300zx

>>17476995
>not that fast
>overpriced
>impossible to work on yourself

>>17477002
>Not that fast
In terms of top speed, it's just as fast as an FD at a quarter the price
>Overpriced
I disagree, twin turbo V6s are hard to come by at a lower price than this
>Impossible to work on yourself
Untrue, anyone with some mechanical experience can work on these with the help of manuals and Google

>>17477019
>Untrue, anyone with some mechanical experience can work on these with the help of manuals and Google
YEA.... THATS WHY WE SEE THEM ALL OVER THE PLACE HERE IN AMERICA.... GEEZUS YOU FUCKIN MUPPET.. GET A BUS PASS SOON.

>>17477019
>Untrue, anyone with some mechanical experience can work on these with the help of manuals and Google

Google and Manuals won"t make the engine bay magically be less tight

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I might be the odd one out, but I like the Z31 more than the Z32.

>>17477066
The Z31 looks hella dated compared to the Z32

>>17477066
You are not alone, but I am a sucker for all things rad. Z31 is very rad; Z32 not so much.

>>17477083
And the Z32 isn't 90s dated

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>>17476995
How cheap is the insurance compared to other jdm cars ?

>>17476995
Non-turbo one is a shit. My little brother fell for the 300zx meme and that thing is slow as fuck. My buddy has an 04 VR6 GTI that has around the same power and the same price that smokes it all day. He can't even compete with my C4. It's just not that great of a car. No clue about the Turbo model. I'd like to drive one, but for the price here in California, I'd rather buy a C5 and smoke a TT 300zx any day of the week.

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>>17477243
looks breddy futuristic to me

>>17476995
I agree with all of this. Love these cars. They are a hidden gem and there is a ressurgence in their popularity.

>>17477248
Waaay cheaper than almost every other JDM. For example, the comparison websites are telling me that to insure an R32 GTS-T, I'd have to pay £16k. The 300zx is less than £1.8k. I can only guess that is because they aren't as popular in this country.

>>17477269
I mean p, there is an 80hp difference between the NA and the turbo, so I can see them being worlds apart. There are a lot more options with the turbo model to get more power out of the engine, as well.

>>17477269
You don't have to look beyond the specs to see that the n/a version is slow. They put down about 175 hp at the wheels and weigh 3300 lbs. They are still fun cruisers and they do handle pretty well. Very fun on some twisty roads. Nobody should buy one expecting to go fast in straight lines.

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Z31 looks tight as fuck, would love to get a roller and put a decent drive train in it. I'm not necessarily a Nissan fan so I wouldn't feel bad doing an LS or maybe 2j swap.

>>17477353
the stock turbo engine is good for about 400-500 hp if you upgrade the fuel system and turbos

>>17477364
well the turbo, forgot those were single turbo

>>17477364
Really? That's pretty cool. I'd have to see what would be cheaper, buying the roller + ls1, or buying the working TT and upgrading.

I've seen a few decent rolling Z31s near me with blown engines, they move quick yet I never see them on the road.

Sound off if you keep an old Japanese car in the road, damn.
>mkii supra and FC3S reporting

Altho I need to rebuild my 13b before safely driving it again kek

>>17477336
That extra 80hp is available at 4k rpm also, which makes a world of difference. I have both NA and TT cars and there is no comparison.

>>17477394
i would not run over 400 daily, but just on the weekends it should be fine. The rods and crank will take 500, it´s just the pistons that might die. However throw some je forged ones or something in there and you should be golden.

>>17476995
Brit fucker here, been looking at these for a few months now, hard to find a post 92 model in manual that hasn't been thrashed. Insurance is cheap and the TT is 270bhp so it looms very appealing. Been reading a lot on the 300zx forums and hardly anyone recommends using the TT model as a daily. Apparently they require a fair amount of wrenching and unfortunately I lack a drive / garage or the tools to look after that compact v6.

Looks like a lovely car but make sure you can look after one anon.

