mph? :^)

Mistook shifter for a cock, switched from 4th to 2nd gear and the weight transfer on the front axle made the car oversteer
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>>17494898
Slammed on the brakes into a turn and took weight off the back, ass slides around.
Pretty simple really.
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>>17494904
It's a 3 speed auto tho
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>>17494904
>using your cock as a stick shifter while doing revving noises with your mouth according to every gear
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>>17494904
Also lol fiat owners trying to make gay jokes, talking from experience I see.
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>>17494910
I do this with my BFs dick :^)
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>>17491899
>>17491895
been getting these in the shop a bit more often lately (unfortunately), still think they're ugly, but you know what? good on Fiat for not having these cucked corner-riding tailights and headlights that every regular car does.
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>>17494877
>The dissonance is so strong it's insane
Denial is a hell of a drug

>>17494888
It's price to die in a collision with a wall while inside of this thing at 20
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>>17494912
Mrcummy does that with his dog's dick
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>>17494914
What issues have you been seeing with them?
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>>17494911

>posting from phone
>turning airplane mode on

>>17494912

>samefagging with wi-fi and different ip
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>>17494925
That doesn't work anymore, Alphonse got t mobile range banned
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>>17494914
I posted about working at a Chrysler place in the dealer stories thread, I believe you replied to me there. The same stuff as before, the convenience electronics package shit is throwing codes after about 40-50k on a lot of them. Most are regular 500s but we got an Abarth in tuesday
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>>17494937
I remember that. Curious what the most often seen vehicle is you get.
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>>17494948
>>17494948
200s and Darts all fucking day...could go a lifetime without seeing another one
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>>17494937
Thanks man. Seems reasonable to me. As long as there's no glaring suspension or drivetrain or engine issues it's alright in my book.
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>>17494983
Drivetrain and engine are fun from what I've heard, suspension seems to wear out faster than it should with stock parts though, so I've heard.
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>>17494999
*fine, not fun
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>>17492567
>>17492583
>buying the old volvo swedish brick meme

It had excellent safety features...for the time. Nowadays it ain't shit compared to most modern vehicles and it sure as hell wouldn't pass modern safety requirements when it was designed on regulations from decades ago.

But since a picture is worth more than a thousands words of bs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so2wJJPge88

Notice how the a-pillar deforms and the engine/cradle gets pushed neatly into where your legs would've been .2 seconds ago back when you weren't handicapped.
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>>17495042
>cares about crash testing
enjoy your fwd faggot car lol
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>>17495042
The pseudo-science is what got my attention, consider it a small token of good faith in keeping you retards from spouting the same garbage to each other and shining some light on your ignorance.

fwiw I'd rather drive an Abarth than an old crusty Volvo.

lol
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>>17495124
A miata might also suit you well
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>>17495173
>why does everyone like the Fiat over the Miata, the Miata is better
>lol miatas are gay too
Is there any car besides a stripped out Volvo shitwagon that you won't call gay?
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>>17495205
?
I own a miata, I'm well aware of it being a faggot womens car and I'm not in denial about it, unlike you fiat owners.
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>>17495212
Literally no one here has said it's a "manly" car
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>>17495294
I never said anybody here did say it was manly...
Making shit up, cog dissin, stay btfo
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>>17494793
This is what I mean about the new fiats being a total disgrace to the abarth name.
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>>17495306
>I'm well aware of it being a faggot womens car and I'm not in denial about it, unlike you fiat owners
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>>17495348
Yes, that's what I said.
I also own plenty of other cars that aren't faggot cars, because I'm not a total faggot.
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They make a fucking yellow abarth? Since fucking when and where the fuck do I buy one? It will match my fucking truck
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>>17495374
Fuck yes my dude. That's a good looking truck, get a yellow trailer when you're taking the Abarth somewhere. And yeah the 2016s and up have a lot more color options.
>>17495362
>Implying it's my only car
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>>17495362
>because I'm not a total faggot
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>>17495456
>>17494920
>>17494910
>>17494904
How can one man be so consistently BTFO?
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>mrcummy melting down AGAIN

LMAO
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>>17495526
>200000 degrees of steering lock to lock
He isn't a bus rider, he is a bus driver lmfao
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>>17495566
>>17495526
Holy shit lmao
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>>17495511
>if I keep saying he got btfo it will be true!
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>>17496071
>Denial
How hard is it too maintain the front?
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>>17496071
stay BTFO
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>>17496112
Stay BTFO
>>17496156
Stay BTFO
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>>17491696
>>17491895
Hot.