>>17477428
>>17477478
In lieu of this info and the opinions on the TT, maybe an LS1 swap would be ideal. You get the cool car, more reliable drive train, and theoretically 10:1 ratio, assuming the ls makes at least 330hp, and the car weighs roughly 3300lbs, and more hp is available if you feel like building.

Estimated cost would be near 10k though, all things said and done.

>>17476995
Everything is relative, but yes, generally speaking, compared to a lot of other cars from the time period, and that niche, they are indeed a royal fucking pain to work on...

Also, the tt 2+2 weighs in at around 3600 lbs and everyone I've ever ridden in handled like a salt truck with a plow on the front end the second you went to turn...

Can you make them go fast? Sure. You can make a bar stool go fast, too. It's all a matter of what you're into, I personally value handling higher than this car is capable of practically providing, but that's just me. I will admit though, by the year 2017, to a certain degree, I can appreciate the rare occasion I see any 90s jdm mid-high end sports car rolling down the street by someone who takes the time to keep up on it, so many of these cars didn't survive. It's just an appreciation for the hobby in general, I guess.

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>>17476995

>>17477002
Wrong.

It's actually fast even by todays standards. 13sec 1/4 mile. With like $3k in mods you can be almost 500 hp.It is absolutely not over priced. You can get a TT for $5-$8k. Really clean ones go for just over $10k. And there is nothing on the SIDE of the engine you need to reach for >muhhh cramped engine bayyy!!!!

You can easily repair almost everything on the Z in the garage at home. The hardest things will be upgrading the turbo and doing the 120k service. Other than that, it's pretty easy to work on.

>>17476995

The downsides OP are that 99% are beat to shit and need thousands in maintenance done. Poor people buy them and let them go to shit. They think a car that was $45k 20+ years ago will be cheap to maintain. Get the maintenance caught up, and they are great.

>>17477767
How is a 13 second quarter mile fast by any standard? An EcoBoost F150 runs in the 12s lmao. Stay delusional

>>17477364
You don't need to upgrade the turbos. We just did 476 whp on an AUTOMATIC with stock turbos. We hit 500whp on stock turbos a lot.

All you really need is a nistune, full exhaust, dual intake, injectors, e85 conversion. We run them all day at 400-450 WHP with just those mods.

>>17477781
Literally talking out of your ass.

>>17477782
This makes me REALLY want one. Cleanest looking one near me is a TT turbo going for 5.5k. Really, really tempted... I wish school paid for itself

>>17477782
i was talking about the z31, and the stock garret t3 wont do 476 if you dont hit it with a 150 shot of nitrous

>>17477781
Those run 20sec 1/4 mile. The RAPTOR runs 14's.

The 2015 Musang GT runs a 13.0 1/4 mile. A Z runs 13.2ish with modern tires, for a car that came out in 1989.

>>17477809
Ewww Z31. Literally the worst Z in existence.

>>17477806
Forgot that you need a boost controller too, but that kinda obvious.

I want one really bad. But I'm gonna have to drive down to Texas or some shit for a decent one. Faggots overpriced the shit out of even clapped out pieces of shit here in Kansas.

>>17477795
>>17477811

>implying the raptor has a different engine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtHKpRDXUzM

My EcoBoost Ford Transit 250 plumbers van with a $90 chiptune is faster than a 300zx

>>17477840
>implying they didn't boost the fuck out of the raptor and your numbers are still wrong.

Keep grasping at straws faggot.

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>>17477106
Nothing will ever be as rad as 80s digidashes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWUZQaqKtSU

>>17477840
>my boosted turbo is faster than a stock car from 1989
LOL okay, go "tune" a 300zx and watch it run 11's. Here's a diesel running 10's. Who gives a shit? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIcOLPrXtQM

Do you even into logic? A car from 1989 is almost as fast (within .5 sec) as current pony cars in the 1/4 mile.

>>17477840
>this modified twin turbo is factory spec
LOL. A MODIFIED Eco Boost runs high 12's.

I like just about everything about the 300zx except the front end. Everything else about the car is PERFECT, but the headlights just kill it for me

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>>17477849

>shills some piece of shit jap car for years
>absolutely loses their mind when they find out its slower than generic american work trucks

kek dude. i feel bad for you. you're literally trying to defend a 13s quarter mile which is slow no matter what vehicle it is.

>>17477880
You are literally this dumb.

>hurr dis modified and boosted turbo is faster than a stock nissan from 1980's
>but if we talk about factory specs it's not even close
>everyone else is mad

A vg30dett ran a 5 sec 1/4 mile. Have an ecoboost doing that? A stock block 300zx has run 9 sec 1/4 mile. If we're talking about modified cars. The top speed record holder at boneville that still hasn't been beaten to this day. You were saying what about the eco boost?

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https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?321714-300zx-TT-race-but-for-some-reason-it-was-slow


>everytime i noticed the exhaust would pop flames so he had to be on it. but i would pull on him so hard. it was comical i couldnt and still cant believe its true.

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>>17477900
>ecu flash bought from tuner website for $90
>"modified and boosted"

>>17477903
>https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?321714-300zx-TT-race-but-for-some-reason-it-was-slow
>this internet story from a bimmer forum will prove me correct
LOL. Your rage is hilarious.

>>17476995
I've always thought it was a good looking car but they're super difficult to work on when they break (and they will often)

>>17477767
A 1990 Corvette ZR1 ran a 12.8 stock. No mods. Much rather have that then one of those weeb messes lol

>>17477923
>literally not factory
>literally tuned to TURN UP THE BOOST

Do you even understand what they do to ECU flashes? You can get an ecu flash for almost any turbo car that allows for way more boost. But say goodbye to your engine after a while. Throwing boost at a factory engine with no supporting mods isn't good for it.

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>>17477749
>and the mazdacuck comes out of the woodwork right on time
hello little cucky!

>>17477928
Do you have $30k laying around? Because a ZR-1 was super rare and is expensive today. Both are good cars. But the ZR-1 is pretty much topped out, the 300zx is easily moddable.

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>>17477878
You could get the late model JDM bumper, which I think is a dramatic improvement over the stock front end.

>>17477749
t.mazdashill

>>17477878
>>17477964
I personally think the car would look a million times better if they gave it pop up lights instead of whatever they ended up giving them

>>17477019
T. Former 300zxtt owner hete
>>Not that fast
>In terms of top speed, it's just as fast as an FD at a quarter the price
No. Maybe 0-60 or quarter mile but on a track the FD destroys the fatlady
>>Overpriced
>I disagree, twin turbo V6s are hard to come by at a lower price than this
A working reliable 300zxtt is more than a c5 Vette, yet slower, and less reliable
>>Impossible to work on yourself
>Untrue, anyone with some mechanical experience can work on these with the help of manuals and Google
They aren't impossible to work on, but some maintance is pretty annoying. Timing belt, spark plugs, adding power...

I really liked mine, it was fantastic, better than a Supra.

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And here we see the Nissan in it's natural habitat

>>17477985
B-but muh Lamborghini Diablo headlights

>>17477964
Wow that made a HUGE difference. It actually looks good now, at least from that angle. If I were to get a 300zx how hard would it be to source that bumper?

I still probably wouldn't get one though

>>17478000
Eh, they're not too uncommon, but expect to fork out roughly $400

>>17477840
....Wait.. Are you saying any factory car that doesn't run mid 12's is slow? because that's almost every car.

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>>17477985
Just threw together what pop ups might have looked like...
>muh dick

>>17476995
If we're going by stats on paper, the GTO VR4 is a better value.

But you and I both know that they're both unreliable pieces of shit that are extremely difficult to work on too.

>>17477066
Yeah I like I better too. But it's not just the looks that are outdated, performance wise is a lot worse than the z32

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I get that Nissan wanted a luxury grand tourer and didn't want to compete with the skyline but the rb would have been great in this car. If I had the funds I'd swap one or a jz in.