>>17496289
Get back when you can actually take a turn at 20mph without spinning out, faggot.
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>>17495173
>gay furfag calling others gay
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>>17496071
You just said BTFO in like 40 of your posts in this thread you furfag
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>>17496303
I did in my festiva
>>17494868

>>17496364
Stay BTFO
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>>17496306
>expected a retarded trump supporter to be logical
LOL
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>>17496387
Do you only own shitty scrap cars?
What is it? Do you spend everything on fur suits?
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>>17496394
Lol people love my cars, I got a wave, a thumbs up and two people talked to me about my car yesterday.
Eating rn brb
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>>17496394
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>>17496394

he only owns shitty scrap cars, despite what he says.
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Damn that was good
>>17496465
Stay mad
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>>17496405
Weirdly enough I get smiles and people wanting to talk about my Abarth too.
>inb4 they're gay
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>furfaggot sperging this hard

lol

this is why you give attention to your kids
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>>17496536
They wanna fuck you
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>>17496405
>dime a dozen cars back in their day
>people waving
People are just surprised someone actually still drives those clunkers.
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>>17496564
lol no, they fucking love it
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>>17496623
the imaginary voices in your head are not real

dogfucker
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>>17496623
>hits bump
>wheels hit the fender and can travel no further
>spins out at 20mph

I think I figured out your problem
>>
>>17496637
Except that car didn't spin out, it handles well, I love the stiff konis, they make it a super fun car to drive, head into a roundabout fast and crack the wheel to start a slide and maintain it through the roundabout, shit is fucking dope.
I love that car so much.
>>17496630
lol stay mad, I get waves and people talking to me almost every fucking time I go out, it's great.
>>
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>>17496654
>ur mad I drive a shitbox

lol

just

lol
>>
>>17496660
People love it senpai, that fiat will be just as shitty in 25 years, probably worse since it isn't japanese lol.
>>
>>17496548
Who wouldn't, I'm pretty attractive desu
>>
>>17496682
I bet you're just SUPER (TH lisp S on that)
>>
>>17495526
notice mrcummy cant bring himself to ever respond to this web, anymore
>>
>>17496687
>drives Festiva
>makes gay jokes
wew
>>
>>17496693
I already responded to it a thousand times, why bother at this point?
>>17496694
And a toyota pickup, and a volvo 240, and a datsun 510, and a miata, and an XR650R, and a WR450, and a toyota hilux, probably forgetting something else 2bh I have too many cars and bikes
>>
>>17496687
>needing to explain your insults in parentheses
>>
>>17496715
Just making sure you understand how SUPER you are
>>
>>17496713
>A festiva and a miata
That's twice the gay cars I own desu
>>
>>17496726
but your car is double gay so it's even
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>>17496713
>and a shitbox, and a shitbox, and a shitbox, and a shitbox....
>>
>>17496739
Maybe he should sell some of them so he can afford some driving lessons
>>
Hey mrcummy, moan more for your man.
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>>17496739
They're all projects, the volvo is LS swapped, the hilux is being restored, the festiva is getting a swap as well.
Building cars is better than buying cars, you end up with a better car that suits your needs.
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>>17496768
>>
>>17496768
That's why I have a 1948 project truck, a 96 Cummins Ram for hauling and an Abarth for fun noises and commuting.
>>
>>17496787
>for fun noises
That's about all it can do lmfao
>>
>>17496796
I guess that's got some truth to it. It sure as hell can't spin out at 20 mph
>>
>>17496811
Not with you driving it :3c
Gays can't seem to take risks anywhere but in bed
>>
>>17496816
>taking risks
>loses control of vehicle at 20 mph
Lmao
>>
>>17496822
What is your post even trying to convey?
>>
>>17496713
please dont ls swap the miata
we dont need another one of those
if you ever want more power out of it you should dorito swap it desu.
keep 'er light
>>
>>17497593
I don't like rotaries, but the miata isn't getting an LS, if anything I'll just turbo it.
Stock it's plenty fun tho, it doesn't really need anything done to the motor to have a fuckton of fun hooning on the streets.
>>
>>17497593
>ls swap the miata
>we dont need another one of those
People say this meme as if v8 miatas are everywhere. I don't know anyone who has one and I've never seen one irl and i haven't seen anyone posting theirs on /o/
>>
>>17497604
i know they're not a dime a dozen, but they're a meme swap, and there's enough as is
>>
>>17494915
fuck kit kat i have told you this before but your truck is one of the few trucks in the world that don't offend me

t.the dude who wants to dd a vw beetle from 1963
>>
>>17497849
It's just a stock ford dude, there are countless other ones.
>one of the few trucks in the world
Ford didn't only make a few of those, they actually had a factory building them and pumping them out in massive numbers believe it or not, so you're in luck!
>>
>wake up
>it's another mrcucky meltdown thread

Sometimes I'm glad I didn't already kill myself.
>>
>>17497916
Stay btfo
>>
>>17497849
nothing wrong with an old beetle my man. My grandpa drove one in the army, my dad drove one and a karmann ghia in high school and I've always kept my eye out for one. They're just nice, cute little cars desu.
>>
>>17497916
>have nice comfy sleep
>wake up
>he's getting butt blasted about trucks now
it's a good feeling senpai
>>
>>17497937
Stay btfo
>>
yikes
>>
>>17497971
Stay btfo
>>
>>17496833
dont you have some dogs to fuck or something tripfag?
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>>17498011
I'm busy assembling a cart on amazon and watching welding videos, it's a nice cozy morning.
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Redpill me on the memestripe /o/. Should I get one? I normally don't like them, but for some reason I love it on the Abarth.
>>
>>17498315
Depends on the color really. I love how it looks on the white, but the black looks best with no stipe I think. No meme stripe on mine but I don't think it would work with a dark metallic color.
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>>17498330
I agree, the metallic looks really good on it's own, but I like what they did here too.
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