>>17478599
the z31 came with the rb20det in japan

>>17477300
It's the 90s idea of the future, it's blobby.
The z31 is pure 80s futurism, sharper lines, cutting edge (for the time) digital displays and such. Everything purpose shaped to look like a damn spaceship.

>>17476995
>>4 seats

The 2+2 is fucking ugly though.

>>17480266
>Break down
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GOLDEN AGE
(DU DU)
GOLDEN CENTURY
GOLDEN PILL THAT YOU WILL TAKE

GOLDEN AGE
(DU!)
GOLDEN HISTORY
ITS YOUR TIME TO FLY AWAY!

I've always been of the belief that people who shit talk the z32tt are underage bus riders

I really don't like nissans but the fairlady is an awesome car in all regards

Not really a track or twisty car, but God damn if anything in its price range can take you to work and back at 160mph with a few grand in modifications

>>17480352
>underage
>take you to work and back at 160mph

The ironing.

>>17478599

they should have just made a v8 for it

>>17480372
>He doesn't leave the office at midnight and enjoy the empty highway
Shiggy diggy

>>17477782
>>17477364
damn, I had no idea they had that kind of power potential. I might have to pick up one and perform a few simple mods after I hit the books and do some research.

>>17480352
How is it not a track or twisty car? It does just fine in both cases.

>>17476995
>v6
>sounds incredible

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>17477939
>>17477965
Mazda still makes sport cars.

Nissan btfo again.

>>17477993
>A working reliable 300zxtt is more than a c5 Vette
This is what always stops me from getting one. A good condition 300zx tt is easily over $12k. I'd love to own one but the asking price is just too high and sadly it's going to get even higher as the years go on.

>>17477863
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/cto/6166333025.html
So tempted to buy this. I fucking love the digital dash.

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>>17476995
>>17476995

That thing is ugly as sin. Whoever thought those front headlights suited the car needs to be beheaded for such crimes against aestheticism.

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>>17477050
This 1000times over

>>17481444
That is the biggest problem with these cars. There's a reason why it isn't in the $5000 infographic and the mk3 Supra is. The 300zx TT is a better stock car, but considering the price difference, you can get a clean mk3 and swap a 2jz with BPUs for about the same price.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/cto/6153549727.html
That is the cleanest Z I've ever fucking seen.
>35k miles
>$27k

Of course its an I know what I got listing.

>>17482457
And then you would have a mk3 Supra. Think about that for a second.

I wanted one, but all of them were high mileage and sat too long in a rice cooker.

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>>17482547
What's wrong with that? They look kinda cool and are much easier to work on than a Z32.

>>17482619
>Kinda cool
Nigga they are way more A E S T H E T I C than the Z3 2ND, everyone ITT is a bunch of scumbags

>>17482531
>automatic
sleep tight little datsun

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>>17482680
Nah

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>>17482741
Yah

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>Prove to me that the 300zx isn't the best value for money sporty-tourer there is out there.

>325 smooth, American horsepower from a NA V8
>Comfy, driver-centric interior
>T-tops for sunny Saturday cruises
>Undeniably iconic 90s styling
>4 seats
>Huge aftermarket
>No drift/rice tax of other options such as the S chassis
>Dirt cheap insurance (at least in the US)
>Sounds incredible

also easier to work on, faster. way bigger after market and way more potential. more common parts. more common chassis overall

>>17482818
The terribly ugly styling and shit interior takes away from any of those positives.

>>17477050
Anyone that loves 90s nissan knows what a fucking bitch it is to change a turbo, or even an elbow pipe on a 300zx.

>>17476995
I'm 6'7" (202cm) can I fit in one?

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>>17477749

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>>17477863
>>17481447
I want to retrofit something like this into my car, sadly custom VFD displays are stupid expensive

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>>17482839
>ugly exterior

i think my non-ws6 Trans Am is absolutely gorgeous. instant-classic and extremely recognizable. undeniably 90s

>Shit interior

new carpet, seats, dash cover. not much more to ask for its a very generic 90s interior. it isn't ruining the car for anyone who has ever actually driven one.

sure its spartan but this is a drivers car you plebeian.

only soccer moms choose a car for the interior

I do prefer the interior of my EF civic (1991 hatch) but this is a FWD car that has no trans or driveshaft tunnel and the engine is way farther forward. there are sacrifices to be made for engine placement and drivetrain orientation that outweighs interior design

>>17482756
>>17482741
Literally comparing apples and oranges

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>>17482996
True, the A70 is
>beautiful
>fun to drive
>reliable
>easy to work on
While the Z32 is
>unreliable
>ugly
>horrible to drive
>only able to be worked on by Japanese elves

>>17483015
These look so good with wide body kits. Are they custom or are there people still Manufacturing them?

>>17483111
I would imagine they'd be custom at this point, but Google is your friend

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>>17483015

>>17483732
Sam Hyde, is that you?

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I wanna fix mine up again someday

>>17483834
What's wrong with it?

Nothing that major, it needs a timing belt and thermostat replaced. Other than that it looks worn from sitting out in the sun.

>>17483805
no. that's it though

>>17477604
>LS1
Why not keep it within the realms of Nissan and put a modern VQ36 with a set of turbos into it?

>>17483853
Its Nissan

>>17483898
Kinda bummed he hasn't posted much info on his build on a while. Looks good, and you almost never see two-tones anymore

>>17483926
No VQ. A VK56 is what you want.

>>17484038
>No VQ. A VH45 is what you want.
Fixed

>>17484113
No VEEKAY FIFTY SIX

>>17484141
NO
VEE KAY FIVE SIX WONT FIT
VEE AITCH FOUR FIVE FIT PERFECT AND HAVE MORE AFTERMARKET

>>17483937
it's not done yet. front is so high in that pic b/c no engine. 1jz s366 eventually

>>17484160
It's been done. A VH45 wont sit low enough to clear the hood. So really neither "fit".

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>>17483926
Because the LS is smaller and capable of 3x the power. This is a perfect example of why DOHC's shouldn't be a thing.

>>17484381
the vh45 will clear the hood. it's been done several times already. porsche cayenne v8 intake with adapter flange.

>>17484461
It's still blasphemous,but as an idea it's not flawed.I just thought that putting the engine from a 370Z would be suitable.Plus VQ's do have a nice sound to them.

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>>17476995
>iconic 90s styling
>no pop ups

>>17484487
>It can be done.

By buying more parts. That are most likely ridiculously priced.

But in all seriousness, does the Porsche intake provide decent, balanced flow? I haven't heard of that being done until now

>>17484336
Why not a 2j? I guess he wants to keep it period correct or something?

>>17484756
it was my idea for the most part. much, MUCH cheaper and higher revs factory. running a 2jz harness and standalone tho. someone else is finishing it now

>>17484753
>does a Porsche intake deliver balanced flow
Does a bear shit in the woods? What kind of stupid question is that? Jesus you fucks get dumber by the day

>>17484753
it has one runner per port and is styled like the LS6 intake. it's very good but you're better off with buying an L33 out of a trailblazer/envoy and putting an LS6 intake on it. the vh45 is irrelevant and its obscurity is its downfall.

>>17476995
Because the SW20 exists. You britbongs have even nicer SW20s than we get across the pond.

>>17484772
Good to know.

>>17484766
Dude are you okay?

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>>17484714
It's reverse pop ups.

>>17484765
>>17484765
Well I wish him the best of luck. Im planning a 2j for mine. You seen any of Nick's cars? Saw that 911 targa he had a while ago.

>>17484461
Is this the power of pushrods? Do pushrods really push gods?

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>>17485114
yes sir they do
pic related one of the best engines ever strapped to shitty chrysler electronics

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Only good for parts